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A66932 A little stone, pretended to be out of the mountain, tried, and found to be a counterfeit, or, An examination & refutation of Mr. Lockyers lecture, preached at Edinburgh, anno 1651, concerning the mater of the visible church and afterwards printed with an appendix for popular government of single congregations : together with an examination, in two appendices, of what is said on these same purposes in a letter of some in Aberdene, who lately have departed from the communion and government of this church / by James Wood ... Wood, James, 1608-1664. 1654 (1654) Wing W3399; ESTC R206983 330,782 402

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section_n 12_o next_o the_o author_n go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o simon_n magus_n do_v give_v such_o outward_a appearance_n of_o real_a inward_a grace_n that_o the_o apostle_n think_v he_o real_o gracious_a a_o true_a and_o real_a saint_n 1._o by_o what_o be_v say_v of_o he_o in_o the_o text._n 2._o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o learned_a interpreter_n for_o the_o former_a it_o be_v say_v say_v he_o that_o when_o he_o be_v baptize_v he_o continue_v with_o philip_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o here_o be_v be_v much_o insist_v upon_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o original_a word_n that_o it_o signify_v to_o be_v always_o present_a to_o endure_v to_o be_v assiduous_a that_o it_o be_v attribute_v to_o hunt_a dog_n that_o will_v not_o cease_v follow_v the_o game_n till_o they_o have_v get_v it_o that_o it_o signify_v to_o persevere_v with_o strength_n act_v 6._o 4._o rom._n 13._o 6._o and_o then_o upon_o all_o
baptism_n perso●…_n profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n these_o thing_n be_v consider_v the_o conseque●…_n of_o the_o proposition_n may_v appear_v to_o stand_v valid_a upon_o this_o part_n of_o the_o antecedent_n if_o the_o apostle_n admit_v person_n upon_o their_o first_o profess_v without_o delay_n of_o time_n for_o further_a trial_n and_o discovery_n of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n in_o their_o hear●_n then_o etc._n etc._n section_n 8_o now_o 〈◊〉_d w●_n to_o the_o pro●…_n of_o the_o assum●…on_n 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o first_o part_n to_o wit_n m●ses●racti●…_n ●racti●…_z 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v such_o as_o we_o say_v great_a plenty_n of_o ●…monies_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v bring_v forth_o but_o take_v one_o for_o all_o deut._n 29._o here_o it_o 〈◊〉_d evident_a ver_fw-la 10_o 11_o 12_o 13._o that_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o people_n of_o israel_n be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v in_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n you_o stand_v all_o of_o you_o before_o the_o lord_n your_o god_n your_o captain_n of_o your_o tribe_n your_o elder_n and_o your_o officer_n with_o all_o the_o man_n of_o israel_n yea_o some_o of_o the_o independent_a way_n will_v have_v the_o covenant_v there_o rehearse_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o a_o church_n covenant_n as_o they_o call_v it_o and_o that_o thereby_o that_o 〈◊〉_d be_v de_fw-fr novo_fw-la restore_v to_o the_o state_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n from_o 〈◊〉_d they_o have_v fall_v as_o they_o allege_v and_o this_o though_o it_o be_v 〈…〉_o because_o it_o be_v only_o a_o renew_n of_o the_o general_n covenan●●…twixt_n god_n and_o that_o people_n whereby_o be_v confirm_v their_o ad●…tion_n to_o be_v his_o church_n make_v the_o place_n to_o militate_v the_o more_o 〈◊〉_d against_o they_o now_o see_v what_o moses_n say_v of_o they_o vers_n 2_o 3_o 4._o you_o meaning_n ●_o great_a part_n of_o that_o people_n have_v see_v all_o the_o lord_n do_v before_o your_o ●yes_n in_o egypt_n the_o great_a temptation_n which_o thy_o eye_n have_v see_v the_o sign_n and_o these_o great_a miracle_n yet_o the_o lord_n have_v not_o give_v you_o a_o heart_n to_o perceive_v and_o eye_n to_o see_v and_o ear_n to_o hear_v unto_o this_o day_n do_v not_o moses_n hereby_o clear_o declare_v that_o they_o be_v void_a of_o true_a grace_n and_o ●…renewed_v man_n some_o of_o the_o independent_a way_n have_v deny_v this_o allege_v that_o this_o exprobration_n do_v not_o import_v that_o they_o be_v yet_o in_o a_o natural_a unrenued_a state_n but_o only_o that_o they_o be_v dull_a and_o ●low_v in_o harken_v to_o discern_v and_o understand_v sundry_a particular_a dispensation_n of_o divine_a favour_n and_o power_n and_o that_o the_o like_a sinful_a 〈◊〉_d be_v object_v to_o the_o lord_n apostle_n mark_v 8._o 17._o but_o the_o corrupt_a and_o perverse_a interpretation_n upon_o this_o place_n contrary_a to_o the_o stream_n of_o orthodox_n writer_n especial_o such_o as_o oppose_v the_o remonstrant_n who_o expound_v the_o place_n almost_o the_o same_o way_n be_v p●…ssed_v therewith_o in_o the_o controversy_n touch_v the_o efficacy_n of_o grace_n in_o conversion_n see_v ●…mely_a junius_n his_o analys_n deut._n 29._o calv._n comment_fw-fr ibi_fw-la am●s●…ron_n artic._n 3._o argument_n 2._o puss-cat_n a●ica_fw-la duplicat_fw-la ad_fw-la conr._n vor_v and_o parallel_v it_o with_o that_o speak_v of_o the_o apostle_n mark_v 8._o be_v abundant_o refute_v by_o reverend_n mr._n ruth●…f●rd_n due_a right_n of_o presbyt_fw-la pag._n 104_o 105_o 106._o that_o i_o need_v 〈…〉_o more_o to_o what_o he_o have_v say_v only_o let_v the_o reader_n consider_v what_o be_v say_v of_o that_o people_n deut._n 31._o 21_o 27._o and_o judge_v i●_n nothing_o else_o be_v mean_v but_o some_o particular_a sinfu●…_n 〈◊〉_d ●…fections_n and_o ●…cts_v incide●…_n to_o 〈…〉_o mr._n hooker_n 〈◊〉_d suru._n p._n 1●…_n 2_o pag._n 20._o 30._o will_v not_o ●…lve_v the_o wound_n give_v to_o his_o opinion_n by_o this_o part_n of_o the_o argument_n he_o think_v to_o relieve_v the_o matter_n without_o the_o least_o trouble_n by_o tell_v we_o that_o such_o person_n be_v in_o that_o church_n have_v degen●…_n 〈◊〉_d what_o they_o be_v and_o be_v to_o be_v only_a tolera●…_n 〈…〉_o the_o censure_n be_v try_v up●…_n they_o but_o if_o then_o they_o 〈◊〉_d incorrigible_a they_o be_v to_o 〈…〉_o that_o the_o ●_z be_v not_o whether_o member_n 〈…〉_o he_o mean_v true_a gracious_a 〈…〉_o out_o of_o man_n may_v degenerate_v but_o whe●_n 〈…〉_o of_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o way_n and_o 〈…〉_o receive_v many_o thing_n may_v he_o 〈…〉_o but_o for_o to_o show_v the_o nullit●●f_a this_o answer_n it_o 〈…〉_o to_o consider_v that_o a●_n this_o time_n deut._n 29._o moses_n at_o the_o lord_n direction_n be_v by_o ●en●ing_n of_o the_o covenant_n either_o state_v they_o de●_n nove_fw-la 〈◊〉_d visible_a church_n as_o some_o of_o the_o independent_a way_n do_v 〈◊〉_d ●…er_n or_o 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o truth_n confirm_v or_o ren●…_n 〈…〉_o of_o that_o a●opti●…_n whereby_o long_o ago_o the_o lord_n 〈…〉_o they_o to_o be_v his_o 〈◊〉_d people_n and_o 〈…〉_o restore_n 〈…〉_o there_o be_v no_o odds_o 〈…〉_o on_o which_o of_o they_o be_v say_v covenant_v all_o the_o people_n our_o and_o other_o of_o they_o know_v the_o mean_a while_n a●…edly_o many_o of_o they_o to_o be_v but_o graceless_a unconvert_v man_n and_o be_v this_o not_o to_o acknowledge_v they_o as_o visible_a member_n 〈…〉_o they_o very_o such_o a_o fiction_n can_v stand_v 〈…〉_o of_o so_o clear_a and_o evident_a li●…_n of_o scriptu●…_n section_n 9_o as_o to_o the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o a●…eedent_a pe●…ning_n to_o the_o ●…me_n of_o the_o new_a test_n 1._o w●_n 〈◊〉_d baptist_n baptise_a huge_a multitude●●ithout_n any_o ●…lay_n 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v say_v that_o all_o jerusalem_n and_o j●…●nd_n ●nd_z the_o r●…on_n round_o about_o 〈◊〉_d go_v out_o to_o he_o and_o be_v baptise_a without_o de●…_n mat._n 3._o 5_o ●_o two_o thing_n principal_o be_v reply_v to_o the_o 〈…〉_o say_v in_o the_o text_n 〈…〉_o 6._o 2_o 〈…〉_o in_o their_o 〈…〉_o of_o they_o t●_n bring_v 〈…〉_o for_o that_o 〈…〉_o the_o consideration_n which_o 〈…〉_o godly_a and_o 〈…〉_o have_v upon_o the_o pla●…_n 〈◊〉_d in_o answer_n to_o the_o rhemists_n affirm●…_n that_o they_o do_v not_o 〈◊〉_d themselves_o sinner_n in_o the_o general_a only_o but_o that_o ever_o 〈◊〉_d ●…tter_v his_o sin_n particular_o that_o learned_a author_n 〈…〉_o that_o this_o confession_n be_v make_v by_o every_o one_o apar●_n or_o of_o 〈◊〉_d particular_a fault_n they_o have_v commit_v and_o he_o say_v 〈…〉_o be_v only_o general_a not_o only_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o object_n 〈◊〉_d not_o of_o their_o 〈…〉_o but_o of_o their_o sin_n general_o 〈…〉_o every_o one_o of_o they_o 〈…〉_o confession_n personal_o but_o 〈…〉_o common_a they_o profess_v themselves_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈…〉_o ●…siderable_a and_o weighty_a reason_n of_o 〈…〉_o they_o have_v make_v confession_n every_o one_o 〈…〉_o prescription_n to_o every_o one_o apart_o to_o every_o singular_a person_n but_o that_o he_o do_v not_o but_o according_a 〈…〉_o profession_n of_o life_n wherein_o they_o live_v to_o the_o publica●…_n that_o 〈…〉_o to_o that_o state_n of_o life_n to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d that_o which_o 〈…〉_o their_o call_n second_o 〈…〉_o be_v impossible_a 〈…〉_o have_v ●…eard_v all_o these_o con●e●…_n particular_o 〈…〉_o every_o one_o of_o they_o 〈◊〉_d confess_v some_o 〈…〉_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o take_v of_o the_o strength_n of_o our_o argument_n 〈◊〉_d we_o find_v it_o 〈◊〉_d that_o john_n do_v delay_v or_o make_v inquiry_n of_o the_o soundness_n of_o the_o work_n in_o their_o hear●_n but_o present_o without_o more_o and_o with●…_n delay_v baptise_a they_o second_o true_a it_o be_v john_n 〈…〉_o bring_v forth_o 〈◊〉_d meet_a fo●_n repe●…_n but_o do_v john_n bap●…_n 〈◊〉_d their_o baptism_n until_o he_o shall_v see_v 〈◊〉_d fruit_n good_a work_n in_o a_o course_n of_o life_n ●…ought_v forth_o and_o thereby_o 〈◊〉_d they_o 〈…〉_o to_o be_v true_a saint_n and_o so_o due_o qualify_v that_o way_n do_v 〈…〉_o any_o 〈◊〉_d as_o this_o or_o be_v not_o johns_n 〈…〉_o and_o clear_o that_o 〈…〉_o in_o his_o harmon_n pag._n 9●_n e●…_n 〈◊〉_d bat●…_n subjungit_fw-la 〈…〉_o fidem_fw-la &_o 〈…〉_o section_n 10_o i_o know_v 〈…〉_o in_o may_v allege_v that_o john_n baptist_n no●_n content_a with_o the_o external_a prof●…on_n of_o such_o as_o come_v to_o his_o baptism_n do_v require_v of_o they_o bring_v ●…th_n of_o fruit_n worthy_a of_o repentance_n before_o he_o admit_v they_o that_o he_o do_v not_o baptize_v the_o pharisee_n but_o reject_v they_o upon_o this_o very_a account_n because_o he_o do_v not_o see_v in_o they_o such_o fruit_n but_o what_o be_v bring_v by_o they_o for_o confirm_v this_o alledgeance_n and_o what_o else_o they_o bring_v for_o their_o new_a take_v up_o way_n in_o this_o point_n shall_v be_v examine_v afterward_o in_o a_o
appendix_n for_o the_o present_a what_o we_o have_v say_v be_v sufficient_a to_o show_v that_o john_n baptize_v such_o as_o come_v to_o he_o upon_o th●_n 〈◊〉_d profession_n without_o any_o delay_n of_o time_n or_o wait_v for_o trial_n of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o their_o save_a conversion_n section_n 11_o in_o like_a manner_n find_v we_o that_o the_o apostle_n admit_v to_o baptism_n person_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o make_v profession_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n without_o delay_n ●or_a trial_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o grace_n in_o their_o heart_n as_o act_n 2._o 38._o 41._o we_o read_v they_o baptize_v and_o so_o add_v to_o the_o church_n three_o thousand_o that_o same_o day_n that_o they_o first_o profess_v without_o delay_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o so_o much_o as_o one_o day_n when_o as_o so_o great_a a_o number_n may_v excuse_v the_o delay_n if_o they_o will_v have_v take_v long_o time_n to_o the_o bu●…nesse_n and_o certain_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o conversion_n of_o these_o man_n be_v so_o sudden_a one_o will_v think_v 〈◊〉_d apostle_n will_v have_v wait_v for_o a_o trial_n and_o proof_n of_o their_o sincerity_n if_o so_o be_v such_o a_o trial_n and_o proof_n have_v be_v by_o christ_n institution_n necessary_a to_o go_v before_o the_o admission_n of_o man_n into_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n which_o act_v and_o direct_v the_o apostle_n do_v dictate_v they_o no_o such_o thing_n in_o like_a manner_n the_o samarit●…_n man_n and_o woman_n be_v baptize_v without_o any_o delay_n act_v 8._o 1●_n so_o simon_n at_o that_o same_o tim●_n albeit_o to_o that_o very_a day_n he_o have_v be_v a_o sorcerer_n dement_v that_o people_n with_o his_o devilish_a enchantment_n and_o with_o sacrilegious_a impiety_n give_v himself_o out_o as_o the_o great_a pow●…_n of_o god_n yet_o as_o soon_o as_o be_v convince_v by_o th●_n sight_n of_o miracle_n he_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n be_v baptize_v by_o philip._n final_o whosoever_o be_v baptize_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o we_o read_v of_o be_v baptize_v after_o this_o same_o manner_n nor_o can_v there_o be_v give_v from_o scripture_n so_o much_o as_o one_o instance_n of_o any_o one_o man_n who_o profess●…g_v the_o faith_n and_o desire_v the_o communion_n of_o th●_n church_n be_v refuse_v baptism_n for_o a_o time_n until_o he_o shall_v give_v a_o trial_n and_o evidence_n of_o the_o si●…erity_n of_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n in_o his_o heart_n section_n 12_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostl●…_n add_v the_o practice_n of_o jesus_n christ_n himself_o it_o be_v worthy_a of_o observation_n say_v mr._n baxter_n well_o against_o tomb_n pag._n 127._o that_o it_o be_v say_v john_n 3._o 26._o he_o baptize_v viz._n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o his_o disciple_n and_o all_o man_n come_v unto_o he_o whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o baptize_v man_n present_o and_o without_o delay_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o come_v and_o profess_v themselves_o his_o disciple_n shall_v we_o then_o miserable_a man_n not_o content_a with_o our_o lord_n example_n take_v upon_o we_o to_o be_v more_o severe_a and_o exact_a in_o his_o matter_n then_o himself_o very_o i_o can_v look_v upon_o this_o too_o great_a diligence_n but_o as_o a_o counsel_n of_o man_n pride_n shuffle_n itself_o in_o under_o a_o mask_n of_o purity_n ●…d_v accuracy_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o god_n section_n 13_o what_o further_o may_v be_v except_v against_o this_o argument_n build_v upon_o that_o ground_n whereon_o as_o a_o sufficient_a qualification_n christ_n his_o apostle_n and_o john_n baptist_n admit_v person_n to_o baptism_n i_o know_v not_o unless_o some_o haply_o will_v say_v that_o baptism_n do_v not_o constitute_v one_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o reverend_a hooker_n contend_v in_o a_o large_a dispute_n suru._n p._n 1._o c._n 4._o pag._n 55._o &_o seq_fw-la and_o that_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n and_o to_o be_v admit_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o that_o more_o may_v be_v require_v as_o a_o necessary_a antecedent_n qualification_n to_o this_o then_o be_v to_o that_o but_o as_o to_o this_o exception_n 1._o i_o yield_v that_o baptism_n in_o itself_o give_v not_o the_o be_v of_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o that_o one_o must_v be_v first_o a_o member_n thereof_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la which_o we_o say_v be_v give_v by_o such_o external_a profession_n as_o we_o have_v describe_v before_o to_o man_n of_o year_n and_o to_o infant_n by_o federall_a holiness_n derive_v from_o their_o parent_n otherwise_o baptism_n can_v not_o constitute_v one_o a_o member_n nevertheless_o we_o hold_v this_o for_o certain_a that_o baptism_n be_v the_o ordinary_a ordinance_n whereby_o solemn_a admission_n and_o initiation_n into_o actual_a communion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v perform_v neither_o since_o the_o time_n that_o baptism_n be_v institute_v can_v their_o be_v 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heresy_n whatsoever_o what_o a_o fair_a field_n for_o hunt_v and_o catch_v of_o soul_n will_v romish_n emissary_n have_v be_v this_o way_n of_o mr._n lockier_n put_v in_o practice_n in_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n i_o very_o think_v the_o keep_n of_o it_o on_o foot_n and_o drive_v it_o on_o in_o this_o island_n be_v not_o without_o influence_n from_o that_o antichristian_a synagogue_n upon_o this_o very_a design_n to_o overturn_v the_o protestant_a church_n section_n 28_o argument_n 6._o that_o doctrine_n which_o tend_v unavoidable_o to_o the_o hold_v out_o from_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o so_o from_o all_o the_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o grace_n and_o salvation_n institute_v by_o christ_n not_o only_o many_o who_o may_v be_v the_o elect_a of_o god_n and_o who_o we_o can_v but_o probable_o judge_v to_o be_v elect_v but_o also_o many_o who_o may_v have_v some_o measure_n of_o true_a regenerate_a grace_n in_o they_o and_o yet_o leave_v a_o door_n open_a to_o 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they_o who_o
the_o duty_n of_o his_o servant_n to_o cast_v out_o all_o such_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o they_o do_v see_v not_o to_o be_v qualify_v not_o gracious_a convert_n which_o be_v flat_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o be_v suppose_v in_o the_o antecedent_n now_o i_o assume_v that_o the_o antecedent_n be_v clear_o hold_v forth_o to_o we_o in_o these_o place_n 1._o it_o be_v clear_a that_o in_o these_o place_n he_o hold_v forth_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o its_o outward_a constitution_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n thereof_o to_o be_v a_o mix_a society_n of_o good_a and_o bad_a true_o gracious_a and_o such_o as_o be_v void_a of_o true_a grace_n and_o not_o only_o this_o but_o 2._o that_o not_o only_o he_o permit_v it_o to_o be_v so_o until_o the_o last_o day_n but_o also_o it_o be_v his_o will_n and_o he_o command_v his_o servant_n to_o permit_v such_o to_o abide_v in_o the_o church_n as_o even_o to_o their_o discern_a be_v bad_a leave_v the_o separation_n of_o they_o to_o himself_o at_o the_o last_o the_o servant_n say_v unto_o he_o will_v thou_o then_o that_o we_o go_v and_o gather_v they_o up_o yes_o will_v mr._n locky_a say_v leave_v not_o one_o of_o they_o no_o not_o one_o of_o they_o in_o a_o visible_a church_n they_o be_v where_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v they_o want_v the_o complexion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n etc._n etc._n but_o say_v the_o lord_n himself_o nay_o but_o let_v both_o grow_v together_o until_o the_o harvest_n section_n 33_o object_n if_o it_o shall_v be_v object_v against_o this_o exposition_n and_o application_n of_o this_o place_n that_o hereby_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o any_o profane_a one_o aught_o to_o be_v permit_v to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o in_o consequence_n be_v contrary_a to_o christ_n institution_n of_o ecclesiastic_a discipline_n enjoin_v incorrigible_a offender_n to_o be_v casten_z out_o and_o excommunicate_v and_o that_o therefore_o by_o these_o tare_n must_v be_v understand_v 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child_n shall_v be_v joint_o authoritative_a about_o these_o act_n of_o government_n but_o here_o in_o propound_v the_o assertion_n involve_v the_o matter_n in_o a_o ambiguous_a generality_n it_o will_v seem_v to_o bear_v the_o ignorant_a reader_n in_o hand_n that_o we_o do_v grant_v nothing_o to_o people_n about_o these_o act_n of_o government_n but_o a_o passive_a blind_a obedience_n to_o what_o be_v determine_v by_o the_o eldership_n it_o will_v seem_v i_o say_v this_o be_v the_o drift_n of_o it_o the_o rather_o that_o afterward_o sect_n 5._o end_n he_o hint_n at_o our_o doctrine_n in_o this_o expression_n if_o the_o manage_n of_o all_o thing_n be_v commit_v whole_o to_o the_o presbytery_n and_o the_o people_n leave_v out_o only_o to_o see_v and_o judge_v implicit_o by_o their_o eye_n and_o will_n who_o thus_o impropriat_a power_n but_o sure_o this_o be_v either_o a_o gross_a misunderstanding_n or_o a_o foul_a misrepresentation_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o presbyterian_o in_o this_o 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to_o mr._n lockier_n cause_n for_o the_o name_n presbytery_n or_o eldership_n be_v purposely_o choose_v in_o this_o text_n which_o mention_n lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o ordination_n will_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v it_o as_o elder_n and_o as_o a_o act_n of_o a_o assemby_n of_o elder_n not_o as_o a_o thing_n peculiar_a to_o they_o as_o apostle_n for_o no_o rational_a man_n will_v imagine_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n intend_v to_o express_v some_o extraordinary_a thing_n which_o the_o apostle_n do_v as_o apostle_n and_o which_o belong_v not_o to_o ordinary_a elder_n will_v in_o that_o very_a thing_n purposely_o call_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o assemby_n of_o elder_n 2._o that_o the_o presbytery_n here_o be_v not_o a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n but_o of_o elder_n who_o be_v not_o apostle_n may_v be_v prove_v 1_o by_o compare_v this_o text_n with_o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o the_o gift_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o thou_o by_o the_o put_n on_o of_o my_o hand_n if_o it_o have_v be_v a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n that_o have_v lay_v their_o hand_n on_o timothy_n and_o so_o join_v with_o paul_n in_o that_o action_n paul_n have_v not_o thus_o distinguish_v his_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n from_o that_o of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n as_o if_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v be_v give_v to_o timothy_n only_o by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o his_o hand_n and_o not_o by_o but_o with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n of_o this_o difference_n of_o the_o phrase_n in_o the_o one_o text_n and_o the_o other_o see_v this_o same_o worthy_a author_n pag._n 101._o 2._o apostle_n and_o elder_n be_v ordinary_o distinguish_v name_n in_o scripture_n the_o latter_a signify_v the_o ordinary_a perpetual_a fix_a ruler_n in_o the_o church_n so_o that_o it_o must_v be_v but_o a_o devise_a fiction_n to_o leave_v the_o ordinary_a notion_n of_o the_o word_n elder_a which_o signify_v a_o office_n diverse_a from_o the_o apostleship_n and_o to_o take_v the_o eldership_n here_o for_o a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n nay_o we_o do_v not_o find_v at_o any_o time_n in_o scripture_n the_o name_n elder_a give_v to_o the_o apostle_n at_o least_o never_o to_o they_o or_o any_o of_o they_o as_o apostle_n contradistinguish_v from_o other_o officer_n it_o be_v true_a peter_n 1_o epist_n 5._o 1._o call_v himself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o from_o that_o very_a appellation_n the_o worthy_a author_n we_o be_v now_o borrow_v from_o do_v excellent_o reason_n and_o for_o our_o purpose_n against_o mr._n locky_a here_o i_o need_v not_o transcribe_v his_o word_n see_v the_o book_n be_v common_a the_o reader_n may_v have_v recourse_n to_o itself_o and_o have_v much_o satisfaction_n see_v page_n 105_o 106_o 107._o
we_o conclude_v then_o and_o affirm_v that_o this_o eldership_n be_v no_o other_o but_o a_o assembly_n of_o elder_n as_o be_v these_o act_v 20._o 17._o ordinary_a elder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o expound_v it_o of_o a_o assembly_n of_o extraordinary_a officer_n be_v but_o a_o fiction_n without_o ground_n in_o scripture_n devise_v by_o man_n to_o shut_v out_o clear_a light_n and_o mr._n locky_a may_v remember_v that_o as_o able_a judicious_a man_n as_o be_v of_o his_o way_n the_o dissent_v brethren_n in_o the_o assembly_n at_o westminster_n in_o their_o reason_n against_o the_o proposition_n of_o ordination_n take_v it_o to_o be_v a_o ordinary_a eldership_n and_o so_o reason_n from_o it_o to_o the_o regulate_v of_o ordinary_a ordination_n of_o elder_n in_o the_o church_n that_o a_o sufficient_a presbytery_n say_v they_o meaning_n as_o be_v evident_a a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n may_v assume_v all_o and_o sole_a power_n of_o ordination_n be_v prove_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n section_n 4_o mr._n lockiers_n reason_n to_o prove_v the_o contrary_n be_v of_o no_o force_n timothy_n be_v a_o extraordinary_a officer_n a_o evangelist_n and_o it_o be_v beyond_o the_o power_n of_o ordinary_a officer_n to_o give_v be_v to_o a_o extraordinary_a that_o same_o worthy_a author_n we_o mention_v sufficient_o discover_v the_o weakness_n of_o it_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v pag._n 103._o for_o 1._o if_o it_o shall_v be_v say_v that_o timothy_n be_v twice_o ordain_v first_o to_o be_v a_o presbyter_n then_o to_o be_v a_o evangelist_n as_o some_o episcopal_a writer_n say_v to_o be_v a_o bishop_n but_o a_o bishop_n distinct_a from_o a_o presbyter_n be_v a_o humane_a creaature_n not_o in_o scripture_n and_o the_o first_o to_o be_v that_o mention_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o do_v by_o the_o ordinary_a eldership_n the_o second_o mention_v 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o do_v by_o paul_n a_o apostle_n a_o extraordinary_a officer_n above_o a_o 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assertion_n touch_v presbytery_n of_o many_o particular_a congregation_n combine_v whether_o classical_a or_o synodical_a and_o their_o power_n consider_v and_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n touch_v this_o matter_n between_o presbyterian_o and_o independent_o lay_v forth_o section_n 1_o in_o the_o former_a assertion_n the_o author_n will_v throw_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n the_o power_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n out_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o they_o who_o christ_n have_v appoint_v to_o be_v ruler_n over_o the_o church_n his_o officer_n to_o put_v the_o same_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o all_o and_o every_o one_o of_o the_o people_n and_o in_o the_o second_o he_o will_v so_o put_v they_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o one_o particular_a congregation_n may_v be_v of_o seven_o or_o ten_o person_n for_o of_o so_o many_o may_v a_o church_n be_v complete_o constitute_v by_o their_o way_n as_o that_o they_o shall_v exercise_v all_o that_o power_n even_o 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