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A62668 To receive the Lords Supper, the actual right and duty of all church-members of years not excommunicate made good against Mr. Collins his exceptions against The bar removed, written by the author : and what right the ignorant and scandalous tolerated in the church have to the Lords Supper declared : many thing belonging to that controversie more fully discussed, tending much to the peace and settlement of the church : and also a ful answer to what Mr. Collins hath written in defence of juridical suspension, wherein his pretended arguments from Scripture are examined and confuted : to which is also annexed A brief answer to the Antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders / by John Timson ... Timson, John.; Timson, John. Brief answer to the antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders. 1655 (1655) Wing T1296; ESTC R1970 185,323 400

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unto_o it_o be_v of_o no_o other_o religion_n then_o what_o the_o gospel_n teach_v they_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v worthy_a whatever_o they_o be_v for_o sincerity_n and_o truth_n so_o again_o matth._n 22._o concern_v the_o invite_a guest_n to_o the_o marriage_n supper_n which_o set_v forth_o the_o fat_a thing_n of_o the_o gospel_n administration_n and_o the_o grace_n thereof_o the_o messenger_n be_v send_v to_o call_v in_o the_o guest_n that_o be_v bid_v but_o they_o make_v light_a of_o it_o and_o will_v not_o come_v and_o some_o go_v to_o their_o farm_n and_o other_o to_o their_o merchandise_n and_o other_o abuse_v the_o servant_n that_o invite_v they_o etc._n etc._n then_o the_o king_n be_v wroth_a and_o destroy_v those_o murderer_n and_o say_v to_o his_o servant_n the_o wedding_n be_v ready_a but_o they_o that_o be_v invite_v be_v not_o worthy_a vers_fw-la 8._o this_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o unbelieve_a jew_n that_o total_o reject_v christ_n and_o will_v never_o come_v under_o his_o external_a administration_n set_v up_o in_o his_o church_n in_o order_n to_o salvation_n they_o be_v say_v you_o may_v see_v not_o to_o be_v worthy_a or_o unworthy_a but_o the_o gentile_n that_o come_v in_o though_o so●●_n come_v absurd_o and_o perish_v too_o at_o last_o y●●_n there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n say_v of_o they_o no_o the_o be_v worthy_a though_o they_o consist_v of_o goo●_n and_o bad_a the_o invitation_n privilege_a all●_n come_v there_o be_v no_o plead_v i_o be_o unworth_a to_o come_v but_o refusal_n be_v that_o which_o the_o unworthiness_n consist_v in_o only_a from_o the_o hint_n of_o scripture_n we_o may_v conceive_v there_o no_o such_o thing_n as_o personal_a unworthiness_n ●_o order_n to_o observance_n and_o duty_n of_o person_n in_o covenant_n relation_n which_o all_o be_v the_o have_v enter_v covenant_n though_o but_o in_o the_o parent_n until_o they_o renounce_v the_o covenant_n or_o for_o their_o hate_v to_o be_v reform_v by_o th●_n church_n just_a censure_n they_o be_v discovenante●_n conditional_o that_o if_o they_o never_o repent_v 〈◊〉_d return_n to_o their_o obedience_n in_o a_o right_a way_n the_o be_v go_v forever_o now_o than_o i_o say_v if_o t●_n scripture_n charge_v not_o any_o with_o unworthynesse_n of_o person_n but_o such_o as_o i_o have_v instance_a in_o who_o can_v imagine_v that_o the_o chur●●_n of_o corinth_n be_v punish_v for_o that_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v of_o mr._n collings_n of_o any_o other_o learned_a man_n where_o the_o scripture●_n threaten_v punishment_n against_o personal_a unworthiness_n simple_o or_o where_o can_v they_o give_v a_o instance_n that_o ever_o any_o shal_v punish_v for_o habitual_a unworthiness_n at_o all_o in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n if_o you_o can_v find_v such_o a_o thing_n in_o all_o the_o whole_a bible_n what_o reason_n can_v you_o have_v to_o judge_v that_o the_o corinth_n be_v punish_v for_o personal_a unworthiness_n it_o be_v true_a the_o sin_n of_o our_o nature_n derive_v from_o the_o first_o man_n be_v punish_v with_o death_n for_o we_o all_o die_v in_o adam_n but_o this_o natural_a death_n be_v a_o common_a lot_n appoint_v for_o all_o good_a and_o bad_a it_o be_v appoint_v for_o all_o man_n once_o to_o die_v heb._n 9.27_o and_o we_o see_v death_n reign_v over_o infant_n that_o have_v not_o sin_v after_o the_o similitude_n of_o adam_n transgression_n rom._n 5._o but_o in_o this_o both_o original_a sin_n and_o death_n that_o follow_v thereupon_o be_v of_o unavoidable_a necessity_n by_o the_o decree_n of_o god_n so_o likewise_o as_o actual_a sin_n be_v the_o transgression_n of_o the_o law_n he_o that_o so_o transgress_v be_v liable_a to_o the_o punishment_n of_o that_o law_n 10._o 1_o tim._n 1.9_o 10._o and_o the_o whole_a law_n itself_o be_v make_v for_o the_o lawless_a and_o disobedient_a for_o the_o ungodly_a and_o for_o sinner_n for_o murderer_n for_o whoremonger_n for_o liar_n and_o for_o perjure_a person_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v for_o the_o punishment_n of_o all_o wilful_a disobedience_n of_o man_n and_o so_o it_o be_v say_v of_o the_o church_n if_o you_o will_v walk_v contrary_a to_o i_o i_o will_v walk_v contrary_a to_o you_o you_o have_v i_o know_v of_o all_o the_o family_n of_o the_o earth_n yet_o the_o lord_n will_v punish_v they_o for_o their_o sin_n and_o wherefore_o do_v live_v man_n complain_v for_o the_o punishment_n of_o his_o sin_n lam._n 3.39_o all_o the_o punishment_n threaten_v in_o the_o word_n and_o inflict_v either_o by_o god_n or_o man_n be_v for_o actual_a offending_n but_o we_o never_o read_v of_o any_o come_n to_o the_o ordinance_n that_o be_v punish_v for_o a_o mere_a want_n of_o regeneration_n circumcision_n of_o the_o heart_n a_o interest_n in_o christ_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v a_o case_n the_o lord_n have_v always_o pity_n and_o promise_v the_o cure_n of_o unto_o his_o church_n forasmuch_o as_o no_o man_n can_v convert_v and_o rene●_n his_o own_o soul_n of_o himself_o nay_o of_o thos●_n that_o have_v the_o mean_n and_o use_v the_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o their_o salvation_n as_o the_o jew_n di●_n it_o be_v say_v not_o of_o he_o that_o will_v nor_o of_o b●_n that_o run_v but_o it_o be_v god_n that_o show_v mercy_n r●_n 9_o habitual_a unworthiness_n in_o that_o respe●_n be_v unavoidable_a and_o be_v the_o common_a state●_n all_o by_o nature_n as_o well_o they_o that_o be_v bear_v the_o church_n as_o those_o that_o be_v bear_v out_o of_o i●_n ephes_n 2._o but_o the_o covenant_n of_o promise_n a●_n make_v to_o the_o church_n for_o the_o cure_n of_o this_o d●_n praved_a state_n and_o the_o lord_n have_v set_v up_o 〈◊〉_d ordinance_n of_o word_n sacrament_n and_o pray●_n in_o the_o church_n as_o the_o ordinary_a mean_n fo●_n man_n to_o use_v in_o their_o conversion_n and_o salvation_n reveal_v in_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o covenant_n the_o neglect_n whereof_o be_v usual_o punish_v with_o blindness_n and_o profaneness_n not_o diligent_a frequent_v of_o they_o but_o what_o i●_n god_n do_v punish_v habitual_a or_o natural_a u●●_n worthiness_n it_o be_v a_o effect_n of_o adam_n defection_n what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o church_n that_o i●_n bound_v by_o a_o rule_n may_v they_o contrary_a t●_n all_o rule_n judge_n of_o it_o and_o punish_v it_o therefore_o with_o suspension_n from_o the_o sacrament_n our_o bless_a saviour_n rebuke_n this_o rash_a humour_n in_o man_n say_v judge_v not_o lest_o you_o be_v judge_v it_o be_v clear_a enough_o that_o we_o may_v judge_v of_o man_n action_n and_o find_v they_o transgresfor_n we_o may_v punish_v their_o person_n but_o we_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v to_o judge_v of_o man_n person_n let_v they_o be_v good_a or_o bad_a as_o to_o their_o person_n that_o be_v nothing_o to_o we_o we_o must_v leave_v they_o to_o stand_v or_o fall_v to_o their_o own_o master_n for_o what_o have_v we_o to_o do_v to_o judge_v another_o man_n servant_n but_o if_o either_o be_v find_v transgressor_n so_o far_o as_o their_o offending_n come_v within_o the_o church_n cognisance_n to_o punish_v let_v they_o impartial_o do_v it_o without_o respect_n of_o person_n in_o the_o church_n we_o read_v that_o those_o that_o be_v appoint_v to_o judge_v among_o their_o brethren_n 17._o deut._n 1_o 16_o 17._o be_v to_o judge_v righteous_o between_o every_o man_n and_o his_o brother_n without_o respect_n of_o person_n in_o judgement_n to_o hear_v the_o small_a as_o well_o as_o the_o great_a not_o fear_v the_o face_n of_o any_o man_n for_o the_o judgement_n be_v the_o lord_n and_o the_o cause_n that_o be_v too_o hard_a for_o man_n to_o judge_v of_o be_v to_o be_v bring_v before_o the_o lord_n and_o he_o will_v hear_v it_o there_o be_v a_o rule_n give_v to_o judge_v of_o cause_n and_o action_n between_o brother_n and_o brother_n and_o yet_o in_o point_n of_o cause_n and_o thing_n external_a that_o brethren_n may_v differ_v in_o these_o may_v be_v too_o hard_a for_o man_n to_o judge_v of_o how_o much_o more_o hard_a be_v it_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n within_o they_o whether_o they_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o christ_n or_o no_o sure_o if_o in_o the_o other_o much_o more_o in_o this_o we_o be_v to_o refer_v it_o to_o the_o lord_n beside_o you_o may_v see_v in_o judge_v about_o thing_n which_o concern_v the_o church_n matth._n 18._o 1._o it_o must_v be_v of_o evil_a action_n only_o 2._o upon_o sufficient_a proof_n 3._o and_o in_o case_n of_o obstinacy_n refuse_v 〈◊〉_d hear_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n before_o any_o judgement_n can_v issue_v out_o against_o they_o tell_v i_o ho●_n you_o can_v apply_v this_o rule_n to_o personal_a unwor●_n thinesse_n can_v this_o be_v attest_v upon_o oath_n o●_n be_v the_o church_n able_a to_o convince_v any_o in_o particular_a of_o it_o or_o be_v it_o
to_o it_o and_o come_v aught_o to_o be_v admit_v if_o the_o proposition_n be_v true_a answ_n as_o be_v grant_v it_o be_v than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o all_o church-member_n shall_v be_v encourage_v unto_o the_o partake_a of_o that_o which_o be_v for_o their_o spiritual_a good_a and_o it_o be_v most_o injurious_a for_o any_o to_o deprive_v any_o of_o that_o spiritual_a good_a that_o proffer_n themselves_o or_o discourage_v they_o so_o to_o do_v but_o he_o have_v two_o thing_n to_o except_v against_o the_o consequence_n he_o say_v be_v not_o the_o passeover_n so_o appoint_v yet_o he_o think_v unclean_a person_n may_v not_o come_v during_o their_o uncleanness_n but_o now_o there_o be_v no_o such_o uncleanness_n in_o the_o gospel_n church_n to_o hinder_v any_o answ_n 1_o they_o be_v no_o more_o debar_v the_o passeover_n then_o all_o other_o public_a worship_n nor_o so_o much_o for_o provision_n be_v make_v for_o they_o in_o that_o case_n not_o in_o the_o other_o and_o as_o that_o of_o moral_a uncleanness_n be_v no_o hindrance_n then_o so_o not_o now_o as_o have_v be_v show_v and_o hence_o his_o first_o exception_n be_v worth_a nothing_o but_o then_o 2._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o some_o reverend_a man_n think_v the_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v yet_o a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o shall_v not_o be_v baptize_v upon_o his_o repentance_n and_o he_o own_v the_o true_a religion_n and_o be_v baptize_v his_o repentance_n be_v suppose_v the_o sacrament_n be_v for_o his_o good_a but_o it_o will_v not_o therefore_o follow_v he_o ought_v in_o that_o state_n of_o his_o excommunication_n to_o come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v not_o material_a to_o the_o question_n answ_n 1_o whether_o the_o excommunicate_a be_v dismember_v or_o not_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o my_o purpose_n that_o he_o be_v dispossess_v of_o all_o external_a privilege_n of_o the_o church_n during_o his_o impenitency_n in_o that_o condition_n he_o be_v just_o sentence_v unto_o to_o debar_v he_o the_o sacrament_n and_o i_o think_v all_o party_n be_v agree_v in_o this_o and_o in_o this_o case_n i_o deny_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v for_o his_o good_a while_o he_o be_v under_o the_o last_o remedy_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n for_o his_o amendment_n or_o utter_a ruin_n then_o if_o you_o suppose_v his_o repentance_n and_o satisfy_v the_o church_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v loose_v from_o that_o sentence_n and_o receive_v into_o church_n communion_n again_o that_o the_o just_o excommunicate_a be_v absolute_o dismember_v be_v too_o harsh_a to_o affirm_v until_o we_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v that_o he_o hate_v to_o be_v reform_v under_o the_o church_n just_a censure_n add_v unto_o his_o incorrigible_a sin_v not_o only_a obstinacy_n but_o apostasy_n and_o then_o he_o be_v undo_v for_o ever_o for_o what_o the_o church_n bind_v on_o earth_n be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n though_o the_o church_n main_a end_n be_v only_o to_o reform_v and_o heal_v a_o disease_a member_n therefore_o though_o i_o shall_v grant_v he_o not_o absolute_o dismember_v and_o yet_o deny_v he_o the_o sacrament_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o church-member_n under_o church_n indulgence_n or_o forbearance_n may_v be_v deny_v the_o sacrament_n these_o be_v two_o different_a case_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o hurt_v my_o first_o proposition_n my_o second_o proposition_n be_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n consist_v of_o good_a and_o bad_a and_o this_o mr._n collins_n grant_v i_o also_o and_o it_o have_v such_o a_o dependence_n on_o the_o first_o that_o it_o complete_v for_o my_o opinion_n this_o argument_n the_o holy_a supper_n be_v institute_v for_o the_o spiritual_a good_a of_o every_o particular_a member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o this_o church_n of_o christ_n consist_v of_o good_a and_o bad_a regenerate_v and_o unregenerate_a therefore_o the_o holy_a supper_n be_v institute_v for_o the_o spiritual_a good_a of_o good_a and_o bad_a regenerate_v and_o unregenerate_a and_o consequent_o be_v to_o be_v administer_v to_o they_o in_o order_n to_o that_o good_a i_o conceive_v that_o both_o proposition_n bein●_n grant_v the_o conclusion_n can_v be_v deny_v my_o three_o be_v that_o the_o unregenerate_a in_o th●_n church_n be_v the_o only_a immediate_a object_n of_o the_o pr●mise_n of_o the_o first_o grace_n mr._n collins_n answer_v unto_o this_o thus_o that_o b●_n h●d_v rather_o say_v that_o the_o unregenerate_a be_v object_n 〈◊〉_d the_o first_o grace_n then_o of_o the_o promise_n of_o that_o grace_n 〈◊〉_d the_o promise_n profit_v not_o any_o without_o faith_n and_o h●●_n the_o unregenerate_a shall_v apply_v the_o promise_n he_o ca●not_v tell_v 1._o answ_n in_o grant_v they_o object_n of_o the_o fin●_n grace_n he_o grant_v they_o to_o be_v object_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o that_o grace_n unless_o the_o first_o grace_n be_v not_o at_o all_o to_o be_v look_v for_o from_o the_o promise_n 2._o nor_o promise_v unto_o any_o at_o all_o 3._o or_o else_o give_v to_o some_o to_o who_o god_n never_o promise_v it_o the_o which_o thing_n to_o affirm_v will_v be_v point_n blank_a against_o the_o scripture_n so_o that_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o mr._n collins_n do_v own_o any_o such_o thing_n as_o promise_n of_o give_v the_o first_o grace_n at_o all_o for_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o promise_n at_o all_o make_v to_o the_o church_n in_o general_n they_o must_v of_o necessity_n immediate_o respect_v some_o proper_a object_n that_o have_v not_o that_o grace_n of_o and_o in_o itself_o it_o be_v want_v and_o misery_n that_o be_v the_o proper_a object_n of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n but_o why_o shall_v mr._n collins_n express_v himself_o thus_o doubtful_o in_o such_o a_o main_a thing_n do_v he_o not_o baptize_v all_o infant_n upon_o this_o account_n chief_o that_o the_o promise_n be_v to_o the_o parent_n and_o child_n sure_o if_o they_o be_v not_o object_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o first_o grace_n the_o most_o of_o we_o every_o 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their_o child_n unto_o baptism_n if_o no_o promise_n belong_v to_o he_o to_o make_v use_n of_o as_o he_o be_v not_o his_o child_n baptism_n a_o considerable_a use_n the_o absolute_a promise_n of_o the_o first_o grace_n to_o the_o unregenerate_a be_v the_o main_a encouragement_n to_o the_o use_n of_o mean_n for_o the_o attainment_n of_o grace_n this_o be_v that_o which_o open_v a_o door_n of_o hope_n unto_o all_o and_o as_o they_o be_v sinner_n destitute_a of_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n they_o may_v right_o go_v to_o god_n and_o pray_v for_o a_o new_a heart_n and_o for_o his_o spirit_n to_o beget_v regenerate_v grace_n it_o their_o graceless_a spirit_n oh_o turn_v thou_o we_o lord_n and_o we_o shall_v be_v convert_v unto_o thou_o for_o thou_o never_o say_v to_o the_o seed_n of_o jacob_n seek_v you_o my_o face_n in_o vain_a and_o we_o be_v the_o seed_n of_o thy_o church_n and_o people_n who_o thou_o have_v promise_v to_o be_v a_o god_n unto_o and_o to_o make_v we_o thy_o people_n for_o 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be_v please_v to_o withhold_v the_o ordina●_n mean_v of_o their_o conversion_n from_o they_o th●_n they_o be_v object_n of_o that_o promise_n this_o be_v certain_a truth_n where_o the_o lord_n have_v a_o people_n to_o save_v he_o will_v either_o send_v his_o word_n to_o 〈◊〉_d they_o or_o bring_v they_o under_o the_o word_n by_o so●_n providence_n or_o other_o to_o that_o end_n as_o for_o tho●_n that_o be_v leave_v to_o wander_v in_o their_o own_o idolitrous_a way_n there_o be_v no_o hope_n to_o such_o if_o 〈◊〉_d gospel_n be_v hide_v it_o be_v hide_v to_o they_o that_o perish_v an●_n whereas_o mr._n collins_n say_v the_o sacrament_n belong_v only_o to_o those_o who_o by_o faith_n apply_v the_o promise●_n alas_o this_o he_o take_v for_o grant_v although_o be_v know_v we_o have_v deny_v it_o upon_o considerable_a ground_n take_v faith_n in_o his_o sense_n can_v any_o man_n imagine_v that_o all_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v able_a by_o faith_n to_o apply_v the_o promise_n yet_o 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suspension_n of_o some_o from_o the_o sacrament_n that_o as_o member_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v allow_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n in_o all_o other_o spiritual_a act_n of_o worship_n how_o this_o prove_v suspension_n of_o some_o distinct_a from_o excommunication_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o freedom_n of_o your_o own_o judgement_n to_o judge_v of_o in_o the_o next_o place_n without_o any_o wrong_n to_o the_o author_n i_o shall_v examine_v his_o three_o scripture_n argument_n deducible_a from_o 1_o cor._n 5._o rather_o choose_v to_o follow_v the_o apostle_n order_n in_o this_o epistle_n because_o by_o answer_v of_o this_o first_o it_o will_v save_v i_o some_o labour_n in_o my_o answer_n to_o his_o second_o 1_o cor._n 10.17_o his_o argument_n be_v this_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o such_o with_o who_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o themselves_o or_o their_o brethren_n to_o eat_v but_o there_o may_v be_v some_o in_o 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a_o journey_n and_o divers_a such_o case_n with_o relation_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o same_o person_n that_o i_o may_v not_o eat_v with_o the_o same_o person_n i_o may_v eat_v with_o so_o that_o if_o the_o apostle_n in_o 1_o cor._n 5.11_o mean_v but_o civil_a eat_n his_o first_o proposition_n be_v not_o good_a nor_o very_o clear_a which_o he_o will_v have_v his_o reader_n to_o believe_v without_o any_o doubt_n or_o proof_n if_o we_o may_v eat_v with_o a_o scandalous_a brother_n not_o legal_o cast_v out_o as_o before_o than_o we_o may_v have_v company_n and_o eat_v with_o such_o at_o the_o sacrament_n because_o give_v and_o receive_v at_o the_o sacrament_n be_v our_o necessary_a duty_n as_o profess_v christian_n and_o church-member_n which_o i_o have_v sufficient_o prove_v before_o the_o which_o the_o worst_a offender_n in_o the_o church_n may_v not_o careless_o neglect_v so_o long_o as_o they_o be_v in_o a_o church_n capacity_n to_o receive_v and_o that_o capacity_n remain_v 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we_o to_o answer_v it_o or_o to_o prove_v the_o continuance_n of_o it_o to_o the_o church_n use_v at_o all_o because_o at_o first_o it_o be_v give_v to_o extraordinary_a person_n in_o office_n only_o but_o if_o he_o will_v allow_v the_o whole_a of_o holy_a scripture_n he_o may_v see_v enough_o to_o justify_v the_o right_n of_o all_o in_o the_o church_n in_o general_n without_o any_o peculiar_a choice_n 1_o cor._n 10.17_o act._n 2.42_o ch_n 20.7_o 2._o if_o this_o precedent_n matth._n 26.26_o be_v fore-determine_a by_o christ_n to_o be_v a_o example_n and_o rule_n for_o the_o church_n then_o 1._o who_o must_v administer_v this_o ordinance_n now_o according_a to_o this_o pattern_n christ_n himself_o only_o bless_v and_o give_v it_o unto_o apostle_n only_o 2._o then_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o none_o but_o person_n in_o office_n and_o of_o the_o ministry_n shall_v receive_v it_o 3._o then_o the_o great_a part_n of_o sincere_a disciple_n and_o follower_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v leave_v out_o for_o without_o doubt_n there_o be_v many_o such_o at_o that_o present_a that_o be_v not_o admit_v beside_o the_o seventy_o disciple_n sometime_o send_v forth_o to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n there_o be_v other_o holy_a person_n both_o man_n and_o woman_n the_o name_n that_o present_o meet_v together_o for_o religious_a and_o divine_a employment_n be_v about_o a_o hundred_o and_o twenty_o of_o who_o some_o choice_n person_n be_v name_v as_o mary_v the_o mother_n of_o jesus_n and_o other_o woman_n and_o mathias_n and_o barsabas_n act._n 1.14_o 15_o 23._o which_o christ_n give_v not_o the_o sacrament_n unto_o therefore_o if_o this_o precedent_n must_v be_v our_o rule_n no_o wonder_n they_o refuse_v as_o good_a as_o they_o admit_v nay_o better_o than_o they_o admit_v for_o without_o doubt_n christ_n give_v it_o to_o some_o that_o afterward_o discover_v great_a ignorance_n and_o unbelief_n beside_o one_o of_o they_o be_v a_o devil_n 4._o if_o this_o precedent_n must_v be_v our_o rule_n as_o it_o be_v urge_v then_o there_o must_v be_v a_o choice_n of_o some_o peculiar_a holy_a one_o out_o of_o holy_a one_o admit_v and_o as_o holy_a and_o sincere_a refuse_v and_o yet_o see_v how_o the_o author_n prevaricate_v and_o depart_v from_o this_o precedent_n in_o another_o place_n where_o he_o say_v our_o way_n be_v only_o to_o exclude_v the_o visible_o unworthy_a and_o no_o other_o pag._n 166._o 3._o if_o all_o that_o christ_n give_v the_o sacrament_n unto_o be_v not_o holy_a than_o the_o argument_n will_v fall_v of_o itself_o but_o christ_n give_v it_o unto_o judas_n who_o he_o know_v be_v a_o traitor_n and_o have_v conspire_v with_o other_o of_o his_o enemy_n to_o destroy_v he_o therefore_o all_o that_o christ_n give_v it_o unto_o be_v not_o holy_a one_o and_o so_o the_o argument_n ●als_v that_o which_o be_v to_o be_v make_v good_a be_v the_o minor_a for_o indeed_o some_o be_v in_o doubt_n whether_o judas_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n or_o no._n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v a_o little_a touch_n upon_o that_o and_o it_o will_v be_v make_v good_a from_o matth._n 26.26_o his_o own_o quotation_n in_o this_o text_n christ_n give_v the_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n to_o his_o disciple_n and_o say_v take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n judas_n be_v one_o of_o his_o disciple_n that_o sit_v down_o at_o the_o table_n vers_fw-la 20._o when_o even_o be_v come_v he_o sit_v down_o with_o the_o twelve_o and_o one_o of_o this_o twelve_o shall_v betray_v he_o vers_n 21._o and_o that_o judas_n continue_v at_o the_o supper_n it_o evident_a vers_fw-la 23._o he_o that_o dip_v with_o i_o in_o the_o dish_n the_o same_o be_v he_o and_o st._n mark_n 14._o chap._n of_o his_o gospel_n vers_fw-la 17.20_o relate_v just_o the_o same_o with_o st._n matthew_n then_o come_v to_o saint_n luke_n chap._n 22.14_o 21._o he_o agree_v with_o the_o former_a that_o all_o the_o twelve_o sit_v down_o and_o he_o in_o special_a speak_v of_o the_o action_n do_v at_o 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judas_n be_v at_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o do_v do_v as_o the_o other_o do_v for_o any_o thing_n in_o the_o least_o hint_v at_o by_o these_o three_o that_o write_v first_o of_o this_o holy_a history_n and_o how_o ever_o it_o shall_v come_v into_o the_o head_n of_o any_o so_o much_o as_o to_o scruple_n such_o a_o thing_n whether_o judas_n one_o of_o the_o twelve_o that_o sit_v and_o eat_v at_o the_o same_o table_n with_o christ_n and_o the_o other_o receive_v the_o holy_a supper_n or_o no_o especial_o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o hint_n of_o his_o exclusion_n or_o withdraw_a more_o than_o of_o the_o other_o be_v to_o be_v admire_v without_o doubt_n we_o may_v rational_o conclude_v from_o these_o three_o that_o judas_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n as_o well_o as_o peter_n or_o james_n or_o thomas_n etc._n etc._n for_o they_o be_v not_o record_v to_o have_v receive_v it_o by_o name_n in_o particular_a but_o as_o they_o be_v his_o disciple_n and_o of_o the_o twelve_o that_o sit_v down_o at_o the_o table_n but_o than_o you_o will_v say_v how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o this_o of_o judas_n receive_v or_o not_o be_v make_v such_o a_o great_a controversy_n in_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n answ_n that_o which_o have_v occasion_v this_o controversy_n from_o the_o four_o evangelist_n be_v in_o joh._n 13.30_o judas_n have_v receive_v the_o sop_n go_v immediate_o out_o and_o it_o be_v night_n hence_o it_o be_v conceive_v that_o john_n have_v relation_n to_o the_o passeover_n supper_n and_o this_o sop_n be_v some_o part_n of_o that_o service_n and_o upon_o his_o eat_v this_o the_o devil_n enter_v vers_fw-la 27._o and_o he_o go_v out_o immediate_o before_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v institute_v and_o give_v and_o bring_v about_o his_o actual_a treason_n in_o a_o part_n of_o that_o night_n this_o place_n and_o sense_n have_v occasion_v the_o question_n and_o quarrel_n as_o to_o judas_n so_o far_o as_o ever_o i_o can_v meet_v with_o any_o colour_n of_o reason_n therefore_o now_o i_o shall_v both_o brief_o and_o plain_o give_v you_o my_o thought_n how_o to_o reconcile_v the_o evangelist_n and_o to_o satisfy_v any_o that_o be_v rational_a i_o hope_v 1._o it_o can_v never_o be_v prove_v that_o st._n john_n do_v so_o much_o as_o mention_v or_o mean_v the_o passeover_n supper_n in_o the_o 13._o of_o john_n at_o all_o only_o he_o give_v a_o more_o particular_a account_n of_o that_o supper_n which_o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n have_v together_o at_o bethany_n two_o day_n before_o the_o feast_n of_o the_o passeover_n in_o the_o house_n of_o one_o simon_n a_o leper_n where_o a_o woman_n pour_v upon_o christ_n head_n a_o box_n of_o very_o costly_a ointment_n etc._n etc._n all_o the_o evangelist_n speak_v of_o this_o supper_n matth._n 26.2_o
call_v they_o be_v forbid_v but_o who_o in_o the_o church_n be_v they_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o some_o that_o do_v eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o but_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v therefore_o that_o their_o person_n be_v unworthy_a because_o some_o of_o their_o action_n be_v i_o have_v insist_v large_o upon_o this_o in_o answer_n to_o mr._n collins_n the_o truth_n be_v how_o can_v they_o be_v say_v to_o be_v forbid_v that_o be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o baptize_v and_o as_o such_o be_v under_o the_o command_n of_o all_o institute_n worship_n nay_o it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o excommunication_n do_v disoblige_v from_o precept_n of_o worship_n although_o the_o church_n may_v lawful_o deny_v they_o the_o benefit_n of_o all_o worship_n in_o the_o punish_n of_o impenitent_a scandalous_a sinner_n for_o their_o amendment_n a_o prison_n do_v not_o excuse_v a_o felon_n from_o duty_n of_o public_a worship_n when_o he_o by_o his_o own_o sin_v have_v bring_v 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the_o other_o two_o and_o a_o half_a josh_n 22._o when_o they_o hear_v that_o the_o two_o have_v erect_v a_o altar_n of_o their_o own_o head_n conceive_v they_o be_v in_o a_o superstitious_a rebellion_n in_o forsake_v the_o way_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o so_o to_o provoke_v the_o lord_n unto_o anger_n to_o punish_v the_o whole_a congregation_n as_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o peor_n and_o achan_n so_o may_v we_o be_v jealous_a and_o suspicious_a of_o these_o new_a invent_a way_n so_o vigorous_o act_v in_o by_o our_o brethren_n which_o tend_v so_o evident_o to_o make_v division_n and_o schism_n in_o the_o church_n and_o be_v such_o a_o impediment_n that_o do_v obstruct_v and_o make_v void_a all_o hope_n of_o attain_n unto_o that_o discipline_n that_o god_n have_v prescribe_v for_o the_o health_n and_o welfare_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n they_o can_v say_v as_o the_o two_o tribe_n of_o their_o altar_n it_o be_v not_o for_o sacrifice_v but_o for_o a_o witness_n to_o the_o other_o tribe_n 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they_o proceed_v to_o censure_n gradual_o and_o for_o no_o other_o cause_n but_o for_o the_o like_a sin_n and_o scandal_n that_o the_o word_n direct_v in_o 4._o query_n whether_o the_o church_n shall_v own_o man_n to_o be_v member_n for_o a_o bare_a profession_n etc._n etc._n i_o confess_v i_o do_v the_o more_o wonder_n at_o the_o query_n answ_n because_o the_o most_o of_o sober_a divine_n be_v tax_v for_o unfoundnesse_n in_o hold_v the_o affirmative_a and_o yet_o himself_o say_v the_o child_n of_o such_o be_v holy_a federal_o and_o therefore_o to_o be_v baptize_v whereas_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o church_n member_n how_o come_v their_o child_n to_o be_v holy_a federal_o and_o to_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n that_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o child_n of_o such_o that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o if_o a_o remote_a right_n may_v serve_v to_o bring_v in_o the_o child_n of_o such_o a_o bare_a professor_n as_o he_o pag_n 129._o then_o why_o have_v not_o the_o parent_n of_o that_o child_n the_o same_o remote_a right_n as_o be_v a_o generation_n near_o that_o right_a they_o be_v not_o excommunicate_a as_o be_v suppose_v be_v the_o child_n a_o member_n without_o so_o much_o as_o a_o bare_a profession_n and_o the_o parent_n none_o that_o profess_v christianity_n external_o a_o bare_a profession_n may_v be_v serious_a in_o its_o kind_n i_o suppose_v though_o it_o want_v the_o will_n of_o holiness_n so_o that_o if_o we_o add_v to_o a_o historical_a or_o temporary_a professor_n but_o to_o be_v serious_a and_o real_a in_o his_o profession_n for_o the_o present_a he_o may_v pass_v for_o a_o member_n with_o he_o and_o i_o shall_v think_v those_o man_n very_o uncharitable_a that_o judge_n less_o of_o we_o general_o that_o frequent_a god_n ordinance_n and_o take_v themselves_o great_o wrong_v when_o they_o be_v deprive_v of_o any_o one_o i_o take_v it_o to_o be_v a_o good_a sign_n that_o they_o be_v serious_a in_o what_o they_o profess_v and_o then_o this_o be_v but_o the_o same_o which_o in_o other_o he_o conceive_v unsound_a 2._o what_o shall_v be_v do_v with_o the_o child_n of_o the_o most_o godly_a when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o if_o profession_n without_o true_a holiness_n do_v not_o continue_v such_o member_n forasmuch_o that_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n leave_v to_o dismember_v for_o ignorance_n or_o want_n of_o the_o work_n of_o true_a holiness_n regeneration_n etc._n etc._n member_n such_o be_v not_o only_o by_o birth_n but_o formal_o by_o the_o church_n approbational_a act_n of_o baptism_n they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o renounce_v or_o forsake_v their_o christian_a profession_n that_o they_o adhere_v to_o the_o external_a part_n of_o it_o and_o be_v not_o scandalous_a they_o neither_o fall_v off_o nor_o be_v cut_v off_o by_o any_o rule_n or_o act_v of_o censure_n what_o hinder_v they_o but_o that_o such_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o have_v a_o true_a right_n to_o all_o the_o external_a privilege_n of_o membership_n 3._o if_o positive_a unbelief_n in_o deny_v the_o person_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n on_o who_o the_o church_n be_v build_v cut_v off_o person_n from_o the_o church_n as_o be_v clear_o speak_v of_o the_o jew_n rom._n 11._o then_o the_o contrary_a to_o that_o infidelity_n which_o be_v a_o real_a own_n and_o profess_v the_o person_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n continue_v those_o that_o be_v member_n bear_v to_o be_v member_n so_o long_o as_o they_o hold_v to_o the_o christian_a profession_n excommunication_n dismember_v but_o conditional_o for_o in_o case_n the_o offender_n external_o reform_v and_o hold_v to_o his_o profession_n and_o promise_v amendment_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v loose_v from_o that_o censure_n but_o i_o hasten_v what_o shall_v minister_n do_v while_o government_n be_v unsettle_a query_n 5_o and_o their_o people_n opposite_a to_o way_n of_o reformation_n 1._o shall_v they_o give_v the_o sacrament_n promiscuous_o to_o all_o 2._o shall_v they_o by_o their_o own_o antiquity_n exclude_v the_o unfit_a 3._o or_o shall_v they_o whole_o desist_v to_o the_o last_o he_o answer_v that_o the_o use_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o supper_n be_v so_o necessary_a as_o that_o it_o may_v not_o always_o nor_o long_v be_v discontinue_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n do_v this_o require_v obedience_n this_o he_o say_v be_v well_o prove_v by_o mr._n joane_n but_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o close_o with_o he_o in_o another_o point_n namely_o that_o while_o the_o church_n be_v undisciplined_a the_o sacrament_n may_v be_v administer_v in_o every_o congregation_n without_o any_o separation_n but_o he_o conceive_v that_o the_o lord_n supper_n can_v be_v holy_o transact_v by_o any_o unless_o the_o scandalous_a be_v remove_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 169._o 1._o answ_n it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o their_o people_n be_v opposite_a to_o true_a reformation_n or_o no_o because_o they_o be_v never_o yet_o try_v with_o it_o and_o therefore_o who_o can_v tell_v whether_o they_o will_v oppose_v it_o or_o no_o that_o they_o be_v opposite_a to_o such_o way_n of_o reformation_n as_o the_o author_n pretend_v to_o and_o labour_n to_o defend_v be_v no_o great_a wonder_n when_o minister_n will_v venture_v to_o speak_v and_o do_v such_o thing_n to_o reform_v they_o which_o be_v not_o where_o to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o in_o their_o own_o will_n and_o fancy_n as_o i_o have_v discover_v already_o it_o be_v well_o he_o be_v so_o sober_a as_o to_o hold_v the_o administer_a of_o the_o lord_n supper_n so_o necessary_a that_o it_o may_v not_o long_o be_v omit_v and_o that_o he_o assent_v to_o that_o reverend_a minister_n mr._n joanes_o who_o have_v do_v the_o church_n most_o eminent_a service_n in_o that_o undertake_n of_o he_o and_o then_o if_o it_o be_v a_o necessary_a duty_n require_v obedience_n why_o then_o this_o may_v satisfy_v he_o in_o answer_n to_o his_o first_o shall_v they_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o all_o yeato_fw-mi all_o that_o be_v concern_v in_o christian_a obedience_n and_o observance_n which_o all_o in_o your_o parish_n that_o be_v baptize_v and_o of_o year_n be_v as_o well_o to_o this_o as_o to_o any_o other_o part_n of_o institute_v worship_n in_o the_o church_n and_o there_o be_v no_o more_o danger_n in_o the_o word_n promiscuous_a to_o this_o ordinance_n then_o to_o all_o other_o there_o be_v as_o much_o to_o be_v say_v for_o the_o cast_v the_o scandalous_a out_o of_o the_o church_n as_o from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o more_o too_o for_o we_o have_v no_o rule_n at_o all_o to_o exclude_v a_o scandalous_a member_n from_o the_o sacrament_n while_o he_o be_v within_o but_o we_o have_v clear_a rule_n to_o cast_v such_o out_o of_o the_o church_n by_o excommunication_n and_o then_o removal_n from_o the_o sacrament_n fall_v in_o as_o a_o consequence_n of_o that_o juridical_a act_n and_o no_o otherwise_o that_o minister_n be_v in_o a_o very_a great_a strait_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o one_o hand_n to_o administer_v say_v he_o and_o yet_o perchance_o have_v a_o wicked_a party_n predominant_a to_o hinder_v any_o good_a course_n of_o separation_n answ_n the_o strait_n be_v not_o to_o great_a more_o as_o in_o show_n and_o conceit_n man_n first_o receive_v false_a principle_n and_o then_o conclude_v according_o from_o they_o and_o that_o bring_v they_o into_o strait_n whereas_o if_o they_o be_v right_o inform_v of_o their_o own_o duty_n and_o their_o people_n privilege_n as_o church-member_n the_o case_n be_v easy_a christ_n command_v to_o all_o his_o visible_a subject_n while_o they_o be_v within_o be_v a_o sufficient_a warranty_n &_o upon_o this_o very_a ground_n you_o be_v now_o in_o no_o more_o straight_o about_o the_o lord_n supper_n then_o in_o all_o other_o worship_n which_o many_o scarce_o make_v so_o much_o as_o a_o scruple_n of_o his_o say_n that_o this_o be_v against_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n he_o intend_v it_o for_o disciple_n only_o be_v pitiful_a weak_a when_o himself_o grant_v the_o baptise_v of_o the_o child_n of_o all_o as_o holy_a federal_o from_o their_o parent_n which_o can_v be_v true_a unless_o their_o parent_n be_v believer_n or_o disciple_n as_o have_v be_v show_v and_o therefore_o in_o grant_v that_o it_o do_v necessary_o prove_v the_o lawful_a right_n of_o all_o to_o the_o holy_a supper_n baptism_n &_o lord_n supper_n be_v but_o the_o same_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n in_o which_o both_o be_v in_o clude_v and_o concern_v and_o doubtless_o a_o single_a minister_n be_v not_o impower_v with_o authority_n to_o excommunicate_v juridical_o which_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v be_v mr._n joane_v his_o advantage_n upon_o his_o adversary_n he_o hold_v they_o strict_o to_o some_o such_o presbyterian_a principle_n as_o this_o which_o i_o wonder_v that_o any_o man_n shall_v dare_v to_o assume_v to_o
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