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A27524 Bertram or Ratram concerning the body and blood of the Lord in Latin : with a new English translation, to which is prefix'd an historical dissertation touching the author and this work.; De corpore et sanguine Domini. English Ratramnus, monk of Corbie, d. ca. 868. 1688 (1688) Wing B2051; ESTC R32574 195,746 521

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hoc_fw-la quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la carnem_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la accipiendum_fw-la est_fw-la jam_fw-la enim_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la christi_fw-la non_fw-la essent_fw-la nullum_fw-la enim_fw-la signum_fw-la est_fw-la illud_fw-la cujus_fw-la est_fw-la signum_fw-la nec_fw-la res_fw-la aliqua_fw-la svi_fw-la ipsius_fw-la dicitur_fw-la signum_fw-la sed_fw-la alterius_fw-la apud_fw-la mabill_n a._n b._n s._n 4._o p._n 2._o praef._n n._n 93._o the_o consecrate_a element_n to_o be_v sign_n of_o christ_n body_n nor_o will_v the_o text_n cite_v by_o paschase_n bring_v he_o off_o for_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d original_a christ_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o figure_n of_o his_o person_n not_o his_o substance_n and_o the_o vulgar_a interpreter_n must_v mean_v subsistence_n by_o substantia_fw-la or_o he_o be_v a_o arian_n for_o the_o son_n be_v the_o image_n not_o of_o the_o essence_n but_o the_o person_n of_o the_o father_n and_o 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