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A30189 An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball. Ball, John, 1585-1640.; Ashe, Simeon, d. 1662. 1642 (1642) Wing B558; ESTC R3127 281,779 264

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but_o if_o they_o can_v prevail_v they_o must_v not_o cut_v themselves_o off_o from_o the_o body_n and_o excommunicate_v the_o society_n for_o if_o the_o church_n may_v want_v yea_o neglect_v the_o use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n for_o a_o time_n and_o yet_o continue_v the_o true_a 4._o true_a hieron_n in_o tit._n 1._o amb._n in_o 1_o tim._n 5._o bill_n perpet_n c._n 11._o gratian._n decret_a cap._n 15._o qu._n 7._o ca._n 2.5_o 6_o 7._o council_n turon_n 2._o c._n 7._o nic._n abbas_n panor_n in_o decret_a gregor_n 9_o de_fw-la consuetud_fw-la cap._n 4._o olim_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la in_o communi_fw-la regebant_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la &_o ordinabant_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la cypr._n epist_n 6._o or_o lib._n 3._o epist_n 10._o &_o lib._n 1._o epist_n 9_o council_n carthag_n 4._o ca._n 23._o tho._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d qu._n 71._o art_n 5._o ad_fw-la tertium_fw-la bonav_n in_o 1_o send_v do_v 48._o art_n 2._o qu._n 1._o in_o resol_n scor._n in_o 3_o send_v do_v 9_o qu._n unica_fw-la n._n 4._o church_n of_o 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of_o their_o salvation_n vnreasona_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 61._o aug._n epist_n contr_n parm._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 2._o bezacontr_n eras_n de_fw-fr excom_n feild_n of_o the_o ch●_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 17._o eccl._n lugdun_n lib._n de_fw-fr tenenda_fw-la verit_fw-la script_n post_v medium_n in_o biblioth_n patr_n tom_fw-mi 4._o par_fw-fr 2._o edit_n 4._o opportunity_n and_o call_v a_o man_n forth_o thereunto_o as_o profession_n of_o the_o faith_n by_o join_v ourselves_o to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o partake_v of_o the_o sacrament_n other_o oblige_v in_o a_o time_n free_a which_o do_v not_o oblige_v in_o a_o time_n not_o free_a as_o when_o urgent_a necessity_n the_o circumstance_n of_o time_n and_o place_n the_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o thing_n do_v restrain_v and_o keep_v back_o as_o the_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n against_o open_a obstinâte_a offender_n be_v a_o affirmative_a duty_n impose_v by_o divine_a law_n upon_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o 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this_o the_o nor●●●formists_n do_v both_o teach_v and_o practice_n and_o therefore_o they_o have_v humble_o sue_v for_o reformation_n but_o never_o either_o practise_v or_o approve_v your_o separation_n that_o which_o you_o cite_v out_o of_o the_o harmony_n of_o confession_n as_o if_o the_o reform_a church_n do_v allow_v or_o teach_v what_o you_o practice_n i_o will_v set_v down_o and_o leave_v it_o to_o every_o man_n to_o judge_v of_o your_o fidelity_n the_o church_n 309._o church_n gallic_n confess_v art_n 26._o none_o but_o prince_n can_v give_v freedom_n and_o protection_n to_o these_o spiritual_a function_n and_o action_n bilson_n christian_n part_n 2._o pag._n 309._o gallican_n say_v thus_o credimus_fw-la igitur_fw-la nemi●●●_fw-la licer●_n seize_v catibus_fw-la subducer●_n &_o in_o seipso_fw-la aequiescere_fw-la sed_fw-la patius_fw-la 〈◊〉_d s●●●il_fw-la tuendam_fw-la &_o conseruandam_fw-la esse_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la unitatem_fw-la sese_fw-la communi_fw-la institutioni_fw-la &_o jugo_fw-la christi_fw-la subijciendo_fw-la ubjcunque_fw-la deus_fw-la ver●●n_fw-la illam_fw-la disaiplinam_fw-la ecclesiastio●n_fw-la constistuerit_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la magistratuum_fw-la edicta_fw-la reclament_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la oxdi●●_n quicubque_fw-la seipsos_fw-la sei●●gunt_fw-la ordinationi_fw-la dei_fw-la resistant_n psal_n 5._o &_o 42._o ephes_n 4.11_o act._n 4.19_o &_o 5.29_o heb._n 10.25_o and_o the_o prince_n the_o belgic_a confessart_n 28._o without_o the_o help_n of_o prince_n though_o the_o faith_n and_o canon_n of_o christ_n church_n may_v be_v private_o profess_v and_o observe_v of_o such_o as_o be_v willing_a yet_o can_v they_o not_o be_v general_o plant_v or_o settle_v in_o any_o kingdom_n nor_o urge_v by_o public_a law_n &_o external_a punishment_n on_o such_o as_o refuse_v but_o by_o their_o consent_n that_o bear_v the_o sword_n bill_n ibid._n pag._n 327._o id._n part_n 3._o pag._n 296._o if_o you_o will_v have_v the_o assistance_n of_o the_o magistrate_n sword_n 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christi_fw-la jugo_fw-la sponte_fw-la submittere_fw-la &_o tanquan●_n communia_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la corporis_fw-la membra_fw-la adificationi_fw-la fratrum_fw-la inservire_fw-la prout_fw-la deus_fw-la unicuique_fw-la sva_fw-la dona_fw-la fuerit_fw-la largitus_fw-la porro_fw-la ut_fw-la haee_fw-la melius_fw-la observentur_fw-la omnium_fw-la fidelium_fw-la part_n sunt_fw-la sese_fw-la juxta_fw-la dei_fw-la verbum_fw-la ab_fw-la eye_n omnibus_fw-la disjungere_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la extra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la constituti_fw-la huicque_n fidelium_fw-la caetui_fw-la ac_fw-la congregationi_fw-la seize_v adjungere_fw-la ubicunque_fw-la illam_fw-la deus_fw-la constituerit_fw-la et_fw-la si_fw-la id_fw-la contraria_fw-la principum_fw-la vel_fw-la magistratuum_fw-la edicta_fw-la prohibeant_fw-la indicta_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o eos_fw-la capitis_fw-la &_o mortis_fw-la corporcae_fw-la poenâ_fw-la qui_fw-la id_fw-la fecerint_fw-la quicunque_fw-la igitur_fw-la à_fw-la vera_fw-la illa_fw-la 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