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for_o they_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o she_o have_v no_o milk_n in_o her_o two_o breast_n but_o write_v doctrine_n but_o he_o say_v she_o two_o breast_n be_v the_o two_o testament_n of_o divine_a scripture_n hence_o you_o may_v gather_v that_o in_o each_o of_o her_o breast_n in_o each_o of_o the_o testament_n the_o milk_n of_o scripture_n be_v contain_v but_o that_o only_o the_o milk_n of_o write_a doctrine_n be_v in_o they_o contain_v you_o can_v from_o this_o text_n true_o cite_v infer_v &_o therefore_o both_o by_o addition_n and_o transposition_n of_o word_n you_o help_v the_o dice_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n have_v no_o credit_n or_o authority_n but_o from_o scripture_n and_o that_o though_o this_o tradition_n may_v be_v false_a yet_o faith_n will_v subsist_v because_o there_o remain_v always_o a_o high_a and_o more_o sovereign_a judge_n to_o wit_n god_n speak_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o prove_v this_o i_o say_v you_o c_o you_o pag._n 90._o in_o 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to_o keep_v her_o credit_n and_o authority_n in_o our_o faith_n very_o it_o can_v except_o christian_n will_v cease_v to_o rely_v on_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n reveal_v and_o on_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o the_o succession_n of_o bishop_n &_o hunt_v after_o divine_a and_o apostolical_a scripture_n by_o the_o send_v and_o smell_v of_o the_o doctrine_n deliver_v therein_o as_o you_o do_v likewise_o by_o addition_n of_o the_o particle_n only_o you_o falsify_v the_o say_n of_o lit_fw-fr of_o pag._n 95._o lin_v 31._o &_o in_o marg._n lit_fw-fr paschasius_fw-la for_o whereas_o he_o promittit_fw-la he_o paschas_fw-la in_o matth._n c._n 28._o cum_fw-la electis_fw-la semper_fw-la adfuturum_fw-la se_fw-la promittit_fw-la say_v christ_n promise_v to_o be_v with_o his_o elect_n all_o day_n until_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n you_o cite_v he_o as_o say_v only_o with_o the_o elect_a more_o gross_o in_o the_o same_o place_n you_o falsify_v druthmarus_n for_o whereas_o matth._n whereas_o in_o cap._n 28._o matth._n he_o say_v christ_n be_v with_o the_o reprobate_n by_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o godhead_n but_o with_o the_o elect_a in_o another_o manner_n you_o make_v he_o say_v christ_n promise_v to_o be_v only_o with_o the_o elect_a contrary_a to_o his_o meaning_n who_o teach_v that_o the_o presence_n and_o perpetual_a assistance_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v so_o unite_v unto_o his_o church_n &_o her_o pastor_n that_o they_o may_v not_o err_v but_o still_o teach_v all_o that_o he_o command_v but_o that_o presence_n whereof_o that_o text_n proper_o speak_v be_v not_o only_o afford_v unto_o the_o elect_n but_o unto_o wicked_a man_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o all_o worthy_a communicant_n as_o yourself_o 14._o yourself_o pag._n 52._o lin_v 14._o affirm_v you_o 105._o you_o see_v pag._n 105._o rail_v bitter_o against_o the_o jesuit_n for_o prove_v that_o your_o protestant_a church_n can_v be_v the_o true_a church_n nor_o part_n thereof_o because_o you_o sever_v yourselves_o from_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o do_v not_o join_v unto_o any_o preexistent_a christian_a society_n of_o pastor_n but_o apart_v yourselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n for_o this_o his_o argument_n you_o rail_v against_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o a_o whole_a leaf_n pag._n 106._o and_o 107._o where_o thus_o you_o conclude_v your_o foul_a foliall_a inuective_n they_o since_o their_o synod_n of_o trent_n have_v proceed_v from_o evil_a to_o worse_o this_o worse_o the_o minister_n in_o proof_n of_o all_o this_o bring_v nothing_o only_o in_o the_o margin_n he_o name_v the_o massacre_n of_o paris_n be_v that_o do_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n do_v that_o prove_v obscure_v and_o outface_v of_o truth_n have_v not_o the_o protestant_n then_o slay_v be_v traitor_n against_o their_o king_n be_v not_o the_o king_n inform_v of_o their_o plot_n to_o murdâ—r_v he_o his_o mother_n his_o brethren_n &_o the_o cheief_a of_o his_o noble_n if_o to_o prevent_v his_o own_o instant_a death_n the_o king_n do_v by_o martial_a law_n without_o juridical_a form_n proceed_v against_o know_a rebel_n iâ—_n this_o such_o a_o thing_n as_o you_o may_v say_v it_o surpass_v all_o perfidious_a stratagem_n and_o immane_a cruelty_n of_o infidel_n what_o idle_a eloquence_n be_v this_o obscure_v &_o outface_v the_o truth_n with_o forgery_n and_o sophistry_n they_o have_v conspire_v against_o kingdom_n and_o state_n they_o have_v surpass_v profess_v infidel_n in_o perfidious_a stratagem_n and_o immane_a cruelty_n and_o whereas_o they_o expel_v we_o by_o excommunication_n and_o chase_v we_o away_o from_o they_o by_o persecution_n yet_o this_o roman_a advocate_n tax_v we_o with_o schism_n &_o apostasy_n never_o remember_v what_o 1._o what_o lib._n 5._o the_o baptism_n c._n 1._o s._n augustine_n long_o since_o deliver_v the_o sacrilege_n of_o schism_n be_v then_o commit_v when_o there_o be_v no_o just_a cause_n of_o separation_n thus_o by_o long_o continue_v fierce_a bitter_a blast_n of_o false_a reproach_n you_o dirive_v your_o unwary_a reader_n upon_o the_o hide_a rock_n of_o a_o falsifyed_a sentence_n of_o s._n aug._n as_o though_o this_o most_o divine_a doctor_n have_v insinuate_v the_o lawfullnes_n of_o revolt_n &_o separation_n from_o all_o christian_a church_n what_o can_v be_v more_o false_a he_o dispute_v against_o the_o donatist_n who_o have_v sever_v themselves_o from_o the_o christian_a world_n pretend_v that_o caecilian_a bishop_n of_o carthage_n &_o other_o catholic_n have_v give_v up_o the_o holy_a bibles_n to_o the_o fire_n s._n aug._n do_v convince_v they_o of_o schism_n two_o way_n first_o because_o this_o pretence_n be_v it_o true_a be_v not_o just_a for_o there_o can_v be_v no_o just_a cause_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o of_o begin_v a_o new_a distinct_a christian_a church_n these_o be_v his_o word_n etc._n word_n augustin_n ep_v 48._o ad_fw-la vincent_n fieri_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la aliqui_fw-la iustam_fw-la causam_fw-la habeant_fw-la qua_fw-la communionem_fw-la svam_fw-la separent_fw-la à _fw-la communione_fw-la orbis_n terrarum_fw-la eamue_fw-la appellent_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la christi_fw-la quòd_fw-la se_fw-la just_a ab_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la communione_fw-la separaverint_fw-la ibid._n nos_fw-la ideo_fw-la certi_fw-la sumus_fw-la neminem_fw-la se_fw-la à _fw-la communione_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la iuâ—â—è_fw-la separare_fw-la potuisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o be_v certain_a that_o none_o can_v just_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o again_o it_o be_v no_o way_n possible_a that_o any_o shall_v have_v reason_n to_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o so_o term_v themselves_o the_o church_n because_o upon_o just_a cause_n they_o have_v divide_v themselves_o from_o the_o society_n of_o all_o nation_n thus_o s._n aug._n what_o can_v be_v more_o direct_a against_o that_o doctrine_n for_o which_o you_o cite_v he_o or_o more_o efficacious_a to_o conclude_v that_o you_o protestant_n be_v guilty_a of_o damnable_a schism_n second_o say_v
scripture_n do_v evident_o preach_v this_o one_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o there_o be_v one_o only_a god_n so_o that_o we_o may_v say_v how_o dull_a sight_v be_v you_o that_o will_v cite_v this_o testimony_n for_o your_o fancy_n against_o the_o plain_a evidence_n thereof_o foul_a calumniation_n &_o falsification_n of_o hosius_n bellarmine_n petrus_n à _fw-fr soto_n and_o bosius_n §._o 3._o in_o this_o kind_n i_o may_v with_o good_a reason_n register_n in_o the_o first_o place_n your_o slanderous_a deal_n with_o cardinal_n hosius_n the_o falsehood_n be_v not_o only_o notorious_a in_o itself_o but_o also_o discover_v against_o your_o ancestor_n in_o form_n time_n pag._n 151._o in_o fine_a and_o 152._o initio_fw-la you_o charge_v catholic_n that_o they_o debase_v the_o sacred_a scripture_n advance_v humane_a tradition_n in_o proof_n whereof_o you_o allege_v these_o word_n as_o of_o cardinal_n hosius_n 50._o hosius_n pag._n 152._o light_v a._n hosius_n the_o express_a verb._n dei_fw-la 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this_o our_o age_n yes_o very_o luther_n first_o rise_v up_o and_o endeavour_v to_o 〈◊〉_d scripture_n unto_o the_o like_n of_o his_o fancy_n against_o he_o rose_n carolstadius_n and_o out_o of_o he_o zwinglius_fw-la oecolampadius_n caluin_n and_o other_o innumerable_a sect_n most_o main_o â—â—posite_a the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o yet_o each_o of_o they_o claim_v manife_a scripture_n on_o their_o side_n hereupon_o the_o heavenly_a prophet_n who_o prince_n be_v swenckfeldius_fw-la etc._n swenckfeldius_fw-la viderunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la caelestes_fw-la propheâ—ae_fw-la quorun_v princeps_fw-la suenckfeldius_fw-la quòd_fw-la isti_fw-la svo_fw-la sensui_fw-la scripturas_fw-la 〈◊〉_d empeâ—aâ—ent_n &_o sic_fw-la secum_fw-la cogitare_fw-la coeperunt_fw-la quo_fw-la usque_fw-la tandâ—_n hanc_fw-la excucullatorum_fw-la tyrannidem_fw-la feremus_fw-la etc._n etc._n perceave_v â—â—ese_n man_n to_o make_v no_o other_o use_n of_o scripture_n then_o to_o persuade_v â—nto_o silly_a people_n what_o they_o 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the_o reach_n of_o my_o knowledge_n how_o martyr_n help_v they_o who_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o help_v and_o again_o intercedunt_fw-la again_o idem_fw-la serm_n 244._o tunc_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la absque_fw-la ulla_fw-la dubitatione_n sancti_fw-la martyr_n intercedunt_fw-la then_o without_o any_o doubt_n the_o holy_a martyr_n intercede_v for_o we_o when_o they_o find_v in_o we_o some_o part_n of_o their_o virtue_n s._n ambrose_n facietis_fw-la ambrose_n ambros._n ser._n 91._o quid_fw-la non_fw-la credunt_fw-la utrum_fw-la quòd_fw-la à _fw-la martyribus_fw-la possunt_fw-la aliqui_fw-la visitari_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la christo_fw-la now_o credere_fw-la ipse_fw-la enim_fw-la dixit_fw-la et_fw-la maiora_fw-la his_fw-la facietis_fw-la not_o to_o believe_v that_o martyr_n may_v visit_v and_o relieve_v man_n live_v in_o this_o world_n be_v not_o to_o believe_v in_o christ_n see_v he_o say_v you_o shall_v do_v yet_o great_a thing_n nectarius_n speak_v unto_o saint_n theodore_n martyr_n tuis_fw-la martyr_n nectar_n orat_fw-la in_o primum_fw-la sabb._n sanctorum_fw-la jeiuniorum_fw-la in_o s._n theodorum_fw-la te_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la vivere_fw-la credimus_fw-la ut_fw-la ergo_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la vivis_fw-la &_o stas_fw-la prope_fw-la eum_fw-la precibus_fw-la tuis_fw-la propitium_fw-la eum_fw-la red_a famulis_fw-la tuis_fw-la we_o believe_v that_o thou_o do_v live_v in_o god_n a_o life_n without_o decay_n or_o end_n therefore_o as_o thou_o do_v live_v in_o christ_n &_o stand_v by_o he_o so_o make_v he_o by_o thy_o prayer_n propitious_a &_o merciful_a unto_o we_o thy_o servant_n what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o say_v that_o as_o certain_o as_o saint_n see_v god_n so_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o they_o pray_v for_o we_o and_o hear_v our_o prayer_n s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n doctrinâ_fw-la nazianzen_n gregory_n nazianzen_n orat_fw-la 26._o in_o patrem_fw-la suum_fw-la apostolium_n ferè_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la nec_fw-la dubito_fw-la quin_fw-la 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the_o apostle_n prefer_v prayer_n that_o do_v edify_v the_o understanding_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o prohibit_v prayer_n of_o mere_a affection_n without_o new_a instruction_n of_o the_o understanding_n but_o say_v that_o in_o such_o prayer_n man_n pray_v with_o their_o spirit_n and_o affection_n though_o not_o with_o their_o understanding_n now_o that_o s._n paul_n do_v command_v that_o service_n shall_v be_v in_o such_o a_o language_n as_o every_o woman_n in_o the_o church_n may_v be_v able_a to_o understand_v it_o word_n by_o word_n lawful_a word_n the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 374._o that_o ignorance_n of_o the_o distinct_a notion_n of_o every_o word_n hinder_v not_o sufficient_a edification_n when_o the_o ordinary_a necessary_a and_o common_a passage_n of_o the_o public_a service_n be_v intelligible_a thus_o he_o now_o i_o subsume_v but_o people_n who_o understand_v not_o latin_a distinct_o may_v by_o instruction_n through_o book_n sermon_n and_o cathechisme_n understand_v the_o 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