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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A41583	Gospel-baptism or, plain proof, that the mode of dipping, plunging or immersion, now commonly used by the people called Anabaptists; is according to the primitive institution in a letter to Mr. Samuel Young. Occasioned by his sharp reflections in contempt of that way, and the defenders thereof in a small book, entituled, A second and last New-Years-Gift, &c. With some notes concering the true subject. By a lover of truth.	Minge, Thomas.	1700 (1700)	Wing G1312A; Wing M2190A; ESTC R221577	28,906	73

ipsum bapti●●ndi verbum mergere significat mergendi ●●um veteri Ecclesiae observatum fuisse constat English thus But whether he that is bapti●●d may be dipt all over or wholly plunged ●●d that thrice or once or whether Water being poured on he be sprinkled only it matters ●●ry little but that ought to be left free to 〈◊〉 Churches according to the diversity of Re●●ns or Countries Although also the Word it self of Bap●●ing signifies to Dip and it is manifest ●●at the Rite of Dipping hath been ob●●ved by the Ancient Church The for●●er Period is Sua fert Opinio his Opinion or Think so and is the Matter in ●●spute The latter his positive Assertion 〈◊〉 the Primitive Mode of Baptism according to our Saviour's Institution Mat. 28. 〈◊〉 Go ye therefore and teach all Nations ●●tizing them c. which ought to take ●●ace with the Exclusion of all other Modes And his true Assertion of the Primitive Practice and Example and I should say Command leaves no room for his Opinion of Indifferency in the Matter Especially we may judge so since we find him upon solid Grounds employing his worthy and in many things unerring Pen in the use of that so much decry'd contemn'd and ridicul'd by your self recounted and so accounted in your Second New-years-Gift Pag. 22. way of arguing used by the Anabaptists See Calvin's Inst cap. 17. fol. 509. of the Lord Supper § 50. Tertio cur de pane simpliciter dixit ut ederent de calice ut omnes biberent Acsi Satanae calliditati ex destinat● occurrere voluisset Imò qua id fiducia hod● usurpant ut plebeculae symbolum Christi Corpor● distribuant si nullum habent Domini vel Man datum vel Exemplum Why did our Lord s● plainly that they should eat of the Bread and th●● they should all drink of the Cup As if it ha● been his Pleasure and Design to meet with and oppose the Subtilty of Satan Yea with what confidence at this day do they usurp th●● thing that they should distribute to the poor people the Sign of Christ's Body if they have neither th● Lord's Precept nor Example Thus far Calvin● And this occasioned by their cutting the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper shorter or taking away what they thought was superfluous in the Institution administring the Sacrament in one kind only to wit the Bread and with-holding the Cup from the People ●rguing that the Bread was the Body of Christ and therefore that the Blood must ●eeds be there by way of Concomitan●y So that receiving one they received ●oth Calven tells them There 's no Pre●ept nor Example for this The Argument was good and of like weight is it against those who add to or diminish from ●e other institution of Baptism either as 〈◊〉 Matter Manner or Subject In your opinion a little Water to sprinkle may ●rve to represent all the things signified by Baptism to wit the word it self Dip●ng which is clearly another thing Washing Death Burial Resurrection ●tting on of Christ overwhelmed with ●flictions a being filled with the Spirit c. ●ll which are plentiful expressions and significations That I may speak after Calvin Our Saviour did as it were of set purpose ob●●ate the subtilty of Satan in the error of ●rinkling instead of Baptism in being ●●mself an example of going down into the River where was plenty of Water therein he was Baptized or Dipt whereby was fully represented all things without diminution But perhaps you may say Quo● sum haec To what end is all this Have w●● not had enough of this already Perhap● you have But since I have gone thus fa● and farther then I thought for at first 〈◊〉 for a Hundred in for a Thousand I a●● minded to run the hazard of the best pa●● of my Stock therefore beg your patience and entreat you to get your bags ready f●● in a little time Deo volente I will pay you all Now it will be convenient to walk ba●● and over-hall part of the Thread already spun to see whether I can mend it L●● me say something among the rest of the Quality of the Subject to be baptized I must to the Catechism for I find 〈◊〉 least that he must be a Catecheumen S●● Berchetus before By Baptism we do 〈◊〉 it were enter into the Church T●● Church of Christ is built up of live● Stones upon the Living Stone and Ro●● Christ 1 Peter 2.4 5. The Life o●● Christian is Faith the just shall live by 〈◊〉 Faith Hab. 2.4 John 17.3 This 〈◊〉 Life Eternal that they might know thee 〈◊〉 only true God and Jesus Christ whom th● hast sent This knowledge of God a● and Christ is by faith only what is not 〈◊〉 Faith is sin All Acts of Religious w●●ship ought to be in Faith which is the ●rue knowledge of God in Christ Baptism ●s a part of Religious Worship therefore 〈◊〉 ought to be performed with Faith by ●he Subject There is Confession with the Mouth Rom. 10.9 If thou shalt confess with by Mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in ●●●e heart that God hath raised him from the ●ead thou shalt be saved Faith which is ●er joyned with repentance and confession qualifies for Baptism and Baptism ●●r a Regular admission to Communion at ●he Lords Table in a True Regular Vi●ble Church It is true also that Believers and Elect Children do first belong to ●he Invisible Catholick Church before ●ea and if they should never be joyned 〈◊〉 a Visible Church But that is not our ●usiness to discourse of our business is ●ith a Visible Church which admits of ●one but such as make an Audible and ●isible Profession of Faith which in Chari●y may be judged Real For man knoweth ●t the heart The next in the Catechism 〈◊〉 For it is Testified to us that God is willing 〈◊〉 place us who otherwise are Strangers with ●●ose of his own house Testified to us Can this be meant to a ●abe or babes that have Eyes and see not ●ars but hear not neither do they understand No it cannot be therefore the proper Subject must be a Believer Young● or Older who otherwise are Strange● that is being without Faith for th● are we Strangers to the Common-wealth of Israel That God is willing to place 〈◊〉 with those of his own House which is 〈◊〉 Church We are to know God's will th●● before our Admission or Orderly Reception into his Visible Church for of the Invisi●● in respect of Election we were Member before In short all the Representations● Baptism that can be reckoned up are no 〈◊〉 presentations to a Babe that hath no Understanding of Things done or said Neither indeed is any thing in a Catechi●● significant but to such who have a com●●tent Understanding and so some ground 〈◊〉 Hope that as they understand Things G●● will work Faith to believe them The●●fore since no Man can find out a reason 〈◊〉 cause in the Creature why a Creature

had Faith supposing the Parents to be dead before the Child is preferred to Baptism Others say or at least it is constructively so if they are born in a Christian Kingdom or Common-wealth they are then ●orn in the Church and as such are Church-members and therefore have right 〈◊〉 Baptism This is absolutely National ●nd confounds the World with the Church ●nd differs little from a Wilderness For 〈◊〉 is not the being born in England tho' 〈◊〉 be a Land of Light that makes a Christian Others affirm there must be a Pro●●ssion of Faith and therefore there must be ●●onsors Others say there is no need of them ●●t prove it an Unscriptural and Anti●●ristian Practice being introduced by a ●●●pe as you may plainly see So that necessa●● Crutch being taken away by which only it is supported by that Party who own a Profession of Faith Baptism of Infants falls to the Ground More might be said to shew what an amaze they are in by leaving the plain Gospel-way Errantium a via multae sunt differentiae Of those that wander out of the way there are many differences Qui a recto tramite divertit quo plus incedit eo plus errat He that turns out of the right way the farther he goeth the more he erreth The Word of God is plain in all things necessary to Salvation It is a Light to th● Feet and a Lanthorn to the Path. The two Institutions are so plain th●● nothing can be plainer if they had no●● been so can we think otherwise but tha● some words to this purpose would have been left You that believe Baptize your Infants This had been enough to have setled th●● Subject to perpetuity But there was n●● need of it God knew how things would be and he is wise and brings Good o●● of Mens Folly and Sin The Word of God●● pure enlightning the Eyes What the Scripture teacheth not we may willing and safely be ignorant of and say with Calvin to that purpose Nos ne in eandem errantium incidanus foveam aures oculos corda mentes ●inguas penitus defigamus in sacra Dei Do●●trina Fst enim ea Spiritus sancti optimi Magistri Schola in qua sic proficitur ut ni●●il sit aliunde asoiscendum ignorandum ve●●ò libenter qui●●●●id in ea non docetur We lest we should fall into the same pit with ●hose who wander out of the way let us fix ●●uy Ears Eyes Hearts Minds Tongues ●holly in the Sacred Doctrine of God For that ●●s the School of the Holy Spirit the best Master ●●n which Men so profit that nothing is to be got ●●r learned elsewhere and whatsoever is not ●aught there we may willingly be ignorant 〈◊〉 The Gospel is a plain Path-way to Heaven the way-faring Man tho' Fool ●hall not err therein He that believeth and is baptized shall be ●aved Go teach all Nations baptizing c. John was baptizing in Enon near Salim ●ecause there was much water there c. The plain Man believes and thinks ●one but Believers ought to be baptized and also that it must be done according to Prescript and Example and that therefore Infants not having Faith are not to b●● baptized or sprinkled especially having no Precept or Example so to do How now saith the Pedobaptist What have this Tittle-tattle-Prittle-pratt● Nonsensical-Plebeian-Taut ological-More Hebetico-Rustico-Mechanico-Fullonico-An●torio-Trituranti-Sutorio-Cerdonico-Plumb● bean-brained People to do Must the● not Ought they not to be diffident 〈◊〉 their own Judgments and refer Matters of Divinity to those whose Province it is A Company of Block-head● they cannot speak Sense Fools no Lat● know and they know no Latin May they not rather trust us who are Gra●●matico-Dialectico-Rhetorico-Historico-Eth●co-Physico-Metaphisico Theologi We we speak truly according to the Propriety of Languages Dispute well Act th●● Orator elegantly Give an Account o● the Transactions of Things past in th●● World Humane and Divine Understan●●● the Precepts of Morality know the Nature of Things and mount above t●● the abstract Notions of things super-natural and for Divinity with that w●●● have the greatest Familiarity And therefore being best acquainted with it know best how to define and determine things of it or aboutit And may with Authority tell you That you Fullers Thrashers a Draper is too fine a name and other base Artizens such as for the most part Anabaptests are Theseare the very words of Vusinus need not trouble your Noddles about Rivers and much Water your concern for that is as superfluous as the Water it is not a farthing matter tush it matters nothing A little Water is of the same Nature with a great Quantity 't was needless and is needless to go into Rivers or into Water A Bason full will serve for half a Score We know how to shorten Work and improve time We stand upon our Ancestors shoulders ond see farther than they Then you talk of Faith as necessary A Fig for Faith and peofession yea Repentance to they are superfluous and redundant things It was enough if the Parent believed it 's on matter for the Child if the Child were Sprinkled it was a good Christian And it is somewhat strange since the way was so easy that when the 3000 were converted the Apostle did not charge them to take heed that all their Infant● that they had or any should have there after should forthwith be Sprinkled for● asmuch as their Parents Faith gave them Right to Baptism That also it migh● never be heard that any Persons Adult ha●● been Baptized whose Parents were Baptized long before But if no Persons but Adult were Baptized we can hear of no other As for Holiness the Children have i● though in respect of Salvation they are never the better for it As for Infants Baptism we tell you though the Gospel be silent in it and La● People cannot find it there we can fet●● it from far rather than the Children sha●● go without it though we cannot make o●● what they are the better for it Wha● we cannot find of the Institution in New we have found in the Old Law And 〈◊〉 Philosophically we prove that round about is the nearest way home Thus with Rombusian Elocution Language-fustian have done Sir Though I as much slight and con●temn the principle of Pedobaptism 〈◊〉 your Self does that of the Anabaptists● vulgarly so call'd though wrongfully yet I must tell you that I have as grea● respect and veneration for the Persons ●nd Piety of the Men of that perswasion ●s I have for those of my own and doubt ●s little of their Integrity The coming ●nto the World and so into the Church ●nd finding it the general opinion and ●ractice of the Learned and others in●●much that it was both a matter of ●ame and danger to oppose what they ●und and to maintain a Doctrine that ●eemed new both pious and impious bent ●●eir wits to aggregate Reasons why they ●ould keep what they had got and the ●rther off the