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A consideration of certaine positions archiepiscopall
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Bradshaw, William, 1571-1618.; Bradshaw, William, 1571-1618. Proposition. Concerning kneeling in the very act of receiving howsoever. aut
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fulfill the law and knew what was sitest to be done did not eate the passover sitting a gesture more answerable to eating in peace than the former vsed in Egeipt Wherby kneeling is convinced as being a-gesture altogether vnanswerable to eating And the rather because it darkeneth the counsell of God and beyng a signe of the greatest Submission obscureth that Reioycing familiaritie Iob. 38.2 1 Cor. 11.25 26. which the L. supper signifieth and sealeth Doe we not condemne the papists for ministring the communion in one kinde because such an administration is against Christ his example and doeth not liuely demonstrate the Lords death Here a caveat is to be given that none take occasion by this discourse to iustifie the childish paedagogy of signifiynge ceremonies devised by man Seeing sitting was vsed by Christ and the signification thereof is found in scripture And therfore that childish paedagogy is not iustified by that worthy servant of Christ M. Cartwright his iudgment viz. That sitting doth signifie our rest in Christ Iesus That kneeling may be more soundly conuinced as a wilworship obiections are to be answered Therfore where it is supposed that Christ and his Apostles ministred receiued sitting but by occasion and not of purpose because they were sitting before in eating the passeover wheras if Christ had sitten down of purpos to administer the coÌ„munion then all that is said is graunted to be some purpose The answer is short yet full Christ did sit of purpose when he ministred his last supper For after the passeover he rose washed his disciples feet and sat downe againe If it be demaunded why the Church is not bound to the time of evening as well as to the gesture of sitting sith Christ obserued the one as well as the other It may be answered Time being a common circumstaunce to every action for nothing can be done Ioh. 13 4.1â— Gen. 2 2 3. but in some time the perticular time is not to be obserued except Christ had sanctified it to the communion as God sainctified the 7. day on which he rested Math 26.31 â—5 Lek 22.53 or at least chosen it of purpose aâ— he did sitting But wheras it was vpon speciall and necessary occasion for the passeover must eaten before the L. supper could be instituted insteed therof and presently after supper the hower came when Christ was to be betrayed therefore if the Iewes transgressed not the institution of the passover by chaunging a gesture at the first prescribed by God according to that their present occasion in another sitter for a tiÌ„e of rest much lesse doe christians transgrese the institution of the L. supper by chaunging the time taken by Christ vpon occasion but not prescribed into some other fitter in discretion for the ordinarie celebration of the L. supper As probably the Primitiue Churches did For every first day of the weeke viz. the L. day the brethren came togither to breake bread Act 2 42. 20.7 1 Cor 16 2. Revel 1.10 id est to minister the communioÌ„ So that either thâ—y never met vpon the L. day but in the evenning or else they celebrated the communion at some other times but for â—y alteration of the gestures of sitting especially into kneeling there is not the least probabilitie It is further obiected That we may kneele in regard of prayers to be vsed by prescription of authority at the deliueryng of the bread and wine viz. The bodie of our Lord Iesus Christ which was giueÌ„ for thee preseru thy bodie and soule into eternall life and take and eate this etc. Heere vnto these answers may be returned Seing we reiect Christ his example of sitting for kneeling we must not stand vpon what we may doe but humbly consider what we must doe For if there be not a necessary and a iustifiable cause both of those prayers and of Kneeling in regard of them doe we not presume vpon Christ his patience in reiecting his example Now what necessitie is there of those prayers at that very time Seeing prayers goe before and follow after Againe must we needs kneele at every bitte of a prayer Is their more necessity to obey a needlesse direction to kneele at those prayers than to follow the example of Christ In sitting when we take eate and drinke â—hings râ—quyred in the same sentences And wâ—â— must the people kneele when they heaâ—â— those prayers rather than the ministâ—â— who pronounceth them But it is a questâ—on Whither those prayers be iustifiable oâ— no. For besides that by reason of them Kneeling devised and abused by Antichrist doth crosse the practise of Chriâ—â— and his Apostles and they may seeme aâ— vayne repitition Even the adding of thâ—â— to the words of institution is contrary tâ— the minde of Christ For he did first blessâ— or pray and after gaue the Elements in a sacramentall forme of words Math. 6 7 26 26. c. â— Mark 14.21 Luk 22.19 etc without any addition saying take eate etc. Which order of administration and forme of words Mathew Marke Luke and Paul doe so constantly precisly and sincerely relate that any may perceiue the meaning of the spirit to be That the sacramentall forme of words ought precisely to be obserued without any addition And the rather because Paul beginneth his relation thus â—aue receiued of the Lord 1 Cor. 11 23 â—4 that which I â—aue also deliuered etc. So that it may â—â—me to be against religion and reason â—â—at to a sacramentall forme of speach â—herin the minister should only supply the â—â—rson of Christ there should be added a â—rayer as in the name of the Church This â—â—fusion is fitter for Babilon than for â—â—on Lastly Why is not a short prayer afâ—r other going before aswell ioyned to the â—â—cramentall forme of Baptisme viz. N. â—aptise thee In the name of the Father etc. 〈◊〉 then this addition of prayer to the saâ—rameÌ„tall forme of words be not of faith Rom 14.5 23 â—ow can we with faith and a good consciâ—â—ce confirme or allow the same with our â—neeling Lastly for iustifiyng of Kneeling it is â—ffirmed That it is indifferent whither â—e sitt stand or knâ—â—lâ— Seeing Christ did sit when he did eate the passâ—â—â—r Wherâ—as God commaunded the châ—â—dren of Israel â—n Egipt to eate the passover standing and some reformed churches receiue standing for all that Christ did sit at his last supper Therfore the King may appoynt Kneeling as the most reverend gesture and best beseeming so holy an action For answer whervnto howsoever that which is alreadie said may suffice Yet it may be further coâ—sidered That though it be admitted that it is indifferent to sit or to stand yet it doth not follow that Kneeling is indifferent For sitting is the example and standing is a gesture sometimes vsed in ordinary eating and in the obiection it is said to be prescribed at a sacramentall feast Againe It doth not follow That because Christ vsed a gesture fitter for eating in his