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A68023 A briefe examination for the tyme, of a certaine declaration, lately put in print in the name and defence of certaine ministers in London, refusyng to weare the apparell prescribed by the lawes and orders of the realme In the ende is reported, the iudgement of two notable learned fathers, M. doctour Bucer, and M. doctour Martir ... translated out of the originals, written by theyr owne handes, purposely debatyng this controuersie. Parker, Matthew, 1504-1575.; Bucer, Martin, 1491-1551.; Vermigli, Pietro Martire, 1499-1562.; Hooper, John, d. 1555. 1566 (1566) STC 10387; ESTC S101661 56,521 86

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¶ A briefe examination for the tyme of a certaine declaration lately put in print in the name and defence of certaine Ministers in London refusyng to weare the apparell prescribed by the lawes and orders of the Realme In the ende is reported the iudgement of two notable learned fathers M. doctour Bucer and M. doctour Martir sometyme in eyther vniuersities here of England the kynges readers and professours of diuinitie translated out of the originals written by theyr owne handes purposely debatyng this controuersie Paul Rom. 14 I besech you brethren marke them which cause diuision and geue occasions of euyll contrary to the doctrine which ye haue learned and auoyde them for they that are such serue not the Lorde Iesus Christ but their owne bellyes and with sweete and flatteryng wordes deceyue the hartes of the Innocentes ¶ The counsell of S. Austen vnto Januarie Epistola 118. SVche thynges as haue diuersitie of obseruations by reason of the diuersitie of Landes and Countreys as of fastyng on the Sabboth daye or at other days Of communicating euery day Sunday or Saterday or otherwyse all these thynges haue freedome in obseruation And certes there is no maner discipline or vsage in these thynges more agreable vnto a graue and prudent christian man then that he attemper hym selfe to the orders of that Church whereto he shall chaunce to resort For by S. Ambrose counsell a man ought to obserue that maner whiche he seeth that Churche to vse whereto he chaunceably commeth yf he wyll not be slaunderous to any man or any man be slaunderous vnto hym As for me saith S. Austen when I diligentlye bethought my selfe of this sentence I haue alway had it in such veneration as yf I had receyued it as an oracle heauenly sent from God For I haue perceyued euen to my great sorow and heauynes much disquietyng of the weake to be caused by the contentious stubbernes and superstitious feare of certayne brethren which rayse vp so braulyng questions that they thynke nothing to be well done but what they do them selues and that in such matters which can come to no certayne ende neither by the aucthoritie of holy Scripture nor by the tradition of the vniuersall Church nor tende to any commoditie of the reformation of lyfe Yet is this disturbaunce made because some one hath deuised within hym selfe some maner of reason whatsoeuer it be eyther for that he hymselfe in his owne countrey accustomed so to do or els sawe other do in some such place where he hath trauelled The whiche the farther it was from his owne countrey so muche the better learned he thought that place to be ¶ To the Christian reader IF for any occasion the counsayle of Salomon contrarious to it self at the first sight maye haue place to be alleaged out of the. xxvi Chapter of his Prouerbes that is Ne respondeas stulto iuxta stultitiam suam ne efficiaris ei similis And againe Responde stulto iuxta stultitiam suā ne sibi sapiens esse videatur Aunswere not a foole accordyng to his foolyshnes lest thou be made lyke to hym And agayne Aunswer a foole accordyng to his foolyshnes lest he may sceme to himself to be wise It may now of good congruence be verified in the cause vttered in question for order of ministers apparell It is not vnknowen what argumentes and conclusions what letters and wrytynges haue ben vsed and tossed from man to man in secrete sort for these two or three yeres to disproue the libertie of the chyldren of God in the vse of externe thynges to conuel the obedience that true Subiectes shoulde perfourme to the aurthoritie of theyr Prince to the lawes of the Realme establyshed to the discredityng and condemnation of such which in a whole conscience thynke it lawefull for them to weare and yet charitably bearyng with the weaknes of such whose consciences are entangled with fearefull scrupulositie towarde the same The small weyght of theyr reasons and argumentes so set out theyr cause so harde to defende with learnyng so many graue wryters of iudgement agaynste them the matter fullye debated by the best learned men of the Realme of late with thorder of the counsayle taken in the tyme of blessed memorie Kyng Edwarde and fully concluded caused diuers men beyng yet offended with suche vnaduised wrytynges to holde theyr pennes without more confutyng or disprouyng the same as was easye for them to do partly stayed by the fyrst part of Salomons counsayle Ne respondeas stulto iuxa stultitiam suam ne efficiaris ei similis Yea moreouer charitie borne to the aucthours of such wrytynges moued some men to kepe pacience and the counsayle of S. Paule helde others in scilence whereas he chargeth his scoler Timothy thus Stultas et ineruditas questiones respue sciens eas parere pugnas porro seruū domini nō oportet pugnare sed placidū esse erga omnes propensum ad docendum tolerantem malos cum mansuetudine erudientē eos qui obsistunt si quando det illis deus paenitentiam ad agnoscendum veritatem et resipiscant a diaboli laqueo capti ab eo ad ipsius voluntatem Foolyshe and vnlearned questions put from thee remembryng that they do but gender stryfe for the sernaunt of the Lorde must not stryue but must be peaceable vnto all men and apt to teache and one that can suffer the enyll in mekenes and can infourme them that resyst yt that God at any tyme wyll geue them re pentaunce for to knowe the trueth that they may come to themselues agayne out of the snare of the deuyll which are nowe taken of hym at his wyll To enforce this text at this tyme in the particuler appliyng therof shalbe spared yet for hope of their amendement who haue disorderlye behaued them selues To eragerat the matter agaynste them with muche alleagyng learned mens iudgementes many dead some yet alyue otherwyse then to instruct them by a few reported shall also be spared as it would haue ben wyshed the matter wholly myght rather with scilence haue ben styll buryed But now the prouocation of a treatise so solemlye aduouched so confidentlye affirmed of very late so publiquely by prynt diuulged and dispearsed hath made this wryter nowe to thynke it hygh tyme to call to remembraunce the latter part of Salomons scntence Responde stulto iuxta stultitiam suam ne videatur sibi sapiens Not yet professyng by this examination to say halfe so much as myght be spoken in the comprehension of the cause nor takyng so much aduauntage agaynst that inconfiderat wrytyng as it myght deserue to be charged but briefely to put to the aucthours consideration the weaknes of the reasons the sophisticatiō of the arguments of that discourse vnworthy of it selfe to saye the trueth to be once aunswered as beyng so written as euery man but such as be eyther to parcially bent to the cause or for lacke of learnyng can not expende the substaunce of the wrytyng maye