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A12484 Of the author and substance of the protestant church and religion two bookes. Written first in Latin by R.S. Doctour of Diuinity, and now reuiewed by the author, and translated into English by VV. Bas.; De auctore et essentia Protestanticae Ecclesiae et religionis libri duo. English Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.; Bas., W. 1621 (1621) STC 22812; ESTC S117611 239,031 514

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8._o say_v that_o we_o affirm_v he_o to_o be_v no_o christian_n who_o do_v not_o undoubted_o agree_v to_o all_o point_n of_o doctrine_n as_o well_o affirmative_a as_o negative_a and_o the_o same_o say_v d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 8._o pag._n 519._o d._n morton_n part_n 1._o apol._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 9_o and_o d._n willet_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o his_o synopsis_n yea_o as_o before_o we_o rehearse_v 2._o cap_n 2._o they_o confess_v that_o before_o luther_n revolt_n all_o from_o head_n to_o foot_n be_v drown_v in_o the_o puddle_n of_o popery_n that_o none_o dream_v of_o that_o which_o be_v the_o chief_a point_n of_o protestancy_n wherefore_o schusselburg_n tom_n 8._o catal._n haeret._n pag._n 440._o seem_v to_o say_v that_o before_o luther_n arise_v popery_n be_v the_o true_a church_n like_a as_o the_o synagogue_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v before_o the_o come_n
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that_o their_o church_n in_o former_a time_n be_v in_o popery_n be_v ground_v upon_o that_o saying_n apocal._n 18_o go_v out_o of_o she_o babylon_n my_o people_n therefore_o god_n people_n be_v in_o babylon_n that_o be_v say_v the●_n in_o popery_n thus_o argue_v luther_n in_o cap._n 12._o genes_n tom_fw-mi 6._o fol._n 144._o and_o in_o cap._n 19_o fol._n 234._o the_o magdeburgian_o in_o praefat._n centur._n 8._o plessy_a lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 10._o and_o other_o common_o yea_o m._n perkins_n in_o his_o reform_a catholic_a tract_n 22._o write_v that_o by_o this_o commandment_n it_o may_v be_v gather_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o be_v long_a time_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n wherein_o he_o speak_v more_o true_o than_o he_o mean_v for_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o be_v always_o in_o the_o roman_a but_o the_o protestant_n neither_o be_v nor_o be_v there_o to_o the_o argument_n i_o answer_v that_o this_o place_n can_v be_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o faith_n 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augustine_n who_o lib._n quest_n euang._n pag._n 28._o tom_n 4._o say_v it_o use_v to_o be_v inquire_v wherein_o schismatickes_n differ_v from_o heret●kes_n doctrine_n that_o schismatic_n hold_v true_a doctrine_n and_o this_o find_v that_o no_o difference_n in_o faytht_fw-mi but_o breach_n of_o society_n in_o communion_n make_v schismatic_n and_o lib._n de_fw-la fide_fw-la &_o symbolo_fw-la cap._n 10_o heretic_n by_o believe_a wrong_n of_o god_n violate_v the_o faith_n but_o schismatickes_n by_o wicked_a division_n leap_v from_o fraternal_a charity_n albeit_o they_o believe_v aright_o those_o thing_n which_o we_o believe_v and_o lib._n cont_n gaud._n cap._n 9_o refute_v he_o because_o he_o have_v say_v that_o schismatic_n and_o heretic_n be_v the_o same_o against_o which_o he_o say_v thou_o be_v a_o schismatic_n by_o sacrilegious_a division_n and_o a_o heretic_n by_o sacrilegious_a opinion_n and_o lib._n 1._o cont_n cresc_n cap._n 29._o and_o the_o gest_n be_v cum_fw-la emerito_fw-la affirm_v that_o the_o same_o faith_n be_v have_v out_o of_o the_o church_n s._n hierome_n in_o tit._n 3._o we_o judge_v this_o difference_n to_o be_v between_o heresy_n and_o schism_n that_o heresy_n hold_v a_o naughty_a opinion_n schism_n separate_v from_o the_o church_n by_o dissension_n of_o bishop_n s._n gregory_n lib._n 18._o moral_a cap._n 14._o some_o do_v believe_v false_a thing_n of_o god_n other_o by_o god_n help_n believe_v right_o of_o god_n but_o keep_v not_o unity_n with_o their_o brethren_n these_o be_v divide_v by_o schism_n s._n isidor_n lib._n 8._o origin_n cap_n 3._o schism_n take_v its_o name_n of_o breach_n for_o it_o believe_v the_o same_o religion_n and_o rite_n that_o other_o do_v only_o be_v please_v to_o keep_v company_n a_o part_n the_o same_o teach_v s._n ireneus_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 62._o s._n chrysost_o hom_n 3._o in_o 1._o cor._n s._n optat._n lib._n 1._o 4._o &_o 5._o cont_n parmen_fw-la and_o other_o and_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o reason_n for_o if_o schismatic_n do_v err_v also_o in_o faith_n they_o shall_v not_o differ_v from_o heretic_n and_o it_o be_v grant_v both_o of_o old_a and_o new_a heretic_n for_o thus_o say_v faustus_n in_o s._n augustine_n lib._n 20._o cont_n faustum_n cap._n 3._o schism_n if_o i_o be_v not_o deceive_v be_v to_o believe_v the_o same_o &_o to_o worship_n god_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o other_o do_v only_o to_o be_v delight_v with_o division_n of_o assembly_n caluin_n 4._o institut_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 5._o austin_n put_v this_o difference_n betwixt_o heretic_n and_o schismatik_n that_o they_o corrupt_v the_o sincerity_n of_o the_o faith_n with_o false_a doctrine_n these_o sometime_o even_o have_v the_o like_a say_v break_v asunder_o the_o band_n of_o society_n and_o in_o 1._o cor._n cap._n 11._o vers_fw-la 19_o it_o be_v know_v in_o what_o sense_n the_o ancient_a use_v both_o these_o nams_n schism_n heresy_n they_o put_v heresy_n in_o difference_n of_o doctrine_n but_o schism_n rather_o in_o alienation_n of_o mind_n to_o wit_n when_o any_o either_o upon_o envy_n or_o hatred_n of_o the_o pastor_n or_o of_o frowardness_n depart_v from_o the_o church_n beza_n libro_fw-la de_fw-la puniendis_fw-la haereticis_fw-la pag._n 89_o shism_n proper_o be_v the_o division_n of_o those_o who_o believe_v the_o same_o thing_n and_o pag._n 150._o let_v they_o remember_v that_o we_o term_v they_o not_o heretic_n who_o be_v proper_o call_v schismatic_n the_o same_o he_o have_v in_o 1._o cor._n 1._o v._n 10._o and_o other_o where_o plessie_a lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 1._o pag._n 16_o we_o call_v erroneous_a church_n either_o heretic_n or_o schismatics_n according_o as_o they_o err_v either_o in_o faith_n or_o in_o charity_n and_o pag._n 32._o what_o pertain_v to_o schismatical_a church_n either_o they_o be_v simple_o schismatical_a or_o when_o heresy_n also_o be_v adjoin_v as_o it_o use_v after_o schism_n as_o a_o ague_n after_o a_o wound_n and_o cap._n 10._o pag._n 340._o true_a and_o pure_a schismatik_n be_v those_o who_o hold_v the_o same_o doctrine_n yet_o make_v meeting_n a_o part_n peter_n martyr_n in_o locis_fw-la tit_n de_fw-fr schism_n pag._n 618._o i_o think_v it_o more_o plain_a to_o define_v schism_n to_o be_v a_o cut_v a_o sunder_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a peace_n &_o unity_n and_o pag._n 619_o there_o may_v be_v schism_n in_o the_o church_n without_o heresy_n aretius_n also_o in_o locis_fw-la part_n 2._o fol._n 10_o schism_n sometime_o in_o the_o same_o doctrine_n break_v society_n bucan_n in_o loc_n quest_n 33._o de_fw-fr eccl._n affirm_v that_o shismatik_n differ_v from_o heretic_n because_o heresy_n proper_o be_v dissension_n in_o doctrine_n pol●n_n part_n 2._o thes_n de_fw-fr notis_fw-la eccl._n albeit_o schismatical_a church_n agree_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o truth_n etc._n etc._n zanchius_n tract_n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n there_o may_v be_v breach_n in_o the_o symbol_n of_o charity_n that_o be_v in_o
participation_n of_o sacrament_n communication_n of_o public_a prayer_n and_o such_o like_a other_o ecclesiastical_a exercise_n to_o wit_n when_o one_o thought_n he_o agree_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o principal_a head_n of_o christian_a faith_n yet_o i_o know_v not_o for_o what_o light_a cause_n withdraw_v himself_o from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n and_o communicate_v not_o with_o she_o in_o the_o sacrament_n such_o say_v he_o be_v proper_o call_v schismatics_n m._n perkins_n in_o cap._n 5._o galat._n vers_fw-la 21._o heresy_n be_v in_o doctrine_n schism_n in_o manner_n order_n and_o government_n d._n fulke_o de_fw-fr success_n pag._n 165_o there_o may_v be_v schism_n in_o the_o church_n where_o the_o same_o doctrine_n be_v hold_v on_o both_o party_n &_o the_o one_o want_v lawful_a succession_n d._n field_n lib._n 1._o of_o the_o church_n cap._n 7_o some_o profess_v the_o whole_a save_a faith_n but_o not_o in_o unity_n as_o schismatic_o dancus_fw-la in_o august_n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la cap._n 3._o he_o be_v a_o schismatic_n who_o retain_v the_o same_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o entire_a yet_o without_o probable_a and_o better_a reason_n follow_v not_o the_o decent_a rite_n of_o the_o church_n the_o same_o he_o have_v apol._n pro_fw-la heluet._n eccles_n pag._n 1485._o bullinger_n tom_n 1._o decad._n 5._o serm_n 2._o vorstius_n in_o antibellarm_n pag._n 190._o d._n whitaker_n count_v 2._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 10._o d._n rainolds_n praelect_a 1._o col_fw-fr 2._o heshusius_fw-la in_o 1._o cor._n 1._o and_o other_o 5._o now_o that_o proper_a schismatic_n to_o wit_n such_o as_o wilful_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o member_n or_o part_n of_o the_o church_n be_v clear_a by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n church_n that_o schismatic_n be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n the_o confession_n of_o protestant_n and_o manifest_a reason_n s._n augustin_n lib._n de_fw-la fide_fw-la &_o symbolo_fw-la cap._n 10._o say_v neither_o do_v a_o heretic_n belong_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n nor_o a_o schismatic_n tract_n 3._o in_o 1._o joan._n all_o heretic_n all_o schismatics_n be_v go_v out_o of_o the_o church_n lib._n 3._o the_o baptism_n cap._n 19_o all_o heretic_n and_o schismatics_n be_v false_a christian_n and_o lib_n 2._o cont_n crescon_n cap._n 29_o i_o think_v not_o that_o any_o so_o dote_v to_o believe_v he_o to_o belong_v to_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n who_o have_v not_o charity_n the_o like_a he_o have_v in_o many_o place_n s._n ambrose_n lib._n 7._o in_o luc._n cap._n 11._o understand_v that_o all_o heretic_n and_o schismatics_n be_v separate_v from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n and_o from_o the_o church_n s._n optatus_n lib._n 2._o the_o church_n can_v be_v with_o any_o heretic_n or_o schismatics_n s._n fulgentius_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la ad_fw-la petrum_fw-la cap._n 38_o believe_v most_o steadfast_o and_o doubt_v nothing_o that_o not_o only_o all_o pagan_n but_o also_o all_o jew_n heretic_n &_o schismatik_n which_o end_n this_o life_n out_o of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o go_v into_o everlasting_a fire_n the_o same_o teach_v s._n hierome_n &_o s._n chrysostome_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la s._n ignatius_n epist_n ad_fw-la smyrnens_fw-la s._n iren._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 62._o s._n cyprian_n lib._n de_fw-la unit_fw-la &_o epist_n 42.51.55_o s._n prosper_v de_fw-fr vocat_fw-la gentium_fw-la cap._n 4._o and_o the_o rest_n the_o protestant_n confession_n of_o this_o matter_n we_o relate_v heretofore_o among_o who_o say_v ●_o lib._n 1._o c._n ●_o num_fw-la ●_o that_o this_o be_v a_o undoubted_a truth_n reason_n also_o convince_v the_o same_o for_o as_o caluin_n confess_v 4._o institut_fw-la loc_fw-la cit_fw-la the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n be_v hold_v with_o two_o band_n to_o wit_n consent_n of_o doctrine_n and_o fraternal_a charity_n but_o schismatic_n break_v the_o band_n of_o fraternal_a charity_n therefore_o they_o be_v not_o within_o the_o church_n again_o danaeus_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccl._n c._n 5._o say_v this_o be_v the_o mark_n that_o thou_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o outward_o thou_o profess_v the_o faith_n &_o communicate_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o same_o sacrament_n but_o schismatics_n do_v not_o communicate_v in_o sacrament_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n and_o d._n feild_n lib._n 2._o of_o the_o church_n cap._n 2._o say_v communion_n in_o sacrament_n under_o lawful_a pastor_n be_v a_o essential_a note_n of_o the_o true_a catholic_a church_n but_o shismatik_n want_v this_o communion_n and_o casaubon_n epist_n ad_fw-la card._n peron_n pag._n 9_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n be_v unite_v in_o the_o unity_n of_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n and_o conjunction_n of_o mind_n and_o in_o true_a charity_n and_o office_n of_o charity_n especial_o of_o mutual_a prayer_n but_o schismatic_n be_v not_o unite_v in_o charity_n and_o office_n of_o mutual_a prayer_n final_o only_a catholic_n be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n as_o be_v evident_a and_o 3._o and_o whi._n conc_fw-fr 2._o q._n 5._o cap._n 3._o protestant_n confess_v but_o schismatic_n be_v not_o catholik_o as_o the_o very_a name_n do_v declare_v the_o father_n doc_fw-fr teach_v and_o 7._o and_o gesner_n loc_fw-la 24._o field_n l._n de_fw-fr eccles_n c._n 7._o protestant_n acknowledge_v 6._o by_o this_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o foresay_a mayor_n which_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o protestant_n in_o this_o matter_n be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o also_o so_o manifest_o false_a as_o out_o of_o this_o question_n it_o be_v common_o deny_v of_o protestant_n themselves_o beside_o it_o be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o also_o so_o improbable_a that_o neither_o it_o be_v prove_v of_o protestant_n nor_o can_v be_v any_o other_o way_n then_o by_o proof_n of_o fool_n or_o wilful_a man_n that_o be_v by_o their_o own_o say_n for_o d._n whitaker_n as_o we_o have_v see_v prove_v it_o no_o other_o way_n then_o by_o say_v it_o be_v out_o of_o controversy_n d._n fulke_o that_o it_o be_v manifest_a but_o luther_n more_o boast_o say_v l._n the_o missa_fw-la priu_fw-la tom_fw-mi 7._o f._n 247._o this_o be_v our_o solid_a foundation_n and_o most_o steadfast_a rock_n whersoever_o true_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v there_o be_v necessary_o the_o true_a holy_a church_n of_o god_n and_o who_o doubt_v of_o this_o say_v he_o may_v in_o like_a manner_n doubt_n whether_o the_o gospel_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n a_o notable_a proof_n sure_o and_o fit_a for_o pythagoras_n school_n and_o a_o sound_a foundation_n on_o which_o to_o feign_a a_o church_n shall_v rely_v and_o a_o fit_a rock_n for_o they_o to_o build_v upon_o who_o have_v leave_v the_o rock_n upon_o which_o christ_n build_v his_o church_n wherefore_o that_o i_o may_v imitate_v s._n augustine_n in_o the_o like_a matter_n 33._o lib._n 1._o count_v gaudent_fw-la cap._n 33._o i_o ask_v whether_o god_n or_o man_n have_v tell_v they_o that_o wheresoever_o true_a doctrine_n be_v there_o be_v the_o true_a church_n if_o god_n let_v they_o read_v it_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n where_o indeed_o we_o read_v that_o where_o the_o true_a church_n be_v there_o true_a doctrine_n be_v but_o contrariwise_o that_o where_o true_a doctrine_n be_v there_o the_o true_a church_n be_v there_o we_o never_o read_v if_o man_n have_v tell_v you_o this_o behold_v a_o fiction_n of_o man_n behold_v what_o you_o believe_v behold_v what_o you_o serve_v behold_v for_o what_o you_o rebel_v you_o run_v mad_a you_o burn_v again_o what_o kind_n of_o man_n be_v they_o sure_o no_v other_o than_o yourselves_o and_o what_o be_v your_o authority_n i_o say_v not_o with_o we_o but_o even_o with_o yourselves_o be_v as_o one_o of_o your_o part_n say_v the_o judgement_n of_o lutheran_n or_o sacramentarye_n the_o square_a of_o truth_n moreover_o 13._o pareus_n l_o 3_o ce_fw-fr ●●stifie_v cap._n 13._o 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the_o eucharist_n against_o the_o most_o express_a word_n of_o scripture_n will_v endeavour_n to_o prove_v by_o sense_n that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n when_o as_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v not_o sensible_a and_o here_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o existence_n of_o their_o church_n before_o luther_n out_o of_o some_o apparent_a show_n of_o scripture_n against_o the_o most_o manifest_a sense_n of_o all_o man_n will_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v before_o luther_n time_n when_o as_o a_o church_n be_v a_o sensible_a thing_n and_o can_v be_v feel_v either_o of_o other_o or_o at_o least_o of_o they_o who_o be_v of_o it_o how_o much_o better_a and_o more_o reasonable_o shall_v they_o proceed_v if_o in_o the_o eucharist_n where_o christ_n body_n be_v not_o sensible_a they_o will_v rather_o give_v ear_n to_o the_o most_o express_a word_n of_o scripture_n then_o to_o the_o suspicion_n of_o their_o sense_n which_o can_v judge_v of_o nothing_o but_o of_o sensible_a 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out_o of_o all_o which_o have_v be_v say_v in_o this_o chapter_n i_o thus_o frame_v my_o ten_o and_o last_o demonstration_n if_o no_o sufficient_a testimony_n nor_o any_o probable_a argument_n but_o only_o one_o fond_a sophism_n can_v be_v bring_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v before_o luther_n this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v of_o any_o wise_a and_o prudent_a man_n but_o no_o other_o proof_n can_v be_v bring_v therefore_o etc._n etc._n and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o before_o luther_n sure_o he_o be_v the_o author_n of_o it_o the_o mayor_n be_v evident_a by_o itself_o and_o the_o minor_a by_o what_o have_v be_v bring_v in_o this_o chapter_n certain_o if_o every_o one_o of_o the_o demonstration_n which_o we_o have_v bring_v do_v not_o convince_v that_o the_o protestant_a church_n and_o religion_n be_v not_o before_o luther_n at_o least_o all_o of_o they_o together_o manifest_o convince_v it_o for_o by_o the_o first_o five_o demonstration_n be_v show_v that_o 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their_o church_n and_o religion_n by_o the_o only_a confession_n of_o luther_n and_o other_o protestant_n it_o be_v reason_n that_o if_o any_o one_o of_o they_o go_v about_o to_o answer_n my_o foresay_a demonstration_n he_o hold_v observe_v these_o most_o just_a law_n which_o i_o will_v here_o set_v down_o and_o which_o themselves_o have_v prescribe_v to_o other_o 2._o 643._o see_v jewel_n defence_n apol_n par_fw-fr 2._o c._n d._n 5._o kemnice_n exam._n tit_n de_fw-fr script_n epist_n monit_fw-la p._n 145._o calu._n count_v seruet_fw-la p._n 643._o first_o therefore_o touch_v the_o word_n of_o protestant_n which_o i_o have_v allege_v let_v he_o either_o confess_v that_o they_o be_v true_o cite_v by_o i_o or_o if_o he_o deny_v that_o let_v he_o not_o say_v it_o only_o but_o let_v he_o show_v that_o they_o be_v suppose_v falsify_v or_o so_o change_v as_o that_o the_o sense_n which_o i_o
liar_n they_o gainesayd_a themselves_o may_v a_o man_n accuse_v of_o crime_n expound_v figurative_o his_o open_a confession_n of_o that_o crime_n because_o at_o other_o time_n he_o deny_v it_o again_o protestant_n themselves_n reject_v this_o kind_n of_o proof_n for_o as_o we_o do_v see_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o prince_n electour_n do_v reprehend_v those_o of_o the_o duke_n of_o saxony_n because_o they_o avoid_v luther_n testimony_n by_o oppose_v other_o place_n of_o he_o and_o the_o minister_n of_o saxony_n pag._n 303._o say_v it_o be_v a_o frivolous_a kind_n of_o argument_n he_o say_v well_o sometime_o therefore_o here_o beside_o it_o will_v be_v as_o equal_v for_o i_o to_o infer_v that_o protestant_n in_o those_o testimony_n which_o he_o produce_v do_v speak_v figurative_o because_o in_o those_o which_o i_o allege_v they_o manifest_o say_v the_o contrary_n for_o to_o use_v luther_n word_n 220._o tom._n 2._o fol._n 220._o by_o this_o rashness_n and_o licence_n you_o give_v your_o adversary_n leave_v to_o turn_v it_o against_o you_o certain_o if_o they_o clear_o have_v say_v both_o we_o can_v deny_v but_o they_o think_v both_o or_o you_o must_v confess_v that_o your_o pleasure_n shall_v be_v the_o rule_n and_o square_a to_o know_v what_o they_o speak_v proper_o &_o what_o figurative_o moreover_o protestant_n cry_v that_o the_o holy_a father_n contradict_v themselves_o how_o often_o say_v luther_n do_v the_o father_n fight_n with_o themselves_o institut_fw-la tom._n 2._o assert_v art_n 2._o &_o count_v cochleum_n praefat._n institut_fw-la they_o be_v man_n that_o fight_v against_o themselves_o we_o find_v the_o father_n to_o have_v teach_v contraries_n to_o have_v slumber_v and_o caluin_n the_o father_n do_v often_o skirmish_v among_o themselves_o and_o sometime_o fight_v with_o themselves_o the_o like_a say_v melancthon_n come_v 1._o lutheri_fw-la fol._n 341._o jacobus_n andreae_n cont_n hosium_n pag._n 282._o beza_n praefat._n in_o nowm_fw-la testamentum_fw-la and_o in_o schusselburg_n lib._n 4._o theol._n caluin_n art_n 32_o pareus_n lib._n 2_o de_fw-fr grat._n &_o lib._n arbit_n cap._n 14._o &_o lib._n 4._o cap._n 4._o polanus_fw-la part_n 1._o thes_n de_fw-fr notis_n eccles_n apologia_fw-la anglica_n and_o d._n whitaker_n lib._n 5._o cont_n dureum_fw-la wherefore_o either_o they_o must_v show_v some_o privilege_n whereby_o protestant_n be_v more_o except_v from_o contradict_v themselves_o than_o the_o holy_a father_n in_o their_o opinion_n be_v or_o they_o must_v not_o infer_v that_o they_o say_v not_o that_o which_o they_o do_v in_o place_n by_o i_o allege_v because_o other_o where_o they_o say_v the_o contrary_n furthermore_o 460._o hosp_n to_o 2._o foe_n 12._o beza_n in_o conspicil_n zue_v to_o 2._o fol._n 412._o 458._o 460._o because_o both_o the_o father_n and_o protestant_n also_o as_o i_o show_v in_o the_o preface_n do_v teach_v that_o heretic_n be_v wont_a to_o contradict_v themselves_o and_o the_o sacramentary_n both_o say_v and_o show_v by_o many_o example_n that_o luther_n oftentimes_o have_v gainsayd_v himself_o and_o of_o sacramentary_n schusselburg_n lib._n 1._o theol._n caluin_n art_n 20._o write_v that_o it_o be_v their_o property_n to_o contradict_v themselves_o 7._o last_o touch_v the_o weight_n of_o the_o protestant_a confession_n which_o we_o produce_v let_v he_o not_o think_v that_o it_o be_v any_o way_n impair_v in_o that_o they_o have_v at_o other_o time_n say_v the_o contrary_a as_o if_o in_o this_o matter_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v because_o they_o have_v be_v take_v in_o two_o tale_n for_o the_o confession_n of_o those_o that_o be_v accuse_v be_v of_o great_a force_n against_o themselves_o because_o as_o i_o say_v no_o man_n willing_o lie_v against_o himself_o neither_o can_v these_o be_v discredit_v by_o any_o word_n of_o they_o speak_v in_o their_o own_o behalf_n for_o what_o will_v it_o avayle_v a_o criminal_a person_n if_o he_o deny_v a_o hundred_o time_n the_o crime_n which_o he_o once_o open_o confess_v and_o protestant_n have_v not_o once_o but_o oftentym_n most_o plain_o most_o open_o most_o free_o confess_v those_o thing_n which_o i_o allege_v again_o though_o no_o credit_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o a_o liar_n who_o gainsayth_v himself_o in_o matter_n for_o his_o own_o behalf_n or_o against_o any_o other_o nevertheless_o in_o a_o matter_n against_o himself_o the_o great_a yea_o even_o the_o devil_n open_a &_o free_a confession_n aught_o more_o to_o be_v credit_v then_o any_o other_o man_n testimony_n whatsoever_o wherefore_o we_o allege_v protestant_n say_n not_o as_o testimony_n but_o as_o confession_n neither_o produce_v they_o as_o witness_n but_o as_o criminel_n confess_v the_o truth_n against_o themselves_o and_o as_o saint_n ambrose_n say_v ●●uctis_fw-la serm._n 5._o de_fw-fr ●●uctis_fw-la i_o admit_v not_o the_o devil_n testimony_n but_o his_o confession_n so_o i_o accept_v not_o the_o protestant_n testimony_n but_o their_o confession_n let_v their_o testimony_n be_v of_o no_o credit_n either_o for_o themselves_o or_o for_o other_o or_o against_o other_o undoubted_o it_o be_v of_o great_a force_n against_o themselves_o as_o the_o latin_a orator_n say_v thy_o testimony_n which_o in_o another_o man_n matter_n will_v be_v light_n be_v in_o thy_o own_o matter_n because_o it_o be_v against_o thg_a self_n most_o weighty_a beside_o protestant_n cric_n that_o it_o be_v find_v to_o produce_v the_o criminel_n as_o witness_n in_o their_o own_o cause_n and_o that_o any_o witness_n in_o his_o own_o cause_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v 2._o vorstius_n antibel_n pag._n 44●_n 456._o ju●●_n def._n part_n 2._o c._n 3._o d._n 5._o whitak_n count_v 4._o q._n 6._o c._n 2._o &_o q._n 4._o c._n 2._o whereupon_o in_o the_o question_n of_o supremacy_n they_o refuse_v the_o testimony_n of_o all_o pope_n though_o never_o so_o ancient_a never_o so_o learned_a never_o so_o holy_a how_o much_o better_a may_v we_o reject_v the_o testimony_n of_o protestant_n when_o they_o speak_v in_o behalf_n of_o their_o religion_n and_o yet_o admit_v their_o confession_n when_o they_o speak_v against_o it_o these_o therefore_o law_n of_o answer_v so_o just_a so_o equal_a and_o approve_v of_o the_o protestant_n themselves_o if_o he_o will_v not_o keep_v who_o go_v about_o to_o answer_n my_o foresay_a argument_n it_o will_v easy_o appear_v that_o in_o very_a deed_n he_o can_v not_o answer_v they_o and_o if_o none_o endeavour_v to_o answer_n they_o it_o will_v yet_o more_o appear_v that_o they_o can_v no_o way_n answeate_v they_o &_o that_o this_o kind_n of_o deal_n with_o protestant_n out_o of_o their_o own_o confession_n be_v the_o fit_a of_o all_o to_o stop_v their_o mouth_n finis_fw-la the_o translator_n to_o the_o reader_n the_o author_n adjoin_v hereto_o a_o catalogue_n of_o the_o protestant_a book_n with_o their_o several_a impression_n out_o of_o which_o he_o gather_v the_o testimony_n by_o he_o allege_v but_o because_o i_o think_v it_o not_o needful_a for_o those_o that_o read_v this_o english_a copy_n i_o have_v omit_v it_o the_o reader_n if_o he_o please_v may_v see_v it_o in_o the_o author_n latin_a copy_n the_o index_n or_o table_n of_o the_o chapter_n contain_v in_o these_o book_n the_o first_o book_n of_o the_o essence_n or_o substance_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n and_o religion_n chapter_n 1._o that_o sometime_o protestant_n admit_v very_o few_o into_o the_o ch●rch_n and_o ●equire_v very_o many_o thing_n to_o the_o make_n of_o a_o member_n thereof_o chap._n 2._o that_o at_o sometime_o protestant's_n account_v papists_n to_o be_v of_o the_o church_n chap._n 3._o th●t_v sometime_o protestant_n acknowledge_v all_o that_o deny_v either_o fundamental_a or_o other_o article_n of_o faith_n heretic_n schismatic_n and_o their_o profess_a enemy_n to_o be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n chap._n 4._o that_o sometime_o they_o do_v grant_v idolater_n infidel_n atheist_n and_o antichrist_n himself_o to_o be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n chap._n 5._o that_o protestant_n sometime_o account_v all_o their_o brethren_n who_o under_o the_o name_n of_o christian_n oppose_v themselves_o against_o the_o pope_n chap._n 6._o that_o it_o be_v necessary_o require_v to_o a_o protestant_n that_o he_o believe_v justification_n by_o only_a special_a faith_n chap._n 7._o that_o it_o be_v also_o necessary_a to_o a_o protestant_n to_o believe_v all_o the_o fundamental_a point_n of_o protestancy_n chap._n 8._o which_o be_v the_o fundamental_a point_n of_o protestancy_n and_o what_o a_o protsteant_n be_v the_o second_o book_n of_o the_o author_n or_o beginner_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n and_o religion_n chap._n 1._o that_o protestant_n confess_v that_o their_o church_n and_o religion_n be_v substantial_o perish_v when_o luther_n begin_v chap._n 2._o the_o shift_n wherewith_o protestant_n will_v delude_v their_o confession_n of_o the_o substantial_a destruction_n of_o their_o church_n and_o religion_n refute_v chap._n 3._o that_o protestant_n confess_v that_o all_o and_o every_o one_o follow_v a_o different_a church_n and_o religion_n from_o ●_z before_o luther_n begin_v to_o preach_v chap._n 4._o that_o protestant_n grant_v that_o their_o church_n and_o religion_n be_v quite_o invisible_a b_o before_o luther_n appear_v chap._n 5._o those_o which_o say_v there_o be_v any_o visible_a protestant_n before_o luther_n refell_v chap._n 6_o that_o the_o church_n can_v be_v so_o invisible_a as_o protestant_n confess_v they_o to_o have_v be_v before_o lut_n e_o s_o tyme._n chap._n 7._o that_o protestant_n acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v no_o protestant_a pastor_n before_o luther_n chap._n 8._o that_o the_o church_n can_v be_v without_o pastor_n chap_n 9_o that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v no_o where_n before_o luther_n arise_v chap._n 10._o the_o sophistries_n wherewith_o some_o protestant_n will_v seem_v to_o prove_v that_o in_o time_n past_o the_o protestant_n church_n be_v in_o popery_n refute_v chap._n 11._o that_o all_o the_o first_o know_v protestant_n have_v be_v papist_n before_o time_n chap._n 12._o that_o no_o auncient_a protestant_a then_o luther_n step_v forth_o and_o adjoin_v himself_o to_o luther_n company_n when_o he_o preach_v secure_o chap._n 13._o that_o the_o protestant_a church_n &_o religion_n be_v new_a chap._n 14._o that_o protestant_n do_v in_o plain_a term_n confess_v that_o luther_n be_v the_o author_n and_o beginner_n of_o their_o church_n and_o religion_n chap._n 15._o that_o protestant_n can_v prove_v by_o any_o sufficient_a witness_n or_o any_o probable_a argument_n that_o their_o church_n be_v before_o luther_n chap._n 16._o what_o he_o must_v observe_v who_o will_v undertake_v to_o answer_n this_o worke._n finis_fw-la
say_v he_o keep_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n about_o secondary_a matter_n have_v fall_v into_o misbelief_n and_o bucanus_n loc_fw-la 41._o de_fw-fr eccles_n quest_n 5._o avouch_v plain_o that_o anabaptist_n be_v a_o church_n like_a as_o a_o man_n attaint_v with_o leprosy_n or_o out_o of_o his_o wit_n be_v a_o man_n hi●_n majesty_n epist_n ad_fw-la card._n peron_n pag._n 25._o say_v some_o reckon_v baptism_n among_o those_o thing_n which_o whether_o we_o have_v or_o want_v the_o matter_n be_v not_o great_a and_o d._n whitaker_n count_v 4._o quest_n 7._o cap._n 2._o pag._n 716._o say_v we_o may_v abstain_v from_o baptism_n so_o there_o be_v no_o contempt_n and_o scandal_n in_o the_o fact_n final_o d._n morton_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o protestant_n apology_n lib._n 4._o albeit_o in_o the_o 6._o chapter_n he_o make_v a_o doubt_n whether_o anabaptist_n retain_v and_o hold_v the_o foundation_n yet_o in_o the_o 2._o cap._n sect_n 10._o speak_v thus_o the_o anabaptist_n exclude_v protestant_n and_o all_o different_a profession_n from_o the_o hope_n of_o spiritual_a life_n yet_o do_v not_o protestant_n judge_v the_o state_n of_o every_o anabaptist_n to_o be_v so_o utter_o desperate_a we_o see_v how_o they_o teach_v that_o anabaptist_n hold_v the_o foundation_n and_o deny_v but_o a_o external_a secondary_a and_o ceremonial_a matter_n and_o such_o as_o may_v be_v omit_v so_o it_o be_v do_v without_o scandal_n that_o anabaptist_n and_o themselves_o be_v son_n of_o the_o same_o father_n that_o they_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o salvation_n and_o that_o they_o be_v a_o church_n as_o a_o man_n taint_v with_o leprosy_n be_v a_o man_n now_o concern_v the_o arrian_n of_o these_o time_n m._n morton_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o israel_n and_o the_o church_n pag._n 94._o arrian_n and_o the_o arrian_n avouch_v plain_o that_o their_o church_n be_v to_o be_v account_v the_o church_n of_o god_n because_o say_v he_o they_o hold_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o gospel_n hooker_n in_o his_o 4._o 27._o daneus_n in_o c._n 53._o aug._n the_o hare_n whitak_n ad_fw-la rat._n 10._o pag._n 241._o parentius_n in_o instruct_v gall._n p._n 27._o book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n pag._n 181._o write_v thus_o the_o arian_n in_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o poland_n etc._n etc._n nay_o some_o of_o the_o protestant_n lay_v claim_n to_o that_o old_a heretic_n aërius_n for_o that_o he_o agree_v with_o they_o in_o denial_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o some_o other_o point_n yet_o that_o he_o be_v stain_v with_o arianisme_n s._n epiphanius_n who_o live_v in_o those_o time_n haer_fw-mi 75._o and_o s._n augustin_n 53._o witness_n whole_a credit_n herein_o can_v no_o way_n be_v impeach_v do_v plain_o testify_v enemy_n they_o lay_v claim_v to_o their_o profess_a enemy_n 10._o last_o they_o forbear_v not_o sometime_o to_o challenge_v for_o their_o own_o such_o as_o be_v their_o profess_a enemy_n as_o be_v certain_a by_o their_o claim_n to_o the_o papist_n and_o grecian_n who_o condemn_v and_o brand_v their_o doctrine_n with_o the_o mark_n of_o heresy_n and_o the_o sacramentary_n pretend_v a_o right_n to_o luther_n and_o the_o lutheran_n orient_n in_o council_n try_v in_o censura_fw-la orient_n howbeit_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o both_o the_o master_n and_o the_o sect_n have_v diverse_a time_n censure_v and_o condemn_v their_o doctrine_n by_o name_n as_o in_o the_o confession_n of_o auspurg_n mansfeld_n antwerp_n &_o that_o of_o sueveland_n set_v forth_o anno_o 1563._o in_o the_o book_n of_o concord_n in_o the_o visitation_n of_o saxony_n and_o else_o where_o it_o appear_v and_o that_o in_o the_o conference_n of_o marpurge_n and_o montbelgard_n they_o give_v they_o the_o repulse_n and_o flat_o refuse_v to_o admit_v they_o for_o brethren_n nay_o as_o lanatherus_n write_v lib._n the_o dissid_v euchar._n anno_fw-la 1556_o there_o have_v be_v many_o synod_n hold_v by_o the_o lutheran_n wherein_o they_o consult_v what_o way_n they_o may_v take_v to_o quell_v and_o make_v a_o end_n of_o the_o sacramentary_n and_o they_o show_v the_o same_o encroach_a desire_n in_o personal_a claim_n for_o illyricus_n in_o his_o catalogue_n lib._n 19_o col_fw-fr 1917_o enroll_v among_o his_o witness_n clicthovaeus_fw-la a_o earnest_n and_o vehement_a adversary_n both_o of_o luther_n and_o occolampadius_n d._n humphrey_n in_o vita_fw-la juelli_fw-la claim_v erasmus_n for_o a_o maintainer_n and_o champion_n of_o the_o truth_n 2._o rainolds_n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr idolat_a cap._n 2._o m._n fox_n vouchsafe_v he_o a_o place_n in_o his_o calendar_n of_o protestant_a saint_n and_o verheiden_n set_v his_o portraiture_n among_o the_o worthy_n and_o pair_n of_o their_o religion_n vorstius_n in_o append_v respon_n ad_fw-la sladum_fw-la pag._n 136._o account_v he_o one_o of_o his_o own_o that_o be_v say_v he_o one_o of_o the_o reform_a d._n whitaker_n contr._n 4._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 3._o pag._n 693_o say_v it_o be_v most_o apparent_a that_o erasmus_n think_v the_o same_o of_o religion_n that_o we_o do_v and_o yet_o erasmus_n himself_o lib._n 16._o epist_n 11._o profess_v that_o he_o acknowledge_v not_o luther_n and_o impugn_v open_o both_o him_z and_o his_o doctrine_n and_o as_o amidorfius_n write_v in_o epist_n apud_fw-la lutherum_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 487._o the_o sum_n of_o erasmus_n doctrine_n be_v this_o that_o luther_n doctrine_n be_v heresy_n o_o though_o brunsfelsius_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o erasmus_n sponge_n layth_v these_o thing_n to_o his_o charge_n thou_o make_v protestation_n never_o to_o have_v conversation_n or_o fellowship_n with_o those_o man_n who_o embrace_v the_o gospel_n under_o luther_n name_n again_o it_o be_v well_o know_v and_o confess_v that_o of_o so_o many_o enemy_n of_o the_o protestant_n gospel_n no_o one_o ever_o do_v it_o more_o harm_n than_o thou_o hutterus_n in_o expostulat_fw-la hospin_n part_n 2._o histor_n fol._n 72._o james_n andrew_n lib._n cont_n hosium_n p._n 110_o d._n james_n l._n the_o corrupt_a scripturae_fw-la &_o patrum_fw-la pag._n 66._o and_o other_o say_v the_o like_a of_o he_o d._n humphrey_n ad_fw-la rat._n 3._o campiani_n will_v have_v king_n henry_n 8._o to_o have_v be_v a_o member_n of_o their_o church_n d._n fulke_o lib._n cont_n heskin_n &_o saunder_n sect_n 82._o say_v he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o d._n andrews_n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la apoll._n bellarm._n cap._n 1._o say_v he_o be_v a_o true_a defender_n of_o the_o true_a say_v bucer_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la comment_fw-fr ad_fw-la rom_n he_o embrace_v the_o pure_a gospel_n of_o christ_n reject_v those_o forgery_n of_o man_n which_o be_v repugnant_a to_o it_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o he_o sharp_o persecute_v and_o pursue_v protestant_n even_o unto_o death_n and_o as_o melancthon_n write_v to_o he_o in_o epist_n tom_fw-mi 4_o he_o oppress_v the_o truth_n then_o appear_v and_o show_v itself_o and_o as_o cambden_n say_v in_o apparatu_fw-la annalium_fw-la anglie_o protestant_n he_o burn_v for_o heretic_n of_o charles_n 5._o scultetus_n in_o conc._n secular_a pag._n 10._o write_v thus_o it_o be_v know_v by_o undoubted_a demonstration_n that_o charles_n 5._o depart_v this_o life_n trust_v to_o the_o same_o comfort_n an●_n the_o same_o say_v which_o luther_n draw_v from_o the_o sacred_a welspring_n and_o broach_v to_o the_o people_n james_n andrews_n lib._n cont_n hosium_n pag._n 233._o have_v the_o like_a and_o yet_o in_o the_o same_o sermon_n p._n 27._o he_o say_v to_o this_o alone_a he_o bend_v his_o whole_a endeavour_n that_o he_o may_v pluck_v up_o the_o lutheran_n religion_n by_o the_o root_n m_o dove_n in_o his_o book_n of_o recusancy_n will_v needs_o persuade_v we_o that_o bellarmine_n himself_o be_v a_o protestant_n or_o at_o least_o not_o right_a papist_n what_o marvel_n be_v it_o if_o these_o man_n be_v so_o hardy_a as_o to_o challenge_v the_o ancient_a father_n see_v they_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o claim_v in_o this_o manner_n their_o profess_a enemy_n such_o as_o be_v know_v to_o all_o the_o world_n and_o be_v yet_o alive_a that_o protestant_n sometime_o acknowledge_v idolater_n infidel_n antichrist_n himself_o and_o atheist_n to_o be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n chap._n iu._n 1._o that_o they_o sometime_o confess_v idolater_n be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n idolater_n protestant_n challenge_v idolater_n be_v evident_a first_o for_o that_o they_o refuse_v not_o to_o receive_v papist_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v before_o in_o exclamation_n and_o outcry_n against_o who_o idolatry_n their_o tongue_n and_o pen_n be_v set_v most_o a_o work_n for_o to_o their_o worship_n of_o the_o eucharist_n of_o saint_n of_o image_n of_o relic_n they_o afford_v no_o mild_a name_n and_o second_o it_o appear_v by_o their_o own_o word_n for_o m._n hooker_n in_o his_o 3._o book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n pag._n 126._o say_v christian_n