Selected quad for the lemma: christian_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
christian_n	church_n	true_a	visible_a	6,279	5	9.0945	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90624	A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk.	Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711.	1659 (1659)	Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138	152,808	253

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pag._n 28._o viz._n that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v or_o make_v a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n for_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n before_o and_o so_o be_v not_o admit_v into_o that_o by_o their_o baptism_n and_o if_o no_o gospel_n church_n be_v at_o this_o time_n erect_v than_o their_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v they_o into_o any_o church_n at_o all_o 2._o many_o do_v visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n before_o the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n or_o have_v that_o mission_n mat._n 28._o therefore_o either_o his_o argument_n p._n 29._o must_v be_v false_a or_o else_o this_o his_o position_n p._n 10._o that_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n before_o the_o visible_a gospel_n church_n be_v erect_v can_v be_v true_a of_o which_o he_o say_v it_o be_v a_o plain_a case_n and_o undeniable_a 3._o if_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v preserve_v in_o the_o apostle_n in_o case_n all_o convert_v 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four_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o gospel_n precedent_n or_o example_n act._n 13._o 25._o etc._n etc._n apollo_n preach_v public_o yet_o be_v not_o ordain_v and_o the_o scatter_a saint_n act._n 8._o dr._n collings_n may_v see_v preacher_n sent._n p._n 66._o that_o we_o intend_v not_o gospel_n precedent_n by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n and_o therefore_o what_o ●he_n say_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 57_o 58._o about_o apostleship_n the_o holy_a kiss_n etc._n etc._n be_v but_o to_o raise_v a_o mist_n before_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o reader_n ob._n in_o these_o instance_n there_o be_v not_o a_o parity_n 1._o in_o the_o species_n of_o their_o gift_n there_o may_v be_v office_n or_o extraordinary_a gift_n apollo_n be_v rank_v with_o paul_n and_o peter_n 1_o cor._n 1._o 12._o call_v a_o minister_n 1_o cor._n 3._o 5._o and_o be_v mighty_a in_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v plain_a he_o preach_v only_o in_o order_n to_o office_n p._n 59_o the_o scatter_a christian_n be_v of_o the_o 8000._o who_o be_v fill_v with_o extraordinary_a gift_n act_n 4._o 31._o pag._n 60._o 2._o in_o the_o act_v nothing_o find_v to_o evidence_n that_o they_o act_v 8._o do_v preach_v in_o public_a assembly_n p._n 6._o 3._o in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v a_o infant_n state_n and_o a_o persecute_a state_n they_o may_v be_v under_o a_o necessity_n o●_n precept_n those_o extraordinary_a gift_n may_v be_v attend_v with_o a_o praeceptive_a impression_n act_v 4._o 31._o there_o be_v necessitas_fw-la medij_fw-la there_o be_v no_o other_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o salvation_n for_o these_o people_n vind._n revind_n p._n 61._o 62._o ans_fw-fr 1._o apollo_n gift_n be_v not_o of_o a_o other_o species_n adam_n and_o abel_n not_o two_o species_n of_o man_n though_o adam_n by_o creation_n abel_n by_o generation_n nor_o the_o habit_n in_o adam_n a_o divers_a species_n from_o they_o in_o abel_n because_o they_o infuse_v these_o acquire_v if_o apollo_n gift_n have_v be_v infuse_v which_o yet_o be_v not_o 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