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A00274 An ansvvere for the tyme, to the examination put in print, vvith out the authours name, pretending to mayntayne the apparrell prescribed against the declaration of the mynisters of London; Answere for the tyme, to the examination put in print, with out the authours name, pretending to mayntayne the apparrell prescribed against the declaration of the mynisters of London. 1566 (1566) STC 10388; ESTC S101663 78,828 156

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