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A03590 Of the lavves of ecclesiasticall politie eight bookes. By Richard Hooker.; Ecclesiastical polity. Books 1-4 Hooker, Richard, 1553 or 4-1600.; Spenser, John, 1559-1614. 1604 (1604) STC 13713; ESTC S120914 286,221 214

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they_o be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n use_v eccles._n discipl_a fol._n 12._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o p._n 131._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o p._n 20._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o p._n 25_o t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 13●_n t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 30._o t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 131._o t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 132_o tom._n 2._o br●●_n 73._o con._n africa_n cap._n 27._o lib._n de_fw-fr idololatria_fw-la he_o seem_v to_o mean_v the_o feast_n of_o easter_n day_n celebrate_v in_o the_o memory_n of_o our_o saviour_n resurrection_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n term_v the_o lord_n day_n lib._n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 178._o t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 17●_n t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 180._o that_o whereas_o they_o who_o blame_v we_o in_o this_o behalf_n when_o reason_n evict_v that_o all_o such_o ceremony_n be_v not_o to_o be_v abolish_v make_v answer_n that_o when_o they_o condemn_v popish_a ceremony_n their_o meaning_n be_v of_o ceremony_n unprofitable_a or_o ceremony_n in_o stead_n whereof_o as_o good_a or_o better_o may_v be_v devise_v they_o can_v hereby_o get_v out_o of_o the_o brier_n but_o contradict_v and_o gainsay_v themselves_o in_o as_o much_o as_o their_o usual_a manner_n be_v to_o prove_v that_o ceremony_n uncommaund_v of_o god_n and_o yet_o use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v for_o this_o very_a cause_n unprofitable_a to_o we_o and_o not_o so_o good_a as_o other_o in_o their_o place_n will_v be_v t.c._n lib._n p._n 171._o what_o a_o open_a untruth_n be_v it_o that_o this_o be_v one_o of_o our_o principle_n not_o to_o be_v lawful_a to_o use_v the_o same_o ceremony_n which_o the_o papist_n do_v when_o as_o i_o have_v both_o before_o declare_v the_o contrary_a and_o even_o here_o have_v express_o add_v that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v use_v when_o as_o good_a or_o better_a way_n be_v establish_v ecclesi_n discipl_n fol._n 100_o t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 176._o as_o for_o your_o oft●_n repeat_v tha●_n the_o ceremony_n in_o question_n be_v godly_a comely_a &_o decent_a it_o be_v your_o old_a wont_a of_o demand_v the_o thing_n in_o question_n and_o a_o undoubted_a argument_n of_o your_o extreme_a poverty_n t.c._n l._n p._n 174._o t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 177._o and_o that_o this_o complaint_n of_o ●urs_n be_v just_a in_o that_o we_o be_v thus_o constrain_v to_o be_v like_a unto_o th●_n papist_n in_o any_o their_o ceremony_n and_o that_o this_o cause_n only_o ought_v to_o move_v ●hem_o to_o who_o that_o belong_v to_o do_v they_o away_o for_o as_o much_o 〈◊〉_d they_o be_v their_o ceremony_n the_o reader_n may_v further_a se●_n in_o the_o b._n of_o salisbury_n who_o bring_v diverse_a proof_n thereof_o that_o our_o allow_v the_o custom_n of_o our_o father_n to_o be_v follow_v be_v no_o proof_n that_o we_o may_v not_o allow_v some_o custom_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v although_o we_o do_v not_o account_v of_o they_o as_o of_o our_o father_n that_o the_o course_n which_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n do_v teach_v make_v not_o against_o our_o conformity_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o such_o thing_n t.c._n lib._n 1._o p._n 89._o &_o 131._o levit._n 18.3_o levit._n 19.27_o levit._n 19.19_o deut._n 22.11_o deut._n 14.7_o &_o levit._n 11._o ephes._n 2.14_o levit._n 18.3_o levit._n 19.27_o levit._n 21.5_o deut._n 14.1_o 1._o thes._n 4.13_o levit._n 19.19_o deut._n 22.11_o deut._n 14.7_o levit._n 11._o levit._n 19.19_o deut._n 14._o levit._n 11._o eph._n 2.14_o that_o the_o example_n of_o the_o elder_a church_n be_v not_o herein_o against_o us._n t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 132._o the_o counsel_n although_o they_o do_v not_o observe_v themselves_o always_o in_o make_v of_o decree_n this_o rule_n yet_o have_v keep_v this_o consideration_n continual_o in_o make_v of_o their_o law_n that_o they_o will_v have_v the_o christian_n differ_v from_o other_o in_o their_o ceremony_n to._n 6._o cont_n faust._n m●nich_n lib._n 20._o cap._n 4._o t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 132._o also_o it_o be_v decree_v in_o ●nother_n council_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o deck_v their_o house_n with_o bay_a leaf_n &_o green_a bough_n because_o the_o pagan_n do_v use_v and_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o rest_v from_o their_o la●or_n those_o day_n that_o the_o pagan_n do_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o keep_v the_o first_o day_n of_o every_o month_n as_o they_o do_v t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 132_o tertul._n say_v o_o say_v he_o better_o be_v the_o religion_n of_o the_o heathen_a for_o they_o use_v no_o solemnity_n of_o the_o christian_n neither_o the_o lord_n day_n neither_o &c_n &c_n but_o we_o be_v not_o afraid_a to_o be_v call_v heathen_a t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 133._o but_o have_v show_v this_o in_o general_a to_o be_v the_o polity_n of_o god_n first_o and_o of_o h●●_n people_n afterward_o to_o put_v as_o much_o difference_n as_o can_v be_v commodious_o between_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o other_o which_o be_v not_o i_o shall_v not_o etc._n etc._n that_o it_o be_v not_o our_o best_a policy_n for_o the_o establishment_n of_o sound_a religion_n to_o have_v in_o these_o thing_n no_o agreement_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v unsound_a t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 132_o common_a reason_n also_o do_v teach_v that_o contrary_n be_v cure_v by_o their_o contrary_n now_o christianity_n and_o antichristianity_n the_o gospel_n and_o popery_n be_v contrary_n and_o therefore_o antichristianitie_n must_v be_v cure_v not_o by_o itself_o but_o by_o that_o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o may_v be_v contrary_a unto_o it_o t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 132_o if_o a_o man_n will_v bring_v a_o drunken_a man_n to_o sobriety_n the_o best_a and_o near_a way_n be_v to_o carry_v he_o as_o far_o from_o his_o excess_n in_o drink_n as_o may_v be_v and_o if_o a_o man_n can_v not_o keep_v a_o mean_a it_o be_v better_o to_o fault_n in_o prescribe_v less_o they_o he_o shall_v drink_v they_o to_o fault_n in_o give_v he_o more_o than_o he_o ought_v as_o we_o see_v to_o bring_v a_o stick_n which_o be_v crooked_a to_o be_v straight_o we_o do_v not_o only_a how_o it_o so_o far_o until_o it_o come_v to_o be_v straight_o but_o we_o bend_v it_o so_o far_o until_o we_o make_v it_o so_o crooked_a of_o the_o other_o side_n as_o it_o be_v before_o of_o the_o first_o side_n to_o this_o end_n that_o at_o the_o last_o it_o may_v stand_v straight_o and_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o midway_n between_o both_o the_o crook_n that_o we_o be_v not_o to_o abolish_v our_o ceremony_n either_o because_o papist_n upbray_v we_o as_o have_v take_v from_o they_o or_o for_o that_o they_o be_v say_v hereby_o to_o conceive_v i_o know_v not_o what_o great_a hope_n t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 178._o by_o use_v of_o these_o ceremony_n the_o papist_n take_v occasion_n to_o blaspheme_v say_v that_o our_o religion_n can_v stand_v by_o itself_o unless_o it_o l●●ue_v upon_o the_o staff_n of_o their_o ceremony_n t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 179._o to_o prove_v the_o papist_n triumph_n and_o joy_n in_o these_o thing_n i_o allege_v further_o that_o there_o be_v ●o●e_v which_o make_v such_o clamour_n for_o these_o ceremony_n as_o the_o papist_n and_o those_o which_o they_o suborn_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 179._o thus_o they_o conceive_v hope_n of_o have_v the_o rest_n of_o their_o popery_n in_o the_o end_n it_o cause_v they_o to_o be_v more_o freeze_a in_o their_o wickedness_n etc._n etc._n for_o not_o the_o cause_n but_o the_o occasion_n also_o aught_o to_o be_v take_v away_o etc._n etc._n although_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v whether_o they_o have_v cause_v give_v to_o hope_v that_o the_o tail_n of_o popery_n yet_o remain_v they_o shall_v the_o easy_o hale_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n after_o consider_v also_o that_o master_n bucer_n note_v that_o where_o these_o thing_n have_v be_v leave_v there_o popery_n have_v return_v but_o on_o the_o other_o part_n in_o place_n which_o have_v be_v cleanse_v of_o these_o dregs_n it_o have_v not_o be_v see_v that_o it_o have_v have_v any_o entrance_n ecclesi_n dis●_n fol._n 94._o t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 180._o there_o be_v number_n which_o have_v antichristianitie_n in_o such_o detestation_n that_o they_o c●●not_v without_o grief_n of_o mind_n behold_v they_o and_o afterward_o such_o godly_a brethren_n be_v not_o easy_o to_o be_v grieve_v which_o they_o seem_v to_o be_v when_o they_o be_v thus_o martyr_v in_o their_o mind_n for_o ceremony_n which_o to_o speak_v the_o best_a of_o they_o be_v unprofitable_a the_o grief_n which_o they_o say_v godly_a brethren_n conceive_v in_o regard_n of_o such_o ceremony_n as_o we_o have_v common_a with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n t.c._n l._n 3._o p._n 171_o although_o the_o corruption_n in_o they_o stick_v not_o straight_o to_o the_o heart_n yet_o as_o gentle_a