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A60978 Platonism unveil'd, or, An essay concerning the notions and opinions of Plato and some antient and modern divines his followers, in relation to the Logos, or word in particular, and the doctrine of the trinity in general : in two parts.; Platonisme déviolé. English Souverain, Matthieu, d. ca. 1699. 1700 (1700) Wing S4776 180,661 144

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