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pope_n judge_v herteick_n by_o many_o council_n where_o christ_n institution_n of_o the_o papacy_n must_v be_v find_v sect._n 2._o who_o ad_fw-la esse_fw-la must_v elect_v the_o pope_n sect._n 3._o w._n j._n can_v and_o dare_v not_o tell_v consecration_n deny_v to_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o pope_n sect._n 6._o neither_o papal_a nor_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n he_o say_v depend_v on_o papal_a or_o episcopal_a ordination_n sect._n 7._o so_o they_o may_v be_v layman_n what_o such_o jurisdiction_n be_v sect._n 8._o what_o notice_n or_o proof_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o subject_n chap._n 4._o their_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n bishop_n the_o pope_n be_v not_o of_o god_n ordain_v in_o their_o way_n sect._n 1._o 2._o their_o bishop_n of_o calcedon_n testimony_n put_v off_o sect._n 3_o they_o make_v all_o man_n that_o will_v or_o no_o man_n to_o be_v bishop_n his_o great_a confusion_n and_o contradiction_n say_v we_o want_v not_o episcopal_a consecration_n but_o election_n
confirmation_n vocation_n mission_n jurisdiction_n all_o these_o explain_v sect._n 8._o he_o make_v the_o chapter_n in_o queen_n elizabeth_n day_n to_o have_v have_v the_o power_n of_o choose_v all_o the_o parish_n priest_n pope_n no_o pope_n for_o want_v of_o common_a consent_n sect._n 9_o who_o must_v choose_v a_o monarch_n of_o all_o the_o earth_n sect._n 10._o their_o succession_n interrupt_v sect._n 11._o 12._o be_v it_o essential_a to_o a_o bishop_n to_o have_v many_o congregation_n parish_n or_o presbyter_n by_o affirm_v this_o he_o nullifi_v all_o the_o first_o bishop_n who_o be_v bishop_n before_o they_o make_v presbyter_n under_o they_o and_o so_o deny_v all_o succession_n by_o deny_v the_o root_n chap._n 5._o what_o they_o mean_v by_o tradition_n sect._n 1_o he_o think_v the_o tradition_n of_o all_o the_o world_n may_v be_v know_v by_o every_o christian_a as_o easy_o as_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n sect._n 2._o tradition_n against_o popery_n sect._n 4._o the_o protestant_n abassine_n armenian_n greek_n etc._n etc._n be_v of_o one_o church_n sect._n 4._o the_o contradiction_n of_o w._n j._n the_o unity_n of_o all_o other_o christian_n as_o such_o great_a than_o the_o unity_n of_o papist_n as_o papist_n sect._n 5._o chap._n 6._o what_o they_o mean_v by_o a_o general_n council_n his_o definition_n of_o a_o general_a council_n be_v no_o definition_n sect._n 2._o council_n of_o old_a not_o call_v by_o the_o pope_n sect._n 3_o his_o confusion_n and_o contradiction_n sect._n 4._o general_a council_n be_v but_o of_o the_o empire_n prove_v sect._n 5._o the_o impossibility_n and_o utter_a unlawfulness_n of_o a_o true_a universal_a council_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n prove_v sect._n 6._o how_o many_o make_v a_o universal_a council_n sect._n 7._o they_o make_v presbyter_n uncapable_a of_o vote_a in_o council_n and_o yet_o the_o high_a ancient_a part_n of_o the_o papacy_n viz._n to_o preside_v in_o council_n be_v oft_o depute_a 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extra-imperial_a church_n of_o old_a sect._n 4_o 5._o the_o plea_n of_o peter_n supremacy_n and_o their_o succession_n overthrow_v there_o never_o be_v twelve_o patriarchal_a seat_n as_o the_o successor_n of_o the_o twelve_o apostle_n no_o one_o patriarch_n claim_v to_o be_v a_o apostle_n successor_n but_o rome_n and_o antioch_n and_o antioch_n never_o claim_v supremacy_n on_o that_o account_n sect._n 6._o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n about_o the_o church_n perpetual_a visibility_n sect._n 7._o papist_n make_v christian_n no_o christian_n for_o not_o obey_v the_o pope_n and_o no_o christian_n to_o be_v christian_n if_o they_o will_v be_v his_o subject_n sect._n 8_o 9_o what_o i_o maintain_v sect._n 10._o a_o discourse_n republish_v prove_v that_o christ_n church_n have_v no_o universal_a head_n but_o himself_o pope_n nor_o council_n chap._n 1._o the_o confutation_n of_o w._n i_n reply_n twelve_o instance_n confuâ—…ing_v the_o wild_a fundamental_a principle_n of_o w._n j._n that_o whatever_n have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n by_o christ_n institution_n be_v essential_a to_o it_o sect._n 4._o by_o this_o he_o unchurch_v rome_n sect._n 5._o he_o say_v that_o every_o such_o thing_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o church_n but_o not_o to_o every_o member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o to_o such_o as_o have_v sufficient_a proposal_n confute_v sect_n 6._o by_o this_o their_o church_n can_v be_v know_v or_o the_o faith_n of_o a_o few_o may_v make_v other_o christian_n sect._n 7._o his_o assertion_n further_o confute_v sect._n 8._o his_o logical_a proof_n shame_v that_o every_o accident_n be_v separable_a and_o therefore_o all_o that_o christ_n institute_v to_o continue_v be_v no_o accident_n sect._n 9_o whether_o the_o belief_n of_o every_o institution_n for_o continuance_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o church_n sect._n 10._o they_o unchurch_n themselves_o sect._n 11._o he_o acknowledge_v that_o all_o christian_a nation_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o believe_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n express_o but_o implicit_o in_o subject_v themselves_o to_o they_o that_o christ_n have_v institute_v to_o be_v their_o lawful_a pastor_n five_o notable_a consequent_n of_o this_o the_o true_a method_n of_o believe_v sect._n 12._o the_o instance_n of_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o iberian_o and_o indian_n vindicate_v he_o suppose_v that_o every_o reveal_v truth_n be_v teach_v they_o by_o lay-person_n sect._n 13._o the_o instance_n of_o peter_n not_o preach_v his_o own_o supremacy_n act._n 2._o vindicate_v sect._n 14._o the_o indian_n convert_v by_o the_o english_a and_o dutch_a be_v teach_v the_o true_a faith_n sect._n 15._o and_o so_o be_v the_o abassine_n sect._n 16._o his_o doctrine_n against_o christ_n visible_a reign_n contain_v many_o gross_a error_n common_o call_v heresy_n and_o by_o make_v the_o christian_a world_n a_o monster_n if_o it_o have_v not_o one_o papal_a head_n he_o make_v the_o humane_a world_n a_o monster_n because_o it_o have_v not_o one_o humane_a king_n sect._n 17._o chap._n 2._o our_o church_n visibility_n confess_v they_o to_o be_v by_o they_o prove_v how_o far_o any_o protestant_n grant_v the_o power_n of_o patriarch_n and_o the_o pope_n as_o patriarch_n sect._n 1_o he_o bid_v i_o but_o prove_v that_o any_o church_n which_o now_o deny_v the_o pope_n sovereignty_n have_v be_v always_o visible_a and_o he_o be_v satisfy_v whether_o that_o church_n always_o deny_v it_o or_o not_o sect._n 2._o note_n hereon_o whether_o they_o shall_v exclaim_v against_o christ_n as_o a_o invisible_a head_n who_o make_v he_o as_o visible_a in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o every_o receiver_n as_o a_o king_n be_v in_o his_o clothes_n sect._n 3_o whether_o a_o ministry_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o universal_a church_n sect._n 4._o his_o argument_n against_o our_o christianity_n re-examined_a and_o confute_v by_o divers_a instance_n of_o such_o fallacy_n sect._n 5._o he_o require_v a_o instance_n of_o any_o church-unity_n though_o without_o a_o humane_a head_n which_o end_v the_o controversy_n sect._n 6._o more_o difference_n and_o great_a among_o papist_n than_o among_o all_o the_o other_o church_n sect._n 7._o he_o have_v no_o evasion_n but_o say_v that_o these_o church_n be_v not_o christian_n because_o they_o depend_v not_o on_o the_o pope_n from_o which_o he_o before_o say_v that_o he_o abstract_v sect._n 8._o he_o deny_v we_o with_o the_o abassine_n greek_n armenian_n etc._n etc._n to_o have_v be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o one_o church_n both_o full_o prove_v sect._n 9_o the_o charge_n of_o nestorianism_n and_o eutichianism_n on_o many_o church_n examine_v sect._n 10._o his_o shameful_a call_n for_o the_o name_n of_o sect_n and_o require_v proof_n of_o the_o negative_a that_o they_o be_v not_o such_o sect._n 11._o chap._n 3._o more_o of_o our_o unity_n of_o the_o speech_n of_o celestine_n legate_n at_o ephesus_n sect._n 1_o 2._o his_o say_n and_o unsay_n sect._n 3_o his_o
instance_n of_o goth_n dane_n swede_n examine_v sect._n 4_o 5._o whether_o extra_fw-la imperial_a church_n be_v under_o the_o pope_n sect._n 5._o in_o what_o case_n some_o be_v and_o which_o his_o pretence_n to_o the_o indian_n armenian_n and_o persian_n examine_v sect._n 6._o the_o tradition_n of_o these_o church_n be_v against_o popery_n sect_n 7._o his_o notorious_a fiction_n about_o the_o subjection_n of_o the_o indian_n armenian_n and_o abassine_n to_o rome_n sect._n 9_o 10._o of_o pisanus_n arabic_a nicene_n canon_n sect._n 11._o he_o intend_v to_o write_v a_o tractate_n to_o prove_v that_o extraneous_a bishop_n be_v at_o the_o council_n but_o that_o put-off_a go_v for_o a_o answer_n sect._n 12._o he_o confess_v that_o the_o very_a gallicane_n and_o spanish_a liturgy_n mention_v not_o the_o pope_n sovereignty_n no_o more_o than_o the_o ethiopic_a sect._n 13._o when_o constantine_n entreat_v the_o king_n of_o persia_n for_o the_o church_n there_o the_o pope_n do_v not_o command_v 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honorius_n 3._o the_o council_n reprehend_v not_o the_o title_n many_o such_o instance_n may_v be_v give_v of_o as_o high_a title_n give_v to_o jerusalem_n alexandria_n antioch_n constantinople_n as_o rome_n pretend_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o its_o universal-church-monarchy_n and_o if_o it_o prove_v no_o such_o power_n in_o other_o it_o prove_v it_o not_o in_o the_o pope_n finis_fw-la ☞_o sect._n 1_o sect._n 2_o sect._n 3_o sect._n 4._o sect._n 5._o sect._n 6._o sect._n 7._o sect._n 8._o sect._n 9_o sect._n 10._o sect._n 11._o sect._n 12._o sect._n 13._o sect._n 14._o sect._n 15._o sect._n 16._o sect._n 17._o sect._n 18._o sect._n 19_o sect._n 20._o sect._n 21._o sect._n 22._o ☞_o sect._n 23._o sect._n 〈◊〉_d sect._n 25._o sect._n 26._o sect._n 27._o sect._n 28._o sect._n 2._o 2._o see_v they_o answer_v by_o joh._n rossens_n bishop_n buckeâ—…idge_n sect._n 3_o sect._n 4._o sect._n 5._o sect._n 6._o sect._n 7._o so_o all_o that_o take_v not_o every_o priest_n for_o a_o lawful_a 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