of faith Now wee haue proued by your owne Witnesses as by your owne eyes that aboue 2280. Bishops in their VIII Generall Councels and euery Generall Councell you call the Catholike Church haue opposed your Article of pretended Subiection The first by proportioning aswell the limits of the Romane Dioces as of other Patriarks The second by iudging the Romane Primacie not to stand vpon any Diuine authoritie and setting vp a Patriarke of Constantinople contrary to the Popes will The third by inhibiting any Bishop whatsoeuer from Ordaining Bishops within the Isle of Cyprus The fourth by aduancing the Bishops of Constantinople and establishing them in equall Priuiledges with the Bishops of Rome notwitstanding the Popes earnest opposition against it The fift in Condemning the Sentence of Pope Vigilius albeit one extreamely vehement in that Cause The Sixt and Seauenth in condemning Pope Honorius of Heresie And the Eighth by imposing a Canon vpon the Church of Rome and challenging Obedience thereunto Any man therefore although destitute of good Conscience if but endued with common ingenuitie will iudge and confesse that this Article which thus Condemneth aboue 2280. Bishops of the first Eighth Generall Councels whereof most were as Catholike as they were ancient and learned together with all their Beleeuers for the space of aboue 540. yeares Professours of the Christian faith is iustly to be condemned as Scandalous Schismaticall Hereticall Blasphemous Respectiuely and euery way damnable CHAP. IX Our fourth Argument taken from the Examples of particular Churches Catholike which contemning the Excommunication of the Bishop of Rome were notwithstanding acknowledged to be in the state of Saluation SECT 1. THree things there are which your new Romane Article requireth as Necessary to Saluation of Christians throughout the World I. Is to haue Vnion with the Church of Rome and Head thereof II. Because there are two kindes of Vnions one in Equalitie as is betweene the Members of the same Body and another in an Inequalitie like as is betweene the Head and the Body your Article exacteth Vnion of subiection also The III. is the Necessitie of faith concerning both these as namely that euery Christian doe beleeue the truth of the Article in both to wit that they are indeede Necessary to Saluation Therefore haue wee singled out Examples of ancient Churches which you your selues note as Excommunicate by the Popo which notwithstanding all the Christian world haue held to haue beene in the state of Saluation Our first Instance is in the ancient Churches of Asia which notwithstanding the Excommunication of Pope Victor were in the state of Saluation SECT 2. YOur owne Authors boastingly relate that in the yeare 197. Pope Victor did excommunicate all the Easterne Churches for not obseruing the feast of Easter vpon the Lords day which Excommunication say they is not found to haue beene afterwards reuoked or retracted wherein notwithstanding those that were auerse continued a long time So they A storie certainly worthy your double consideration whereof you cannot be ignorant it being recorded by Eusebius at large that namely Polycrates Bishop of Ephesus in Asia pleaded the Cause of the Churches of Asia against the Excommunication of Victor in that his Epistle whereunto the other Bishops in Asia gaue their Consent Prouing that their Custome contrary to the Romane was receiued from Saint Iohn who leaned vpon our Lords brest that it was practised by Philip the Apostle who died in Asia that it was continued by Saint Polycarpus Martyr and Bishop of Smyrna by Thraseas Bishop and Martyr by Sagonius Bishop and Martyr and that then Polycrates being animated by these so worthy Examples and the vnanimous Consent of their Bishops in Asia stood in defiance with that Pope Victor and contemned his Excommunications saying I who haue now liued sixtie fiue yeares in the Lord and haue had communion in the faith with all the Brethren dispersed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 throughout the world and nothing moued with these terrors meaning of Ezcommunication which are vrged against vs. Thus farre the Ecclesiasticall Storie wherein appeareth this Conclusion as manifest as if it had beene deliuered in expresse termes viz. That a Christian may haue Communion generally with the Catholike Church else-where throughout the world notwithstanding the Excommunication of the Pope and See of Rome and therefore cannot the Romane Church be called the Catholike Church as the Head whereunto all others ought to professe Vnion and yeeld Subiection Yea but your Question will be whether these Asian Churches being thus Excommunicate by the Pope of Rome and so without the Vnion of your Church could therefore be said to be without the state of Saluation This is the maine point for satisfaction whereunto first if you will respect the faith of those Churches it is plaine that they beleeued that the Excommunication of the Bishop of Rome had no further power than to seperate them from his owne Romane Societie and Communion but extended not to the Church Catholike and Separation from it And this will appeare to bee true by better testimonies from the same knowne Storie it selfe where you may read that This Act of Victor did not well please all other Bishops who did greatly reproue him for troubling the peace of the Church And among others Father Irenaeus in the person of his Brethren in France wrote Letters to Pope Victor Dehorting him from his purpose This is enough to proue that Pope Victor was the Schismatike that troubled the peace of the Church and not the Asian Bishops whom these other holy Bishops did so far iustifie as not to deserue Excommunication But to appeale to your owne Consciences shew vnto vs in all your reading if you can that Polycrates and other Asian Bishops so Excommunicate by Pope Victor were held by any other Catholike Bishops of those times to be thereby without the state of Saluation For this you know is the very soule of your Article viz. The Catholike Romane Church without which there is no Saluation Nay but you full well know that Contrarily Saint Hierome in his Catalogue of Ecclesiasticall Writers numbred Polycrates among those who did aduance the Catholike faith And againe relating this his opposition against Victor This I therefore mention saith hee to make knowne what was his meaning Polycrates Authoritie And yet againe Reporting the behauiâ—ur of Irenaeus and other Bishops in the same Case These saith hee albeit they differed in opinion from the Asian Bishops yet did they not consent to Pope Victor in the act of Excommunication So hee Where Not Consenting to the Popes Excommunication doth plainly inferre their inward Communion with the Bishops of Asia CHALLENGE THis one Case if there were no other were enough to strangle your Romane faith in that Article viz. The Romane Church without vnion wherewith there is no Saluation Wherein we finde the Bishops and Churches of Asia Excommunicated by the Romane Bishop and so separated from the Communion of his See
our Brother Cornelius c. Behold this in a secular glasse and conceiue what a despight it were vnto a King to heare his Vassall salute him with a Farewell fellow Henrie Fie fie what will you make of the Fathers will you iudge them so witlesse or senselesse as not to haue vnderstood their Morals Yet so you propound them For some where they giue glorious Titles to the Popes of Rome and in euery such one you point out the Pope the Monarch of the Church notwithstanding the same Fathers gaue the like Titles also to others Sometime they ioyne more familiarly with Popes by Tearmes of Fellowship and Brotherhood and yet euen then also you will haue them to beleeue your Pope to be their Monarch What Solecismes must these be The First as if one should put the Diadem vpon the Kings foot the Second as if hee should put the Kings shooe vpon his head This is not spoken by vs to note the holy Fathers of such default farre be it from vs but to condemne your Authors and Disputers of want of sobrietie that thus reason beyond all reason Thus haue you heard Cyprian interpret his Words by his owne Word Will you now heare Cyprian speake by his Acts and Deeds wee shall but be your remembrancers of that which hath bin largely proued already as namely Cyprian his Reprehending and taunting the person of Stephen the Pope of Rome and Successour to Cornelius contradicting his Decrees opposing his Romane Councell disclaiming his claime of Appeales contemning his threats of Excommunication Can you perswade your selues that Cyprian could haue escaped the crueltie of your Romish Inquisition if hee had liued and so behaued himselfe a Bishop among you at this day All this while we haue said nothing of the Corruptions of the writings of Cyprian which your Papalists feede vpon Our like Discouerie of the like Vanitie of your Proofes out of other the Latine Fathers SECT 9. THE Second Father is OPTATVS Concerning whom your Obiection maketh fâ—r vs a good Answere For if Optatus as hee saith followed the iudgement of Cyprian than it followeth that the foresaid Iudgement of Cyprian may resolue vs of the Doctrine of Optatus to wit that by One Chaire or Church hee ment the whole Vniuersall Church professing the same Catholike Faith and that the Particular Church of Rome as it then stood was an excellent Portion thereof built vpon the same Faith of Peter which all Christians professe but onely a Portion because the same Father obiecteth against the Donatists their want of Vnion with the Churches of Asia commended by Saint Iohn in his Reuelation as well as with Rome You haue no fellowship saith hee with the seauen Angels of Asia whatsoeuer is without these Seauen Churches is an alien namely from the Catholike Church and Saluation Which Doctrine of Optatus is sufficient to proue all Appropriators of an Infallible and Perpetuall Church to onely Rome to be little better then Donatists If you require a further Answer you may receiue it from a farre more elegant penne which will tell you that Optatus who required a necessary Vnion with the Romane Chaire yet neuer taught any Necessity of Vniuersall Subiection vnto it Nay so farre was he from acknowledgement of Monarchicall Dominion in the Pope that he calleth him absolutely his Fellow So he As for Necessity of Vnion it is no more than he required to be had as you haue heard vnto the Churches of Asia so that whensoeuer Rome as Asia hath done shall depart from the sincerity of the Apostolicall profession the departure from that must dissolue the Necessity of Vnion The third Latine Father is Ambrose the fourth Hierom the fifth Augustine If we thought it not an iniury vnto you to repeat the former Answers which haue beene made to all these Obiections it were an easie matter for vs to be superfluous When you shall reuiew the places then we doubt not but it will seeme as well to you as vnto vs an hatefull thing to see what violence your Obiections haue offered to these witnesses of Antiquity but much more to their owne consciences in inforcing these witnesses to speake the language of Babell and conspiring together to build the Tower of Papall Monarchy which both their words and Acts as you haue already heard do in a manner confound The sixt is Prosper whose meaning might haue bene better knowne if he had written in prose and not assumed vnto him the liberty of a Poet. Yet he and the seauenth namely Victor Vticensis call the Church of Rome The Head of all Churches But how in power and Iurisdiction you could neuer prooue this out of any ancient Father No but euen as Antioch and Constantinople with other Churches haue bene so called in other respects The eight is Vincentius Lyrinensis in whose Testimonie your Cardinall doth first mistake a mountaine for a man and secondly painting for person For Lyrinensis called not the Popes of Rome namely Felix and Iulius nor the Church of Rome but the Citie of Rome The Head of all the world What is more frequent than Rome to be called the Head of the Church Caput orbis after an Ethnick stile because of the Ciuill Dominion thereof ouer other Nations Hee called also Carthage on the North and Milan on the South the Sides by reason of their situations onely figuratiuely And although he had in like manner called the Bishop of Rome the Head and the other two Bishops his Sides must therefore the Pope of Rome be truly and absolutly iudged to be the Monarchicall Head of the Church in the meaning of Lyrinensis Then must you as absolutely beleeue that Cyprian of Carthage and Ambrose of Milan and their Successors were alwaies to continue the Sides of the Catholike Church Is this good learning thus to snatch at aduantages of naked Metaphors and with Michol to present vnto vs an image for a man But who is there that knoweth not how little the Church of Rome is beholden to Vincentius Lyrinensis who writing a Booke which you your selues call Little in bulke but most great in weight and worth wherein he giueth Resolution to all Catholikes how they should discerne the True Church yet neuer remembred your Romane Article of making the Church of Rome the Mother Mistris and Monarch of all the Churches in the world without Subiection whereunto as you say there is no Saluation But how should a man remember that which hee neuer forgot or forget that which he neuer learnt For if this had bene his Faith his booke of Resolutions which you say was so Little might haue bene comprehended in one leafe and almost in one line to wit There is but one Catholike Church which is the Roman which hath the Promise of perpetuall infallibility stand euer to this and then you cannot but be a good Catholike Nay he matcheth the Easterne Church with the Westerne as
and yet notwithstanding were reputed still in the Church of Christ Catholike Bishops and so farre in the Communion of the Church Catholike that many godly Bishops in the Latine Church would not seuer themselues from their Communion Yet Bishop Christopherson that you might beleeue the Excommunication of Pope Victor to be of an vniuersall power extent translateth the Greeke sentence of Eusebius thus Irenaeus exhorted Pope Victor not vtterly to cut off so many Churches from the body of the vniuersall Church of Christ. Which Interpretation if true might seeme to make the Church of Rome the Catholike Church But as it became a sworne Scribe for the Pope he peruerts the Text which is to be rendred thus Irenaeus exhorted Pope Victor not to cut off whole Churches of God without any mention of the Bodie of the Church Ergò it cannot import an Excommunication from the Vniuersall bodie of the Church but onely from the Church of Rome as from a particular member of that vniuersall as hath beene proued What then may be thought of your new Article but as of a barbarous and Antichristian Paradox which separateth from all hope of life all the Christians of the Easterly parts of Asia who In multitude exceeded the Christians of the Greeke and Latine Churches But God be thanked that by the doctrine of those Primitiue times the Excommunication of the Romane Church made no mortall wound for the Asian Bishops esteemed no better of it than of a Brutum Fulmen And if you will suffer vs to bee somewhat more equally minded to Victor Bishop of Rome than you your selues can be we may perswade our selues that hee did not by this his Excommunication intend to shew or arrogate any Iurisdiction ouer the Greeke Churches as Pastor ouer his flocke but onely to denie participation of brotherly Communion with them as they might if they had beene so forward haue dealt with him this being an Act of Diuision Inter Pares which likewise doth conclude the no-absolute Necessitie of Vnion with the Romane Church Our Second Instance is in the Churches of Africke Numidia and Mauritania in the dayes of Saint Cyprian by 87. Bishops in the Councell of Carthage Anno 256. Who notwithstanding the Excommunication of the Pope of Rome were euer held by the Catholike Church the Essentiall members thereof and in state of Saluation SECT 3. WHen the Case of Basilides and Martial was on foot concerning Appeales from the Church of Carthage to Rome and the Quaestion of Rebaptization of those persons that had renounced their Haeresies was in agitation betweene Stephen Bishop of Rome and Cyprian Bishop of Carthage The Church of Africke and others of that Primitiue age gaue so infallible testimonies of denying the Popes Catholike Iurisdiction ouer other Churches and of despising his now pretended Catholike power of Excommunication as may sâ—ffice for the full determination of this whole Cause in confutation of your new Article to wit The Catholike Romane Church without which there is no saluation This Case therefore being so pertinent and pregnant wee will proceede therein methodically I. The full Opposition of Saint Cyprian and other Bishops against Stephen then Bishop of Rome SECT 4. SVch was the Opposition of Saint Cyprian and others against Stephen Bishop of Rome that euen by your owne Confessions Cyprian gathered a Councell of 87. Bishops out of Africke Numidia and Mauritania which concluded contrary to the Pope and his Councell celebrated in Italy Secondly such that Cyprian iudged the same Pope to erre proudly ignorantly and blindly Thirdly such that he impugned the Popes pretended power of Appeales to Rome accompting the Appellants to wit Basilides and Martial Renegados and desperate Delinquents challenging his right of Iudicature for the proceeding against those notoriously wicked Companions who therefore ought to be sent backe againe saith he to be censured by their owne Bishop Fourthly such that this Councell of Carthage did deny to any whomsoeuer the Title of Bishop of Bishops Fiftly such that Cyprian would not acknowledge the name of POPE per Antonomasiam that is By way of Excellency to be proper to the Bishop of Rome as you teach Insomuch that at the instant when as Cyprian was to lay downe his life to Martyrdome for the profession of the holy Faith Being demanded of the Pro-Consull who then had charge to put him to death saying Art thou Hee who shewed thy selfe POPE among the Christians He answered I am Which may be enough to dash that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which you appropriate vnto the Bishop of Rome by the name of Pope Great therefore was the Opposition of Cyprian against Stephen namely Bishop against Bishop Chaire against Chaire Councell against Councell as flat Diameter as possibly might be II. That Saint Cyprian and Others were Excommunicated by Pope Stephen SECT 5. IT were friuolous to stand vpon presumptions when we haue your owne Confessions You grant that at the same time when Saint Cyprian did contend with Stephen Bishop of Rome the same Pope Excommunicated the Easterne Bishops of Cappadocia Cilicia and Galatia for the same cause of Rebaptization Secondly that th' aforesaid Pope Stephen did also as much as lay in him cast off Cyprian insomuch that Hee would not admit vnto his speach them that were sent from Cyprian vnto him Nor this onely but also commanded them that were of his owne profession not to haue any peace or communion with them nor yet to allow them so much as house-roome or lodging Yea and Pope Stephen signified by writing that no Communion was to be held with them that did rebaptize Not to insist vpon the Popes lauish and reproachfull speach in calling Cyprian a Counterfait Christ and a deceitfull worker All which are prooued out of the Epistle of Firmilianus Bishop of Caesara in Cappadocea which almost in euery point doth manifest the Excommunication of Saint Cyprian CHALLENGE FOR what better proofe of the Excommunication of Saint Cyprian and other Bishops of his Fraternity than denying by writing All communion with them that were of the same Opinion with Cyprian and after in Act Forbidding all communion First by speach and conference Secondly by conuersation and company Thirdly by eating or hospitality Each one of these being according to your owne positiue Conclusions a proper Character of that which is called The Greater Excommunication and consequently in your sense a Separation from the Body of the Romane Church III. That Saint Cyprian held not the Excommunication of the Pope to be anâ— valid Separation from the Catholike Church or hazardous to the state of Saluation SECT 6. NOne euer was more Christianly affected to the Catholike Church than was Saint Cyprian nor more firmly belieued that the Vnion with the Catholike Church is necessary to saluation whose profession was this Although a man saith he were slaine for the name of Christ yet if he be without the Vnion of the Church he cannot
not subiect to Rome SECT 9. WHen Protestants in Confutation of a Sacrilegious abuse in the Church of Rome by allowing of Publike Seruice in an vnknowne tongue thereby depriuing God of a principall part of his Worship euen the vnderstanding of the Worshipper and Gods people of their comfort do obiect vnto you the Examples of the Churches of the Aegyptians and the like they can receiue no better Answer than that which the yellow choler of your Cardinall would vouchsafe them We are no more mooued saith he with the Examples of these Aethiopians Aegyptians c. than we are with the Customes of the Lutherans because they were either Heretitkes or Schismatickes So he plainly notifying vnto you that were they onely Schismatickes by denying Subiection to the Church of Rome yet that alone without any suspition of Heresie might be held sufficient in his opinion to conclude them in the state of Damnation and indeed there are scarce Any among these challengeable for any Fundamentall Heresie Whom therefore Protestants embrace as Partakers of that which Saint Iude calleth The common Saluation CHALLENGE AS often as we reade how gratiously Christ the Sonne of God entertained the woman diseased with a Bloudy issue by affoording the Operation of a Diuine virtue to cure her maladie at the very Touching of but the hemme of his garment so often are we to acknowledge that Super-abundant grace of God in Christ euen to the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 men of Small Faith nay once to one bringing with him a beleeuing vnbeliefe and saying Lord I belieue helpe my vnbeliefe But here behold infinite soules of professed Christians whom you dare not directly charge with Heresie and yet O the cursed maliciousnesse of the pride of Rome must they all be Damned and by one Romane Article of Necessitie of Subiection to the Church of Rome are excluded from all possibility of Saluation The like must be said of multitudes of other Christians in Africke and Asia besides Iaponia wherein not long since hath bene reckoned to be Two hundred thousand Christians To omit other Countries Christian too many to bee recited Our second kind of Instance in respect of Churches nearer to the Territories of Rome yet not Subiect to the Romane Church which are the Churches of Protestants SECT 10. WHole volumes would not suffice to containe the Exceptions which we may iustly take against the Church of Rome not onely in respect of her Professors and their differences in Doctrine but euen in your Profession and Religion it selfe as well Morall as Theologicall but you had rather that we should giue Answer to your Calumniations Know therefore First that the number of Protestant Professors is not in comparison of yours that will be the onely Catholikes so very a Pusillus Grex that you can haue any Reason to contemne it For if so then would not your Cardinall so greatly enuie and maligne the Extent and latitude thereof who speaking of Protestants saith that They at this day possesse so many and ample Prouinces as England Scotland Denmarke Norway Sweuia and no small part of Germania Polonia Bohemia and Hungaria Yet he pretermitteth France Heluetia Ireland and many other places where these Professors are visible I. CHALLENGE in Particular ALL these Churches of Protestants may seeme to containe in them one Moity of the Christian world in the Westerne parts thereof whose greatest Error which you can impute vnto them is that They for their Faith immediatly depend vpon Christ Iesus as the Head of the Catholike Church and their greatest vice that they impugne the Popes Indulgences the nourceries of all vices and their greatest Schisme that they will be diuided from that Church of Rome which proudly and impiously diuideth her selfe from all other Churches of the world And must all These that are willing to sacrifice their liues for Christ and his Ancient Faith contained in the Catholike Creeds be necessarily Damned for denying of one new Article of Necessity of Subiection to the Catholike Romane Church which Article as hath beene plentifully proued doth manifoldly contradict the sense of the Article in the Apostles Creed concerning The Catholike Church II. CHALLENGE in Generall OVR Question still is concerning the Church Catholike which is the whole Church of Christ consisting of all Particular Churches as the members and parts thereof You haue heard of the multitudes of Remote Churches Christian in Greece Assyria Aegypt Aethiopia c. The like instance haue you heard of the Churches of Protestants in Denmarke Saxonia Bohemia c. Try now whether that Obiection made by Optatus against the Donatists may not some-way checke you You saith he will haue the Church to be onely where you are but in Dacia Misia Thracia Achaia c. Where you are not you will not haue it to be nor will you haue it to be in Graecia Cappadocia Aegypt c. And innumerable other Isles and Prouinces where you are not His Reason For you will haue your selues onely to be the Whole who are not in euery Whole So he Tell vs now when euer any Church could more professe it selfe to be Whole in respect of other Churches than that which will haue it selfe onely to be called The Catholike or Vniuersall Romane Church or else to be more Alone than she that excludeth from hope of Saluation all other Churches which are not subiect vnto her Our third kind of Instance is in the Church of Rome herselfe proouing that this Article The Catholike Romane Church without which there is no Saluation becometh pernicious to them that will be called the Body or Members thereof SECT 11. BY this time we are drawing neare to the Gates of Rome to try what peace there is within her walls and what security can be had in Apocalypticall Babylon for so is Rome called by Saint Iohn according to the common Interpretation of your owne Doctors And in as much as we are now to fight within her owne Territories in this conflict wee shall endeuour to make good vpon you Two most Obseruable Positions The first concerneth the almost desperate estate of your Church of Rome the Next is the Safety and security of the Churches of Protestants The danger of the Church of Rome and some Members thereof is that it is made twice Damnable Once by the Article which it professeth viz. The Catholike Mother and Mistris Church of Rome without Vnion and Subiection whereunto there is no Saluation Next and more especially by the Apostolicall Article as it is vnderstood in our Christian Creed of beleeuing THE CATHOLIKE CHVRCH The State of the Question by Comparison of the Head and Body of the Romane Church together according to the sense of your now Article The Catholike Romane Church without which c. SECT 12. THe Church of Rome consisteth of a Pope and his Subordinates as of an Head and a Body yet so as the Body your Church taketh the Denomination to be called Catholike
hath beene prooued by the Testimonies of Catholike and General Councels Fathers and Martyrs to be an Errour in it selfe The other Principle is that whereon the former dependeth to wit that the Bishop or Pope of Rome is the Vniuersall Head of the Catholike Church which in the iudgement of a most ancient and holy Pope is not onely a Prophane and Antichristian errour in it selfe but also the high-way of erring vniuersally Because saith hee if that One Vniuersall Bishop erre then must the whole and Vniuersall Church erre with him Where the same Saint Gregorie vpon a particular occasion taken at Iohn the Patriarke of Constantinople who ambitiously sought the Title of Vniuersall Bishop gaue this his foresaid generall Doctrine concerning any Bishop whatsouer whether in the See of Constantinople or Rome or wheresoeuer Euen as the Apostle vpon occasion of confuting of one new error among the Galatians giueth them a generall lesson against all other the like Nouelties of Doctrin If we or an Angel from heauen preach otherwise than hath been preached vnto you let him be Anathema or Accursed And that diuerse Popes haue beene Heretikes your owne Histories doe sufficiently proclaime especially in the example of Pope Honorius whom two Generall Councels three Romane Popes his Successours and diuers others your owne zealous Popish Writers haue reckoned among the Monothelites But you will say albeit that Pope were a Monothelite yet did not the whole Catholike Church fall into that Heresie with him True which manifesteth the falshood of your now Romane Article in as much as in those ancient times neither did the Church truely called Catholike hold the Pope to be the Catholike or Vniuersall Head of the Church neither yet did that which you abusiuely absurdly and falsely call the Catholike Church to wit the Church of Rome it selfe beleeue your Article of Infallibilitie of iudgement in your Popes A memorable example wee haue in your Pope Liberius who professing himselfe an Arian and seeking by his Arian faction to returne to his See found a bloudy resistance by both the Clergie and people of the Church of Rome as your selues well know But now when as the falsly-vsurped Title of Vniuersall Head carrieth in the beliefe of the new Church of Rome a confidence of an Vniuersall truth in whatsoeuer new Doctrine of faith in this Case that saying of Christ is verified If the blinde such is hee that in the opinion of his Vniversall Headship presumeth vpon an Infallibilitie of iudgement leade the blinde such are all they who by an Implicit and blind beliefe adhere vnto him as to an Oracle of Diuine truth Both shall fall into the ditch THESIS III. There is not in all Scripture any Prophecie of the fall of any Church Christian from the faith but onely of the Church of Rome from which it may sometime be Necessary to depart SECT 11. FOr where can you finde in all Scripture tell vs that the Spirit of God brandeth any Citie Christian with the note of certaine Apostasie from the truth but onely the Citie of Rome Your owne Iesuites haue confessed Themselues being compelled thereunto by the light of the Reuelation of the holy Ghost in the booke of Reuelation Apoc. 12. to acknowledge saying The Citie of Rome is Babylon there prophesied of to become before the end of the world The Seat of Antichrist and after to be suddenly and visibly Destroyed by the vengeance of God And although they are not more ingenuous in this Confession concerning the Citie of Rome in the dayes of Antichrist to come than they are not to dissemble with you zealous and indeede obstinate in denying that it can be ment of the Church of Rome yet would we faine know what you would thinke of the Church of England if the like Prophecie were extant in God's booke pointing out the Citie of London to be in times to come The Seat of Antichrist Would you desire a more Popular argument especially in these times wherein the ends of the world are come vpon vs to perswade your people to abhorre and detest the Church of England euen for that Citie sake But you are further to remember that which hath beene already prooued that your Church cannot be called The Church of Rome but by reason of the Seate thereof which is in the Citie of Rome Which wee now moreouer Confirme by the Apostle Saint Paul who writing to the Romanes maketh this the Inscription of his Epistle Chap. 1.7 To all you that are at Rome And againe ver 15. I am ready to preach vnto you that are at Rome Signifying that it cannot hereby be called the Church of Rome without relation to a company of Professours in the Citie of Rome Whensoeuer therefore Rome as is confessed shall become that Babylon and Seate of Antichrist whereof the Spirit saith to the faithfull Come out of Babylon my people Apoc. 18.4 then the necessitie of Departure must needes follow THESIS IV. The Church of Rome hath long beene and still is the most Schismaticall Church of all other Churches Christian that carry in them a Visible face of a Church SECT 12. OH that this could be iustly doubted of your owne supreame Article doth abundantly proue it to wit The Catholike Romane Church without Vnion and Subiection whereunto there is no Saluation By which one Article as you haue heard doe stand Excommunicate as much as lyeth in your Romane Church and depriued of all hope of Saluation the most renoumed godly Emperors the most ancient and Reuerend Popes the most graue and Orthodoxe Patriarkes and Fathers of the first Eight in your owne estimation Generall Councels the most famous Christian Churches the most constant Martyrs Confessours and Saints of God that the primitiue times of Christ his Church haue knowne and recorded to posteritie many whereof are at this day registred in the Romane Martyrologe and Calendar of Saints All which hath beene fully proued than which what Doctrine of Schismatikes can be more Schismaticall And what shall wee say of the After-ages of the Church wherein wee haue obserued the Church of the Graecians Aethiopians Aegyptians Assyrians not to mention as yet the Churches of Protestants Armenians Russians and others for extent more large than Rome for worship more pure for faith more sound and for profession thereof more constant by sustaining daily iniuries and thraldomes vnder the Mahumetans and other Pagan Enemies all which Churches amount to innumerable numbers of Christian soules who being by your Article of The Catholike Romane Church excluded from your Communion must accordingly be held to perish euerlastingly But pardon vs if wee from the Example of these so many Churches Christian of so large extent and long Continuance make bold to vse a little Logicke with you in this manner That Church which onely diuideth it selfe from the Communion of all other truely professed Christian Churches in the world the same is the most Schismaticall Church in the Christian
Dominion therefore both Regall Supremacie ouer Ecclesiastiques is in this Treatise defended by the confessed Examples of the first and best Christian Emperours and also the Ciuill Subiection of the Clergie vnto Them is iustified by the Confessed Obedience performed by the first and best Popes of the same Times After this Suruey thus taken of the Churches Christian in the Primitiue ages followeth a Contemplation of the State of Christendome as it is at this present wherein appeareth a world of Christian Churches of remote Nations reduced to these Generall appellations to wit Grecians Assyrians Aethiopians Aegyptians Armenians Russians with diuers other particular Churches for Time as ancient for Faith as fundamentall for Succession as Continuall and for the Profession thereof because daily suffering grieuous pressures and afflictions for the name of Christ as much or rather in that respect more constant than the Romanists haue bene for many ages All which notwithstanding the Romane Article of The Catholike Romane Church without which there is no Saluation stand as opposite to the Church of Rome contemning her Excommunications and abhorring Subiection vnto her as they euer did A perfect Argument of the Falsity Nullity and Impiety of that Romish Article which wee now impugne In the last place is presented the Separation of all Protestant Churches from the Church of Rome proouing from the Testimonies of diuerse Romish Writers the Beginning thereof to haue bene Iust and the Continuance Necessary Nor can they say that their Arguments for defence of that Romane Article although most specious are not answered which herein are iustly retorted vpon them As to call for the Names of any Protestants before LVTHER whose names they themselues could relate in Martyring of them As to Challenge those to haue broken their Vow in Departing from that Church namely a superstitious Vow which they did to preserue their Christian Vow ìn Baptisme which requireth sinceritie in the Faith· As to obiect Schisme vpon that Article of Necessary Subiection to the Romane Sea by which she her selfe diuiding her selfe from all Christian Churches in the world and all others from her selfe is prooued to be of all other the most Schismaticall As to impute vnto vs the guilt of Damning all our fore-Fathers by reason of that her former Article whereby are necessarily Damned most of the Christian Fathers Confessors and Martyrs of Primitiue Times besides the Innumerable professed Christians of Remote Nations as hath bene said yea and many Thousands moe who though otherwise Romish yet do not belieue all her Tridentine faith Not to speake of infinite numbers of PROTESTANTS farre more sincerely Professed in the Christian Faith than They Finally as to assume a Priuilege to her Romane See of not Erring albeit that Church is prooued to be of all Others most subiect to Errour and her Seate which is ROME to be the onely Citie prophesied off by the Spirit of God in Scripture accordingly as her owne Iesuites from the testimonies of Antiquity and the light of Gods word acknowledge themselues bound to belieue and professe is to become the Seate of ANTICHRIST The Manifestation of all which Points Most Renoumed Soueraigne I do subiect to your gratious Patronage not in any spirit of Malignancie to make the Schisme and breach which is now betweene Rome and Vs bigger which I intend to perswade against thorrow-out this Treatise by reueiling and remoouing the onely Bar and Partition-wall which is her Doctrine of Necessary Beliefe of the now Tridentine Creed and Article of Necessary Subiection to the Romane See the onely Hinderance of a free Generall Councell An Impiety and Perniciousnesse which was the very Cordolium of the most Iudicious of Kings your Maiesties late Father and our Soueraigne Lord and King IAMES of euer blessed and suruiuing Memorie in whose heart God had first imprinted that Blessed Motto of Christ BEATI PACIFICI before it was stamped in his Coine being euer desirous to keepe Ciuill Vnion Commerce and Contracts with Them with whom naythelesse the Case so standing He held it Impossible to haue any Spirituall Reconciliation Thus not doubting but that the Father's religious heart dwelleth in the Sonnes brest I pray GOD so still to protect your Maiestie in the Defence of that THE FAITH whereby your Throne may be established vpon earth and your Soule euerlastingly blessed in heauen Your Maiesties most Humble Subiect and Chaplaine THO. COVEN LICHâ— TO ALL ROMISH PRIESTS WHETHER Iesuites or Others of the English Seminaries where-soeuer Mercy Truth and Peace in CHRIST IESVS AS some of weake and queazie stomackes abhorre to receiue any Wholsome Potion because the very name of Physick is loathsome vnto them so might I doubt that this Salutation wishing you Mercie Truth and Peace in Christ whereby I doe inuite you to the Reading of this ensewing Treatise may be reiected by you because the Title therof may seeme odious vnto you but that I haue Considered that I write not vnto your Laicks men commonly of weake Apprehension and voide of the Infusion of so much as necessary knowledge of Christianity but vnto your selues called to the Order of Priest-hood and professed Aduocates for defence of the Romane Church quà ROMANE And now hauing said but thus much I seeme to heare Some of you inueighing against me and saying This is a bold Assumption or rather an impudent and impious Presumption of this Heretike so to charge our Romane Church with an Imposture in this Arch-Article of her Romane Faith which Church all the world knoweth to be as the Fathers of the Councell of Trent not long since defined for birth and breeding the Mother and for Direction and Dominion the Mistresse of all other Churches Christian. Neuerthelesse dares this busie Vndertaker attempt to perswade vs that the Church of Rome is Schismaticall and her Article concerning the Vniuersality of the same Church Imposterous neuer considering that ancient and Catholike Theoreme Hee hath not God for his Father who hath not the Church for his Mother How then can this Perswader make good his Assertion I were certainely Witlesse if after I had professed so much I should not expect such broad language from Some of you which I haue formerly receiued And as faithlesse should I be both to God and you if endeuouring as I am Commanded To haue compassion of some pulling them out of the fire I should not patiently suffer words of disgust and disaffection from you which I ought willingly to suffer for you and your â—pirituall good Or else if because some are fierce I had almost said furious in oppugning the Truth I should therefore bee more remisse to defend it especially seeing that which was the saying of an Antient and holy Pope Qui alterum ab errore non reuocat Seipsum errare demonstrat Neither yet can I conceiue how you can iustly decline the Reading of this Tractate by reason of a fowerfold Obligation that lyeth vpon you The first is that diuine Direction giuen especially
so seeming members of the Catholike Church yet are they no true and proper but onely equiuocall and titularie members of Christs Church like as spittle flegme and other excrementall humours are said to be in the body of a man whereof notwithstanding they are no essentiall parts All this agreeth with the Doctrine of ancient Fathers among whom Saint Ambrose All that are in the Church saith he fight for Christ intimating that the wicked fight against Christ. Likewise Saint Augustine The Catholike Church saith he is so called because it is in euery part perfect And againe Onely the Predestinate cannot be diuided from this body Whereunto the aboue-cited testimonies of Hierome and Chrysostome doe consent And in this Harmonie Clemens Alexandrinus will be knowne to beare a part calling the Catholike Church a Catalogue of iust men according to the purpose of God and a Congregation of the Predestinate Of which Church of Christ as his Spouse S. Bernard arguing from the Apostle inferreth as a thing without doubt that the Elect are the Church of Christ. Lastly lest that we may seeme to neglect the iudgement of the Fathers of the Romane Church and the Bishops of Rome Pope Gregorie for his singular wisedome and deuotion calâ—ed The Great obseruing a proportion betwixt Christ the Head and his Mysticall Body called the Catholike Church As Christ saith he was coÌ„ceiued by the holy Ghost so is his Church which is his body replenished with the same spirit and addeth that All the Elect are within the compasse of this Church and all Reprobates without it The very same doctrine for which Iohn Husse was condemned in the Councell of Constance So that Augustine Chrysostome Ambrose Bernard yea and Pope Gregorie himselfe may seeme to haue beene condemned and burned with him Thus much be said in Thesi to prooue that the Catholike Church as it is considered in the essence thereof is an inuisible Obiect of Faith and not a visible Obiect of Sence CHALLENGE AN Addition which hath no other consideration of the Church than as it is Visible cannot be a Declaration of a Church which is in the essence thereof considered as Inuisible But the Addition of the word ROMANE is vsed only in consideration of the Church as it is Visible that is consisting of a number of persons visibly knowne and discerned to professe the Christian Faith and subiect to a Visible Romane Pope as the visible and essentiall Head of the same Church So as to vse the words of your Cardinall Bellarmine If wicked and carnall Professors are not to be esteemed properly but equiuocally and onely in name the members of the Catholike Church then must it follow What Heare I beseech you the Consequence of your Cardinall that a wicked Pope cannot be the Head of the Church So he But that all carnall Professors of the Catholike Faith are no essentiall members of the Catholike Church mentioned in the Apostles Creed you haue heard it already prooued by plaine places of Scriptures by the expresse iudgement of ancient Fathers by your owne Confessions by the nature of Faith which beleeueth that which it seeth not yea and by the tenure of the Apostles Creed which teacheth vs to beleeue with a diuine Faith onely Them to be infallibly the members of this Church who as it is in the Creed can Beleeue according to the Article to obtaine Remission of sinnes in this life and after death Life euerlasting Whilest that therefore you doe discerne the Catholike Church by the eye so farre onely as it is visible Subiect to one visible Head the Pope who may happen to be as All of you will confesse as wicked and monstrous in his life as any in the line of Caiphas as desperate in his death as Iudas and after as damned in hell as that Glutton in the Gospel who cried out I am tormented in this flame and seeing that the profession of the Church as it is onely Visible and an obiect of sence can be no true Declaration or Exposition of an Article signifying the Church of Christ as it is also and that more principally Inuisible it plainely appeareth from these Premises that your word ROMANE depraueth the Article of the Apostles Creed by incorporating the limbes of Sathan together with the vitall members of Christ in that one mysticall body which is his Catholike Church and consequently that you haue forfeited your Head of the Romane Church in euery damned Pope that hath at any time professed that Romane Chaire The third Argument to proue that the Addition of the word ROMANE cannot be any Declaration of the Catholike Church mentioned in the Apostles Creed is in respect of the visible parts of the same SECT 6. TWo sorts of persons there are within your Romane Church which you your selues denie to bee any visible members thereof one is of them you call Catechumenists who as it falleth out in the Conuersion of Heathen and Iewes before they can be baptized are exercised in learning the principles and rudiments of Faith The other are Excommunicates who by the publike censure of your Church happen to bee vniustly Anathematized and disioyned from all Communion therewith Of the Catechumenists who are instructed in the Catholike Faith and bring forth the fruits of Repentance and yet depart this life without Baptisme you pronounce saying that They are saued albeit they are not in the Church In like manner haue you resolued concerning such kinde of Excommunicates who may happen to be vniustly Excommunicated saying that Because the Church cannot iudge of things that are secret it may happen that some are vniustly Excommunicated and excluded out of the visible Church and neuerthelesse receiued of God and certainely saued So you We cannot but approue of both your Positions as hauing Instances in both for in the number of Catechumenists is reckoned that Christian Emperour Valentinian a zealous Professor and Patrone of the Catholike Faith who died vnexpectedly before he was baptized whose Exequies and funeralls notwithstanding Saint Ambrose did solemnize and in his Sermon did honour the memory of that renoumed Emperour as one who had beene as the same Father speaketh Indewed with the spirit of God in his life-time and now after his death aduanced vnto ioyes eternall Touching Excommunicates we reade in the Gospell of the Blind man healed by Christ and by the malice of the Priests against Christ Cast out of their Synagogue whom neuerthelesse Christ did visit and take into his grace protection and Saluation Tell vs now if your Romane Church be that Catholike Church without which as you beleeue none can be saued how then it commeth to passe that these two sorts of Christians are saued albeit they be without the said Romane Church Your Iesuites doe answer that Such Excommunicates although they are not of the Communion which maketh a man to be properly of the Visible Church yet neuerthelesse they are saued by their
desire to be vnited with the Church So they which is full enough for your fuller conuiction CHALLENGE IF without the Romane Church some may bee actually saued then the Addition of the word ROMANE caonot be a Declaration of The Catholike Church without which there is no Saluation But the Romane Church is such without which as you confesse some may be actually saued Ergo the Addition of the word ROMANE to the Catholike Church cannot bee a Declaration thereof For although All agree in this as your selues confesse that Without the Catholike Church there is no saluation yet haue you confessed two sorts of Christian Professors namely Excommunicates and Catechumenists to bee actually saued albeit no Members of your Romane Church As for being Saued only by Desire or Vâ—we of being in your Church it is but a wilde and extrauagant piece of learning in the iudgement of your owne Iesuite But we will reason the matter with you Know you not that the Church Catholike is compared by Saint Petor to the Arke of Noah that as all which were within that Arke were saued all without it were drowned although they Desired neuer so much to haue been admitted into the Arke so it is in the Church Catholike whosoeuer are essentiall members thereof cannot possibly perish and contrarily whoseuer is not a reall and vitall member therein cannot but perish The fourth Argument to proue that the Addition of the word ROMANE cannot be a Declaration of the Catholike Church mentioned in the Apostles Creed In respect of the Diuine Authority of the Article SECT 7. IT hath alwaies beene the Profession of the Catholike Church it selfe not to esteeme any Doctrine an Article of Faith which is not constituted and to speake with better Emphasis Created by Diuine authority This being a Truth vniuersally consented vnto you if you will make good the Addition of the word ROMANE to the Article of the Catholike Church are iustly challengable either to proue that the Romane Church as it is the Romane Church was constituted by diuine Authority to be rather than any other transcendently THE Catholike Church or else to confesse your Article of Romane Church without which there is no Saluation to be but new and consequently a Doctrine rather of fancie than of Faith The necessity of this Consequence was well foreseene of those your Popes who were the first Authors and Patrons of this Article and therefore haue published in their writings and decrees that The Romane Church was by Diuine Authority ordained to be the Catholike Church This Question dependeth vpon the reason of the Pope of Rome his succession to Saint Peter to wit whether it were allotted to the Bishop of Rome to succed Saint Peter as Head of the Catholike Church by the institution of Christ or else by the fact of Saint Peter himselfe For if it were by command and appointment of Christ then it must be allowed as a Diuine Ordinance but if it issued onely from the fact of Saint Peter then by your owne Confessions it is no doctrine of Faith This being the state of the Question as it is propounded by your selues hereunto we desire to receiue your owne Resolutions To this purpose when wee consult with your choisest Doctors as namely Bellarmine Suarez Soto Paludanus Bannes Augustinus Triumphus Cordubensis Armachanus Waldensis and Others they that speake more ingenuously doe freely grant that the pretended Pontificall Dignity Romane as it is Romane is not from diuine authority because onely from the fact of Peter They that are more affectionate to the Romane See although they attribute it to the Institution of Christ yet dare they not say that this is to be beleeued vpon certainty of Faith but onely as a matter Probable and Coniecturall Nay if you shall haue but a little patience vntill we descend to that point you shall perceiue by the iudgement of the Catholike Church it selfe in a generall Councell of primatiue Antiquity that The Prerogatiue which the Church of Rome then had was but from Humane authority CHALLENGE AN Addition standing onely vpon Probability and Coniecture cannot be infallibly a Declaration of an Article of Faith founded vpon Diuine and Infallible authority But your Addition of the word ROMANE standeth as you confesse vpon probability and Coniecture onely Ergo it cannot be an infallible Declaration of the Apostolicall Article The Catholike Church without which there is no saluation And consequently your word ROMANE added to the Christian Creed thereby to make the Romane Church The Catholike Church without which there is no saluation must necessarily be iudged Antichristian The fift Argument to proue that the Addition of the word ROMANE cannot be a Declaration of the Article The Catholike Church as it is Visible in respect of the Time past whereunto the word CATHOLIKE hath relation euen before Rome was founded a Church SECT 8. WHo knoweth not that your Addition of the word ROMANE vnto the Apostolicall Article of The Catholike Church is to infuse an opinion into the mindes of Christians that Catholike and Romane are termes vniuocall and conuertible which is as much as to say that whensoeuer there was a Romane Church it was The Catholike Church and whensoeuer there was a Catholike Church it was Romane Scarce shall you finde any Romish Professor especially among the vulgar who haue not this conceit of that Article of Christian Faith Notwithstanding your more learned Doctors are not ignorant that this Apostolicall Article The Catholike Church was published before that in Rome was founded a Church and that the Apostolicall Church it selfe was Catholike before the Article of the Catholike Church was proclaimed Which name CATHOLIKE or vniuersall was first attributed to the Church Christian To distinguishit as you know from the Synagogue of the Iewes which was circumscribed and confined to one only nation whereas the Church Catholike is not limited to any one place but is as broad in succession of place as is the whole world Now concerning the Catholike Church in the time of the Apostles Card. Baronius whose History you honour as an heauenly Lampe or torch telleth you that The Creed of the Apostles wherein is the Article of The Catholike Church was composed by them in the yeere of Christ XLIV and that the Catholike Church was extant sometime before this Article was put into the tenor of the Creed Which he demonstrateth from the act of Saint Peter who in the yeere of our Sauiour XXXIX is found Visiting the Churches in Pontus Galatia Cappadocia Asia c. That the same Apostle Saint Peter Constituted the Church of Antioch in the same yeere and after that he had gouerned the See of Antioch seuen yeeres hee in the yeere XLV translated his See from Antioch to Rome Your other Chronologer Genebrard yeeldeth vnto vs eleuen yeeres betweene the Composing of the Apostles Creed and the first foundation of the Church of Rome by the Apostle Saint
respect of other Churches as by seuerall Instances will clearely appeare The first Instance of Mother-hood before Rome is in the most ancient Church of Hierusalem SECT 5. EVe was not more truely named the Mother of all liuing than the Church of Hierusalem may be said to haue beene the Mother of all Churches beleeuing In which respect the whole Christian world hath giuen vnto her the due and honourable Title of Mother-hood For almost a thousand and 300 yeeres agoe an hundred and fiftie Orthodoxe Fathers assembled in a Councell at Constantinople acknowledged as you know that Hierusalem was the first Church which to vse the words of Saint Hierome engendred all the Churches of the world After in the daies of Saint Augustine when certaine Heretikes refused to haue Communion with Hierusalem because our Lord Christ was Crucified in that Citie that learned Father did both wisely and wittily confute them No maruell saith he if you are cut off from the Church who hate that roote Hierusalem where the Church had her originall and whither the holy Ghost was first sent Another time the same Father being opposed by Petilian a Donatist and asked Whence first he had his Communion Answereth that he had it originally from Hierusalem Could Saint Augustine in this Question about the Mother-Church against an Heretike haue so negligently passed by Rome without sacrilege if the Faith of the Church of Christ in his daies had beene to beleeue that Romane Church to haue beene then the sole Soueraigne Mother-Church ouer all Churches in the world as your Councell of Trent hath so often decreed The second Instance of Mother-hood is in the Church of Caesarea SECT 6. THe Church of Hierusalem did beare as her first daughter the Church of Caesarea the Metropolis of Palestina which afterwards was made the Patriarchall Seate within that Prouince The Motherhood of which Church S. Basil and S. Nazianzene did both proclaime and preferre before Rome as by their owne testimonies may appeare We must haue ample estimation say They of euery Church as the body of Christ but especially of this our Church of Caesarea which the Christian Common-Weale doth obserue as the Circumference doth a center From which place meaning after Hierusalem the Gospell first arose and passed through the World So they What greater Encomium would you if you could passe vpon your Church of Rome than by instiling her the Mother-Church to account her as the Center and call all other Churches as her Circumferences Which Attributes those Orthodoxe Fathers would not haue ascribed to Caesarea if in their Faith the Church of Rome had in their daies had the Prerogatiue of the Mother-Church ouer all other Churches in the world The third Instance of Mother-hood before Rome is in the Church of Antioch SECT 7. ANtioch was a Church by your owne Confessions diuers yeeres when as yet the Church of Rome was without note or name a meere non-ens in Christianity Of which Church of Antioch Saint Chrysostome out of the Acts This our Citie of Antioch saith he is most deare to Christ for its ' Progenitors where Saint Peter did first preach which first receiued as an admirable Crowne the name of CHISTIANS So he Whether therefore you shall be pleased to call the Church of Antioch Mother or because the name of Christians was first deriued from her God-Mother to all other Churches after her sure it is that shee may iustly claime the Birth-right before Rome Which Saint Chrysostome defended now euen when the Church of Rome and that worthily was famous and renouned in the world The fourth Instance of Mother-hood before Rome is in the Greeke Church in Generall SECT 8. THe Easterne Greeke Churches themselues challenged this Prerogatiue in their Letters to Pope Iulius to wit that They came from the East that first brought Christian Religion to Rome But none neede require a more prompt or large acknowledgement of the antiquity of the Greeke Church in respect of the Latine than that which was publikely pronounced by your owne Byshop of Bitontum in a solemne assembly of Byshops euen in your Councell of Trent briefly thus O Greece our Mother saith he to whom the Latine Church oweth all that shee hath So he We reade of the Crosse of Christ that it had an Inscription written on it in Hebrew Greeke and Latine The same order may we obserue in the principall propagation of Churches in the Christian world the Hebrew Church before the Greeke and the Greeke Church constituted before the Latine Hierusalem before Antioch and Antioch with others before Rome Wherefore that you should make Rome the Mother-Church ouer all others which oweth to the Greeke Church no lesse than All that shee hath is in true apprehension a wonderfull Imposture The fift Instance of Mother-hood before Rome is in the Britaine Church SECT 9. YOur Church is in the next place to be prouoked and conuinced by a remote Nation of Brittaine which by your owne accompts receiued the Gospell Cardinall Baronius and your Iesuite Suarez acknowledging thus much out of most ancient Records By the preaching of Ioseph of Arimathea in the 35 yeere of Christ two yeeres before Peter did found the Church of Antioch where hee was seated seuen yeeres before he founded the Church of Rome That is to say in Brittaine was planted a Church nine yeeres before Rome and is hereby so much her elder Sister CHALLENGE THus much being granted by the most zealous Aduocates for your Romane Church giue vs leaue to reason the matter with you in few words You still defend that the Church of Rome is the Mother-Church of all other Churches of Christ and that not as a Case of probability but as an Article of Faith nor this in any implicit beleefe but such without which none can be saued nor yet in the ordinarie manner of Profession but by your Priests and Ecclesiastikes vnder the Forme of an oath Ought you not therefore to haue stood vpon infallible principles for the making good of this Conclusion than which you haue not any one more vulgar pressing and binding among all the Tenents in your Romane Church And yet behold an opinion of Peter's Ordaining the other Apostles Bishops impugned by your owne most iudicious Diuines and this grounded vpon a bastard Epistle of Anacletus Next that the inference from the same opinion is a Consequence which must prooue the Sister Rome to haue begotten her Sisters or rather indeed her Mothers and Aunts namely the Churches of Hierusalem Caesarea Antioch whole Greece together with our Isle of Brittaine And all this against the confessed euidence of Scripture and the expresse testimonie of Reuerend Antiquity which attributed that Mother-hood to the forenamed Churches before Rome Wherefore we can doe no lesse than hisse at your illogicall Consequences blush at the impudence of your Aduocates abhorre the periurie of your Priests Iesuites and all Ecclesiastikes and pittie the miserable thraldome of your
so behaued himselfe among them that he might seeme in a manner to haue neglected his Pastorship by carrying himselfe as a Brother and Equall with them and not as either Head or Rector ouer them So he And he giueth you a Reason hereof for If Peter saith he had written as a Pope then might he be thought to haue published rather Pontificall than Diuine Lawes c. Which is no more in effect but that which a French Lawyer hath said before him namely that In the Apostles time as often as any was ordained Bishop or Deacon or any thing was to be decreed which appertained to the Church Peter neuer tooke that vpon himselfe but permitted it to the whole Church So hee How then shall any imagine that you can truely obiect any one act of Peter which might but probably proue his Dominion and Iurisdiction ouer the other Apostles as the Pope challengeth to doe ouer all other Bishops seeing that you are constrained to grant that he made himselfe Equall with them so farre as that he might seeme in a sort to haue neglected his Pastorship Although indeede this could not Saint Peter doe without exceeding iniurie to his place and Gouernment if he had any such because it belongeth to euery one in his degree to maintaine and magnifie the dignitie of his Ministrie as Saint Paul teacheth saying I will magnifie my office inasmuch as I am Doctor of the Gentiles Vpon which Text Pope Gregory collecteth a generall lesson for the defence of his owne Iurisdiction The Apostle saith hee teacheth vs so to carrie humilitie in our heart that we doe keepe and preserue the dignitie of that order whereunto we are called So he CHALLENGE WHat shall we say then will you haue vs beleeue that Peter held his whole Monarchie for so you call it which he had ouer the Apostles for the space of fifteene yeeres without any expression of any of those Notes of Catholike Iurisdiction which you account to be proper vnto Papall Monarchie ouer all Bishops and Pastors As for Example Not the Crowne vpon his head to shew his Empire nor the Miter to shew his Pastorall Dominion ouer the other Apostles No Legate à latere to carrie his Mandates no person admitted a pride which Saint Peter abhorred to kisse his feet No one Canon of directing them No Claime or yet Admittance of any Appeale from them No Reseruation of any great Case as by speciall Prerogatiue proper to himselfe such as you attribute to the Pope to wit of Admitting any out of the Dioces of another of Absoluing those that are Excommunicate by another of Canonizing Saints of Confirming Synods of Granting plenarie Indulgences of Pardoning Simonie and almost an hundred the like sinnes Teach vs this when you can perswade your selues that there euer was Temporall Monarch diligent in the Execution of his office that would neuer be distinguished from his Nobles either by his Guard or Coine or Habit or Commands or publike Edicts and Constitutions or at least by some one Note and Character of Imperiall eminencie and Authoritie I onely adde making bold to aske you a Question If that the Addition of the word ROMANE to the article of the Catholike Church be so necessary for the directing of the faith of Christians to the acknowledgement of the Seat of Saint Peter at Rome as the infallible ground of their faith and center of their Saluation why within the whole seauen yeares during which time as you say Saint Peter had his Seat at Antioch before it was translated to Rome cannot you finde in all Antiquitie the Addition of the word ANTIOCHIAN and the like Article of The Antiochian Catholike Church without vnion and subiection whereunto there is no saluation Farre be it from vs to thinke that the blessed Apostle Saint Peter who was caught of our Lord that The Catholike Church wheresoeuer for Place or whensoeuer for Time was built vpon the Rocke of the Confession of Christ the Sonne of God should euer haue entertained such a fancie of confining the supreme residence of Gods infallible spirit to any one singular Place Thus much of Saint Peter himselfe We proceed to the Pope That Saint Peter neuer beleeued the Priuileges which he receiued from Christ by the obiected Scriptures to be deriued from himselfe and conferred vpon any Pope SECT 6. NEuer had we heard you alleage any of these Scriptures to make Peter such a Rocke as must signifie a predominancie ouer all other Apostles except you had sought out of that Rocke to carue a Pope who should likewise haue a transcendent power ouer all other Bishops But seeing that as hath beene prooued the primitiue Peter had no such Prerogatiue surely your deriuatiue Peter must needs proue a Nullity But to the point The first Scripture Luke 22. CHRIST said indeed directly to S. Peter I haue prayed for thee that thy Faith faile not wherefore thou being conuerted strengthen thy Brethren Which we confesse doth signifie as great a priuilege granted to S. Peter as any mortall man can desire to enioy namely an infalllible assurance of sauing grace in this world and of saluation it selfe after his departure out of this life Matter we say of Saluation nothing of Dominion and that also proper to the primitiue person of Saint Peter but making nothing for any person deriuatiue and Successor of his be he Pope or whosoeuer If you could proue this we should need no more for our satisfaction Christ saith your Cardinall obtained two Priuileges for S. Peter in promising that his Faith should not faile and that he should neuer depart from the true Faith in himselfe the second that he should not teach others any thing contrary to the true Faith Thus of Saint Peter How can you deriue any part of this from Saint Peter to the Pope The first of these saith he peraduenture doth not but the second without all doubt redoundeth to his Successors So he Which is so vndoubtedly an vnconscionable Answer that it is subiect to a threefold Confutation the first is by retorting the Cardinal 's owne Assertion vpon himselfe for whereas your Parisian Doctors will haue Peter in his answer to Crist to haue beene the figure of the Church of Christ and not the sole Gouernor thereof himselfe the same your Cardinall will needs confute that Glosse in this manner Because Christ saith he did expresse one singular person saying Simon Simon adding the Pronoune of the second person in these words I haue prayed for THEE that THY Faith faile not and therefore THOV being conuerted strengthen THY Brethren Surely if he had spoken of the whole Church he would haue said I haue prayed for YOV that YOVR Faith faile not So he Which is a true and sound Collection indeed and by the Law of Retorsion confirmeth our defence that this Scripture doth not intend any other Prerogatiue than that which was onely proper to that Thou Simon and I haue prayed
vexed with false Apostles who as Saint Hierome you know commenteth Affirmed that Peter Iames and all the Churches of the Iewes did mingle the Ceremoniall Law and Gospell together and all to this end that they might lessen and vilifie the authoritie of S. Paul in respect of them as though they had bene the Disciples of Christ and he the Disciple of the Apostles Hereupon Saint Paul who was otherwise the most humble among men in so much that he standing vpon comparison would be held the Greatest but yet of sinners and The least of all the Apostles notwithstanding when it stood him vpon to maintaine his Calling which he had from Christ against all malicious Detractors he professeth saying In as much as I am an Apostle of the Gentiles 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I magnifie mine office So that vpon a Compulsarie comparison prouoked by the Calumniation of others he esteemed it no arrogancie but direct iustice to auouch his owne worthinesse for the aduancing of the worke of his Ministrie A long time after the exercise of his Apostleship he would not Go to Hierusalem to Peter or any of the Apostles lest he might haue seemed to haue bene authorized by them yet three yeares after that he taketh a iourney thither To see Peter doubtlesse for honor sake as one in order of Apostleship most eminent but this he did voluntarily in discretion and brotherly communion and not in subiection as the Context sheweth Foureteene yeares also after this he maketh a second voyage to Ierusalem where he meeteth with Peter and others What then I conferred or communicated vnto them saith he that Gospell which I preached It is one thing to conferre saith Saint Hierome another thing to learne for among them that conferre there is Equalitie We heare not as yet of any authotitie which he receiued either from Peter alone or ioyntly together with the College of the other Apostles or of any thing that might betoken his subiection No he vtterly disclaimeth this for speaking of the Chiefest he saith Those who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing vnto me NOTHING namely Neither concerning doctrine nor authoritie as very well saith Aquinas In a word I saith Saint Paul am not inferiour vnto the chiefe of the Apostles What then obtained Paul of Peter and of the other chiefe Apostles Heare S. Paul himselfe They gaue vnto me the right hand of fellowship which was onely a testimonie of Communion in one Profession and Apostleship no imposition of subministration or subjection Hitherto we haue kept in the Negatiue of his not Inferioritie but Saint Paul doth further instance in the Affirmatiue of his Equalitie They saw that the Gospell of the vncircumcision was committed vnto me as the Gospell of the Circumcision was vnto Peter Where to seeke no further than your Rhemists Notes It is plaine by this place and others that to them that is Peter and Paul as the most renouned Apostles the charge of all Nations was giuen as diuided into two parts that is Iewes and Gentiles So they Their Dioces therefore was diuided yet not exclusiuely for the authoritie of the Apostles was vnlimited and often did as well Peter notwithstanding this diuision preach to the Gentiles as S. Paul to the Iewes but yet differently namely so that the ordinarie course of their Ministration was distinguished Peter to the Iewes and Paul to the Gentiles which was of infinite extent larger than the other In which respect Saint Chrysostome doth not sticke to say that The Vniuersall dispensation was committed to Saint Paul I. CHALLENGE from Reason IN all this we see not in Saint Paul any acknowledgement of Subiection or Substitution to Saint Peter but a plaine Plea of Equalitie or else tell vs what Pope since Gregorie the first would not hold it a Derogation from his Popedome to heare any Bishop in the Church stand in Contestation and say that The Pope could adde nothing to his authoritie nor that he was any whit inferiour to the chiefe of all the Bishops in Rome among whom the Pope himselfe was one What boldnesse and indeed contumely would this be iudged not onely to make many Chiefes with your Monarch but also to account himselfe Nothing inferior to the Chiefe of them Adde hereunto his next Assumption that he had as good and absolute right in his Dioces as the Pope had in his Your Iesuite Azorius saith that When there were two Emperours one in the East the other in the West both of them holding equall authoritie throughout the whole Empire it could not be but the authoritie of the one must needs diminish the authoritie of the other in some part and yet neither should be subiect to the other So he And indeed it could not otherwise be Neuer was there heard of Monarch as you instile the Pope in Imperio Diuiso that is in an Empire diuided in an equalitie with any other For Diuision and Equalitie is of moe whereas Monarchie can be but of one So impossible it is that Saint Paul should haue bene of the now Romane Faith concerning Subiection to the Pastor of the Romane Church II. CHALLENGE from the Fathers MVch time need not be spent in collecting the Testimonies of Antiquitie among whom Saint Ambrose saith that Paul was not lesse in dignitie than Peter Saint Maximus that Whether Paul or Peter were to be preferred it is vncertaine Chrysostome saith Paul that I say no more was equall to Peter Saint Hierome The titles of these two Apostles are equall saith he they are Chiefe of the Church S. Basil They are the Pillars of the Church Eucherius Peter and Paul two Princes of the Christians You will not we presume so much preiudice these Fathers as to thinke that they could not discerne betweene a Monarch such as you held Saint Peter to haue bene ouer all the other Apostles and a Subiect or so vniust as to haue thus equalled these Two if they had beleeued All the Apostles to haue bene subiect to the Dominion and Iurisdiction of Saint Peter much lesse could they haue attributed to S. Paul Titles of so great eminence as to instile him One To whom was committed the administration of the whole Church and One obeying the gouernment of the Church Vniuersall and One made the Head of Nations Saint Pauls Comparison of Others with S. Peter against the pretended Primacie of Peter his Iurisdiction ouer the other Apostles SECT 10. FIrst Saint Paul distinguisheth Iames Peter and Iohn from the other Disciples and ioyneth them in one Chiefedome among themselues saying I conferred with them of reputation and againe in the title They that seemed to be Pillars and yet againe They that were Chiefe of the Apostles Lastly his last vale with them They gaue to me the right hand of societie and fellowship Ergo he accounted them Equall in authoritie
That which we now contend for in the Popes of Rome may be cleared by an example of him that is called Emperour of Rome who because hee hath neither a foot of possession in Rome nor in the Territories thereof nor yet any professed Subiect inhabiting therein but the whole Princedome is belonging to the Pope your owne Diuines hold it a kinde of Soloecisme to name any at this day The Romane Emperour Therefore to alleadge a few of many that may be produced Lyra The Empire of Rome saith he hath for a long time beene without an Emperour Faber What obedience I pray you saith he doth Rome yeeld to her Monarch meaning the Emperour So to Now saith he is that temporall Dominion of the Citie of Rome ceased and your Iesuite Salmeron The Romane Emperour saith hee was ouerthrowne long agoe II. CHALLENGE THe Romish Babylon then by the Reuelation of Saint Iohn is that Citie of Rome whose place and people must be destroyed No people can be called Romane without they haue relation to Rome nor any people called The Church of Rome except they be Professors of the faith in Rome Therefore Saint Iohn prophecying of these things could not but beleeue that before the end of the world that Church which is now called The Church of Rome shall depart from the faith euen because this Departure must be from the sincere doctrine and worship of God vnto errour and Idolatrie Oh! that this were not at this day a iust Cause to challenge euery one to Come out of Babylon Both which we shall be ready in due time to proue by as true grounds as any haue hitherto beene deliuered That Saint Iohn's faith did not conceiue the now pretended Monarchie of the Pope aboue all other Bishops and Pastors in the Catholike Church SECT 16. WHat that Papall Monarchie is in your faith and how it is deriued we haue heard namely that because Saint Peter was the Vicar of Christ vpon earth as his ordinary Pastor ouer all the other Apostles therefore the Successors of Saint Peter in the same See are of the same authoritie and Iurisdiction ouer the whole Church of Christ and euery member thereof Hence issueth the Article of your now Romane faith that Without obedience and subiection to the Pope as the Catholike Bishop of the Catholike Church None can be saued The meditation vpon this Article begetteth a Probleme viz. whether Saint Iohn the Euangelist who liued 20. yeares after Saint Peter were indeede subordinate and subiect to the Iurisdiction of Linus or Cletus the immediate Successours of Saint Peter Either Saint Iohn was subiect to the Pope or he was not What say you It seemeth vnto mee saith your Iesuite that the Apostles who suruiued Peter were subiect to the Pope because the power of the Pope was alwayes ordinary and to continue in the Church Haue you any ground for this I cannot remember saith hee that I haue read in any Author any thing of this point So he CHALLENGE SAint Paul as hath beene proued reckoned these Three Peter Iames and Iohn equally Columnas that is The Pillars and as it were equally the three Chiefe Worthies among the Disciples who concerning the offices of their Apostleship receiued from Christ as your Cardinall Cusanus hath taught you Euery way an equall charge And without Controuersie the faith of Iohn and Paul was both the same Is it then possible for a Christian man to thinke that Iohn being that Apostle who was immediately chosen by Christ and equall to Peter should thinke himselfe subiect to Linus the Successour of Peter that he who for his sublimitie of knowledge in the mysteries of Christ was called The Diuine who was made the Pen-man of the holy Ghost in writing the Gospell and one for whose infallibility in the truth Christ offered vp praiers to his Father ought hee now to submit his iudgement vnto Linus one of the line of those Popes whereof Some haue beene by Generall Councels and by Popes themselues iudged for Heretikes And againe that Iohn who at the time of the Supper of our Lord leaned vpon the brest of our Sauiour when Peter you know was but next after Iohn should now prostrate himselfe before Linus the Successor of Peter and if this Ceremonie had beene so old to doe him the honour as to Kisse his feet And not this onely but to beleeue this Article of due Subiection to the Pope Without which none can be saued which indeede is more than to Kisse the feet or to licke the dust of the feet of Saint Peter's Successor Sure we are that the Disciples of Saint Iohn to wit the Christians of the Easterne Church were not of your beliefe who to adhere to the orders of Saint Iohn refused to obserue the Easter of the Latine Church which they would not haue done if they had beleeued Saint Iohn to haue beene subiect to those Romane Bishops or yet to Peter himselfe Before we can conclude you are to be exhorted to obserue the Iesuiticall front of Suarez who in a matter of this nature concerning Saluation durst make this Conclusion of the Apostles Subiection and subordination vnder a Pope namely as you haue heard him confesse without any Author besides himselfe Whereby you may discerne with what vntempered morter these men daube vp the Consciences of their Followers CHAP. V. That the Catholike and Apostolike Church of Christ it selfe at or about the Time of the foundation of the Church of Rome had no such Article of faith viz. The Catholike Romane Church without vnion wherewith there is no Saluation SECT 1. THe Churches vnto which Saint Paul writ for we name not the Romanes of whom wee haue intreated before were the Corinthians Galatians Ephesians Philippians Thessalonians and the dispersed Hebrewes As for the other Apostles Iames Peter Iohn Iude each one writ to Diuers those their Epistles which are intitled Catholike Epistles And the seauen Churches of Asia were they to whom the booke of the Apoealips or Reuelation was directed Among these the Apostles are instant and vrgent in inueying 1 against the Heresies of Iudaisme Saducisme of worshipping Angels 2 Against Apostasie and Antichristianitie 3 Against Diuisions and Schismes in the Church and abuse of Ecclesiasticall Orders therein And yet in all these there appeareth not any one Syllable or Iota to proue your Article of The Catholike Romane Church without vnion and subiection whereunto and to the Head thereof there is no saluation No nor yet so much as to intimate any one of the particles of this Article as first not to signifie that the Church of Rome was a Catholike much lesse THE Catholike Church as being in right which you say The Mother and Mistris of all others Not to note that in the conuincing of Heretikes Christians ought to looke as to their Cynosura to the Faith of the Romane Church nor that for the discouering
and auoiding of Antichrist Christians ought to subiect themselues to the Pope of Rome as the Vicar of Christ. Finally nor yet that for the preuenting of dissentions and Schismes in the Church Christians ought to adhere and to be vnited to the same Monarchicall Head of the same Romane Church All which those holy Apostles the faithfull Embassadours of our Lord Christ without Controuersie ought and would haue done if according to the now Romane Faith either the name CATHOLIKE had bene then Antonomastically to be appropriated to Rome or the Infallibilitie of Faith to be ascribed to the iudgement of her Bishop or that the Necessitie of Vnion and Subiection to the authoritie of the same Head had bene so necessarie as without which no Christian could be saued To begin at the word CATHOLIKE We desire to vnderstand why the Epistles of Iames and Iohn and Iude were called Catholike or Vniuersall as well as the two Epistles of Peter if the word Catholike were so proper to the Romane Chaire Seeing that the Epistle of Saint Iames and so of the rest was no more sent to or from Rome nor had any relation to Peter there than the Epistles of Peter had to Iames at Hierusalem Secondly why Paul was so sole as of himselfe to Anathemize the false Apostles saying If wee or an Angell from heauen preach any other Gospell vnto you let him be accursed or in admonishing the Irresolute saying Behold I Paul tell you and I testifie againe vnto you And that no otherwise than he did in absoluing the penitent Incestuous saying I haue pardoned him in the person of Christ that is to say As the Vicar of Christ as your Rhemists obserue in their Annotations vpon this place If so as you pretend The name of Vicar of Christ be wholly belonging to the Pope as an argument of his Succession from Saint Peter in the Monarchie ouer the whole Church But principally doth Saint Paul shew himselfe in preuenting and repressing of Schismes once among the people whom he will not haue to adhere to any one man no more to Cephas that is Peter than to Paul or Apollos Whereas your Roman Cephas would haue taught Saint Paul a contrarie lesson saying that They who adhere vnto Cephas cannot be called Schismatikes as those who hold of Apollos because Cephas was that ROCKE whereupon the Church was built and such a Visible Head is now as necessary on earth to auoide Schisme as to beleeue on Christ the inuisible Head now glorious in heauen Againe among the Ecclesiasticall Orders twice first to the Corinthians where he alleageth them thus First Apostles then Prophets after Doctors and accordingly to the Ephesians He gaue some Apostles and some Prophets and some Euangelists c. Here wee should haue had good reason to haue expected the mention of Saint Peter as the visible Head among the Apostles if we had bene of your Faith to beleeue that the Pope of Rome as Successor of Saint Peter is the Head of the visible Church and that therefore The vnion with the Bishop of Rome as the Head thereof is a true Note of the Church Whereby it may be infallibly discerned whether or no a Christian man be a member of the Catholike Church without which there is no Saluation Which what were it but to call into question the iudgement of Saint Paul the most profoundest Disputant that euer writ as though he had bene ignorant of the maine and onely Argument for the confuting of Schismatikes and auoyding of Schisme by keeping forsooth the Vnion with the Pope and Church of Rome As for the Seauen Churches in Asia vnto whom Saint Iohn writ concerning the dayes of Antichrist when the great Departure from the sincere Faith of Christ must be herein notwithstanding you could neuer yet find one particle to prooue either the Right of Monarchie in the Pope or Infallibilitie of his iudgement or Necessitie that the Faithfull be Vnited and Subiected vnto him But many Characters may you find at least of an Antichrist as well of his person in the Pope as you haue done of his particular Seate confessing ingenuously that it must be at Rome Saint Peter in his Catholike Epistle To the dispersed Christians in Pontus Galatia Cappadocia Asia Bithynia exhorting the Presbyters whom he after calleth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Superintendents or Byshops saith The Elders which are among you I exhort who am also an Elder Feede the flocke of God not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 domineiring ouer Gods heritage that when our chiefe Shepheard shall appeare c. What may be inferred from hence you may vnderstand in the third Challenge I. CHALLENGE NOne will make doubt but that the Churches to whom the Apostles haue written were of the same faith with their Teachers the holy Apostles and that therefore in the point of Heresie it was not more requisite that the Church of Thessalonîca should subscribe to the Faith of the Church of Rome than that the Romanes should be guided by the Faith of the Thessalonians or that in the point of Schisme the Church of Corinth should be compelled to keepe Vnion with the Church Romane more than the Romane with the Colossian or yet that among the Churches to whom the Catholike Epistles of Peter Iude Iohn and Iames were directed some should be thought to owe more Subiection to the Letters of Peter than to the other of Iames or Iohn Else would some Items haue bene giuen out to signifie your pretended respects due to the Romane Church especially euery one of them being required in your Faith vpon Necessitie of saluation All men would wonder for example sake that the Bishops of Italy being al within the Romane Iurisdiction should write letters farre and neare vpon all occasion of Heresie and Schisme to diuerse Churches within the same Romane Dioces and yet neuer make mention nay nor so much as giue intimation of the necessary dependance they haue and ought to acknowledge themselues to haue of the Pope and Sea of Rome II. CHALLENGE IF it had bene as manifestly reuealed by Saint Iohn that England was Prophesied off to be the Seate of Antichrist in the latter times as according to your Iesuites Expositions and Demonstrations he did of Rome in the word Babylon from whence all the faithfull are commanded to depart except they will be Partakers of her plagues sure we are that your Iesuites and Professors would neede no seueritie of Lawes to quit England and to abhorre it especially now when the Controuersie whether Antichrist be alreadie come is so daily and duly debated III. CHALLENGE SAint Peter albeit an Apostle of Iesus Christ yet in the exercise of his Iurisdiction in the ordaining the Bishops of Pontus Cappadocia and other Churches doth intitle himselfe A Fellow-Priest or Bishop a stile not to be found in your Popes Breues For we speake not now of termes of Humiliation as that of SERVVS SERVORVM but of Office and
words of Tert. your owne Beatus Rhenanus hath published as much as we can require Tertullian saith hee doth not confine the Catholike and Apostolike Church to one place and although hee giue an honourable testimonie to the Church of Rome yet did he not esteeme her so highly as we see her accounted of at this day He reckoneth her with other Churches yet doth not make her the onely Church but admonisheth his Readers as well to enquire what milke the Church of Corinth gaue as Rome So Rhenanus who addeth that If Tertullian were now aliue and should say so much hee could not escape without punishment Thus your Rhenanus whiles that hee had the vse of his tongue but since you haue Gagged him by your Index Ezpurgatorius a Booke which we may call the Martyrologe of many innocent bookes But no maruaile for this testimonie of Rhenanus was as a poyniard sticking fast in the very bowels of this Cause Notwithstanding Tertullian will be Tertullian still whom whosoeuer shall reade he will be able to auouch as much as Rhenanus hath obserued namely that Tertullian euen whilest hee was a true childe of the Church neuer allowed the Apostolike which we commonly call the Catholike Church to be appropriated vnto any one place nor had he further respect to Rome than he had to Corinth and other Apostolicall Churches which hee calleth Original Mother-Churches for directing of Christians in the Apostolike faith 4 Athanasius reckoneth vp to the Emperour Constantine the Churches that consented to the Councell of Nice thus The Churches of Spain of Britaine of France of whole Italie of Dalmatia without any precise mention of Rome otherwise than it was comprized in whole Italie A great Contempt doubtlesse if your Article had beene then hatch't because the Consent of Rome onely had been more perswasiue to the Emperour than all the rest 5 Vincentius Lirinensis likewise an ancient Father and greatly approued on all sides in his booke written in defence of the Catholike Truth against all prophane Nouelties aduiseth Christians to trie the Truth equally by the ioynt consent as well of the East as of the West-Church and to consult as well with Petrus Alexandrinus and Athanasius in the one Church as with Felix and Iulius Bishops of Rome in the other Concerning whom more hereafter 6 Saint Augustine against Iulian the Pelagian in the question of Baptisme speaking of Chrysostome the Bishop of Constantinople saith Farre be it from him that hee should dissent from his fellow-Bishops Innocentius Bishop of Rome Cyprian Bishop of Carthage Basil Bishop of Cappadocia Gregory Bishop of Nazianzum Hilary a French Bishop and Ambrose Bishop of Milan Is it possible that these orthodoxe Fathers should in this manner and vpon such occasions haue giuen the Bishop of Rome so many Mates in equalizing others with him if your Article of Monarchicall Dominion had entred into their breasts or braines The same comparisons proued by ancient Churches SECT 2. THe generall Councell of Constantinople in the East to make known their Consent in the Faith with the Church in the West doe endite an Epistle and inscribe it thus To their Reuerend brethren and fellowes as well to Damasus of Rome as to Ambrose of Milan and others The Church of Egypt gathered in Councell in their letters vnto the Emperour Leo professe Their Consent in the Catholike faith with the chiefe Priests in the Christian world naming as well Anatolius Bishop of Constantinople Basil Bishop of Antioch Iuuenall Bishop of Hierusalem as Leo Bishop of Rome The Decree of the Church of Carthage in her third Councell standeth thus It is decreed that we consult hereupon with our brethren Syricius viz. Bishop of Rome and Simplician viz. Bishop of Milane Not to omit how you confesse that The Bishops of Constantinople did sometime enioy the title of Vniuersall Bishops equally with the Bishops of Rome but this they did say you by permission of the Bishops of Rome and vpon conniuence Tell you this to them who know not that Maiestie brooking no Corriuall the Monarchie of Popes would neuer dispense or continue at any One vsurping equall Title of Monarchicall Iurisdiction which is as much as to snatch their Papall Miters from of their heads CHALLENGE THe distinction of East and West is not more familiarly knowne to euery vulgar man than is the distinction of East and West-Church by euery babe in Historicall learning vnderstanding thereby that they were anciently held as two generall parts of the Catholike Church and not as one subordinate to another as will afterwards more plainly appeare Againe vnlesse you shall except against the most ancient and vniuersally approued Instructors and guides of the Catholike Church we must conclude that the East part of the world is not more opposite vnto the West than is your now Romane Article to wit The Catholike Romane Church contrary to Catholike Antiquitie Insomuch that as when Protestants are controlled condemned tormented or put to death for renouncing this your Article Ignatius Ireneus to omit the authoritie of Councels and Others Tertullian Athanasius Vinc. Lirinensis and Augustine may seeme to suffer in them because it may be said of the rest which your Rhenanus spake of one saying Tertullian if he were aliue should not escape vnpunished for such his Praescriptions So False and Imposterous is your Article viz. The Catholike Romane Church as hauing Dominion ouer all Others CHAP. VIII Our third Argument taken from the iudgement of the Catholike Church it selfe in the first Six Generall Councels after the Apostles Besides a Seuenth and Eight Councell in Your estimation Generall SECT 1. EVery true Generall Councell you will esteeme to be the Representatiue Church Catholike than which after the euidence of diuine Scriptures the Oracles of God no better proofe can be required by the Professors of the Christian faith For this cause we hold it our duetie for your better satisfaction to giue you Instances in the first Six Generall Councels beginning at the first Generall Councell of Nice I. That the Beliefe of the Romish Article viz. The Catholike Romane Church without which c. damneth all the Catholike Fathers of the Councell of Nice and their Beleeuers SECT 2. THe first Generall Councell in Christianitie after the Synod of the Apostles was that famous first Councell of Nice consisting of CCCXVIII Bishops by whom were made two Decrees vtterly preiudiciall to the now Article of the Dominion of the Romane Church and Pope aboue all other Churches and their Bishops One is against the Appeales of persons Excommunicate in any Dioces vnto remote Churches which the Bishops of the Church of Africke in their Councell wherein Saint Augustine was an Actor did absolutely denie by virtue of the Canon of the Councell of Nice The second Instance in the sixt Canon of the same Nicene Synod decreeing thus That the Bishops of Alexandria should haue the Gouernment ouer Aegypt Lybia and Pentapolis
so they say Both by the Canons and also by your letters and both these had relation to another part of Reasons and inducements premised in that place And is not this then slie Sophistrie to conclude an whole from a Part Yea but the same Councell say that They durst not iudge Iohn the Bishop of Antioch and therefore reserued him to the iudgement of Pope Celestine which plainly sheweth the supreme authority of the Pope So you What signifie these words that They durst not iudge Iohn of Antioch why they do plainly relate in the same Epistle that they had already deposed him We haue say they deuested him of all his Sacerdotall power So after this referring him to the iudgement of the Pope That for so they say they might with lenity ouercome his rashnesse This was not to preferre him to another Censure for there had bene no lenity in that but to the aduise of Celestine that by his perswasion he might be first reclaimed from error and afterwards restored to his place For a further discouerie of the Ecclipse of the Conscience in your Cardinall let vs consider what Supreme authority he would insinuate to wit that if the Councell could not depose Nestorius Patriarch of Constantinople without the Popes Mandate nor durst depose Iohn Patriarch of Antioch but referred the Cause to the iudgement of the Pope the issue hereof must be directly this viz. That the Pope is absolutely aboue a Generall Councell as the Cardinall defendeth else-where This were a Supreme authority indeed but in truth it is a falshood and long since condemned as you know by your owne Councels of Constance and Basil for a flat Heresie Which your Doctors of Paris haue alwaies disclaimed as contrary to antiquity and which no Councell since the beginning of the Christian Faith did as yet expresly decree as your Doctor Stapleton a great Champion in this Cause doth not denie and therefore betaketh himselfe to the Late tacit and silent consent of the Doctors of your Church Was not this then more than boldnesse in your Cardinall to inferre this Supreme authority out of this Councell Our Opposition First this Councell called Celestine Bishop of Rome Fellow-Minister and did as you haue heard Excommunicate and depose the Patriarch of Antioch before they made any Relation thereof vnto Celestine the Bishop of Rome Ergo It did not acknowledge the now pretended Supreme authority and priuilege of the Pope which is to haue Cases of that nature soly Reserued to his owne Determination Secondly looke into the Councell it selfe and into the Epistle alleaged wherein concerning the points which Pope Celestine had constituted Wee say they haue iudged them to stand firme wherefore we agree with you in one sentence and doe hold them meaning Pelagius and others to be deposed Ergo Consent to the Confirmation of the Popes sentence doth gaine-say his Supreme authority But principally we oppose the Acts of this Councell of Ephesus in decreeing that Neither the Patriarch of Antioch who made claime Nor any other should assume authority of ordaining any Bishop within the Isle of Cyprus The Arguments and Reasons whereupon the Synod made this Decree shew that as well the Authority of the Bishop of Rome as of any other is thereby excluded And they adde more peremptorily It is to be obserued say they in all Prouinces and Dioces that no Bishop drawe vnder his subiection any Prouince which was not his from the beginning lest that vnder pretence of Priest-hood he bring into the Church Arrogance and Pride The very selfe-same disease which Saint Basil and Saint Augustine with the whole Councell of Africke haue both expressely noted and openly detested in the Romane Popes euen of their times CHALLENGE NOne of you euer doubted that this Councell of Ephesus was Generall and the Bishops therein truely Catholikes wherein notwithstanding you see diuers Arguments although not of disunion yet of no Subiection And therefore You except you will condemne CC. holy Bishops must needs iudge your Romane Article to be damnably false IV. That the Beleefe of the Romane Article of The Catholike Romane Church without subiection whereunto there is no saluation Damneth aboue CCCC Catholike Bishops in the fourth Generall Councell of Chalcedon SECT 5. FOure hundred and thirty Bishops were assembled in this Councell of Chalcedon with whom we are to aduize concerning your Article of Necessary Subiection to the Bishop of Rome and his Church But first wee are ready to answer and then to replie Your Obiection THis Councell saith your Cardinall said that The custodie of the Vine that is of the Catholike Church is committed to the Pope by God It saith so and so doth that godly primitiue Pope Eleutherius say to the Bishops in France as you know that The whole Catholike Church is committed by Christ vnto them Were They therefore thinke you all Popes What say you The meaning of Eleutherius is say you that for as much as Heretikes doe oppugne the Catholike and Vniuersall Church it belongeth vnto euery Bishop to haue an vniuersal care to defend support it And this is a true Answer indeed else must you grant that Saint Paul was a Pope ouer Saint Peter because he tooke vpon him The cure or care of the whole Church and that Athanasius Bishop of Alexandria was Pope aboue the then Bishop of Rome because Gregory Nazianzene saith of him that He hauing the presidence of the Church of Alexandria may be said thereby to haue the Gouernement of the whole Christian World By these Euidences we are compelled to aske with what Conscience you could make such Obiections in good earnest to busie your Aduersaries and seduce your Disciples with all whereunto you-your-selues could so easily make answer But thus Catchitiue haue you beene at the shadow let vs trie whether we can apprehend the substantiall Truth Our Opposition For what is that which you will say belongeth really to the Supreame and Papall Dominion of the Bishop of Rome Because say you with common consent the Pope hath supreme authority in gouerning the Church therefore can hee change the Canons and decrees of General Councels So you But what then say you to the equalling of other Patriarchall Seates with Rome The Fathers of the Councel of Chalcedon say you did giue Priuileges to the Patriarkeship of Constantinople equall to the Church of Rome but Pope Leo did oppose against the Decree of the Councell and disclaimed it You say true but yet let vs come to the ground of beleefe as well of the Fathers of that Councell in opposing your pretended Papall dignity and authority as of your Doctors in contradicting them Secondly therefore The Pope of Rome say you hath his Monarchie and sole gouernment of the Church from diuine right And The Romane Church was founded by God What Prouince then in the world is free from her Iurisdiction So
the Martyr of Christ. You may not forget the Councell of Mileuis and the Threescore vniuersally reputed Orthodox Bishops therein denouncing Excommunication against all African Priests which should so much as hold it lawfull for them to Appeale to Rome They that were thus bold to Excommunicate them that should beleeue any such Roman Iurisdiction did plainly professe their contempt of the Papall Excommunication against themselues in such a case and consequently their no beliefe of necessary Subiection or Vnion to the Romane Chaire Except therefore all these so many so learned and Orthodox so godly and constant professors of Christ Iesus were damned this Article The Romane Catholike Church without subiection whereunto there is no Saluation is iustly to be condemned as most false and pernicious Our Fourth Instance is in the Ancient Church of Britaine SECT 14. MVch adoe haue you made about this your Article viz. The Catholike Roman Mother-Church as though the Church of Rome had this prerogatiue aboue and before all others which we haue proued to be a meere delusion by many Examples out of the Catholike and Apostolike Churches more ancient than Rome and among others we gaue Instance in this Isle of the Church of Britaine and now we proceed to the libertie of the Britane Churches That the Britaines and Scots although separated anciently from the Church of Rome were notwithstanding accounted truely Religious and holy men First of their Separation SECT 15. CArdinall Baronius commeth on roundly saying Both Britaines and Scots were schismatically and obstinately separated from the Church of Rome You say Schismatically not Haeretically for you cannot impute vnto them any errour in Faith who as One of your selues hath written Did not differ from the Church of Rome in those dayes but onely in matters of smaller importance For how could they be called Haeretikes for following the Iewish Rite in the obseruation of Easter without the Iewish opinion more than the Romanists themselues who together with vs obserue the Feast of Pentecost yet not Iewishly for as your Genebrard answereth Iudaei Pentecostam typicè nos mysticè verè celebramus How much more Orthodoxally the Britaine Church which followed the steps of Saint Iohns Disciples and kept the Pasche of the Easterne Churches whence it is as One saith that the name of our Easter is probably deriued rather vpon custome than vpon any conceit of Mysterie much lesse in an opinion of Iewish seruitude Yet as your Cardinall Baronius hath truely said they were separated from the Subiection of the Church of Rome the necessitie of which Subiection you haue since made an Article of faith The right Estimation that ought to be had of the aforesaid Britaine Scottish yea and Irish Churches notwithstanding their Separation from Rome SECT 16. BE it that these Scottish and Brittish Churches were Schismatikes as you call them because not subiect to the Romane Church will you therefore haue no better estimation of them than of soules separated from the Catholike and Vniuersall Church and consequently depriued of Saluation So charitable indeede is your Baronius in his censure against the Britanes But Galfridus giueth vs better hopes of them calling the Praelates then in Wales in the time of Augustine the Monke Most religious Bishops telling vs of Two thousand Monkes vnder the Abbot Dinoth who getting their liuing with their owne hands stood out with others and denied subiection to the Church of Rome of which number A thousand two hundred died vnder the bloudy hands of Pagans and were thereby saith he crowned with Martyrdome and made inhabitants of the kingdome of heauen As for the Scots your Baronius will plead for them because saith hee Although they did not celebrate the Feast of Easter at the time obserued by the Church of Rome yet did they not keepe that Feast at the time vsed by the Iewes and therefore were not separated from the communion of the Church of Rome With as good reason might hee haue iustified the Britaines who though they did celebrate Easter after the manner of the Iewes in respect of the day yet did they it not with the same minde and Faith of the Iewes as thinking it necessary But the Cardinall regardeth not what hee saith being herein contradicted by Beda who witnesseth that the Scots were in Opposition against Rome herein and also contradicting himselfe in that he hath already called the Scots Schismatikes As for Bede hee reckoneth among other Scots the Bishop Aidanus and although Condemning and detesting his Opposition against the Church of Rome in the point of Celebration of Easter yet notwithstanding he testifieth of him that Hee was a mercifull Bishop indued with the spirit of Prophecie and famous for his miracles done after his death So he You may read of the like Opposition of the Irish Bishops against the See of Rome about the same time in the very same Question of Easter in a late Treatise set out by a learned Seruant of God excellently verst and professed in the Mysteries of Antiquitie CHALLENGE IVstly therefore may we conclude that no Doctrin or Article can be more Scandalous than this to taxe so infinite soules truely professing the Faith of Christ nor more Schismaticall than to hold them Schismatikes who being vnited to the Church Catholike were onely not subiect to the Church of Rome nor more Damnable than to condemne them whom all Christians are to honour in their memories as the holy and blessed Saints of God CHAP. X. Our Fifth Argument is because that the Beliefe of this Article viz. The Catholike Romane Church without which there is no Saluation damneth the soules of the most ancient and godly Emperours whom Christianitie hath alwaies honoured SECT 1. LET vs in the next place ioyne the First Generall Councels together with those ancient Christian Emperours by whose command the said Councels were gathered so shall we fight with Two weapons Spirituall and Temporall yet both Christian. These in respect of the Analogie of times are set downe by your selues For concerning the Approued Generall Councels you obserue that the First Generall Councell of Nice was vnder the Emperour Constantine The Second called the First Generall Constantinople Councell was vnder the Emperrur Theodosius the Elder The Third Generall Councell at Ephesus was vnder the Emperour Theodosius the Yonger The Fourth Generall Councell of Chalcedon was vnder the said Emperour Theodosius and Martianus The Fifth Generall Councell called the Second of Constantinople was vnder the Emperour Iustinian From these few wee shall easily vnderstand what value your Article can be of in all the rest after that we haue discussed these three points First what Subiection it is that you would hold due from Emperours to your Popes and Church Secondly whether the same godly Emperors haue held themselues bound to performe such dueties Thirdly whether notwithstanding their Opposition against your Tenure of Subiection they haue not deserued the estimation of Catholike Emperors
shall wee denie the truth of Their Martyrdome namely of those ancient Bishops of Rome who wee are assured dyed for the same Truth which we professe as in other points of Religion and diuine worship so also most apparantly for this our particular defence of not exacting Temporall Subiection of Kings and Emperours wherein we finde a vast gulfe of difference betwixt This your and That their Romane Faith For they as you haue heard would rather bee killed than trouble States and violate Temporall Powers and Authorities but your Popes in their Bulls proclaime that their Professors and Beleeuers ought rather to kill and be killed than not resist The determination of this point will bee according to the sense of your Romane Article a requiring vpon losse of saluation a beleefe of Temporall Subiection from all Kings and Emperours to your Popes whereby all these 27. godly Popes the faithfull Martyrs of Christ are damned who as is testified professed Obedience and Subiection vnto them euen to death Whom therefore we contrarily produce as so many Martyrs that is Witnesses by their blood that your now Article of Subiection in the Popish sense thereof is iustly to be condemned and those whom you call Martyrs for dying in defence thereof may bee your Popes Martyrs but nothing lesse than the Martyrs of Christ. A Memoriall concerning all Christian Emperours which haue receiued Baptisme the badge and Character of Christianitie SECT 3. PAsse we from gazing vpon the flagge with the Red-Crosse dyed in the blood of Martyrs to the Ensigne with the Crosse partly bloody Red as before as in the daies of Iulian the Apostate partly Blacke through the ignominies which Popes and other holy Professors sustained by Emperours whether Hereticall or Orthodoxe and partly white through the peace of Emperours euery way Catholike What will your Article concerning Subiection determine against all these You distinguish them either into Woolues such you call all Emperors which of Catholikes turne either Apostates or Heretikes of these you conclude that your Pope hath power to driue them away by all meanes possible Or else into Rammes signifying such Kings and Emperours who notwithstanding they be in profession true Catholikes yet doe any way oppresse or destroy the Church of whom you determine that your Pope As Shepheard by his power ought to compell these as furious Rammes by all meanes conuenient And what you hold Conuenient meanes we haue learned already by your obiected practises in dispossessing of Kings Emperors by force of Armes as namely these Childericke King of France the Emperour Henry the Third the Emperour Otho the Fourth and the Emperour Lodowicke the Fourth not for any note of Heresie but onely for not Subiecting themselues to the Popes Dignity and Dominion For we are now to confute the double presumption of your now Popes the one is their Violence agaist Emperours the other their not Reuerence vnto them as vnto their Superiours and that by the Examples of godly Popâ—â— of former Ages I. Examples of no-Violence vsed by Ancient Popes a-against Kings and Emperours SECT 4. WE are to speake of those times when their raigned among Christians not onely Tygers such as were Heathenish Tyrants but Woolues as Constantius and Valens both persecuting Hertikes and Iulian the Apostate who raised the Twelfth persecution besides Iustinian who as you haue heard dealt so hardly with your Two Popes Syluerius and Vigilius to omit others of the like boldnesse whom you may reckon among your Rammes In which cases Pope Boniface the Eighth requireth Both swords viz. Temporall and Spirituall Authority to be in his owne power so that the Temporall be subiect to the Spirituall As though the Churh could not possibly subsist without such a predominant power Ecclesiasticall ouer whatsoeuer Temporall Ordinance that shall any way afflict her or any of her members We are now in a Question of Fact and finde that as then in particular Syluerius and Vigilius both Popes being sent into Banishment by the Emperour Iustinian did not make resistance but petitioned for fauour and peace so now generally that as is confessed No Pope in all the Succession of Peter did Depose any Emperour before Pope Gregory the Seuenth that is not vntill a Thousand and Sixty yeeres after Christ. Wee faine would know what Answer you can make to this to quit your latter Popes from an inexcusable Innouation and intollerable Vsurpation and Inuasion vpon the Iurisdiction of Princes whether Ethnickes or Christians and of these whether Heretikes or Catholikes and of these whether Peaceable or Turbulent and obnoxious and the onely satisfaction your Cardinall will affoord vs is this If Christians saith he in antient times did not depose Dioclesian an Heathen Emperour Iulian an Apostate Valens an Heretike and others meaning Disturbers of the Church which were otherwise Catholikes the reason was because they wanted force and power So hâ—â—han which Answer for we must thinke your Cardinall was greatly learned none could be more vnconscionable all Antiquity prouing it to be agregiously false Tertullian and Cyprian two ancient Fathers being vnder the persecution of Heathen Emperours doe make their Apologies in the behalfe of the Christian and Catholike Church Tertullian thus God forbid that our Christian Profession should bee reuenged by humane power or should grieue to suffer that whereby we are tried albeit if we would become either secret or else open Reuengers of our owne wrongs could we want either number or power What Warre is there that we are not fit for yea and ready also to vndertake if that our Religion taught vs not rather to bee killed than to kill for the profession thereof Accordingly Saint Cyprian Our Professors saith he doe not take reuenge against vniust violence albeit our people be more in number Saint Ambrose was vexed vnder the hand of an Heretike and slyeth to his weapons but wot you what My prayers and teares saith he are my weapons I neither may nor can make any other resistance Not as you confesse that Ambrose had not power to resist with whom the people and greatest part of the Souldiers tooke part but because hee would not defend himselfe by Armes A Case so euident vniuersall and indeed honorable that your owne Authors do record it for the credit and glory of the Catholike Church in those ages saying that Christians neuer plotted against the secular gouernement no not when they were equall in strength They neuer conspired against Tyrants although for multitude they might easily haue made resistance because they were commanded namely in Scripture to performe Obedience And which is as much as can be said Not one ancient Father saith Another nor any one Writer albeit otherwise Orthodoxe and Catholike for more than a thousand yeeres space whilest yet the Church abounded in power of Armes was euer read to teach the contrarie So they II. CHALLENGE A Thousand yeeres space from Christ in the whole Church
Catholike wherein no such Subiection was exacted by Popes from Emperours is a faire time we thinke and a strong Argument to Challenge your Church of Heresie in prescribing to Christians a new Article of Faith as necessary to Saluation by which you againe condemne the Faith of all the Members of the Catholike Church as well Popes as other Bishops and Christian Doctors and People who with vniuersall consent beleeued and taught Obedience to Ciuill Magistracie whereas you now proclaime Armes and open resistance And what can you now suggest for the modesty of your Cardinall who blushed not to say that Christians anciently wanted force to resist all vnbeleeuing tyrannous and turbulent Emperors Being so euidently confuted as well concerning the open force which latter Popes haue maintained as also concerning all secret violence whereof you haue giuen vs many Examples For as wee haue heard touching Emperours of midle age so haue we lately seene in our daies your secret practises of Mischiefe against Kings and Queenes without any open warre by armies or troupes of enemies If â—he practice of Assassines and Traytors by Dagges Daggers Poysons POVVDER-PLOTS or your Cardinalls Quacunque ratione that is by what meanes soeuer may make any proofe Who if they can doe it we haue little reason to doubt of their wills so long as the Rescript of Pope Vrban the Second is in force concerning them that shall kill Schismatikes Excommunicate For although he command Penance to be inioyned them because of the doubt that may be had of the sincerity of their Intentions whether they did but double and onely seeme to slay them vpon zeale for the Catholike Cause when-as peraduenture they did it to satisfie their selfe-malice which Penance it may bee shall amount to no more than comming to Rome in the daies of Iubile or else to visit such a next Shrine and to say a few Aue-Marie's and Pater-noster's in honour of such a Saint Yet notwithstanding doth he acquit the conscience of euery such zealous Killer saying If any shall chance to kill Schismatikes whomsoeuer that are Excommunicate vpon an ardent zeale to their Catholike Mother meaning the Church of Rome wee doe not iudge them to be Murtherers Goe you now and complaine that you are vniustly persecuted or abandoned by Protestants out of seuerall Kingdomes seeing that they are all yearely Excommunicate at Rome for Heretikes and Schismatiks by the Bull of MAVNDY-THVRSDAY and consequently made Obnoxious vnto the blinde deuotion of euery Romish bloudy Assassine who may bee perswaded that he shal mâ—rit of God by the slaying of those supposed Schismatikes Thus much of the No-Resistance of Ancient Popes against Temporall gouernment II. Of the Reuerence acknowledged by holy Popes vnto Kings and Emperours as to their Superiors SECT 5. SVbiection challenged by Popes from Emperors as their Inferiors is the maine Subiect your later Popes haue insisted vpon as a Materiall Article of Faith euen in the point of Outward Reuerence as necessarily due vnto them by acknowledgment of a personall Subordination and Subiection vnto them But when we looke beyond this midle Region of After-times vnto the vpper spheare of Antiquitie we finde as great a difference betweene your later Popes and those Ancients as there is betweene Vp and Downe Then and Now Deposing of Emperours and yeelding Reuerence vnto them We seeke no other witnesses than your Binius and Baronius against whom we are sure you will take no exception In whom we finde Pope Liberius the First professing Patience in suffering indignities from the Emperour and intreating for mercie Pope Simplicius the First promising Continuall Reuerence to Christian Princes and supplicating the Emperour for fauour by this Legat Pope Leo the First making by the Empresse a supplication to the Emperour To command a Synod to be celebrated in Italy and yet he could not obtaine it Pope Gelasius the First confessing that Bishops are to obey the Lawes of Emperours Pope Hormisda the First taking notice of the Emperors Command of gathering a Councell as a motion from God and further acknowledging that hee had receiued warning and that he ought to be present thereat Pope Vigilius the First banished by the Emperour and suing for peace and fauour Pope Pelagius the First confessing and saying Holy Scripture commandeth vs to be subiect vnto Kings Pope Gregorie the First auowing himselfe to the Emperour in these words As for mee I performe obedience vnto your Commands whereunto I am subiect Pope Martyn the First praying the Emperour to Vouchsafe to read his letters Pope Agatho the First talking of the bending of the knees of his minde vnto the Emperour by Supplicating his Clemencie for Others Finally Pope Adrian the First Deuoting himselfe to the Emperour by Letters as one in supplication Fallen downe prostrate at the soles of his feet So your First Popes When we earnestly sought for some though but shadow of excuse of these Popes for betraying their right of Dominion and Soueraigntie ouer Kings and Emperours if any had bin due vnto themselues as is now challenged by your Popes at length wee light vpon your Bozius who would gladly say something but alas yeeldeth not so much as we haue sought for a shadow of excuse and yet whatsoeuer it is hee after his manner cannot deliuer it without much insultation If any Obiect saith hee that excellent honours haue sometimes beene yeelded of Popes vnto Kings and Emperours hee speaketh absurdly because these might and ought then to be performed in those dayes when Heathens were ignorant of the dignitie of the Church and were then by honour and dishonour to be won by Bishops to the Faith So he III. CHALLENGE IS it then absurd to obiect the Reuerence performed by ancient Popes vnto Emperours of their times is not rather the Answer now made fraught with many absurdities First because we haue not insisted onely vpon Examples of Heathenish times but of the times of Christian Emperors also Secondly because the Times whereof wee haue alleaged examples were not such wherein the dignitie of the Church of Rome was so ecclipsed obscured that it could not appeare to Infidels but contained the Ages from the persecuting Emperours for the space of 420. yeares down-ward within which time the Church of Rome was in her perfectest luster concerning which time the same Bozius propoundeth such is his modestie the Reuerence giuen by Emperours vnto the Bishops of the Church of Rome to be a note of the true Church Thirdly humility of Popes and Subiecting themselues to the Emperours was then a Motiue and Argument of drawing soules to the Romane Church how then shall not their after-Pride bee a meanes to alienate the hearts of Christians from it Doth the same Tree bring forth Figges and Thistles But lastly and principally because your Bozius hath altogether forgotten his Catechisme and the Article whereunto hee and you are both sworne namely The Church of
Rome as it is tearmed Catholike Your answer is that Among the Causes which by Diuine Law are referred vnto the Pope one is to decree what Scriptures are Canonicall Well then let this bee our First Question whether the Church of Rome in the dayes of Saint Hierome decreed the Epistle of Saint Paul to the Hebrewes to be Canonicall And Saint Hierome saith that Although formerly all other Churches in the East did account it Canonicall yet it was not receiued as Canonicall in the Latine or Romane Church In the Second place it is inquirable whether vpon this difference Saint Hierome will yeelde to the iudgement of the East and Greeke Church rather than of the West and Latine Church in a Cause of so great moment And Saint Hierome resolueth saying Although the Latine Church doth not admit of this Epistle as Canonicall wee notwithstanding saith hee doe receiue it Say now was Saint Hierome herein a Catholike or not you must needs grant he was a Catholike seeing that since his dayes your Church hath decreed that Epistle to the Hebrewes to be held Canonicall whence it will irresistibly follow that Saint Hierome who held herein with the rest of the Catholike Church against the Church of Rome in discerning of a part of Canonicall Scripture did thereby iudge the Church of Rome not to bee The Catholike Church Wee may see the same concerning the Canon of Scriptures of the Old Testament whereof your Church of Rome hath decreed in the last Councell of Trent as followeth If any doe not receiue as Canonicall the booke of Hester Daniell Baruch Ecclesiasticus Wisdome Iudith Tobias and the Two Bookes of Maccabees with all their parts as they are in the Vulgar edition let him be Anathema and accursed But say now was Saint Hierome of this Faith did he beleeue all those Bookes and their parts now mentioned to be Canonicall Nay did he not abandon them as Apocrypha and not properly Diuine Scriptures Yes saith your Cardinall Saint Hierome said of these that they were not within the Canon of Scriptures where he speaketh not of the Canon of the Iewes onely So he meaning that hee spake of the Canon of Christians If therefore the Church of Rome at that time were of the opinion of Saint Hierome then doth That ancient Church of Rome in reiecting those Bookes as Apocrypha condemne This now Romane Church which hath Canonized them for true Scriptures And if Saint Hierome in iudging these Apocrypha Bookes worthy to be excluded out of the Canon of Christians did herein dissent from the Church Rome in his dayes then did he againe beleeue that the Church of Rome was not The Catholike and Vniuersall Christian Church CHALLENGE WHereas your Obiectors haue dealt like a sort of Trades-men who shew not their wares but in darke lights whereby their Chapmen are often mistaken in their Trafficke we contrarily haue set before you the best kinde of Illustration namely the Comparison of things ioyntly one with another As for Example 1. Comparing Pope with Pope as Damasus a true Catholike with Liberius in apparance an Heretike Wee inferre Saint Hierome his no-beliefe of Gods perpetuall Assistance by Diuine Direction of the Pope 2. Comparing Pope with Bishop as Damasus with Petrus Bishop of Alexandria in Aegypt vpon whom Saint Hierome ioyntly relied in his Opposition against Heretikes Wee inferre that Saint Hierome beleeued not a Necessity of a singular Communion with the Pope 3. Comparing the Pope with Saint Hierome himselfe who although hee had beene a Scribe to the Pope and therefore so neere to the supposed fountaine of Oracles yet was glad to take long iournies and spend much time to Learne the Interpretation of Scriptures from Gregorie of Nazianzum and Didymus of Antioch and not so onely but did also instruct Pope Damasus in the knowledge of Scriptures Wee inferre that Saint Hierome did not beleeue your now Romane Principle which is to referre the last and safest Resolution for vnderstanding of the Sense of Scriptures to the iudgement of the Pope 4 Comparing the Citie of Rome and his Clergie with Palestine and hirs and Hierome not doubting to call Rome Babylon purple Whore strange Land and her Clergie Factious Ignorants and shewing his great contentment which hee found else-where We inferre that Rome is not alwayes to containe that Schoole of learning that Theatre of Sanctitie that Temple of perfit Worship which you vsually boast off 5 Comparing Bishopricke with Bishopricke Saint Hierome equalling the greatest as Rome with the least as Eugubium In honore Sacerdotij In honour of Priesthood And what Saint Hierome meaneth by Sacerdotium who knoweth not Wee inferre that Saint Hierome neuer beleeued the Prae-potency of the Bishop of Rome ouer other Bishops which you call Popedome to be founded vpon Diuine Ordinance 6 Comparing Church with Church as the Westerne or Latine Church whereof Rome is a chiefest member with the East or Greeke Church and all other Churches besides and Saint Hierome forsaking the Custome and iudgement of the West and Latine Church and yeelding to the East and Greeke Churches in a Doctrine which is the Foundation of all Fundamentall Articles to wit the true Canon of Scriptures both in the New Testament and in the Old We inferre that Saint Hierome did not beleeue either a Necessitie of all Vnion with the Romane Church in Doctrine or yet an absolute Dominion of the Romane Church aboue all others Whatsoeuer your reply be you must either expunge your now Romane Article out of the Canon of Faith or else raze the name of Saint Hierome out of your Calendar of Saints VII Saint Ambrose beleeued not the now Romane Article of Necessitie of Vnion and Subiection to the Romane Church SECT 7. SAint Ambrose Bishop of Milane is honored by your Memoriall of him in your Romane Calendar but much more in his owne Bookes and in the mindes of all Orthodox Christians in all ages since he liued for Confessor and Doctor of the Church of whom Saint Augustine could say I haue had experience of his graue constancie labours and perils for the Catholike Cause which the whole Romane world doth commend and report as well as I. This Saint the more excellent hee is the more forcible his Testimony ought to be whether it be on your side or on ours We are willing first to vnderstand what you can obiect Your Obiection out of Saint Ambrose answered Your Cardinall his Argument is this Ambrose calleth Pope Damasus the Rector of the whole Church and his Brother Satyrus would not admit of a Bishop to heare him before he vnderstood that he consented with Catholike Bishops That is saith he with the Church of Rome Ergo the Church of Rome is the Head of the Church Catholike Wherein your Cardinall laboureth of the same Elench whiles hee mistakes the words respectiuely spoken to one person Pope Damasus and circumstantially for one time as if they were absolutely so ment
for the persons of al Popes at all times Againe if the bare Title of Rector of the Catholike Church ascribed to Damasus must needs argue your Pope to be Head of the Church then must you inlarge the Catalogue of your Popes and inrolle among them as many other Bishops as haue receiued Titles equiualent if not more excellent than that For as you your-selues well know Athanasius was intitled the Propp and Foundation of the Church Saint Basil the Mouth of the Church Saint Nazianzene the golden Pillar and Foundation of the whole Church and Saint Ambrose himselfe was commended by the Emperour Theodosius as THE ONELY BISHOP VVHOME HE KNEVV VVORTHY THE NAME OF A BISHOP These few Parallells may serue to allay your appetite vntill we shall be occasioned to satisfie you in this sort to the full In which kinde of Ascriptions there is not any acknowledgement of Authority but a commendation of their care and diligence iudgement and directions in behalfe of the whole Catholike Church Concerning the Second Saint Ambrose addeth a reason of his speach wisely dissembled by your Cardinall to wit The Bishopricke of that Bishop was in a Region diuided into diuers Schismes by Hereticall Spirits whereas the Church of Rome professed constantly the Catholike Faith No maruell therefore though Satyrus aske of a Bishop whose Faith hee suspected whether hee beleeued as that Church did whose Faith was knowne to be truely Catholike As it sometimes cometh to passe in the Common-Wealth in cases of violent ruptures into many Factions repugnant each to other and all to the Loyall and faithfull Subiects of the King among whom some one City as for Example YORK shall bee knowne more generall than any others to professe loyaltie to their Soueraigne if thereupon an honest man aske of a Souldier liuing in one of the factious Countries whether he were a true Subiect and consented with the Citizens of Yorke would you iudge it a Politicke Inference to say that therefore Yorke is the Head ouer all other Cities in the Kigdome And that you may know the due proportion of this Comparison remember we pray you that euen in the same age of Pope Damasus and in the time of the same Schismes many Greeke Bishops were as truly Catholike as was Pope Damasus and yet were not subiect vnto his Iurisdiction as hath beene manifestly proued out of Saint Basil and is heereafter to bee more copiously yea and Confessedly declared Our Opposition from the Example of Saint Ambrose his Opposing against the Church of Rome Sixe hundred and seuenty yeares after the death of Saint Ambrose his Church of Milan was visited by Petrus Damianus Legat vnto Pope Leo the ninth assuming Iurisdiction ouer them when the Clergie of Milan withstood the Legat alleaging that The Church of Ambrose had bene alwaies free in it selfe and neuer was subiect to the lawes of the Pope of Rome The veines of those Clergie-men must haue bene voyd of all tincture of bloud in making a most shamelesse Answer if that it had bene a knowne Catholike Article then that all Churches Christian are necessarily Subordinate vnto the Authority of the Papall and Romane Iurisdiction And why did they in challenging their libertie call their Bishopricke of Milan Ambrose his Church but onely that they knew that Saint Ambrose did preserue the liberty thereof neuer acknowledging Subiection vnto the Bishop of Rome Whereof we haue more than a presumption in the writings of Ambrose himselfe in the Question touching Washing of the feet of Infants baptized which the Church of Rome iudged to be superfluous but contrariwise Ambrose and the Church of Milan held to be necessary The same Father lest the Authority of that Church might preiudice their custome pre-occupateth in this manner I wish in all things saith Ambrose to follow the Church of Rome but yet be it knowne that we being Men haue sense also in continuing this Custome which is likewise more rightly obserued else-where CHALLENGE THis one short sentence is as a Canon full charged to batter downe your great Bulwarke that we may to call your Article of Papall Monarchy For first Ambrose speaking of his owne Church of Milan in opposition vnto the Church of Rome and saying Sed tamen Nos c. BVT YET VVEE c. Ergò he held not his Church of Milan to be a member subordinate to the Romane Church as to the Head thereof But wherein is he opposite Tamen nos homines sensum habemus But we men haue sense As if he had said We in Milan hold this Ceremony necessary They of Rome iudge it superfluous and ridiculous as though we were Asses or Blocks but neither so for we are men nor so for we haue sense and hold that which is more rightly obserued Ergò Ambrose held no Necessity of inthralling his iudgment to the Pope of Rome which is a part of your Article of Faith And in that he saith Cupio I wish to follow the Church of Rome in all things yet this TAMEN or Non obstante doth againe confirme both our former Collections because by calling it The Church of Rome he maketh it no Vniuersall Church in essence and in refusing to follow it where he thinketh hee hath iust cause so to do prooueth that he belieued not her iudgement to be Vniuersally and Necessarily Catholike nor her power and Iurisdiction absolute The Prouerbe is A Lyon is knowne by his claw As well may we discerne Saint Ambrose his Faith by this Clause who in this one Resolution teacheth all Christian Churches to follow the Church of Rome in nothing wherein they are perswaded as Saint Ambrose was in this Case that the Church of Rome hath denyed to follow the Church of Christ. Now for you to answer that his meaning was To follow the Church of Rome in all things necessary though not in a Rite This Answer as it is false for Saint Ambrose held this Rite Necessary so it is also friuolous because if it be iust to withstand the Church of Rome in a Rite and Ceremony as it were in a Mite then how much more may it be lawfull not to follow or belieue her in her many new Articles of Faith whereof among other this is a Principall to wit The Catholike Romane Church without Subiection whereunto there is no Saluation which can neuer be credible as long as Saint Ambrose is belieued to haue bene a Saint VIII Saint Augustine belieued not the now Romane Article of Necessary Subiection to the Church of Rome and Pope thereof SECT 8. SAint Augustine as All will confesse deserued to haue his memory Registred not onely as it is in your Romane Calendar in paper monuments but in the minds and hearts of all Christians so excellent a Saint was He. It is not long since one of your Priests published a booke entituled Saint Augustines Religion wherein he will needs be thought to haue himselfe collected all the materials of
made her the patterne of all other Christian Churches his stile should haue arrayed her otherwise than by inuoluing her among Loca Occidentis Secondly in Criminall Causes you belieue that the Supreme Right of Appeale to the Sea of Rome is a Iurisdiction whereinto the Bishop of Rome is inuested by virtue of his Succession from Saint Peter so that all other Churches Christian ought to acknowledge this Right of Appeale vpon all iust occasions and the Cause being there determined all parties are vtterly precluded hauing no power to Appeale from it to any Superior Iudicature This is your pretended Prerogatiue of the Church of Rome consisting of two Termes Appealing to Rome and not Appealing from Rome Will you admit of Saint Augustines determination in both these Saint Augustine as hath bene confessed was one of that Councell of Africke which abandoned the Claime of Right of Appeales from all Churches to Rome which was then challenged by three Popes successiuely to wit Zozimus Boniface and Celestine and yet concluded against them that it should not be lawfull for any within the Churches of Africke to make their Appeale to Rome Accordingly you that would thinke it an intolerable and sacrilegious derogation from the Papall Iurisdiction if in a Criminall Cause after the Pope with his whole Consistory of Cardinals had giuen iudgement any Bishop within the Romane Iurisdiction should be so audacious as to Appeale from that Sentence to an higher Iudicature where you that are my Iudges shall be iudged whether you haue giuen right iudgement or not remember that Saint Augustine concerning the Case of the Bishop Caecilian which was referred to the Arbitrement of Pope Iulius and others doubted not to giue such a Resolution I suppose saith he the Bishops that were at Rome were not good Iudges there then remained a Generall Councell where the Cause may be discussed so that if it shall appeare that those Iudges iudged wrongfully their sentence may be reuersed and disanulled Thirdly from Criminall we proceed to a Doctrinall point You that haue told vs that it is a peculiar Prerogatiue belonging to the Church of Rome as she is The Catholike Church to direct all other Churches which is the true Canon of Diuine Scriptures and that she by her Councell may pronounce euery one Anathema and Accursed that shall not giue beliefe to his Decree touching the right Canon of Scriptures obserue that Saint Augustine perceiuing how the Latine or Romane Church did not in those daies constantly hold the Epistle of Saint Paul to the Hebrewes to be Canonicall and of Diuine Authority resolueth thus Notwithstanding I saith he am rather mooued by the Authority of the East Churches So Saint Augustine which is so much that a conscionable man we thinke should need no more For now we are in a Doctrinall point euen what and which is the Scripture and written Word of God the Principle and Doctrine of all other Principles and Doctrines Whereof when we enquire we are directed by Saint Augustine to consult with the Primitiue Churches as well East as West and wherein these do differ in their Customes therein to yeeld rather to the iudgement of the Greeke and Easterne Churches according as Saint Hierom also determined than to the Romane in the West And lest this Decision of Saint Augustine might seeme to proceed from some voluntary inclination to the Greeke Church rather than to the Latine he addeth that he is so moued by the Authority of the Easterne Churches Now how all these particulars will agree with your Article viz. The Catholike Romane Church Mistris of all other Churches without full Vnion and Subiection whereunto there is no Saluation do you your-selues deliberate Sure we are that this Resolution of Saint Augustine will easily interpret the meaning of his other sentence so often obiected by you to wit I should not haue belieued the Gospell except the Authority of the Church had moued mee that by Church he meant not the then present Church of Rome as you pretend which is as you see another vanity After this discussion of the Doctrinall Cause we adde a Consideration of the Schismaticall state of that Church according as our iudicious Casaubon hath obserued You who accompt it the onely note of Schisme to be diuided from the Romane Church and the Pope thereof as the onely Head of all Churches Answer vs Why Saint Augustine who in seauen Books besides many other places confuted the Schismaticall Donatists yet neuer spake word of the Monarchy of the Pope or of the Infallibility of his iudgement whereby to reduce them to the Vnity of the Church and Truth Lastly as for the Title of The Catholike Church you that appropriate it in your Article to the Church of Rome aduise againe with Saint Augustine who as he hath already defined that Catholike is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The whole as a Comprehension of all Parts and therefore that no Part can be called The Whole so doth he further illustrate the same in his Expositions vpon those words of the Psalmist The Kings daughters were among thine honourable women vpon thy right hand did stand the Queene in a Vesture of gold of Ophir Behold Rome saith he behold Carthage behold other Cities as Kings daughters of all which is made one certaine Queene speaking of the Catholike Church whereunto euery one ought to bee vnited in Faith and Hope So he You see that in Saint Augustines time when Rome was indeed Rome and truely glorious for Faith and Holinesse yet Behold Rome what The Queene which is the Catholike Church it selfe No but Behold Rome a daughter of the King And againe Behold Carthage and other Cities How Namely so and no otherwise than Rome and others all daughters of the King that is Particular Churches professing Christ. But the Catholike Church as Queene what must shee be any one of these bee it the Church of Milan Carthage or Rome No but One Vniuersall Church consisting of these and All others CHALLENGE SEe you now with what obliquity of iudgement your Authors haue obiected these colourable sayings of Saint Augustine out of his Epistles vnto Pope Zozimus and Pope Boniface and others Whereas when we come to his deeds he doth freely demonstrate his Faith contrary to your sense when Comparing Particular Bishopricke with Bishopricke as Rome with Carthage hee maketh them and their Bishops both Most Eminent Comparing Churches with Churches as Rome with the Churches of Africke he defendeth euen against the forenamed Popes Zozimus and Boniface both that it is not lawfull for Remote Churches to Appeale to Rome and that it is also lawfull for Churches that are subordinate to the Romane Iurisdiction to Appeale from Rome By which the very pinnacle of the pretended Authority of the Romane Iurisdiction is quite ouerthrowne and cast to the ground Againe Saint Augustine comparing the Two Moities of the whole Catholike Church commonly diuided into the East otherwise called the
Greeke Church and the West or Latine wherein the Church of Rome hath the greatest preeminence He in the Case of Apostolicall Tradition concerning Rites and Ceremonies hath made their credit equall but in the Doctrinall as namely a Tradition Apostolicall concerning the true and Canonicall Scriptures he preferreth the Authority of the Greeke and East-Churches and confesseth that it shouldereth out in this maine Case the Authority of the Romane Lastly comparing any One part with All Churches as by name Rome with Carthage and All others hee proueth that Rome can bee no more The Vniuersall or Catholike Church than Carthage No nor both together but that the Catholike Church as the Queene is the Whole Church of Christ by an Aggregation and Comprehension of All together in One. So direct and absolute a Doctor was Saint Augustine of the no-Necessity of vniuersall Vnion or Subiection vnto the same Church in poynts of Controuersie whether Rituall or Doctrinall and consequently of the no-Necessity of Beleefe of either of both all which your Article doth require and exact and yet we notwithstanding your damning Article must still beleeue that Saint Augustine is a blessed Saint IX Saint Hilary Bishop of Arles in France beleeued not your Article of Necessary Subiection to the Pope and Church of Rome SECT 9. THis Saint albeit he haue no place in the Romane Calendar of your Masse wil notwithstanding challenge a place among our honourable Witnesses because he is reckoned in your Martyrologe of Saints He in the yeere 445 seemed to vsurpe vpon the Iurisdiction of the Prouince of Vienna notwithstanding the Inhibition of Pope Leo who taketh it very haynously that Hilary heerein refused to be subiect vnto him This Hilarius as you without any proofe would make vs beleeue yeelded at length vnto the Pope making no further Apologie for the defence of his Cause Which were it so it mattereth not for that will suffice for his Apologie which is confessed by your Baronius namely that Although Hilarius did incurre the displeasure of Pope Leo in the defence as he was perswaded of the Right of his Episcopall Sea Yet notwithstanding was he worthy saith the Cardinall for his singular sanctity to be registred in the Romane Martyrologe of Saints CHALLENGE LEo the then Pope complaineth against this Saint for refusing to bee Subiect to his iudiciall determination the which this Saint did saith your Cardinall in presumption that his cause was iust Yet Gennadius Prosper and others that set downe his life doe not note in him any iniquity in this Case What need many words He that in a Question of Ecclesiasticall Rites could not but doubt of the uniuersall authority of the Pope could not bee of the now Romane Faith Therefore this Saint Hilary was confidently perswaded that in some case it was lawfull to denie Subiection to the Pope Wherefore it will belong to you either to renounce this sacrilegious Article or to vn-hallow and vn-saint this holy man The Generall CHALLENGE concerning the forenamed Saints ALl this while that wee haue laboured to confute your former Romane Article from the iudgements of ancient Fathers and holy Saints we haue insisted onely in them whose names are celebrated in your Romane Church and recorded in the publike Calendar thereof or in your Martyrologe of Saints to wit Saint Polycarpus Saint Cyprian Saint Athanasius Saint Basil Saint Hilary of Poictou Saint Hierom Saint Ambrose Saint Augustine and Saint Hilary of Arles all of them in the opinion of all Christians deseruing of the Church of Christ the most Honourable Title of SAINTS besides the other Attributes which for further Amplification of their worthinesse are ascribed vnto them as adorning Saint Polycarp with the Title of the Doctor of Asia Cyprian the most famous Doctor Saint Hilary of Arles with the Title of Sanctity And as for the rest you shall need no more than that which your Cardinall Baronius testifieth in his Dedicatory Epistle vnto Pope Clement the Eight I present before you saith he Athanasius the Great and Basil the Great two Chiefes or eminent Topps of the East-Church and Hilary Hierom Ambrose and Augustine the Foure Principalls of the Westerne Church Pillars of the Faith and Miracles of the World with this company of so excellent Fathers your throne is crowned So he What larger Assumption could your Cardinall haue made in Ostentation of the Papall Monarchy from the Authority of these Fathers then to boast vnto the Pope of the establishing of his Throne by the Testimonies of the same Saints Wherefore seeing we likewise doe ioyntly Appeale vnto these holy Fathers as vnto most impartiall witnesses of Truth you are by your amplifications of their Learning Wisedome Constancie in the Faith and Sanctity as by so many Obligations bound to stand to their iudgements by which the sinewes of your Romane Article are broken asunder First of Necessity of Vnion with Secondly of Subiection vnto the Church and Bishop of Rome as The Catholike Church and Bishop Thirdly the Beleefe of the Necessity of both these And each of those Three vpon losse of Saluation to All them that are not of this Beleefe Recall to minde the former Passages concerning the behauiour of these Saints in whom you haue seene professed Opposition in matter of Doctrine against the Pope and Church of Rome by setting Councell against Councell by taxing the Romane Church of Pride and Ignorance by contempt of the Popes Excommunication by condemning his Condemnation by Anathematizing his person by preferring the iudgement of the East-Church before hers in the great Question of the Canon of Scriptures as well of the Old as of the New Testament Can you desire a more cleare Demonstration of a Beleefe of no Necessity of Vnion with the Pope or Sea of Rome than this is But because you hold it not sufficient to Saluation that a man professe Vnion in Faith with the Church of Rome except also he acknowledge an absolute Subiection in Discipline vnto her Iurisdiction it may not be held superfluous to repeate vnto you the liuely Characters of their no Subiection by denying of Conformitie with Rome in so little as in a Rite whether of a Fast or of Washing of Feete by inhibiting foraine Prouinces to Appeale To Rome and permitting of Appeales sometimes From Rome to a Councell by equalling other Bishops with the Bishop of Rome and making Rome so A Church that it cannot be The Catholike Church any more than Carthage or any other Particular Church is and by maintaining of Iurisdiction against the Bishop of Rome Lastly for as much as neither Vnion in Faith with the Church of Rome nor Subiection in Discipline vnto her doth by your Romane Article satisfie except a Christian haue also beleefe of the Necessity of both the former in euery one that shall seeke to be saued ponder with your selues whether these Fathers if they were as both you and wee proclaime them Saints could beleeue in their hearts and mindes that
by their Acts and Deedes that Popes anciently were no Monarks at all Then will you conclude that we haue iust reason to challenge your Authors of great vnconscionablenesse in their defence and by the vanity of their proofes to perswade your selues of the Truth of our Cause Your Second kinde of Obiections are taken from Titles attributed by Ancient Fathers to the Bishop or Church of Rome The Vanitie of the Consequence hereof discouered First by Equiualences SECT 2. YOur Cardinall to proue his former Conclusion concerning the Succession of the Pope in the Ecclesiasticall Monarchie flieth againe after Titles as namely such as haue beene attributed vnto Popes long since by Ancient Fathers Wee are to discouer the falsehood of this Consequence knowing that the Foundation is too weake to carry so great a weight as is a Monarchie and sole Dominion of one Atlas the Pope ouer all the Catholike Church of Christ and to answer the most of those by like Parallels and Equiualences First The Popes Primacie is proued say you by the word Papa that is Pope Three wayes One because though it had bin giuen commonly to others yet was it attributed to the Bishop of Rome by way of Excellencie thus THE Pope Ergo Monarke False for it was bestowed as well vpon Saint Cyprian by the way of Excellencie insomuch that at the point of his Martyrdome when the Paganish Proconsull askt him Art thou he whom Christians call their Pope Saint Cyprian answered yea IAME Next because say you he is also called The Pope of the Vniuersall Church Ergò hee is a Monarke False for Athanasius also who is called Pope had his Church called by Constantine The Vniuersall Church Lastly because say you The Bishop of Rome himselfe calleth no other Bishop Pope but Sonne or Brother Ergo hee is Monarch False for Pope Cornelius likewise as is confessed called Cyprian Pope yea and Cyprian called Pope Cornelius Brother as also Epiphanius as is further confessed called Pope Hormisda Brother so little doth the name of Brother or Title of Pope auoid the Equalitie among Bishops The Second name is The Father of Fathers giuen to Damasus Ergo he was Monarch False for if Others were called Popes as you haue heard all is one because as is confessed Papa and Pater Patrum Pope and Father of Fathers is the same And also Saint Polycarpus was called The Father of Christians Thirdly Fourthly and Fifthly the Bishop of Rome say you was called The high Priest of Christians yea The Chiefe Priest yea The Prince of Priests Ergo Monarch False for Basil who was no Pope was called Great Priest Athanasius also was called The Master of Priests and you haue many in the Church of Rome vnder Monarchs yea or Bishops that are called Arch Priests and whatsoeuer your phrase be it cannot be higher or chiefer than Summus or Chiefe which by your owne Confâ—ssions hath bin communicated to Non-popes Sixthly the Bishop of Rome say you was called The Vicar of Christ. Ergo Monarch False for Pope Eusebius alluding to that of the Apostle concerning all the Apostles Wee are the Embassadours in Christi vice in Christ his stead and applying it to Bishops saith There is one Head of the Church Christ but the Vicars of Christ are they that in Christ his stead are Embassadours for Christ. Seauenthly the Bishop of Rome say you was called The Head of the Church and his Seate or Church The Head of Churches Ergo the Pope is Monarch False for Athanasius was likewise called The topp of the Head of all and Cyril in a Councell The Head of the Assembly and Antioch is called The Head of the whole world The Eight and Ninth The Bishop of Rome is called The Foundation of the Church and Pastor of the Lords flocke Ergo Monarch False for Athanasius also is called The Foundation of the Church of God And if you speake De iure the word Pastor of the whole flocke was proper to the Apostles who receiued in their ioynt Commission a power and Authoritie of Preaching throughout the world to euery humane creature without any limitation insomuch that as Saint Augustine saith Peter was a Pastor and Paul was a Pastor and the other Apostles were also Pastors But there could not be so many Monarchs ouer the whole Church But if you vnderstand thereby Curam Studium Care Studie which by the Office of Pastorship euery one is bound vnto according to his possibility towards the good of the Vniuersall Church in this all other Bishops are Pastors as well as the Pope as hath bin confessed The Tenth The Bishop of Rome say you is called The Rector or Gouernour of the house of God Ergo Monarch False for it is not spoken Vniuersally but Indefinitely In materiâ contingenti with allusion to the words of Saint Paul to Timothie thus That thou maist know how to conuerse in the house of God which is the Church of the liuing God namely with an vniuersall care ouer All but a Particular power ouer that his Church of Ephesus which was his Bishopricke and yet Timothie was no Monarch The Eleuenth The Bishop of Rome say you is called Hee to whom the Lords Vineyard is committed Ergo hee is Monarch False for Pope Eleutherius as you know writ to the Bishops of France thus The vniuersall Church saith hee is committed vnto you yet hee ment nothing lesse than to iudge them Spirituall Monarchs The Twelfth The Bishop of Rome is called say you The Father and Doctor of all Christians Ergo Monarch False for the First of these was Attributed vnto Polycarpus a Bishop of Asia who was called The Father of Christians And because the Second concerneth your Faith and the iudgement of the Bishop of Rome as an Oracle for the full determination of Faith as being therefore worthy to bee held Monarchicall wee say that your Consequence from this Title The Doctor of Christians and the like is as false as any of the rest because of the Equiualencie of Attributes giuen to other learned and Orthodox Fathers as followeth Our second discouery of the falshood and vanity of your Papall Defence from Titles borrowed from Ancient Fathers by our like Equiualences SECT 3. IF your Consequence from Titles must needs conclude a Monarchicall Pope then marke we pray you how many Monarches must be acknowledged in the purest times of Christ his Church after the Apostles who notwithstanding neuer were lifted in the Catalogue of your Popes wherein we make bold to call your owne Authors to witnesse First then to answer you as Logicians speake in your very Termes looke into the Marginalls and you shall finde 1 Origen called by Didymus The Master of the Churches and by Saint Hierom Most excellent expounder of
out of the Church and therefore he assembled a Prouinciall Synod for the restoring of the name of Chrysostome into the publike Tables of the Church We should haue expected in a Case concerning your Papall Monarchy that Cyrill that was thus moued by a Vision of Chrysostome to repent the not-restoring of his name should haue much more beene moued by his certaine knowledge of the displeasure of your Supreme Monarch the Pope of Rome who did nothing but flash and thunder out Excommunications against all Opposites and that the Restitution of Chrysostomes name should haue beene done simply by Submission to the same Popes Decree and not onely according to Cyrill his determination by the consent of his owne Prouinciall Councell or that the Cause of alteration should haue beene if Nicephorus may deserue any credit onely by vertue of a Vision in a dreame The Eleuenth and for wee should bee two tedious to pursue your Cardinalls vnconscionablenesse in each one the last that we shall insist in is Acacius Bishop of Constantinople He is brought in to witnesse in his Epistle to Pope Simplicius that the same Pope had The Care of all Churches as if the word Vniuersall Care of all Churches did conclude an Vniuersall power and Monarchy ouer them all The Vanity of which Consequence hath beene discouered by diuers Instances in Others to whom the like Vniuersall Care of all Churches was applied as vnto Saint Paul in the dayes of Peter to Athanasius in the dayes of Pope Iulius and to the Bishops of France in the dayes of Pope Eleutherius in whom you will sweare wee know there was nothing lesse intended than a Monarchicall Popedome But that this sense should be collected out of the words of Acacius it exceedeth all limits of modesty For what one Bishop can you name of those times that euer opposed himself more against the Iurisdiction of the Pope of Rome than did this Patriarch of Constantinople Acacius This you may easily try by the manifold out-cries of Baronius vpon him for his defence of Peter Mogge by him established in the Bishopricke of Alexandria against the will of the same Pope Simplicius calling him a Franticke man violently opposite vnto the Bishop of Rome insomuch that the Pope did Excommunicate him but hee shewed his contempt of that Censure sufficiently by liuing and dying therein Was not this Witnesse worthily selected by your Cardinall trow you who in that hee saith doth nothing aduantage Papall claime and in that which he publikely worketh and acteth doth quite ouerthrow it Wee may not let passe the publike Sanction and Decree of the Emperour Leo whereby hee authorized and ratified the great dignitie of the Patriarchship of Constantinople and the Patriarch thereof For therein he calleth Acacius A most blessed and religious Patriarke the Church of Constantinople hee nameth The Mother of all Christians that professe the Orthodox Religion the Priuileges of that Church hee requireth and decreeth to be as ample as euer they at any time had beene before or in the time of his Empire and to continue in the same latitude and extent perpetually to all future ages This is the effect of this Emperors Decree and can this accord with your Romish Monarchie Your Baronius the chiefe Herald that we can read of for the blazoning and magnifying of it will say No for he fretteth at the very heart in reading of it and therefore vpon his owne sole coniecture will haue his Reader thinke that the frame of this Sanction was stiled by Acacius himselfe that called the Church of Constantinople The Mother of all Christians professing the Orthodox Faith and that therefore these were not saith he the words of that godly Emperor So he As though the Church of Constantinople so large in its own Ecclesiasticall Dioces and by reason of the Emperiall Seat in that Citie so potent in the discharge of Patriarchall Function might not be called the Mother of All Orthodoxall Churches although not as Rome falsely and ridiculously stileth her selfe as if she were the Procreating Mother of all Churches since Christ and so for many Churches Christian were planted before Rome a Mother before she was borne a Childe yet a Nursing Mother might Constantinople be then iustly named so farre as her care and endeauor sought and laboured the Conseruation of all others in pietie and Religion But not to stand vpon the Stile looke vpon the Matter it selfe and then will this Godly Emperour proue as Theodosius and other Predecessours before him a Patron of the Priuiledges of the Church of Constantinople Equall with the Prerogatiues of ROME according to the Decree of the Generall Councell of Chalcedon notwithstanding the much fuming and fretting of your Popes thereat to this day And who can blame your later and Monarchicall Popes who know right well that Monarchie brooketh no Aequalitie Caesar if hee will be Monarch must be either Solus or Nullus onely One or None at all CHALLENGE IF the importunitie of the Cause had not exacted of vs so large a discourse we might haue spared thus much paines which wee haue bestowed in this disquisition for the discouery of the Vanitie of your Romish Claime by the Testimony of the Ancient Fathers in the Greeke Church wherein haue bin laid open so many falsehoods of your Proctor as that hee may be iustly suspected to haue pleaded your Romane Cause Strenuè sanè feruently enough but according to the Prouerbe Graecâ fide Your Obiections from the Sentences of Latine Fathers for your Papall Defence and the Falshood and Vanitie thereof discouered First from Saint Cyprian SECT 8. THE First Father whom your Cardinall produceth for proofe that the Church of ROME and Bishop thereof is sole Monarke ouer all other Churches and Bishops is Cyprian wee say Cyprian that Pole-starre of true Bishops and admirable Martyr of Christ whom wee haue proued to haue beene by his writings as an Ecclesiasticall Hanniball at the gates of Rome crying defiance to the presumed Monarchie thereof And sooner shall your Cardinall pull the Club of Hercules out of his hands than wrest away from Cyprians writings the Patronage which Protestants thence haue for defence of this present Cause The Obiection of your Cardinall is onely a racking of certaine phrases of Cyprian as namely One Church one Root one Priest in Christ his stead one Chaire one Bishopricke one Bishop c. Euery one of these Ones hee expoundeth to point out in speciall the Proper Church of Rome and not to be either vsed Generally for what soeuer Church or Bishop else nor yet particularly for Cyprian himselfe or for the Church of Carthage whereof he was Bishop This is the maine issue of this Cause concerning the Testimonies of Cyprian Two Formes of Answering lye directly before vs First is that Cyprian may be expounded by his owne Words Secondly that his Words may be interpreted by his Workes One Chaire saith hee beginning at Peter
Councell of Africke to haue admitted of the Appeale of Apiarius a Priest but not without a shamefull repulse giuen him by the same Councell for his bold vsurpation Which your other Cardinall could not dissemble For It is euident saith he that Zozimus did not allow that Decree concerning Priests not Appealing vnto places beyond the Sea So triumphant is Truth The Second point that your Cardinall insisteth vpon is to giue vs to weet that the Decree forbad onely the Priests and Inferior sort of the Clergie to Appeale to Rome but not the Bishops this he saith is proued by Saint Augustine who was present in this Councell and yet saith in one of his Epistles that it is lawfull for the Bishops of Africke to Appeale beyond the Sea So he yet so still as though hee were scarce able to report a Truth For Augustine in the place alleged doth not iustifie Appeales beyond the Sea to Rome but onely speaketh of one Case of Cecilian which was not a Case of Appeale but of Delegation by the Authority of the Emperour to the Pope and after to other Bishops as our next Discouery will proue As for Saint Augustine who was present in this Synod he was also present in the African Councell at Carthage assenting to that which was there concluded by the Fathers of that Councell in their Epistle to Pope Celestine wherein grounding their Caution vpon the Councell of Nice Your Reuerence knoweth right well say they that if they haue so cautelously prouided decreed concerning Clerkes of Inferior Orders how much more would they haue this obserued in respect of Bishops By this you may discerne the Logique taught them at Carthage by those Fathers arguing thus The Bishops of Africke prouided for the conueniencie of their Priests and Inferior Clergie to hinder them from vexatious courses and wastfull expences in the point of Appeale by sauing them from vnnecessary trauels beyond the Sea therefore they intended much more that they themselues should be freed Euen as an householder that doth compound with a Captaine in behalfe of his seruant to free him from being pressed for a Souldier doth much more intend thereby his owne freedome although hee make no expresse mention thereof CHALLENGE THe same Decree that forbiddeth that No Priest or Deacon shall Appeale to Rome out of Africke awardeth also a penalty of Excommunication vpon euery Priest or Deacon that shall transgresse heerein saying Let none within Africk ioyne in Communion with him Now then that we may close with you those holy Fathers who Excommunicated them that should Appeale to Rome would not haue regarded the Excommunication of the Pope if he should haue Excommunicated them for denying such Appeales vnto Rome This woundeth your Cause to the very heart For if those godly Fathers of that Councell of Mileuis did denie that which you accompt to be the Principall Character of your Article of Subiection to the Pope euen his pretended Right of Appeale as being Supreme Iudge if also by their Decree of the Excommunication of them that should but Thinke of the contrary they therefore doubtlesse would haue contemned the Excommunication of the Pope if peraduenture he had returned the Dint of his Excommunication against them Then reuiew againe your now Romane Article viz. The Catholike Romane Church and the foure pillars of Necessity whereupon it standeth to wit 1. Necessity of Vnion with it 2. Necessity of Subiection vnto it 3. Necessity of Faith to beleeue both these and 4. All these to be Necessary to Saluation and trie then whether this Councell of Mileuis haue not vnder-mined and ouerthrowne each one For 1. They forbid Appeales to Rome therefore they acknowledged no absolute Subiection vnto it 2. They Excommunicate all African Priests Appealing to Rome Ergò they held no absolute Necessity of Vnion with it 3. They Excommunicate all such Qui put auerint as should but Thinke it lawfull to Appeale to Rome Therefore they had no Necessity of Beleefe either of Subiection or Vnion with that Church 4. That which they thought iust in themselues to oppose the same they could not think Necessary for others to beleeue Except therefore we shall condemne at once Threescore Antient Godly Orthodoxe Bishops and euery way without exception among whom Saint Augustine was one to be depriued of spirituall life wee must conclude that your Romane Article is most Schismaticall and Damnable Our Sixt Discouery of the Falshood of the pretended Vniuersall Right of Appeales to Rome by opposing Two other Cases out of Saint Augustine SECT 20. NE quid nimis is an Aphorisme which ought to take place in euery kinde of discourse for enough is enough and Noli actum agere not to doe one thing twice is as necessary as the former You will therefore excuse vs if to preuent tediousnesse we referre you to that which hath beene already as exactly argued from both as the Cases themselues did require The first was the Case of the Bishop Cecilian The Second Case is betweene the Church of Africke in a Prouinciall Councell and Three Popes successiuely in the Cause of Apiarius The summe of both is this that because Appealing as hath beene said is a Remouing of a Cause from an Inferiour Court to an Higher the first Case Transferring a Cause iudged by Pope Iulius vnto another Iudge by way of Delegation proueth that the Pope was not by his owne place the Supreme Iudge The Second Inhibiting Appeales to Rome proueth that concerning the Right of Appeales in Africke the Pope was no Iudge at all Wherefore willingly pretermitting many other your Answers in these kindes of Disputes farre more friuolous and vaine than any of the former we proceed to that which followeth Our Generall CHALLENGE concerning your Romish Answers to the Testimonies obiected against your pretended Right of Appeales to Rome VNiuersall Right of Appeales is indeed as you haue said A most strong Argument for proofe of an Vniuersall Iurisdiction in any one that is truely inuested there in And as truely is the No-Vniuersall Right as strong an Argument of false Vsurpation to proue the No-Vniuersall Iurisdiction of Any that shall falsely pretend such a Right For as it is true that the Sunne is the Vniuersall light of the World because it giueth light vnto all other Starres and Planets so is it as true that neither Moone nor Mercurie nor any Planet or Starre besides can be called such an Vniuersall light because it hath not that Vniuersall power of giuing light to all others This Vniuersall Right of Appeale you haue appropriated vnto your Bishop of Rome and his See which all Churches Christian now not subiect to the same See doe as absolutely gaine-say Now commeth in your choice Champion furnished with the Panoply of learning and subtilitie as well offensiue to obiect as defensiue to answer whatsoeuer force of Argument made against all pretence of that Right But you cannot but discerne in his Obiections that he could
obiect nothing but either the parties themselues namely the Popes for Witnesses in their owne Cause or the exorbitant Examples of Factious and Criminall Persons Appellant in stead of regular and Conformable or in the Examples of some Godly Fathers that sought helpe at the Pope of Rome a power Arbitrarie for Iudicatorie or a friendly support issuing from the Estimation and grace that some Popes then had to perswade in stead of Authoritie of Iurisdiction or lastly a restrained power and that onely by humane and Ecclesiasticall Canon and Custome which is alterable instead of a pretended proper and Diuine Right Such we haue proued to be the vanitie of his Proofes As easily may you obserue that notwithstanding his Answers he furthermore lyeth open to manifold Exceptions For Anno 216. Restraint of Appeales to Rome was made by the Councell of Carthage Anno 337. a Delogation was made by a godly Emperor Constantine to Pope Iulius and transferred from him to other Bishops Anno 367. Pope Damasus disclaimeth all Right of Appeale to Rome after the Iudgement of a Prouinciall Synod Anno 416. the Councell of Mileuis denieth Appeales out of Africke to Rome and Anno 420. the Councell of Africke is as peremptorie against this pretence of Papall Priuiledge of Appeale Among which Three Councels to wit that of Carthage vnder Cyprian the other of Mileuis and the Third of Africke all African Councels are challenged by your Authors to haue bin within the Patriarkship of the Bishop of Rome and yet they denied vnto him the Prerogatiue of Right of Appeale from Africke to Rome Than which what can be a more euident Discouery of the Falsehood of your Article Wee conclude Either must 600. Bishops in the Councell of Chalcedon 87. Bishops in the Councell of Carthage 60. in the Councell of Mileuis 217. in the Councell of Africke and among them Saint Cyprian Saint Augustin who All may seeme to haue conspired to pull downe this great Pinacle of the Romanâ— Babel and principall part of her Article of Catholike Iurisdiction bee iudged depriued of Saluation or else must wee say and professe Cursed is this your Article of The Catholike Romane Church without which there is no Saluation And now haue we finished the Consideration of the Romane Church after her first Foundation in the Ancient ages thereof within the compasse of the First Six hundred years after Christ and Antiquity in Doctrine you know is of all humane proofs the best Argument for Christian Resolution This Treatise would grow into a vast Volume if we should proceed throughout all former Successiue ages we therefore rather choose for breuitie-sake to hasten to the Consideration of the Later ages of the Church CHAP. XIV Our Fourth Generall Consideration is of the Churches Catholike in the Last ages thereof manifesting thereby the Impietie of your Article The Romane Catholike Church without which there is no Saluation BY this Consideration wee shall be occasioned to giue Instances in diuers Christian Churches which professe not either that Subiection or else that Vnion with the Pope or Church of Rome as your Article viz. The Romane Catholike Church c. doth exact These Instances are of Three kinds 1. In Churches of Nations Remote from the Church of Rome 2. In Churches of neerer Countries wherein are the Churches of Protestants 3. In the Romane Church it selfe Our First Instance concerning Remote Churches not Subiect nor vnited to Rome is in the Greeke Church SECT 1. BVt First be it knowne vnto you that there are Foure Patriarkships Christian at this day dis-united from Rome to wit Constantinople Antioch Alexandria and Ierusalem the Patriarkes whereof haue of later Times their Ancient Patriarchall stile as thus Hieremias by the mercie of God Arch-Bishop of Constantinople Oecumenicall Patriarch Michael by the Mercy of God Patriarch of Great Theopolis or Antiochia Ioachim by the Mercy of God Patriarch of the Great Citie of Alexandria Sophronius by the Mercie of God Patriarch of Ierusalem and all Palaestina Whatsoeuer Christians are vnder these Patriarkships or in other remote Nations and haue not ruinated any Fundamentall Article of sauing Truth set downe in our ancient Creeds and are vnited vnto the true Catholike Head Christ Iesus our Lord by a liuing Faith all Protestants esteeme Them as true members of the Catholike Church and notwithstanding diuers their more tolerable Errors and superstitions to be in the state of Saluation albeit no-way subiect or Subordinate to the Romane Church And from this Generall Consideration wee descend vnto our Particular Instances For our more expedite passage and your expert apprehension of the Validitie of this Instance wee shall Methodically lay downe before you Fiue obseruable points First the Continuance of the No-Subiection of the Greeke Church to the Romane Secondly the Dis-union and Opposition thereof vnto this day Thirdly the Estimation which is to be had of it in respect of their Religion notwithstanding their said Dis-union from Rome Fourthly the extent of the said Greeke Church shewing the innumerable Multitudes of them and Lastly vpon these Premises a Manifestation by way of Challenge and discouery of the Iniquitie of your now Romane Article which pronounceth Damnation vpon all such as professe not Subiestion and Vnion with the Church of Rome I. The Continuance of the No-Subiection of the Greeke Church to Rome SECT 2. BEsides all that which hath bin copiously already deliuered concerning the Greek Church we shal in this place rest much vpon your Confessions Wherefore wee would First demand of you how many yeares you thinke the Church of Greece hath bin diuided from the Church of Rome as a Church distinct and not subiect to the Iurisdiction thereof Some of you indefinitely set downe Many Hundreds of yeares Whereas your Cardinall more precisely doth although in his indignation note how the Greeke Church opposed it selfe to the Latine in the yeare 381. in a Generall Councell wherein contrary to the likeing of the Pope of Rome a Hundred and Fiftie Bishops constituted a Patriarke of Constantinople and placed him next to the Bishop of Rome And being not content with this saith hee in the yeare 451. in the Fourth Generall Councell of Chalcedon by the Consent of Six hundred Bishops they endeuored to make the Patriarke of Constantinople equall with the Bishop of Rome in the Priuiledges of his Patriarkship All this argueth no Subiection of the Greeke Church vnto Rome And albeit some would scrape acquaintance with the Greek Church in the yeere 1549 at the Councell of Florence as though all then had become Subiects to the Pope yet vpon due examination you your selues finde the Grecians there to haue beene so farre from Subiection to the Pope that They would not permit him to constitute a Patriarch among them professing that they could doe nothing without the consent of their owne Church And as farre were they from Subiecting themselues in Doctrine for when some few points were propounded the Greekes answered the
Pope that They had no license to treat of such matters Yea and their Emperour Palaeologus that was so earnest to piece them together was himselfe but hardly welcomed home to the Greeke Church which was now much more exasperated against the Romane Church insomuch that as you say They did now Pronounce their Patriarch of Constantinople the Supreme and Chiefe of all Bishops Thus farre therefore haue you confessed the no-Subiection of the Greeke Church from the first foure hundred yeeres vnto the yeere 1549 which make vp 1149 yeeres Yet are we not content with this short reckoning but rather hearken vnto your Iesuite Maldonate and Prateolus the first The Greekes saith he alwaies enuied and disliked the supreme dignity of the Pope The other thus And they were good words good friend so rebelliously aduerse to the Church of Rome that they neuer would obey his Decrees So they This is enough to shew the Vniuersall freedome they still challenged from the Dominion and Iurisdiction of Rome II. The Dis-vnion and Separation of the Latter Greeke Church from Rome SECT 3. THe No-Subiection doth not alwaies argue necessarily a Dis-vnion of Separation for the King of France and King of Spaine are vnited in league albeit neither of them subiect to other but then onely when-as Subiection is due as it is seene in all Cases of Rebellion Now this Dis-vnion in Churches is most commonly either in Faith or in Affection What kinde of Separation hath beene a long time between the Greek and Latine Church we neede not tell you your owne Complaints and cries are loud enough against them The Greekes say you hold the Pope of Rome and all Latines vnder him to be Excommunicate Yea and So farre forth doe they abhorre the Church of Rome as your Lateran Councell at Rome noteth that if the Priests of the Romane Church shall chance to celebrate vpon any of their Altars they themselues would not celebrate vpon the same Altars before they had washed them as thinking them polluted by the others sacrificing Nay and furthermore they Rebaptize them that had bin baptized in the Church of Rome Will you know one maine reason of this the Greeke Opposition Harken then to Nilus the Greeke Arch-Bishop of Thessalonica The Latines saith hee giue vs cause to dissent from them whiles that they take vpon them to be Masters of the Church and vse as if wee were but their Schollers Contrarie to the Decrees of ancient Fathers which are extant in their writings at this day And the Latines affirme that it is the office of their Popes to call Synods and to determine of all matters Ecclesiasticall which if it be true then to what end were the assemblies of holy Fathers in former Councels these were all but superfluous So he But yet shall wee thinke that there can be so great distance betweene the Greeke Church and Protestants as to Excommunicate them or to Rebaptize any of their Profession Certes no. For Anno 1584. Ieremias Patriarke of Constantinople in his Answer to the Protestants of Wittenberge did thus farre congratulate with them saying Wee giue thankes to God the giuer of grace and reioyce with many Others that your Doctrine is in many things so consonant vnto the Doctrine of our Church And it is not long since the most Reuerend Father in God GEORGE by the Diuine Prouidence Lord Arch-Bishop of Canterburie Primate and Metropolitan of all England receiued Letters from the Greeke Patriarke of Alexandria instiling himselfe Cyrill by the Mercie of God Pope and Patriarke of the great Citie Alexandria commending one of his Monkes called Metrophanes Chrysopulus vnto the said Lord Arch Bishop of Canterburie that vnder his Patronage he â—hough otherwise learned might be exercised in our Vniuersities of England and instituted in the Rudiments of our Profession Who purposely auoiding the Romish Sect did daily frequent the publike Seruice of our Church euen as other Graecians in their trauels through England willingly vse to doe Which may iustly confute the fabulous report of Baronius concerning a late Reconciliation of the Church of Alexandria to the See of Rome And you haue no doubt heard of the Epistle to the Patriarke of Constantinople vnto the Protestant Church at Prague in Bohemia 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is Wherefore louing Brethren and Children if it be so as wee heare and hope make haste that wee may ioyne together in Vnitie So then the Graecians seeme to be as accordant with Protestants in Communion as they are dissenting from you Romans III. The Estimation which is to be had of the Greeke Church in respest of their Religion SECT 4. OVr next Question will be whether in your owne Estimation the Greeke Ghurch be worthy of Christian Communion or no. The greatest exception that some of you haue taken against them is the deniall of the Article touching the Procession of the Holy Ghost from the Sonne But another Iesuite and Cardinall will free them from the crime of Haeresie in this point The vnderstanding Greekes saith hee saying that the Holy Ghost proceedeth by the Sonne signifie thereby nothing but that which wee our selues professe So hee And indeede Faith consisteth not in the outward Syllables but in the true meaning of an Article Another Iesuite saith The Graecians are properly called Schismatikes by being dis-united from the Church meaning of Rome albeit they also become Haeretikes by denying Vnion with the Head Others doe more fauourably say that The Graecians are to be iudged Schismatikes because they withdraw themselues from the Iurisdiction of the Pope of Rome but not Haeretikes because they agree in the aforesaid Articles of Faith IV. The Extent of the Greeke Church Opposite vnto Rome as well in respect of Time as of Place SECT 5. IF you enquire into the length of Time since the Greeks haue denyed Subiection to the Church of Rome this as you haue heard confessed hath bene Alwaies If how long they haue denyed Vnion also with the same Church this is as hath bene likewise confessed about 200. yeares agoe If lastly you seeke to know the Latitude of the Greeke Church whereby you may the better guesse at their number A faithfull Seruant of God and one excellently studied in this Argument of Diuersities of Religions hath deliuered vnto vs the iust extent thereof obseruing that the Grecians acknowledge Obedience vnto the Patriarch of Constantinople vnder whose Iurisdiction are in Asia the Churches of Greece Macedonia Epirus Thracia Bulgaria Podolia Moscouia Walachia Russia together with the Ilands of the Aegean Sea a good part of Polonia Dalmatia and Croatia Countries subiect to the Turke Grecians dispersed in all these Countries together with other Greeke Churches deny the Primacy of Rome Besides the same Author addeth that the Melchytes are of the same Religion of the Grecians and the greatest Sect of Christians in the East and after a iust view taken of the number
of the Countries wherein the Greeke Religion is professed he concludeth that If the Greeke Church be compared with the now Romane excepting the new Addition of the Indians the Greeke Church would farre exceed V. Our Discouery of the extreme Impiety of your Article by way of Challenge SECT 6. YOur Article requireth a Necessity both of Subiection and of Vnion vnto the Church of Rome vpon infallible danger of Damnation In the Premises you haue before you the same Necessity of Subiection to Rome denyed by the Ancient Fathers of the Councell of Chalcedon about the yeare 450. after Christ and so continuing in the Greeke Church vnto this day and the Necessity of Vnion denyed by the same Greeke Church 200. yeares together and all this by Professors in your owne iudgement excepting for the denying of this Romish Article no Heretikes and in number Exceeding the Multitudes of them the Indians excepted and yet the Indian Conuerts if you examine their Faith are but poore Catholikes God wot who call themselues the Romane Catholikes How then shall we not accompt it a Luciferian pride in your Romane Pope to take vpon him to ascend vnto the Throne of God and to pronounce Sentence of Damnation vpon so infinite Christian soules who while your Bishops excepting their raysing of Persecutions against Protestants liue in peace and fare deliciously euery day do suffer daily grieuous and lamentable Persecutions and Oppressions vnder the Turkish tyrannie for the Gospell of Christ. What man is there in whom there are any bowells of Christianity who will not rather condemne your Article as a Praesumptuous Pernicious Sacrilegious Schismaticall Delusion and execrable Fascination of mens soules by the which they are held fast vnder that Romane thraldome A particular Instance for the Corroboration of the former Argument in Ignatius Patriarch of Constantinople SECT 7. BAronius doth present before you Ignatius the Patriarch of Constantinople who liued about the yeare of our Lord 869. in your owne iudgement An excellent man Whom notwithstanding Iohn the then Pope pronounced Excommunicate except within 30. dayes the said Ignatius should Excommunicate certaine Bishops in Bulgaria for that the Pope then made claime to that Prouince as belonging to the Romaine Church But the Popes Excommunication against Ignatius was contradicted by the Patriarchs of Alexandria and Antioch and as for Ignatius himselfe Hee is not found saith your said Cardinall to haue obeyed the Popes command Neuerthelesse God graced this Ignatius with Miracles after his death All this you haue in Baronius CHALLENGE HEre you haue to omit the Opposition of the Two other Patriarches Ignatius the Patriarch of Constantinople for ought that can be prooued to the contrary liuing and dying a person Excommunicate from the Church of Rome and notwithstanding acknowledged by you to be one worthy whose life should be Registred in the Body of your publike volume of Councells and after his death hauing the witnesse of God by his Seale of Miracles that he was his owne seruant and Saint As if you would teach vs this Syllogisme Euery one that dyeth Excommunicate out of the Church of Rome dyeth out of the Catholike Church and is consequently Damned But Ignatius a godly man in his life and blessed after his death dyed Excommunicate out of the Church of Rome Ergo the same man godly in his life time and Blessed after his death is immortally Damned Either must you thus conclude or else condemne your Article of Necessity of Subiection and Vnion to the Romane Church without which None can be saued to be iustly damnable For as for the Comment of Baronius who acknowledging him thus Excommunicate and so dying yet notwithstanding saith that he departed this life in the Popes Communion we haue nothing to say but onely Ridle me this Ridle because we are to yeeld to the truth of the Story and not vnto the figment and fancy of a Papall Commentator Our second Instance is in the Churches Christian in Assyria dis-united from Rome SECT 8. YOu haue a Narration commended by Pope Pius the 4. vnto the Councell of Trent concerning Abdisu Patriarch of the Assyrians and all Churches vnder him subiecting themselues to the Church and Pope of Rome Our intended Breuity will not permit the Repetition of so large a Narration Take vnto you summarily those Aduertisements which are proper to this Cause in hand It giueth vs to know 1. That the Nation of the Assyrians was so farre remote from Rome that At Rome it was scarce knowne that there was any Church there 2. That there was Two hundred thousand Christian Professors within the Patriarchship of Abdisu 3. That their Faith was sound and forme of worship pure and so had continued as they had receiued it in the beginning from Saint Thomas the Apostle And 4. that many of them oftentimes had suffered Martyrdome by the malice of Infidels for the profession of our Lord Christ. This and much more in the Narration made in the Councell of Trent by your Cardinall CHALLENGE THis Story is noted by our Gentillettus to be meerely Fabulous Not that there are not Christian Churches in Assyria professing the Catholike Faith and to haue so continued from the Apostolike times but that there was no such Submission of the said Churches made by Abdisu to the Pope of Rome Notwithstanding supposing the Tale of Robin-Hood to be true and granting vnto you that the said Churches of Assyria had subiected themselues to the Pope according to the Tenure of the Narration it selfe then may we lawfully dispute as Saint Paul often did though not from the truth of the thing belieued yâ—t from the Faith and credulity of the Beleeuer You therefore that belieue as the Story teacheth this Narration of a Nation of Christians continuing in the syncere Faith and holy Worship as they had receiued it from the Apostles for the space of 1500. yeares down-wards yea many of them with Constancy euen vnto death Tell vs do you beleeue that so many thousand thousands which had bene within the compasse of those times are notwithstanding Damned because they did not formally professe Subiection to the Church of Rome or not If you say they are Damned This were impiously calumnious against the Apostle Saint Thomas that taught them not your Article of the now Romane Faith If you say they are not Damned then are you damned in that your Romane Article which denounceth Damnation against all them that do not belieue that without Subiection to the Romane Catholike Church there can be no Saluation Howsoeuer you yet farre be it from vs who are Ministers of His Gospell that pronounced Saluation to them of little Faith that we should open where he shutteth by setting broad-wide the Gates of Hell to swallow vp in despaire such as hee hath called to the Profession of the Gospell of Life Our third Instance concerning Remote Nations is in other Churches Christian viz. Aegyptians Aethiopians Armenians Russians and the like
not also for Eighty yea and Eighty times Eighty if shee would so Decree II. That the Church of Rome hath sometimes a False Head SECT 14. WHich false Head may bee easily seene thorrow many holes as First to make him as you do Vniuersall Head ouer the Whole Church of Christ throughout the world is to erect a False Head as Saint Gregory once Head of the Particular Church of Rome did often teach by calling the Title and Doctrine of Vniuersall Bishop Prophane Sacrilegious Blasphemous and Antichristian 2. God neuer ordained an Head no bigger then of a wren to stand vpon the shoulders of a man and so little in respect is One Bishop of One City of Rome to bee set ouer the Church Vniâ—ersally dispersed throughout the whole world as you may guesse by the exceptions which Saint Cyprian and after him S. Augustine and the Churches wherein they liued tooke against the Bishops of Rome accompting them Incompetent Iudges in Cases of Appeale from Remote Nations by reason of the distance of places and yet their Churches in Africke might be said to be neare neighbours to Rome in respect of many farre more distant from thence therefore an Head extreamely disproportionate is a False Head 3. None call that a Necessary and liuing Head which was not created by God no more can that Ecclesiasticall Head be iudged Necessary for the Church of Christ which was not instituted by Diuine Ordinance But that the Head of the Church of Rome was not ordained by Diuinâ— Authority you haue for proofe not onely the Church Catholike in the Councell of Chalcedon but also the Romane Church it selfe in the Councell of Constance Therefore an Humane Head in pretence of a Diuine one is a False Head 4. An Head subiect to Heresie cannot be truely adequate and proper to a Body which dependeth vpon Infallibility in matters of Faith But he that will be called Vniuersall Head is obnoxious to Heresie as Pope Gregory excellently taught when he denied that either He or any Bishop in the Church ought to be called Vniuersall Bishop of the whole Church lest that the same Vniuersall Bishop falling into error the whole Church saith he might erre with him An Example of an Hereticall Pope you haue had Confessed in Honorius from the Testimonies of Romish Doctors of Ancient Fathers of Councells and of Popes themselues And certainely that cannot be but a False Head which cannot be a True Member of the Body of the Church Catholike which no Heretike as you haue confessed can be 5. You your selues admit of no Head on earth of the Visible Body of Christ that is his Church which is not also so Visible that a man may point at it vndoubtedly and Indiuidually saying of it This is the Bishop of Rome But you can haue no such Certainty of any Bishop of Rome both because his Ordination without which he cannot be truely Pope dependeth vpon the Intention of the Ordeinour than which what can be more vncertaine vnto you as also because you are often constrained to doubt of the truth of his Election For you cannot be ignorant how plentifull a matter wee haue now in hand if we intended to prosecuâ—e the manifold Examples that are extant in your owne Bookes of Popes who haue taken possession of the Romane Chaire by Intrusion One you may receiue from the Relation of your Baronius viz. of Iohn the Twelfth who was no manner of way saith he to be termed a legitimate and lawfull Pope because no law was obserued in his Election but all things carryed with terror and Violence who although by reason of his young yeeres he could not be made so much as Deacon yet did the Church honour him for her Pope accompting it a Lesse euill to tolerate one although a Monstrous Head than to be diuided into many Heads So he This is plaine dealing openly confessing what kinde of Heads your Romane Church is sometimes vnited vnto One for his life Monstrous and therefore a braine-sicke Head One for his yeeres not fit to be so much as a Deacon that is as wee may so say an Elbow of the Church is made Head Chiefe Pastor thereof therefore a braine-lesse Head One that is an Intruder and No-way a lawfull Pope and therefore nothing lesse than a true Head because an Example differing from your Rule which your Iesuite Salmeron confesseth to be this To beleeue with a Diuine or Infallible Faith THIS singular and Indiuidual man to bee our Pope who is defined by the Electors yet so that it doth not appeare that there was any defect or fault in his Election But behold heere is one with a Constat that there was nothing but Defects in his entrance because no law of iust Election was obserued therein and yet notwithstanding acknowledged and honoured as true Pope of your Romane Church 6. As the Body cannot boast of Vnion with a Head that is Headlesse no more can an Head be truely so called which is Bodilesse But we haue proued that that which you call Principally the Church of Rome as resident at Rome shall haue no being and therefore be no Bodie in Rome namely when-as the City of Rome shall be the Seate of Antichrist CHALLENGE ALas my Masters what meane you will you needs condemne your selues and your whole Romane Church by your owne Faith Your Article is to Beleeue with an Infallible Faith One singular man to be the True Pope of Rome and Vniuersall Pastor hauing Monarchicall power in the Church wherein by the word Vniuersall you condemne the Romane Church as it was in the daies of Pope Pelagius the Second and Pope Gregory the First both which held the Title of Vniuersall as execrable and anti-Anti-christian By Monarchicall and absolute power you condemne the Romane Church in the daies of Pope Damasus who held himselfe no Competent Iudge in Cases fore-iudged by a Prouinciall Councell By True you condemne the Romane Church in the daies of Pope Iohn the Twelfth which acknowledged for her Pope Him whom shee knew to bee euery way Vnlawfully possessed of the Popedome and therefore no True Pope Yet what maruell if they doubt not to obey false Pastors who daily Worship false Saints By Romane you condemne that Christian Church which shall be in the daies of Antichrist when-as the City of Rome from whence the Denomination of Romane is deriued shall be the Seate of Antichrist And by beleeuing Hunc This Indiuiduall Pope to bee verily the Pope with that Infallible Faith wherewith you beleeue any thing necessary to Saluation you condemne here-in the Romane Church throughout the whole Succession thereof from Saint Peter to this day and therein also your owne soules in professing that to bee Infallible which by reason of many defects both in the Ordination and Election of any Pope is knowne to be full of Fallibilities and vncertainties as all your owne Historians doe proue and as will bee further euident
none but Ignorants For your fuller Satisfaction herein We thought good vpon Contemplation of the Premisses to descend vnto this DETERMINATION of the Cause which wee shall performe punctually by certaine Theses or Positions by which are repelled those Popular Obiections which you vsually cast as Impediments in our way This Tractate then we diuide into foure parts I. Concerning All Churches in generall II. Particularly comparing the Romane Church with other now Remote Churches III. Comparing her with the Churches of Protestants at the time of LVTHERS departure from her IV. Comparing her with the Churches of Protestants at this day The first part of Comparison which is by Generall Theses I. THESIS An Absolute Decay of the Catholike Church was neuer defended by any Protestants SECT 2. MAny Papists in their aduersnesse to Protestants whom they seeke to traduce do impute vnto them this faithlesse Paradox as to say that the Catholike Church is sometime extinguished whereas Caluine and other Protestants grant saith your Cardinall that the Catholike Church cannot perish And therefore he telleth those MANY that they do but Loose their time in proouing the perpetuall existence of the Catholike Church Hee might as well haue noted in them a Losse of good Conscience by their falsly imposing vpon Protestants a false Doctrine which they neuer taught as you may more perfectly see afterwards by a Sentence of Caluin himselfe II. THESIS The Church Symbolicall and properly called Catholike cannot erre in Faith SECT 3. THat wee call the Symbolicall and properly Catholike Church as it is Militant which is set downe in the Apostles Symbol or Creed beleeued of all Christians viz. The multitude of all Christian Beleeuers whensoeuer and wheresoeuer dispersed through-out the world vnto which belong all those Royall Promises made by Christ vnto her of being Led into all truth Ioh. 16. Of hauing his residence with it Vnto the ends of the world Matth. 28. Of Hell-gates not preuailing against it Matth. 16. Neuer shall you find any Protestant gain-saying this Truth III. THESIS How the Church Representatiue improperly called the Catholike Church may bee said to be subiect to Errour SECT 4. THe Church improperly called Catholike is the Congregation of Christians assembled in a Generall Synod as being the Representatiue body of the Church in the Symbol properly called Catholike whereof wee say no more than Saint Augustine spake to wit that Sometimes former Generall Councels may be corrected by the latter Vnto which sentence of Augustine you could not hitherto giue any Answer but that which Saint Augustine if he were aliue would say is directly contradictory to his meaning For Augustine saith your Cardinall spake not of matter of Faith but of Fact nor of a point of Doctrine but of Manners Whereas the whole dispute of Augustine in that place is about a Doctrine of Faith Whether there can be true Baptisme in a false Church And what hath Saint Augustine said herein which Some of your owne Romish Schoole haue not thorowly auouched viz. that Generall Councels rightly gathered haue erred and that A Generall Councell so erring doth not preiudice the Catholike Church Because A Generall Councell is not the Catholike Church but onely a part thereof Which erring yet notwithstanding Some of the Church shall be still assisted to vphold the truth So they Nor doth this any whit impeach the Promise of Christ to wit * Whensoeuer two or three shall be gathered together in my Name there I will be in the middest of them For Christ promising his presence to all Christians Assembled in his Name did not thereby promise that all Christian Assemblies should be gathered in his Name duly that is with sincere hearts to inuocate him and to subscribe to his reuealed Truth It was an Academicall and Scepticall Paradox to say that because one Sense might be deceiued therefore no Sense was to be belieued Whereunto the Answer was that euery Sense as it might be deceiued so might it also be not deceiued if requisite Circumstances were duely obserued as namely if the Organ and Instrument were sound the Medium rightly disposed the Obiect proper the Distance due and proportionable Accordingly in Councels if the persons assembled as it were the Organs be sincerely affected to Gods glorie with desire of Truth as their proper Obiect and in the maior part thereof not led with the spirit of Contention and Faction which is the Cause of vnequall difference and Distance and if their Diaphanum and Medium be illuminated with the true light as Saint Peter calleth the holy Scripture Then is it not possible for such an Assembly to erre in any principle of Faith So then the difference betweene the Romane Church and the Church of the Protestants is no more but this that the Romanists say that all Generall Councels may erre except they bee confirmed and authorized by the Pope but Protestants say that all Generall Councels may erre except they be directed by the Spirit of Gods word as our Church of England hath truly defined In which difference we seeke no other moderation than the iudgement of the first fiue Generall Councels which in points of Faith propounded to themselues the holy Scripture as the onely Rule of their Doctrines esteemed of the Popes iudgement no otherwise than of a particular suffrage and in it selfe but equall excepting the Dignitie of Order vnto the voices of other Patriarches and Bishops as hath bene prooued IV. THESIS Protestants hold not any greater Inuisibilitie or rather Obscuritie of the Church Catholike than that which the Romanists themselues are forced to confesse SECT 5. NOt but that many of you pretend and boast of a Catholike Church not onely Visible but also Conspicuously and notoriously Visible alwaies both in the Amplitude of compasse and in the Multitude of Beleeuers as the Perpetuall note of the Church which our Sauiour Christ compareth to a Citie set vpon a hill And you are not ignorant of the Epistle which Mr. Fisher a Iesuite presented not long agoe vnto our late Soueraigne King Iames of blessed memorie wherein he professeth a Catholike Church to be alwaies so conspicuous that The whole knowne world may take notice of her yea euen in the dayes of Antichrist shall she be visibly vniuersall for she shall be then euery-where persecuted which she could not bee except she were euery where Visible So He Who neuer regarded that the Church of Christ as it is sometime in lustre glorious as the Sunne so againe it is according to the iudgement of Saint Augustine and Saint Ambrose sometime as the Moone which hath her encreases and decreases In which respect we are to obserue two Seasons of the Church the one long since past in the dayes of that Deluge of the Arian Heresie the other prophesied to happen in the dayes of Antichrist Of both which as well Fathers as your owne Authors say as much concerning the Ecclipse and obscurity of
world But your Church of Rome onely diuideth it selfe peremptorily from the Communion of all other such Christian Churches Ergo it is the most Schismaticall of all other Herein plainely like to Ismael whose hand was against euerie man and euery man 's against him Vntill you shall be able to answer this Argument you are bound to forbeare the obiecting to any Church Christian Schisme from the Catholike Church and consequently Separation from Saluation in Christ. When wee talke of a Schismaticall Church we may not let passe the recognition of the manifold ruptures and Schismes of the Romane Church in her owne wombe where wee haue seen not Iacob and Esau strugling for birth-right each with other onely but as it were a rough Esau sometimes of Two or rather a Cerberus and Hydra sometimes of Three heads striuing one against another for the prerogatiue of Popedome euen for the space of fortie or fiftie yeares together Sometimes the pretended Head the Pope fighting with his whole Body Representatiue in a Councell for the right of Supreame iudgement as you haue heard In a word shee hath almost at all times beene so presumptuous by Excommunicating Primitiue Successiue and Moderne Churches which were not subordinate vnto her and so often distracted in her selfe as if all the Waters of Marah for so we may call Schisme had exonerated and emptied themselues into the Romane See Thus much of the second Part by Comparing the Church of Rome with Remote Churches The Third Part of this DETERMINATION concerneth the Departure of Protestant Churches from Rome occasioned by MARTIN LVTHER SECT 13. HEre wee enter into the maine question of Luther his departure from Rome which hath occasioned your impetuous and clamorous out-cries against him as against an vnpardonable and damnable Schismatike and thereupon in all your Conferences and Disputes you exact of Protestants an Answer to your popular Octiections as of What Where was Then Your Church Who were Your Professours What were Their Names and What is become of Your Ancestors with the like Wee now desire you but to haue so much patience till we collect our diuerse Theses and in the end you will finde we hope that vpon a full Reckoning we shall be indebted vnto you iust nothing at all THESIS I. LVTHER was vniustly Excommunicated out of the Romane Church SECT 14. IF the odiousnesse of the very name of Luther among you haue not engendred so obstinate a preiudice in you as not willingly to heare or trie the iustice of his Cause then are we without all doubt perswaded that you your selues will iustifie his Departure out of the Church of Rome Not to spend time Luther his Excommunication by Pope Leo must haue beene either for Manners or Doctrine but it was not for any exorbitancy in his life Who as is testified of him was accounted a good man euen of his very Enemies Which kinde of Certificate is the most exact approbation of all others as Moses shewed when he made this kinde of Appeale saying Our Enemies being Iudges By which it may appeare what difference of Enemies the Church of Rome hath hatched whose Professors in the dayes of Luther himselfe were so ingenuous as to esteeme him a Godly man Since when haue risen vp spirits of a lying malignancie that haue blurred and bespotted his life with all the reproachfull Notes of monstrous infamy as if hee had had Familiarity with the Diuell and was a Wine-bibber But The Seruant is not better than his Master saith our Sauiour Christ to his owne Disciples If therefore the Irreligious haue called Christ himselfe familiar with Beelzebub and a Friend to Publicanes and Sinners were they Drunkards or the like what Christian must pleade exemption from the virulencie of venemous mouthes But why doe wee busie our selues with Impertinencie wee proceed to his Doctrine concerning which we are to enquire into the principall Cause of his Excommunication The First and principall Cause of Luther's Opposition against the Pope of Rome without which he had not beene Excommunicated was the point of Papall Indulgences wherein he condemned the iniquitie of the Popes practise and the falshood and impietie of his Doctrine herein as will be testified by a cloud of witnesses First is the Iniquity and iniurie done in the dayes of Luther by the craft of Papall Indulgences howbeit at the First hearing of this Accusation your Cardinall waxing somewhat cholericke steppeth forth desirous as a feed-man to be heard speake in the Pope his Masters behalfe and calleth it A Calumnie of Luther and such like Nouellists to say that the Popes heape vp riches by the art of Indulgences So hee Oh the forehead of some kinde of men to denie that which the Germane Nation at and before the dayes of Luther cried out vpon As being a burthen intollerable wherewith the Popes vnder the colour of pietie extract the very marrow of moneys out of mens purses Whereof your Fathers of the Councell of Trent tooke notice to wit that the Popes Officers in collecting money for Indulgences gaue a Scandall to all faithfull Christians which might seeme to be without all hope of Remedie And which your Venetian Doctor will haue you to obserue to haue beene the First Cause of Luther his Opposition It is now euident to all men saith hee and Histories on all sides write hereof that the Separation made an hundred yeares agoe by the Protestants in Germanie arose from the vnlawfull Exactions and the immoderate grants of Indulgences This then was the first point in the matter of Romish Indulgences which moued Luther to preach against them euen the Iniquitie of the practice thereof The Second point is the Falshood of the Doctrine of Indulgences whereof your Cardinall testifieth saying The first Cause of Luther's diuiding himselfe from Rome was the Popes pronouncing Him an Heretike for inueighing against Indulgences So hee And for that his gain-saying the Doctrine of Indulgences saith Polydore the Popes Proctors conueied the name of Luther to Rome where hee is accused and because hee appeared not at the day hee was declared an Heretike So hee Now then according to the stile of all Iudiciall Courts let vs first heare the Accusation and then allow vnto him to Answer for himselfe His Accusation is laid downe in Pope Leo's Bull against him This Luther maintaineth as a thing most certaine that it is not in the power of the Church to appoint new Articles of Faith This was his Crime now heare his answer I saith Luther haue plainly protested that if they would not haue constrained me to allow of their impious and blasphemous Articles I should haue defended a great part of their Episcopall Iurisdiction but needes would they compell vs to approue of their Satanicall lies and therefâ—re disdainfully despised mee for blowing away for indeede they were but bubbles the Popes Bulls and Indulgences So Luther What hath Luther said in all this which
did as one that had bene freed take another wife by the authority of the Church and consent of her Parents by which wife after some yeares he had children But loe his former wife vnlooked for returneth againe and requireth to haue her husband againe that had done ill in marrying another The man maruailing hereat and being loath to be diuorced from his latter wife maketh long delaies yet at length brought into Law and being cast gaue way to the Truth and taketh his first wife againe by the iudgement of the Church When now the Parents friends of the latter wife made the like wonderment as these men do against me saying vnto him thou hel-hound thou wicked couenāt-breaker c. And if a man would consider this businesse shall he not see as it were in a glasse the very image of that Husband in me For indeed I seeing I beleeued that no such Truth of obedience had bene c. I compelled my selfe in a second Couenant and thereto plighted my troth Wherefore I thought that I had kept lawfull Companie but when the TRVTH came which is euery mans first wife maried to him in publike Baptisme which wil require the first Promise at al mens hands to her I applyed to her I cleaued and from my second knot as of none effect by the iudgement of my Church I departed And shall any man thinke it indifferent that I shall be called a Liar because I obey the Truth c. I am by most graue iudgement of the Truth diuorced from the Church of Rome which it was not lawfull for me to keepe still and am compelled to take my wife TRVTH to me when she cometh againe Thus farre B. Gardiner The right and accurate Sence of this Similitude may as the beames of the Sunne dispell the foggie myst of Romish error concerning the Question we now haue in hand it being taken from the consideration of our Christian Vow made in Baptisme Wherein we are to obserue the Parties betrothed together which are the Soule of a Christian and the Truth of God in Christ and secondly the Parties and if I may so say Parents by whose consent and Authoritie this mariage is made which in the inward is our Father euen GOD in the vnity of Three persons Father Sonne and holy Ghost and in the outward is our spirituall Mother mentioned in our Creed at the rime of our Vow in Baptisme The holy Catholike Church It especially therefore concerneth euery Votarie that hath vowed himselfe in Baptisme to learne to acknowledge his true Father his true Mother and his owne true Wife For Father he is baptized in the name of the Blessed Trinitie in the vnity of one God euerlasting not in the name of any man whatsoeuer as Saint Paul prooueth against the Schismatikes in the Church of Corinth that would seeme Some to hold of Cephas that is Peter Some of Paul as though the Gospell or Truth were Pauls or Peters he answereth them No his Reason is interrogatiuely Were you baptized in the name of Paul As much as to say He onely is essentially your spirituall Father in whose Name you are baptized Secondly the Mother is mentioned in our Vow at Baptisme to be The holy Catholike or Vniuersall Church not any particular Church though by the particular Church I am brought into the Catholike We say not any Particular Church because euery Particular Church as hath beene Confessed may possibly erre and Apostate from Truth But the Catholike is built vpon a Rocke immoueable as the earth yea or the highest heauens Lastly the Wife whereunto euery Soule is betroathed in Baptisme is onely that Truth which was first reuealed by Christ vnto his Apostles as the Apostle teacheth If any preach any other Gospell than that which you haue receiued that is to say already hold him Accursed Now giue vs leaue to trie what kind of Mariage is made by your Votaries in the Church of Rome First by beleeuing the Infallibility of the Pope in whatsoeuer Reuelations which he shall propound to be beleeued of all Christians it is to assume a new Father which is thus prooued If I saith Saint Paul or an Angel from heauen preach otherwise let him be Accursed but who in all the Church of Rome will say Though the Pope teach vs otherwise then was Apostolically and Primitiuely taught from the immediate Doctrine of Christ I shall account him Anathema Next the Partie baptized in your Church is Catechized to beleeue the Church of Rome to be The Catholike and Mother-Church of all other Churches which wee through-out this Treatise haue prooued to be an Imposterous Schismaticall and Blasphemous Article First Imposterous because The Catholike Church mentioned in the Apostles Creed was extant in the dayes of the Apostles diuerse yeares before Rome was that we may so say Baptized to haue the name of a Church Secondly Schismaticall because it being as hath bene shewed but a Particular Church and vsurping the Title of The Catholike Church doth thereby peremptorily diuide her selfe from All other Churches of Christ which both for Truth and Extent make a farre more Catholike Church than she is Thirdly Blasphemous in Damning by this Article of the Catholike Romane Church all the most glorious Christian Fathers Martyrs Professors and Churches as well Primitiue as Successiue which are infinite that haue denyed Subiection to the Romane Church All which Particulars haue bene prooued at large In the last place each Christian in Baptisme being espoused to his wife Truth which can be but One euen that whereof Saint Paul spoke saying That which you haue receiued before and accordingly Saint Iude Contend for the Faith which once was deliuered to the Saints therefore euery other New Article of Faith as it were a later Consort and wife that shall bee admitted is no true loyall wife but an vnlawfull Concubine and strumpet So then so many Concubines may the Church of Rome be said to betroath her Children vnto as she hath set downe New Articles in her Romane Creed and imposed vpon all her Ecclesiastikes vnder the bond of an Oath Among which is your Article of Indulgences from which as from a supposititious wife Luther necessarily made his diuorce returning vnto the Primitiue Truth whereunto in holy Baptisme he had formerly plighted his Troth THESIS VI. Your Second and most Popular Obiection against LVTHER in his Opposition to your Romane Church vrging in him to prooue his Doctrine by immediate Succession and by Naming his Teachers Before him is as fond as the other SECT 19. I. FOr the no-Necessitie of Name we reade first that our Sauiour Christ answering a question concerning Diuorce whether it were lawfull for the husband to put away his wife at his pleasure or no an Abuse which by the hardnesse of the Iewes hearts had continued among them many hundred yeares sendeth them to Gods first Institution of Marriage set downe in the beginning of Scripture saying From the beginning it
was not so But how Flat contrary Therefore shall a man leaue Father and Mother and cleaue to his wife and they shall be one flesh Willingly passing ouer all mention or meaning of any former Teacher for the space of thousands of yeares Teaching vs thereby first that there can be no truer Doctors than Gods word secondly no better Argument than Proofe that It was not so from the beginning II. Saint Cyprian being busied in a Question concerning Baptisme Wee are not to regard saith he what any hath done before vs but what he did who is before all Christ our Lord not following the Custome of men but the Truth of God III. Suarez your most celebrious Spanish Iesuite and publike Professor Sometimes saith he we know the beginning of a Tradition onely Negatiuely because it may appeare that sometime it was not so neare the beginning of the Church So he in your publike Schooles teaching you that if it may be shewed concerning any Doctrinall Tradition that there was a time neare to the beginning of the Church namely in the dayes of the Apostles when it was not taught it will bee a sufficient Confutation therof to proue it to be but an humane Inuention without any further enquirie after the Names of Persons who in succeeding ages haue gone before vs. IV. An Example we may take from your owne former Relation of a Tradition professed by Pope Innocentius the first who taught that The administration of the Sacrament of the Eucharist was necessary to Infants for their Saluation Which doctrine and practize continued about 600. yeares in the Church namely of Rome but since is reiected thereby So you Here had bene a Matter for your Obiectors to haue argued vpon if they had liued at the end of those 600. yeares when this Error was first reiected Would they haue said Shew vs that any Fathers by name for 600. yeares passed euer taught the contrary or else we must continue this custome still Thus should they condemne the Present Church of Rome which hath reiected that Custome Or would they haue said We regard not the time of the Continuance thereof for so many hundred yeeres seeing it may bee prooued that before that time there was no such Doctrine And the Institution of Christ which requireth Remembrance in them that partake of this Sacrament doth instruct vs otherwise And so must they as they ought condemne the former Romane Church in the daies of Innocentius and from henceforth silence themselues in exacting the Names of Persons who immediately before that time had taught the Contrarie because according to your Iesuites Confession it is lawfull in such a Case to proceed Persaltum Negatiuely saying It was not so neare the beginning of the Church Ergo it is not a necessarie Tradition Which was the very Apologie that Luther made against the doctrine of Indulgences in his first Opposition against your Church of Rome and the same is the defence of Protestants in their whole Profession at this day V. But supposing a Necessity of Names why aske Yov names As though the Church of Rome had beene then The Catholike Church without which there was none then or before the daies of Luther who reiected the doctrine of Romish Indulgences and of Papall Iurisdiction as well as he when as you haue heard there were euen since the Apostles times the Churches of the Grecians Aethiopians Aegyptians Assyrians Russians and indeed a world of faithfull Christians that wanted not names who Communicated not with the Church of Rome And what meaneth this Importunity or rather peruersnes to seeke for that which is by your owne Historians set before your eyes the Protesters against your Romish Nouelties before Luther whom they call Albigenses Waldenses Wiclefians Hussites c. Could these bee so called by your selues who persecuted them vnder these names without Names Yet know that this diuersity of Names may not argue the Sects and differences of their Religion no more than many names giuen vnto the same Riuer passing through diuers countries can argue a diuersity of the streames But these Professors and their Names you may vnderstand if you will reade Them who haue purposely entreated of this Subiect who are furnished with answers and can shew you out of your owne Authors their Innocent conuersation of life their Multitudes in number their Consent and Constancie in their Profession by enduring of Imprisonments banishment deaths and whatsoeuer Cruelties your Inquisitors could inflict on them And were these then Namelesse trowe you VI. And if this may not content you what then if we shall name them Romanes for such were Luther Melancthon and other Protestants at the beginning of their Opposition as sound Members of an vnfound Particular Church from whence it was lawfull and necessary for them to depart as hath beene proued Thus much in confutation of your Vulgar Obiection by Six Answers which deserueth onely this briefe Answer It is friuolous and superfluous THESIS VII Your Obiection That all Changes of Doctrines haue beene Notorious in the Persons and Places of their first Beginnings is false SECT 20. A principall Obiection wherewith your Cardinall doth colourably delude his Disciples is this In al Changes of doctrines in any Church the tokens there are visible in the Author Time Place and Person oppugning the same So he that so hee may iustifie many Errors which must therefore seeme Truths because there is none of these visible Notes of Changes to discouer them We answer that this your Obiection conctradicteth the ordinarie growth of Heresie the experience of former Heretikes the Changes of Doctrine in the Romish Church and the Confession of your owne Schooles I. The nature of Heresie as Saint Paul describeth it 2. Tim. 2.17 is like a Cancer or Gangraena By which as you know both the Greeke and Latines vnderstand that vlcer which is bredd in womans papps which if it be not preuented doth putrifie by by little and little vntill it possesse all the parts of the Body Therefore an insensible groweth at the beginning II. The experience of an hundred Heresies whose Authors haue not beene notorious might bee propounded vnto you but that taste may suffice which your owne Prateolus doth offer vnto you by an Instance in the Abstinents of which Heretikes it is not remembred saith he what time they liued In the Acephali of which kinde saith he the first Author is not found In the Aquarij whose Author saith he is not mentioned by any And in the Predestinati whose first leader saith he is not knowne Wee migh reckon vp the Alogiani Anthropomorphitae Aphthratodocitae Collyridiani Gnostici Concerning all whom and many others as the Angelici Apostolici Cainani Catharistae Ophitae Passionistae because you your selues cannot tell vs from whom they first arose or By whom they were impugned it appeareth that you obiect you know not what III. And as though forsooth no such Gangrene or disease could be found in the
bodie of your Church how then to speake onely from your owne Confessions hath growne the opinion of the foresaid Necessity of the Administration of the of the Eucharist vnto Infants not onely with no Opposition but euen with the great approbation of your Popes how your Custome of Communicating but in one kinde whereof you your selues grant a Non constat or Ignoramus when it first began Whereas for a Thousand yeeres cantinuance the Contrarie was held as you know in the Catholike Church yea and in the Romane Church it selfe Or how will you answer for the Corruption of your Romane Worship whereof wee haue your Fathers in the Councell of Trent decreeing that Because many Corruptions haue crept into the celebration of the Romane Masse either by the errour of the time or negligence and improbity of men therefore an order must bee taken to purge them So They. Are not diseases diseases because we can but coniecture the first Cause or time of their being The former Confession of your Professor and Iesuite before pointed at now set downe at large wil giue vs the vpshot Some Traditions saith he are perpetual in time euen from the beginning of the Church Others are onely temporall the beginning whereof may be knowne somtimes positiuely what time they began and sometimes onely negatiuely by being able to shew what time neere the beginning of the Church such a custome or doctrine had no being though afterwards it was inuented Whereby it may be iustly collected that such a Tradition had it's beginning after the Apostles albeit the certaine and determinate time in which it began be not knowne Which Tradition because it is not vniuersall in time it cannot beget any Catholike beleefe So he euen such an He whom your Romane Church esteemeth for the most eminent general both Doctor and Proctor of her Cause at this day By which Sentence are auoided both your former Obiections of the Necessity of giuing of Names of Authors before Luther and of demonstrating the Time Persons and Place of the beginning of Errors in the Church As also there is reached vnto Protestants a strong engine to the vtter ouerthrowe of your now Romane Creed consisting of more then 12. new Articles concerning Worshipping of Images Purgatory Indulgences and the like which can neuer be shewed to haue sprung in the ages af Antiquity bordering on the Apostles time and therfore according to this former true and necessary Rule set downe by your Iesuite can beget no Catholike Beleefe THESIS VIII Your last Obiection of Continuall and Personall Succession in all Ages is frustrate SECT 21. LEst that Succession and not Succession may seeme to alter the Case because the Romane Church is by Personall Succession of Catholike Pastors the Protestant Church is by Secession and Departure whereas true Succession doth manifest a true Church euen as no true Succession doth notifie a false Church as you vse to say you need doe no more but cast your eyes vpon your owne Historians who reporting the great deluge of that horrible Heresie of the Arrians declare that in the most Churches Christian â—he true and Orthodoxe Bishops were remoued out of their Bishopricks and cast into Banishment As for example the Chiefe Patriarks Liberius out of Rome Athanasius out of Alexandria Paulus out of Constantinople c. Againe the Wheele of God's prouidence turning backwards the Arian Heretikes lost their Bishopricks and Patriarkships the Orthodoxe and Catholike Professors succeeding in their places We demand will you then indeed say that Succession in place is absolutely an affirmatiue Note of a true Church How then shall those Churches bee iudged Hereticall wherein Arians immediately succeeded Catholikes Or is not Succession negatiuely a Note of no true Church How then were not the Churches false wherein Catholikes immediately succeeded Heretikes So then if you pronounce any Church true by the Succession of Persons onely you doe but waste your winde if by the Succession of Doctrine then Luther's doctrine being truly Apostolicall his Church cannot be but truly Catholike The Fourth and last part of this DETERMINATION concerneth the state of the Churches of Protestants after the daies of Luther and their more iust Cause of Continuing this Separation from Rome SECT 22. WHy should we not thinke that after our iustification of the first Departure of Protestants from the Church of Rome you should expect some Addition for the Defence of our Continuance of that Separation lest otherwise some might surmize that now sure the Councell of Trent pretending a Generall reformation of all Abuses the Protestants might haue iuster Cause to re-unite themselues to the Church of Rome THESIS I. Protestants are Generally Excommunicated by the Church of Rome SECT 23. YOur Pope of Rome doth by his Bulls yearely bellow out his Excommumications Anathematismes or Curses by name against all Lutherans Caluinists Hugonots and all Protestants together with all their Defenders Fauourers Receiuers Readers of their Bookes without speceall Licence whosoeuer they be THESIS II. Protestants are Vniustly Excommunicated SECT 24. ALl the Causes for which Scripture hath authorized a Departure from any visible Church do accordingly iustifie our Separation from the Church of Rome I. Falshood by Creation of a new Creede consisting of so many Articles II. To a false Faith is ioyned false Worship by Idolatrie not onely by the vulgar in Worshipping of Relikes Images and Saints Idolatrously as is witnessed by your selues but also generally by the Adoration of your Romish Moloch in the Masse Wherein that which after Consecration you adore take it at the best is but a Christ as you teach voide of all sence naturall power of motion and facultie of vnderstanding Which Doctrine touching the glorified body of Christ Wee thinke to be Blasphemous Take it as it may possibly be and then by your owne generall Confession in all probabilitie Fiue hundred to one after Consecration the thing you adore is but Bread still which is a possible yea and as you your selues tearme it a materiall Idolatrie And take it as we are ready to proue to wit that it is infallibly still euen after Consecration the substance of Bread and consequently your Adoration is really necessarily and formally Idolatrous All these points are to be fully prooued in a Treatise to be intituled CHRIST HIS MASSE which in due time may salute you in like manner as this doth if God permit III. To Heresie and Idolatrie your Church ioyneth Obstinacie not that wee can denie but that the Fathers of the Councell of Trent decreed A safe Conduct and full securitie to all Protestants in Germanie to come to that Councell and according to the tenure of that same Decree To propound whether by word or writing what Articles they would and with free libertie to dispute thereof So they And was not this a Fatherly Consideration shall Wee thinke but your Thuanus will tell you of diuerse Protestants that came to
the Councell desiring of the Popes Legates to haue liberty to dispute according to the former Decree When One of them Exhibiting their ioynt Confession to the whole Councell assembled published the same whereat saith your Historian the Fathers of the Councell were greatly offended then after it was made knowne that the Protestants were ready to defend their Confession But they could haue no answer to it and therefore desired leaue to be gone which assuredly obtained they commended their Cause to the Emperours Oratour and departed from the Councell Where are now our great Disputers of Rome who can teach Protestants Logicke and all manner learning as you vse to boast if euer they ought to appeare then doubtlesse in their generall Synod when the most selected Schollers were assembled for the discussion of al Questions Iohn Husse in the Councell of Constance had safe-Conduct to come and Dispute for himselfe but that was all for that Conduct was but a trap to catch him in and so to burne him as they did In the Councell of Trent the Protestants are promised with their safe-Conduct a libertie of Disputation but are not allowed it when they offer themselues yet no sooner almost are they come but they are saluted by your Tridentines as Christ was by the Gadarenes when they wished him to depart out of their coasts What greater argument can there be of a perfidious promise then to grant a Disputation vnder a solemne Instrument in the name of the Pope and the whole Councell in pretence of Satisfaction to all Consciences and not to performe it or of Impotencie in your Cause than not to indure to haue it discussed or yet of Obstinacy in your Errours than to reiect the ordinary meanes of Detecting them allowed vnto all Aduersaries in all ancient Councels This directly confirmeth the Censure which that Phoenix of learning Master Isaac Casaubon gaue of your Church Hee is fouly deceiued saith hee whosoeuer hee be that will be a Medijst thinking that there can be any Reconciliation with the Church of Rome a thing to be vtterly despaired of To all the former Crimes your Church addeth Tyrannie your Positions are Excommunications to all that denie Subiection to the man of Rome After Excommunications come Eradications against States Lawes and Kingdomes by Conspiracies Rebellions and all hostile Machinations yea and against whatsoeuer inferiour Persons whensoeuer there is abilitie either by generall Massacres or by particular torments Nor are your hands shorter than your tongues for As wee haue heard so haue wee seene KINGS wallowing in their gore-blood shed by your desperate Assassines Rebellions Seditions and Combustions in all Christian Kingdomes haue beene raysed by the fierie spirits of the Disloyall Ignatians a Massacre in France for Crueltie as witnesseth your owne Historian not to be parallelled by any example in all the antiquitie of former times But you would not that England should be lesse noble than France in the excellencie of your mischiefe witnesse your Acheronticall POVVDER-PLOTT for the destruction of the three Estates of this whole Kingdome an Example beyond all examples of ages past and for the hainousnesse thereof hardly credible in the generations to come Adde hereunto your Inquisition now established in the most parts of the Romish Iurisdiction by Pope Paul the Fourth as The onely fortresse of Popedome and esteemed the chiefest meanes to preserue the Romish Profession what is it but that Lion's Denne to all them that are caught except they shall abiure the Doctrine of Protestants Vestigia nulla retrorsùm THESIS III. In the Continuance of this Separation Papists are rather Schismatikes than Protestants and consequently in the Heresie of the Donatists SECT 25. GLadly would your Cardinall make an alliance betweene the Schismaticall Donatists and Protestants be you so good as heare his Charge The Donatists saith hee held that the Church Catholike consisted onely of iust persons whence they concluded that the whole visible Church was perished vpon earth and that it was onely in Africa where they were Well but what is this to the Tenent of Protestants Caluinists likewise saith hee hold the whole visible Church of Christ to haue perished for diuers ages and that now it is onely in the Northerne parts among themselues So hee But how truely and conscionably Caluin himselfe will proue in reprouing your Romane Church for Magnifying her selfe as being the onely Church on earth and for not acknowledging the Churches of Africke of Aegypt of Asia and other Christian Churches And dare you say saith Caluin that the Church is wholly perished which was among the Graecians Thus plainly sheweth Caluin that his opinion was not to denie the African Aegyptian Asian and Graecian Churches to haue continued visible parts of the Catholike Church Trie wee in the next place what affinitie the Church of Rome may seeme to haue with the Schismaticall Donatists Saint Augustine as your Cardinall confesseth did iustly deride the Donatists for that they from the mysticall speech in the Canticles concerning the Church the Spouse of Christ saying Tell mee where my beloued lieth at noone day gathered that the Catholike Church remained onely in Africke And is not this your Article viz. The Catholike Romane Church without vnion and subiection whereunto there is no Saluation a manifest appropriation of a Priuiledge proper to Rome as remaining alwayes a Catholike Church The Differences are They challenged this Prerogatiue as due to Africke in the South you to the Romane Church in the West They erred by a false Interpretation of a Text of Scripture which was of mysticall Signification In meridie you from another of figuratiue Sence Tu es Petrus super hanc Petram as though it were ment necessarily of Peter or if so did Consequently authorize the Pope Both which haue beene confuted as egregiously false As for the Reason of the Donatists Separation from the other constituted Churches in Africa that which was the true marke of a Schismatike it was without iust Cause when they neither did nor could obiect either errour in Doctrine or Superstition in worshipping or tyranny constraining men to oppose the ancient truth but especially That which Cannot be a iust Cause the mixture of godly and wicked Professours in one Communion If you shall require any further iustification of this our Separation and euidence that herein your Romanists are the Schismatikes recall to minde that which hath beene said hereof in a former Section THESIS IV. In the Continuance of this Separation the Vnion of Protestants with the Catholike Church is both more True and more Vniuersall than is the Vnion of the Romanists SECT 26. TRue vnion We call only that which is only in Gods truth and for Truths sake otherwise as S. Hilarie saith It is not vnion of faith but of perfidiousnesse nor Christian communion but Antichristian conspiracie and coniuration Vniust Vnities there are many among men the first of compulsion and terror which may
be called Vnio Leonina as when beasts for awe of the Lion goe in troopes and follow at his becke The Second is Vulpina a craftie combination made and maintained by Foxes The Third is Asinina the heard of seely Ignorants Loud and frequent are the boasts of your Catholike Vnion neuer regarding whether it haue the Characters of these kindes of Vnions now spoken of although that none can bee more Tyrannous than that which as you haue beene instructed by Pope Paul the IV. vseth the extent of the Inquisition as the onely Fortresse and support thereof None more craftie than that Church which is fed at home as with naturall sustenance with false Legends and fained Miracles and preserued abroad with Aequiuocations and Mentall Reseruations and specially by Politike Maximes for alterations of States Lastly there can be no greater blockishnesse than to be wholly guided by an Implicit faith of beleeuing you know not what according to your COLIERS FAITH which because it seemeth so commendable vnto your Cardinall Hosius I will deliuer it in his owne words It will be most safe saith he to follow the Example of a certaine Colier of whom when a learned man asked him for his soules behoofe what he beleeued hee repeated the Apostles Creed and being asked what hee beleeued more said that which the Catholike Church beleeueth But what quoth the other doth the Catholike Church beleeue that which I beleeue quoth the Colier The other being still vrgent the Colier vsed the same Circle and made no other Answer than that hee beleeued as the Church beleeued and the Church the same that hee beleeued Some while after it happened that the same learned man was by sickenesse in danger of death at what time Sathan tempted him vrging him what was his beliefe insomuch that he poore wretch was not able sufficiently to expresse himselfe but calling to minde the Coliers Answer hee himselfe made no other Answer to the Diuell than this AS THE COLIER Confessing afterwards that hee had bin dangerously assaulted had not this example of the Colier holpen him Thus farre your Cardinall of your Colier like an Horse in a Milne going all in a round as if he would teach you that this Implicit Faith were the onely safe Circle God blesse you to keepe out the Diuell Wherein you are little inferior to the Iewish Rabbines who taught their Disciples To haue rather regard to the words of the Scribes than to the Law of Moses the word of God Whom also they instructed that in case the Iudge once passed sentence hee must be absolutely beleeued Though he say that the right hand is the left or the lest the right In all this you crye Pax Pax when as indeede it is nothing else but a paction and accordance in Error and Idolatrie The whole Colledge of Priests were against Ieremie All the Priesthood with the Scribes and other Sects conspired against Christ So little cause haue you to glorie in the nature of your Vnion As for Vnion with the Church Catholike there is no other difference than this Protestants as you haue heard stand in Christian Vnion with Graecians Aegyptians Asians Assyrians Aethiopians and all Churches Christian that haue not ouerthrowne the fundamentall Articles of faith Whereas the Romane Church by Excommunicating all other Christian Churches from her hath Excommunicated her selfe and made a Separation from all other Christian Churches And therefore being alone is nothing lesse than Catholike Vae Soli THESIS V. The Protestants granting it possible for Some to be saued within the Church of Rome and the Papists denying that any can be saued in the Churches of the Protestants is but a Sophisticall proofe that there is more Safetie in the Romane Church SECT 27. MAny Protestants grant say you that some may be possibly saued within the Church of Rome whereas the Papists absolutely deny that Any adhering to the Churches of Protestants can be saued This Argument to the Ignorant may be an efficacious inchantment to perswade to Poperie which to the iudicious and Discreete Reader will appeare to bee but Childish and ridiculous whether we consider your Deniall or our Grant The first because your Deniall proceedeth not either from Truth or Conscience Not from Truth because first our Separation from you as hath bene prooued out of your owne Authors was for Truth and equitie-sake And secondly what Conscience can it be in such Obiectors which the more Ingenuous among you will gain-say acknowledging it possible that such as are diuided from the outward Communion of your Church if yet they ruine not the Foundations of Faith May by their inward will otherwise be ioyned vnto her Such as was saith he the case of Cyprian from the Church of Rome Now what Christian is there opposite to the Church of Rome but he hath a desire and will that she were as Orthodoxe in faith and as sincere in worship as euer she was that so he might be vnited vnto her Nay we dare herein appeale to many of your owne Consciences nothing doubting but that many of you conceiue Saluation towards all Protestants that in faith and repentance finish this their earthly pilgrimage accordingly as Some we speake from knowledge euen of the Society of the Iesuites haue done in desiring the prayers of Some Protestant yea and to vse their owne words Ex animo desiring the same And yet did these also as bitterly inueigh against Protestants as did other of their Sect which sheweth that your Authors tongues and pens are not directed by the same spirit Howsoeuer you your selues will condemne your Obiector of follie after that you haue heard some Instances First then in the Donatists They held all men damned that were not of their Church Whereas Saint Augustine their principall Aduersarie did thinke that Some of them were in the state of life Would you suffer your Obiector hereupon if he had liued in those daies to haue perswaded Saint Augustine by reason of this odds of opinion to leaue the Catholike Church and turne Donatist Secondly in the Grecians They you know at this day condemne the Church of Rome for consecrating the Sacrament in vnleauened bread for which cause they call them Azymites and Heretikes as impugners of the Gospell But yet you excuse Them in their Consecrating with leauened bread saying They may lawfully do it Here is then great odds also in these Censures Would you thereupon aduise your Fathers of the Councell of Trent necessarily to confesse that the Church of Rome hath for a long time bene Hereticall in that point and therefore ought to forbeare to Consecrate in Azymes any more A third Instance you may receiue from Pagans The Indian Priests called Bramenes beleeued and taught that to take bread from the hand of a Christian is Sacriledge whereas Christian Doctrine saith to the Christian If an Infidel bid thee to a feast whatsoeuer is set before thee eate c.
call Papisticall Faith Take vnto you an Answer which may reciprocally satisfie both you and vs accordingly as we are both directed by Saint Augustine and Saint Cyprian two ancient and godly Fathers They saith Saint Augustine concerning the Donatists who were knowne to be notorious Schismatikes that do defend their false opinion without pertinacie especially if it be such as they are no Authors of themselues but which they haue receiued from their seduced Ancestors yet cautelously seeking after the Truth and prepared to embrace the same so soone as it shall be reuealed Such saith he will not I account Heretikes Accordingly Saint Cyprian If any of our Elders saith he haue not obserued thus much either through their ignorance or simplicity not holding that which Christ hath taught and commanded vs such may through the mercie of God find pardon whereas we stand without pardon if against our knowledge we shall reiect the admonitions of Christ. This agreeth with that of holy writ spoken of them who were ignorantly plunged in rebellion and therefore as being excusable are said to haue gone in Simplicitie If hereuponn we shall enter into Comparison with you by supposing an error in both Churches yet cannot the ignorancee of the Protestants be called Affected because they are willing as the Apostle directeth To trie all things and ready to keepe that which is good Nor are they stupidly and wilfully ignorant led by the nose hood-winked through an Implicit Faith as your Profession teacheth Which one point maketh the state of Protestants far more iustifiable than yours can be Come we now seeing that you will needs to the Censuring of fore-Fathers wherein three points will be very considerable for our Iustification in comparison of you I. Is by examining whether side is more peremptorie in damning of any other Christian Churches II. Whether are guiltie in condemning the more sincere ancient and Orthodoxe Fathers III. Whether do by their Profession iudge and deliuer ouer to Sathan greater multitudes of fore-fathers and professed Christians The first point is more than euident for the Article of your Creed is absolutely to iudge as damned without all possibility of Absolution all Christians whatsoeuer that are not professedly Papists We farre more Christianly display Christ opening his armes of mercy vnto all that beleeue in him without wilfull blindnesse in erring and obstinacie in transgressing and also we beleeue that All such as seeke the knowledge of the Truth with a simple heart are not secluded from life which issueth from Christ to all who shall by Faith Touch but the hemme of his garment Secondly well it were you would vnderstand what fore-Fathers ye or we condemne for some may be more condemnable than others as may be discerned by that Testamentarie Exhortation which Ioshuah gaue to Gods people immediatly before his death Feare ye the Lord saith Ioshuah and serue him in sincerity and Truth and put away the gods which your Fathers serued on the other side of the flood and in Egypt and serue you the LORD The people to whom he spake had three kind of Fore-fathers some immediate and those were of the same profession with Ioshuah Some rather mediate and as it were once remoued namely they that had Apostated from Gods worship to Idolatry in seruing strange Gods And some Primitiue such as were Abraham and the other Patriarchs in the direct line of the Messiah The first and last ranke of Fathers they were taught to heare and imitate onely from the middle sort that had declined from God the people were commanded to depart as from Fathers of a damnable condition Will you bee tried by this Example Your Proselites are taught to condemne their Protestant Parents and Progenitors being of the Reformed Religion and the Articles of your New Creede haue condemned the ancient Fathers of Primitiue times as hath bene prooued to the full We honouring the memorie of all Fathers of the Primitiue ages yea of the Popes of the Church of Rome for more than 600. yeares space do onely condemne them although not absolutely who were the fore-Fathers of the middle order who degenerated from their first integritie and were drowned in Superstition Thirdly as for the numbers of fore-Fathers damned by your new Romane Creed they are innumerable For what millions of millions of the truly ancient Fathers were not as hath bene prooued Subiect to your Romane Church and therefore haue incurred your sentence of Damnation What myriads of myriads of soules of Grecians Assyrians Aegyptians and others professing the same Christian Faith do not your cursing and cursed Romish Mount Ebal daily damne to the pit of hell And yet you blush not to obiect vnto Protestants their Damning of their fore-Fathers God grant that this make not to your greater Damnation THESIS VII The Protestants at this day stand more Iustifiable in their Separation from Rome than did either the Ancient Primitiue Churches in her Excommunicating of Them or yet LVTHER and his FOLLOVVERS in their Departure from Her SECT 29. IT is high time Wee end this Taske which We conclude in this Thesis for Proofe whereof be you pleased to call to mind the Romish Excommunications denounced first against the Asian Churches and that onely for a matter of Ceremonie next against Saint Cyprian and the Africane and Numidian Byshops and Churches in a Question of Rebaptization which was but One and that no fundamentall Error then against Theophilus and Cyrill both Bishops of Alexandria together with Acacius and Atticus both Bishops of Constantinople onely about Admitting or not Admitting of the Name of Chrysostome into the Diptikes or Tables of Commemoration then against the Opposition of the Churches of Africke in the dayes of Saint Augustine onely against the pretended Iurisdiction of Rome in the Case of Appeales All which with many other Catholike Churches and Fathers as well Greeke as Latine haue contemned the Pride of the Church of Rome in Primitiue Ages when-as other wise the Bishops of Rome were Godly and Orthodox But LVTHER contented with Rome not about Ceremonies or Iurisdictions but about the Soule 's life both in the point of the Iustification of a Sinner before God and of the religious and spirituall Worship properly due to our Iealous God which Contention was begun before the Councell of Trent Secondly after that was a Generall free Councell desired as a Remedie for all Diseases in the Church but alas whiles Rome would needs be that Catholike Church the Remedie was turned presently into a Poison so desperate is her Case 1. By enthralling All to the pleasure of the Pope which is a depriuing of the Church of Christ of her Liberty 2. By authorizing her Idolatrie 3. By giuing Safe-Conduct to Protestants for the discussion of their Opinions and yet not suffering Them to Dispute in their Councell an Argument of their Obstinacie 4. By Decreeing and Creating a CREED consisting of aboue XX. new Articles of Faith as Necessary to