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A81501 The Discipline and order of particular churches, no novelty. Proved from Scripture, reason, autiquity, and the most eminent modern divines. Or, A discourse of the church, in a scripture notion, with her extent, power and practice, tending to moderate the minds of men, toward dissenters in matters ecclesiastical, and to acquit such from the charge of innovation, faction, separation, schism, and breach of union and peace in the church, who cannot conform in many things to the rules, canons, and practices of others. / By a Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. 1675 (1675) Wing D1558A; ESTC R174652 61,995 98

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62._o he_o quote_v ambros_n and_o augustine_n against_o impose_v of_o thing_n indifferent_a upon_o this_o very_a ground_n because_o they_o answer_v not_o the_o end_v intend_v but_o produce_v the_o contrary_a effect_n and_o he_o therefore_o cite_v these_o word_n of_o august_n to_o this_o purpose_n i_o say_v aug._n have_v often_o find_v it_o to_o my_o grief_n and_o sorrow_n that_o the_o trouble_n of_o weak_a christian_n have_v be_v cause_v by_o the_o contentious_a obstinacy_n of_o some_o on_o the_o one_o hand_n and_o the_o superstitious_a fearfullness_n of_o other_o on_o the_o other_o in_o thing_n which_o be_v neither_o determine_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n nor_o by_o custom_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n nor_o yet_o by_o any_o usefullnesse_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o in_o order_n to_o the_o make_n of_o man_n life_n better_a only_o for_o some_o petty_a reason_n in_o a_o man_n own_o mind_n or_o because_o it_o have_v be_v the_o custom_n of_o their_o country_n 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