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province_n or_o metropolis_n that_o be_v per_fw-la se_fw-la subsistentes_fw-la and_o therefore_o when_o theodoret_n say_v how_o many_o church_n be_v under_o hand_n it_o be_v like_a he_o mean_v bishop_n church_n and_o not_o mere_a presbyter_n and_o either_o a_o cypher_n drop_v in_o corrupt_v the_o account_n or_o else_o the_o bishop_n have_v but_o single_a congregation_n but_o for_o my_o part_n as_o the_o case_n so_o late_o concern_v i_o not_o so_o i_o see_v nothing_o to_o persuade_v i_o that_o that_o epistle_n be_v genuine_a and_o uncorrupt_a but_o i_o will_v not_o have_v a_o diocese_n which_o then_o have_v many_o province_n or_o a_o province_n which_o have_v many_o bishop_n church_n be_v take_v for_o a_o single_a church_n sect._n 5._o the_o same_o i_o say_v of_o carthage_n which_o be_v the_o metropolis_n of_o africa_n and_o the_o first_o of_o six_o province_n before_o
total_a and_o positive_a separation_n be_v lawful_a and_o convenient_a p._n 117._o where_o any_o church_n retain_v purity_n of_o doctrine_n do_v require_v the_o own_n of_o and_o conform_v to_o any_o unlawful_a or_o suspect_v practice_n man_n may_v lawful_o deny_v conformity_n to_o and_o communion_n with_o that_o church_n in_o such_o thing_n without_o incur_v the_o guilt_n of_o schism_n p._n 119._o let_v man_n turn_v and_o wind_n themselves_o which_o way_n they_o will_v by_o the_o very_a same_o argument_n that_o any_o will_v prove_v separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n lawful_a because_o she_o require_v unlawful_a thing_n as_o condition_n of_o her_o communion_n it_o will_v be_v prove_v lawful_a not_o to_o conform_v to_o any_o suspect_v or_o unlawful_a practice_n &_o c._n they_o lay_v the_o imputation_n of_o schism_n on_o all_o they_o who_o require_v such_o condition_n of_o communion_n and_o take_v it_o whole_o off_o from_o those_o who_o refuse_v to_o conform_v for_o conscience_n sake_n a_o premise_v explication_n of_o the_o equivocal_a word_n church_n the_o word_n church_n be_v equivocal_a be_v unfit_a for_o our_o disputation_n till_o explain_v it_o signify_v be_v a_o relative_n several_a sort_n of_o relate_a assembly_n which_o be_v distinct_a i._o in_o their_o matter_n a_o church_n of_o jew_n turk_n christian_n of_o orthodox_n and_o of_o heretic_n be_v not_o one_o thing_n ii_o in_o the_o efficient_a a_o church_n of_o god_n institute_v or_o a_o church_n of_o man_n iii_o in_o the_o fnds._n 1_o a_o christian_a assembly_n at_o a_o fair_a or_o market_n or_o court_n or_o army_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o a_o assembly_n for_o religious_a exercise_n 2._o nor_o a_o assembly_n for_o legislation_n about_o religion_n in_o parliament_n or_o consultation_n in_o synod_n or_o disputation_n in_o school_n the_o same_o thing_n as_o a_o assembly_n for_o state_v worship_n etc._n etc._n iv._o in_o the_o form_n or_o constitutive_a relation_n to_o the_o correlate_n and_o so_o the_o great_a difference_n which_o now_o concern_v we_o to_o note_n be_v that_o a_o church_n of_o equal_n in_o office_n and_o power_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o a_o political_a society_n relate_v as_o governor_n and_o govern_v be_v another_o the_o first_o be_v either_o a_o accidental_a assembly_n or_o else_o a_o design_a assemby_n by_o consent_n this_o last_o be_v either_o a_o assembly_n of_o layman_n which_o may_v be_v agree_v hereafter_o to_o come_v under_o government_n and_o may_v meet_v to_o worship_n god_n without_o a_o pastor_n and_o this_o in_o politic_n be_v usual_o call_v a_o mere_a community_n 2._o or_o a_o assembly_n of_o ruler_n or_o pastor_n in_o equality_n as_o to_o government_n there_o and_o this_o be_v call_v a_o council_n synod_n diet_n parliament_n convention_n etc._n etc._n v._o a_o govern_v or_o political_a church_n be_v of_o three_o several_a species_n at_o least_o as_o there_o be_v three_o species_n of_o such_o government_n i._o a_o christian_a family_n consist_v of_o the_o family-government_n and_o govern_v live_v together_o in_o holy_a faith_n love_n worship_n and_o obedience_n to_o god_n the_o master_n be_v their_o teacher_n ruler_n and_o guide_v in_o worship_n ii_o a_o pastoral-church_n consist_v of_o one_o or_o more_o pastor_n and_o christian_a people_n correlated_a as_o his_o flock_n for_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o pastoral_a office_n which_o essential_o contain_v a_o power_n to_o teach_v they_o lead_v they_o in_o worship_n and_o govern_v they_o by_o the_o key_n as_o a_o ministerial_a judge_n who_o be_v fit_a for_o that_o commmunion_n all_o together_o be_v call_v also_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o be_v subordinate_a to_o christ_n teach_v priestly_n and_o rule_v office_n iii_o a_o royal_a or_o magistratical_a church_n consist_v of_o a_o christian_a sovereign_a and_o christian_a subject_n to_o be_v rule_v by_o his_o sword_n or_o force_v power_n under_o christ_n and_o his_o law_n for_o the_o spiritual_a and_o temporal_a welfare_n of_o the_o society_n and_o the_o glorify_v and_o please_v the_o lord_n redeemer_n and_o iv._o the_o universal_a church_n comprehend_v all_o these_o three_o as_o part_n and_o be_v most_o excellent_o proper_o and_o full_o call_v the_o church_n consist_v of_o jesus_n christ_n the_o chief_a pastor_n teacher_n priest_n and_o king_n a_o eminent_a perfect_a policy_n with_o all_o christian_n as_o the_o subject_a part_n it_o be_v visible_a in_o that_o the_o subject_n and_o their_o profession_n and_o worship_n be_v visible_a aod_a christ_n be_v visible_a on_o earth_n be_v visible_a in_o the_o court_n of_o heaven_n his_o law_n and_o providence_n be_v visible_a and_o he_o will_v visible_o judge_v the_o world_n and_o reign_v for_o ever_o and_o it_o be_v no_o further_o visible_a the_o constitutive_a essential_a part_n be_v only_a christ_n and_o his_o subject-body_n the_o noble_a organical_a part_n of_o that_o body_n be_v prophet_n apostle_n evangelist_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n in_o all_o this_o note_z 1._o that_o we_o have_v no_o difference_n that_o i_o know_v of_o about_o the_o church_n in_o any_o of_o these_o sense_n before_o mention_v except_o 1._o how_o far_o man_n may_v invent_v church-form_n for_o god_n service_n without_o god_n particular_a prescript_n or_o institution_n 2._o whether_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o king_n be_v so_o persona_fw-la mixta_fw-la as_o some_o hold_n as_o to_o be_v king_n and_o priest_n and_o to_o have_v the_o power_n of_o church-key_n and_o word_n and_o sacrament_n 3._o whether_o over_o and_o above_o the_o low_a pastoral_n church_n christ_n have_v institute_v a_o direct_a superior_a pastoral_n sort_n of_o church_n to_o rule_v the_o inferior_a in_o faith_n worship_n and_o the_o key_n of_o discipline_n over_o pastor_n and_o people_n and_o if_o so_o what_o be_v these_o superior_a pastoral_n church_n whâ—ther_o diocesan_n provincial_a national_a patriarchal_a papal_a or_o all_o and_o if_o christ_n make_v no_o such_o whether_o man_n may_v make_v they_o 2._o and_o note_v that_o we_o be_v certain_o agree_v that_o the_o magistratical_a form_n of_o force_a power_n and_o the_o pastoral_a form_n of_o sacerdotal_a power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v two_o though_o the_o subject_n shall_v be_v the_o same_o though_o usual_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o commonwealth_n as_o part_v and_o none_o of_o we_o deny_v a_o christian_a commonwealth_n monarchical_a aristocratical_a or_o democratical_a and_o though_o this_o power_n be_v over_o the_o pastoral_n church_n it_o be_v but_o accidental_a and_o not_o essential_a to_o it_o 3._o and_o note_v that_o the_o chief_a question_n which_o i_o put_v to_o the_o dr._n about_o this_o be_v 1._o what_o be_v the_o pastoral_n specify_v form_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o 2._o whether_o it_o be_v of_o divine_a or_o humane_a institution_n and_o i_o have_v bring_v he_o to_o maintain_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o church_n of_o england_n at_o all_o and_o of_o the_o royal_a church_n or_o kingdom_n we_o be_v member_n as_o well_o as_o he_o 4._o and_o last_o note_v that_o as_o to_o a_o pastoral_n church_n we_o agree_v i_o suppose_v in_o distinguish_v a_o transient_a and_o a_o fix_a relation_n and_o as_o he_o that_o be_v a_o license_v physician_n act_v as_o such_o where_o he_o come_v though_o relate_v fix_o to_o no_o hospital_n so_o if_o a_o lawful_a minister_n of_o christ_n either_o fix_v in_o another_o church_n or_o in_o none_o but_o the_o universal_a be_v call_v pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la for_o a_o day_n to_o do_v his_o office_n in_o another_o church_n he_o act_v as_o christ_n minister_n and_o their_o pastor_n for_o that_o dayâ—_n and_o if_o a_o travel_a christian_a join_v with_o they_o he_o be_v a_o member_n for_o that_o day_n yea_o if_o the_o whole_a company_n intend_v to_o meet_v but_o that_o one_o day_n in_o the_o same_o relation_n to_o the_o same_o end_n it_o be_v a_o temporary_a transient_a pastoral_n church_n but_o fix_a inhabitant_n for_o order_n and_o edification_n aught_o to_o fix_v their_o relation_n and_o practice_n though_o most_o of_o this_o be_v say_v after_o where_o he_o call_v i_o to_o it_o i_o think_v meet_v here_o to_o premise_v the_o explication_n of_o the_o word_n church_n as_o in_o divers_a book_n large_o i_o have_v do_v of_o the_o word_n separation_n lest_o i_o imitate_v he_o in_o leave_v my_o explication_n to_o the_o hinder_a part_n and_o we_o shall_v dispute_v about_o a_o word_n which_o the_o reader_n and_o perhaps_o ourselves_o understand_v not_o but_o we_o have_v a_o great_a controversy_n than_o this_o rise_v since_o a._n bishop_n laud'_v and_o grotius_n reconcile_a design_n five_o z._n what_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n be_v 1._o protestant_n have_v hitherto_o hold_v as_o the_o first_o point_n of_o difference_n from_o the_o papist_n that_o the_o universal_a church_n have_v no_o constitutive_a head_n or_o supreme_a regent_n power_n but_o christ_n he_o have_v settle_v no_o one_o
p._n 73._o he_o acquit_v they_o from_o schism_n that_o separate_a if_o the_o church_n be_v schismatical_a 74._o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n then_o to_o read_v my_o few_o sheet_n call_v a_o search_n for_o the_o english_a schismatic_a more_o mistake_n p._n 74_o 75._o chap._n 6._o whether_o he_o be_v no_o christian_n that_o be_v not_o a_o fix_a member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n the_o doctor_n schismatical_a error_n confute_v p._n 76._o he_o by_o this_o condemn_v apostles_n and_o evangelist_n that_o be_v itinerant_n and_o unfixed_a such_o as_o bucer_fw-la de_fw-la regno_fw-la dei_fw-la will_v have_v send_v abroad_o my_o exception_n about_o church_n and_o minister_n justify_v and_o his_o calumny_n detect_v p_o 80._o whether_o i_o give_v too_o much_o to_o the_o people_n or_o be_o against_o the_o right_n of_o patron_n or_o magistrate_n p._n 82._o many_o more_o calumny_n to_o p._n 89._o he_o accuse_v i_o as_o accuse_v they_o for_o name_v the_o sin_n that_o i_o dare_v not_o commit_v p._n 89._o more_o of_o his_o vain_a accusation_n to_o p._n 92._o whether_o he_o be_v for_o silence_v we_o p._n 92._o more_o of_o his_o calumny_n p._n 99_o considerable_a quere_z to_o he_o p._n 94._o how_o he_o will_v drive_v man_n to_o separation_n p._n 95_o 96._o he_o be_v come_v to_o self-condemning_a gentleness_n in_o expound_v his_o rule_n and_o text_n phil._n 3._o 16._o p._n 97._o his_o sad_a ennumeration_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o just_a separation_n p._n 98._o chap._n 7._o he_o begin_v his_o three_o part_n with_o more_o false_a accusation_n p._n 99_o his_o history_n for_o diocesan_n church_n against_o parochial_a find_v fallacious_a p._n 100_o etc._n etc._n his_o vain_a plea_n for_o the_o english_a frame_n p._n 106_o etc._n etc._n he_o say_v it_o be_v probable_a while_o the_o apostle_n live_v there_o be_v no_o fix_a bishop_n or_o but_o few_o p._n 108._o and_o dr._n hammond_n say_v no_o subject_a presbyter_n whether_o john_n fox_n be_v the_o publisher_n or_o prefacer_n of_o the_o reformatio_fw-la legum_n etc._n etc._n p._n 109._o discipline_n hard_a but_o not_o unnecessary_a p._n 111._o chap._n 8._o what_o the_o national_a church_n of_o england_n be_v full_o discuss_v and_o the_o doctor_n self-contradiction_n detect_v he_o deny_v any_o true_a political_a church_n of_o england_n he_o and_o we_o more_o agree_v than_o he_o and_o other_o high_a churchman_n that_o be_v for_o a_o constitutive_a political_a government_n p._n 112_o 113_o etc._n etc._n he_o make_v it_o a_o introduction_n of_o popery_n to_o hold_v that_o a_o church_n must_v have_v a_o constutive_a regent_n church-power_n and_o so_o fasten_v popery_n on_o the_o master_n of_o his_o cause_n chap._n 9_o that_o the_o mutual_a consent_n of_o pastor_n and_o flock_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o very_o be_v of_o their_o relation_n about_o thirty_o proof_n from_o antiquity_n that_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v for_o about_o 1000_o year_n of_o that_o mind_n and_o decree_v it_o p._n 128_o etc._n etc._n the_o necessity_n of_o consent_n prove_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o work_n where_o the_o reason_n of_o it_o be_v all_o plain_o open_v p._n 133._o etc._n etc._n the_o doctor_n contrary_a surmise_n and_o false_a history_n full_o confute_v p._n 136_o etc._n etc._n chap._n 10._o of_o the_o impose_v use_v of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n and_o deny_v baptism_n to_o the_o refuser_n p._n 153._o his_o vain_a excuse_n confute_v whether_o the_o cross_n be_v use_v as_o a_o sacrament_n his_o disingenuous_a falsify_v my_o word_n of_o the_o use_n of_o crucifix_n and_o other_o image_n p._n 156_o etc._n etc._n what_o the_o papist_n ascribe_v to_o sacrament_n p._n 168._o chap._n 11._o whether_o the_o excommunicate_a church_n or_o the_o excommunicate_a nonconformist_n for_o not_o communicate_v when_o ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la excommunicate_a be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n p._n 163._o chap._n 12._o of_o the_o english_a sort_n of_o sponsor_n and_o the_o exclusion_n of_o the_o parent_n duty_n p._n 167._o see_v more_o in_o the_o postscript_n chap._n 13._o of_o the_o three_o french_a letter_n which_o he_o subjoin_v p._n 171._o chap._n 14._o epistle_n and_o testimony_n compare_v with_o the_o doctor_n and_o note_n on_o mr._n jo._n glanviles_n book_n call_v the_o zealous_a impartial_a protestant_n with_o a_o letter_n of_o he_o to_o the_o author_n and_o a_o digression_n about_o dr._n lewis_n du_fw-fr moulin_n his_o publish_a picture_n and_o deathbed_n repentance_n a_o postscript_n of_o five_o notice_n viz._n 1._o of_o a_o new_a observation_n of_o the_o trade_n of_o take_v money_n to_o be_v godfather_n to_o poor_a man_n child_n and_o miss_v baptism_n for_o want_n of_o money_n 2._o a_o letter_n of_o mr._n w._n rathband_n of_o his_o father_n judgement_n and_o practice_n 3._o a_o excellent_a confutation_n of_o dr._n stillingfleet_v history_n of_o the_o extent_n of_o diocese_n and_o choice_n of_o bishop_n full_o prove_v that_o the_o old_a bishop_n be_v parochial_a or_o congregational_a and_o always_o choose_v by_o the_o people_n or_o not_o make_v they_o without_o their_o free_a consent_n by_o a_o learned_a and_o faithful_a minister_n 4._o a_o excellent_a vindication_n of_o the_o silence_a minister_n by_o a_o conformist_n etc._n etc._n 5._o my_o apology_n for_o the_o nonformists_n preach_v write_a by_o i_o and_o come_v out_o with_o this_o errata_fw-la in_o the_o preface_n sect._n 17._o line_n 13._o read_v plead_v for_o l._n 17._o after_o clergy_n and_o people_n add_v of_o â—â—â—â—â—iâ—â—â—sâ—_n so_o evident_a be_v the_o right_n of_o synod_n clergy_n and_o people_n a_o answer_n to_o dean_n stilingfleet_v etc._n etc._n chap._n i._n the_o concord_n of_o dr._n stillengfleet_n and_o the_o nonconformist_n especial_o with_o the_o principle_n of_o my_o book_n of_o church_n concord_n about_o the_o true_a nature_n of_o schism_n and_o who_o be_v the_o schismatic_a write_v by_o he_o at_o age_n in_o his_o most_o own_a book_n and_o not_o in_o youth_n in_o his_o irenicon_n i_o stand_v to_o all_o my_o word_n against_o schism_n which_o he_o have_v cite_v and_o so_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o he_o stand_v to_o these_o follow_v of_o his_o discourse_v of_o idolatry_n of_o rome_n p._n 7._o though_o we_o know_v not_o what_o allowance_n god_n will_v make_v for_o invincible_a ignorance_n we_o be_v sure_a that_o wilful_a ignorance_n or_o choose_v a_o worse_a church_n before_o a_o better_a be_v a_o damnable_a sin_n and_o unrepented_a of_o destroy_v salvation_n the_o papist_n consent_n p._n 43._o i_o agree_v so_o far_o with_o he_o that_o every_o christian_n be_v bind_v to_o choose_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o pure_a church_n but_o which_o that_o church_n be_v must_v be_v see_v by_o the_o ground_n it_o bring_v to_o prove_v the_o doctrine_n it_o teach_v to_o have_v be_v deliver_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n that_o church_n be_v to_o be_v judge_v pure_a that_o have_v the_o best_a groundâ—_n and_o consequent_o it_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n to_o embrace_v the_o communion_n of_o it_o pag._n 194._o 195._o 1._o the_o church_n power_n be_v only_o to_o edification_n and_o not_o to_o destruction_n for_o this_o be_v as_o much_o as_o the_o apostle_n challenge_v to_o themselves_o and_o i_o hope_v none_o dare_v challenge_v more_o but_o this_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o natural_a reason_n that_o no_o power_n in_o a_o society_n ought_v to_o be_v extend_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o it_o or_o to_o contradict_v the_o end_n and_o design_n of_o it_o 2._o the_o apostle_n be_v the_o most_o competent_a judge_n of_o what_o make_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 216._o 217._o 1._o it_o be_v agree_v on_o both_o side_n that_o the_o scripture_n do_v contline_a in_o they_o the_o unquestionable_a will_n of_o that_o god_n who_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o serve_v and_o it_o be_v the_o end_n of_o devotion_n as_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v of_o our_o life_n to_o serve_v he_o what_o be_v there_o the_o mind_n of_o any_o one_o who_o sincere_o desire_v to_o do_v it_o can_v be_v 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that_o ordinary_a people_n that_o understand_v not_o latin_a and_o greek_a ought_v not_o to_o be_v concern_v what_o become_v of_o their_o soul_n if_o they_o be_v and_o do_v in_o good_a earnest_a desire_n to_o know_v how_o to_o please_v god_n and_o serve_v he_o what_o direction_n will_v they_o give_v he_o they_o must_v do_v as_o they_o be_v bid_v true_a say_v they_o if_o we_o be_v to_o worship_v you_o for_o god_n we_o will_v do_v as_o you_o bid_v we_o for_o we_o think_v it_o fit_v to_o serve_v god_n in_o his_o own_o way_n but_o we_o will_v know_v whether_o that_o god_n who_o we_o serve_v have_v give_v we_o any_o rule_n for_o his_o worship_n or_o no._n how_o shall_v we_o know_v whether_o we_o keep_v they_o or_o not_o or_o will_v you_o take_v upon_o you_o the_o guilt_n of_o our_o sin_n in_o disobey_v his_o will_n this_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o very_a just_a and_o reasonable_a request_n and_o i_o fear_v it_o will_v one_o day_n fall_v heavy_a on_o those_o who_o conceal_v that_o which_o they_o 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their_o common_a christianity_n as_o to_o acknowledge_v that_o no_o religion_n do_v so_o strict_o oblige_v the_o owner_n of_o it_o to_o peace_n and_o unity_n as_o the_o christian_a religion_n do_v and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o this_o we_o find_v these_o breach_n so_o far_o from_o close_v that_o suppose_v the_o same_o ground_n to_o continue_v a_o reconciliation_n seem_v to_o humane_a reason_n impossible_a a_o evidence_n of_o which_o be_v that_o those_o person_n who_o either_o out_o of_o a_o generous_a desire_n of_o see_v the_o wound_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n heal_v or_o out_o of_o some_o private_a interest_n or_o design_n have_v make_v it_o their_o business_n to_o propound_v term_n of_o reconciliation_n between_o the_o divide_a party_n have_v be_v equal_o reject_v by_o those_o party_n they_o have_v profess_v themselves_o the_o member_n of_o page_n 290._o the_o distance_n then_o be_v so_o great_a as_o it_o be_v it_o be_v a_o very_a necessary_a enquiry_n what_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o be_v and_o where_o the_o main_a fault_n lie_v and_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v a_o possibility_n that_o corruption_n may_v get_v into_o a_o christian_a church_n and_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o prove_v that_o christianity_n oblige_v man_n to_o communicate_v with_o a_o church_n in_o all_o those_o corruption_n its_o communion_n may_v be_v taint_v with_o it_o seem_v evident_a to_o reason_n that_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o breach_n must_v lie_v there_o where_o the_o corruption_n be_v own_v and_o impose_v as_o condition_n of_o communion_n for_o can_v any_o one_o imagine_v it_o shall_v be_v a_o fault_n in_o any_o to_o keep_v off_o from_o communion_n where_o they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v oblige_v to_o it_o that_o they_o have_v a_o obligation_n to_o the_o contrary_a from_o the_o principle_n of_o their_o common_a christianity_n and_o where_o man_n be_v bind_v not_o to_o communicate_v it_o be_v impossible_a to_o prove_v their_o not_o communicate_v to_o be_v schism_n 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principle_n which_o may_v manifest_v how_o free_a protestant_n be_v from_o all_o imputation_n of_o schism_n schism_n then_o import_v a_o violation_n of_o that_o communion_n which_o we_o be_v oblige_v to_o the_o most_o natural_a way_n for_o understanding_n what_o schism_n be_v be_v to_o inquire_v what_o the_o foundation_n be_v of_o christian_a communion_n and_o how_o far_o the_o bound_n of_o it_o do_v extend_v now_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a communion_n in_o general_n depend_v upon_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christian_a religion_n for_o that_o religion_n which_o christ_n come_v to_o deliver_v to_o the_o world_n be_v suppose_v true_a be_v the_o reason_n why_o any_o look_n on_o themselves_o as_o oblige_v to_o profess_v it_o which_o obligation_n extend_v to_o all_o person_n who_o have_v the_o same_o ground_n to_o believe_v the_o truth_n of_o it_o thence_o arise_v the_o ground_n of_o society_n in_o this_o profession_n which_o be_v a_o common_a obligation_n 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the_o scripture_n there_o must_v be_v a_o acknowledgement_n of_o they_o as_o the_o indispensable_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o manner_n which_o be_v that_o these_o book_n be_v the_o great_a charter_n of_o the_o christian_a society_n according_a to_o which_o it_o must_v be_v govern_v these_o thing_n be_v premise_v as_o the_o foundation_n in_o general_n of_o christian_a society_n we_o shall_v the_o better_o understand_v how_o far_o the_o obligation_n to_o communion_n in_o it_o do_v extend_v for_o which_o it_o must_v be_v consider_v that_o the_o ground_n of_o continuance_n in_o communion_n must_v be_v suitable_a and_o proportionable_a to_o the_o first_o reason_n of_o enter_v into_o it_o no_o man_n be_v oblige_v by_o virtue_n of_o his_o be_v in_o a_o society_n to_o agree_v in_o any_o thing_n that_o tend_v to_o the_o apparent_a ruin_n of_o that_o society_n but_o he_o be_v oblige_v to_o the_o contrary_a from_o the_o general_a ground_n of_o his_o first_o admission_n into_o it_o his_o primary_n obligation_n be_v to_o preserve_v the_o honour_n and_o interest_n of_o it_o and_o to_o join_v in_o act_n of_o it_o so_o far_o as_o they_o tend_v to_o it_o now_o the_o main_a end_n of_o the_o christian_a society_n be_v the_o promotion_n of_o god_n honour_n and_o salvation_n of_o man_n soul_n the_o primary_n obligation_n of_o man_n enter_v into_o it_o be_v the_o advancement_n of_o these_o end_n to_o join_v in_o all_o act_n of_o it_o so_o far_o as_o they_o tend_v to_o these_o end_n but_o if_o any_o thing_n come_v to_o be_v require_v direct_o repugnant_a to_o these_o end_n those_o man_n of_o who_o such_o thing_n be_v require_v be_v bind_v not_o to_o communicate_v in_o those_o lesser_a society_n where_o such_o thing_n be_v impose_v but_o to_o preserve_v their_o communion_n with_o the_o catholic_n society_n of_o christian_n pag._n 291._o set_v then_o aside_o the_o catholic_n society_n of_o christian_n we_o come_v to_o inquire_v how_o far_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o communicate_v with_o any_o 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