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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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people_n in_o such_o matter_n according_a to_o what_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n teach_v by_o which_o very_a consideration_n that_o constantine_n himself_o be_v very_o much_o indu●ced_v ●o_o interess_n himself_o in_o these_o matter_n of_o faith_n even_o himself_o also_o write_v apud_fw-la ●arr●nium_fw-la tom_fw-mi 3._o a_o 313._o n._n 37._o lest_o otherwise_o he_o shall_v have_v see_v dangerous_a trouble_n and_o commotion_n in_o his_o empire_n and_o thence_o have_v suffer_v also_o very_o much_o in_o his_o reputation_n as_o not_o govern_v well_o or_o prudent_o or_o also_o as_o have_v imprudent_o embrace_v that_o religion_n who_o professor_n he_o can_v not_o keep_v in_o peace_n or_o unity_n among_o themselves_o of_o which_o consideration_n and_o judgement_n of_o constantine_n or_o rather_o of_o which_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o constantine_n or_o indeed_o of_o both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o st._n augustine_n speak_v ep_v 162._o where_o he_o write_v thus_o quasi_fw-la verò_fw-la ipse_fw-la sibi_fw-la he_o mean_v fellix_fw-la aptungitanus_n ●●c_fw-la comparavit_fw-la ac_fw-la non_fw-la imperator_fw-la ita_fw-la quasi_fw-la jusserit_fw-la ad_fw-la cujus_fw-la curam_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la rationem_fw-la deo_fw-la redditurus_fw-la esset_fw-la res_fw-la illa_fw-la maximè_fw-la pertinebat_fw-la but_o of_o this_o authority_n and_o superintendency_n in_o general_n of_o emperor_n king_n prince_n and_o other_o supreme_a temporal_a or_o politic_a state_n in_o and_o over_o the_o church_n or_o the_o spiritual_a or_o ecclesiastical_a both_o superior_n and_o inferior_n of_o the_o same_o christian_n catholic_n church_n this_o be_v not_o the_o proper_a place_n to_o treat_v at_o large_a it_o suffice_v at_o present_a to_o say_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o constantine_n do_v so_o and_o so_o often_o too_o interess_n himself_o in_o this_o cause_n of_o caecilian_a and_o depute_a judge_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v it_o he_o do_v all_o this_o by_o the_o true_a proper_a genuine_a authority_n of_o a_o emperor_n and_o even_o of_o a_o christian_a emperor_n who_o duty_n it_o be_v when_o the_o ecclesiastic_n themselves_o alone_o can_v end_v or_o compose_v their_o own_o dissension_n that_o he_o by_o his_o own_o supreme_a authority_n assist_v and_o promote_v their_o agreement_n and_o even_o force_v they_o to_o a_o just_a and_o equitable_a agreement_n which_o the_o milevitan_a council_n approve_v in_o effect_n canone_o 19_o and_o ponitur_fw-la xi_o q._n 1._o c._n 11._o and_o in_o these_o term_n placuit_fw-la ut_fw-la quicumque_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n cognitionem_fw-la judiciorum_fw-la publicorum_fw-la petierit_fw-la honore_fw-la proprio_fw-la privetur_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la episcopale_n judicium_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n postulaverit_fw-la nihil_fw-la ei_fw-la obsit_fw-la but_o that_o constantine_n do_v in_o aftertime_n adorn_v and_o magnify_v the_o church_n or_o churchman_n with_o most_o singular_a and_o most_o ample_a privilege_n concern_v civil_a judgement_n or_o judgement_n in_o civil_a affair_n this_o he_o do_v not_o as_o baronius_n tom_n 3._o a_o 314._o n._n 37._o will_v make_v we_o believe_v he_o do_v to_o correct_v or_o by_o way_n of_o correction_n of_o those_o former_a judgement_n of_o his_o own_o in_o the_o say_a or_o like_a affair_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n which_o judgement_n our_o great_a annalist_n say_v be_v undue_o and_o unjust_o usurp_v by_o the_o emperor_n but_o do_v so_o or_o give_v such_o privilege_n out_o of_o his_o mere_a liberality_n and_o piety_n always_o nevertheless_o reserve_v his_o own_o proper_a supreme_a and_o general_a and_o imperial_a authority_n to_o provide_v upon_o emergency_n by_o himself_o or_o by_o such_o other_o as_o he_o shall_v think_v fit_a to_o depute_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o churchman_n as_o often_o as_o he_o see_v need_v however_o let_v we_o proceed_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n which_o be_v our_o proper_a subject_n here_o for_o notwithstanding_o the_o aforesaid_a judgement_n also_o of_o the_o council_n of_o orleans_n the_o donatist_n yet_o appeal_v even_o from_o it_o and_o the_o second_o time_n to_o the_o emperor_n himself_o against_o and_o in_o that_o cause_n of_o cecilian_a and_o the_o emperor_n admit_v again_o their_o appeal_n judge_n the_o matter_n himself_o absolve_v cecilian_a and_o condemn_v the_o donatist_n st._n augustine_n be_v my_o author_n and_o witness_n ep_v 48._o and_o epist_n 162._o where_o yet_o he_o neither_o accuse_v nor_o reprehend_v the_o emperor_n nor_o do_v cecilian_n except_v but_o obey_v and_o free_o present_v himself_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o emperor_n for_o it_o be_v a_o criminal_a judgement_n that_o be_v the_o matter_n debate_v be_v a_o crime_n charge_v upon_o he_o nay_o st._n augustine_n open_o say_v and_o aver_v that_o neither_o the_o accuse_v or_o appeal_n bishop_n themselves_o be_v to_o be_v reprehend_v on_o this_o account_n that_o they_o draw_v or_o bring_v the_o affair_n or_o cause_n of_o 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