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it_o notwithstanding_o the_o iniquity_n of_o they_o that_o sit_v in_o it_o nihil_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la haeretici_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n for_o the_o heretic_n to_o take_v so_o much_o pain_n in_o search_v out_o the_o vice_n of_o pope_n for_o we_o confess_v they_o be_v not_o few_o but_o tantùm_fw-la abest_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o be_v so_o far_o from_o diminish_v the_o glory_n of_o this_o seat_n that_o it_o be_v thereby_o exceed_o amplify_v for_o thereby_o we_o may_v perceive_v it_o consist_v by_o the_o special_a providence_n of_o god_n what_o bell._n speak_v of_o the_o seat_n i.e._n the_o papal_a authority_n and_o power_n have_v he_o speak_v it_o of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n oppress_v under_o that_o usurp_a power_n it_o have_v be_v a_o very_a sober_a rational_a and_o christian-like_a acknowledgement_n of_o god_n special_a providence_n which_o do_v preserve_v a_o church_n under_o such_o confusion_n and_o iniquity_n of_o antichristian_a ruler_n 7._o ordination_n this_o do_v not_o invalidate_a ordination_n and_o as_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o preservation_n of_o a_o church_n so_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o continuance_n of_o ordination_n in_o particular_a champny_n must_v give_v we_o leave_v to_o say_v with_o much_o more_o reason_n tantùm_fw-la abest_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o seem_v impossible_a or_o absurd_a that_o christ_n shall_v permit_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v pastor_n to_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o enemy_n that_o it_o make_v more_o for_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o power_n and_o special_a providence_n over_o his_o church_n that_o notwithstanding_o such_o wolf_n that_o enter_v he_o preserve_v his_o sheep_n notwithstanding_o such_o antichristian_a ruler_n he_o continue_v and_o propagate_v a_o save_a truth_n by_o transmit_v down_o his_o word_n and_o scripture_n and_o a_o succession_n of_o teacher_n and_o pastor_n by_o ordination_n still_o continue_v yea_o his_o special_a providence_n far_o in_o as_o much_o 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etc._n etc._n he_o shall_v nothing_o hurt_v the_o church_n or_o innocent_a christian_n for_o who_o our_o lord_n have_v provide_v say_v of_o evil_a prelate_n what_o they_o say_v do_v you_o mat._n 23._o as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v be_v their_o person_n what_o they_o will_v it_o do_v not_o prejudice_v the_o work_n of_o their_o function_n or_o ministry_n no_o more_o than_o it_o do_v in_o those_o to_o who_o our_o saviour_n there_o relate_v viz._n the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n profess_a enemy_n to_o christ_n yet_o in_o moses_n chair_n and_o to_o be_v hear_v and_o obey_v the_o leper_n also_o be_v send_v to_o the_o priest_n because_o they_o be_v in_o place_n though_o general_o enemy_n to_o christ_n yea_o the_o ministerial_a act_n of_o judas_n himself_o who_o be_v traditor_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o traitor_n and_o a_o devil_n be_v good_a and_o valid_a when_o he_o be_v send_v as_o be_v other_o disciple_n abroad_o to_o perform_v they_o if_o then_o the_o iniquity_n of_o ruler_n or_o 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