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covenant_n relation_n hold_v still_o though_o they_o be_v unbaptise_v they_o be_v the_o issue_n of_o person_n in_o the_o church_n and_o they_o never_o as_o yet_o have_v renounce_v the_o covenant_n but_o adhere_v to_o the_o public_a administration_n thereof_o which_o may_v be_v the_o case_n of_o some_o in_o these_o exorbitant_a time_n for_o there_o be_v many_o a_o grow_n up_o to_o year_n of_o discretion_n that_o through_o the_o delusion_n 〈◊〉_d their_o parent_n be_v unbaptise_v the_o which_o 〈◊〉_d think_v be_v no_o heathen_a be_v christian_n bear_v nor_o cut_v off_o from_o covenant_n relation_n noâ—_n church-membership_a notwithstanding_o their_o parent_n wickedness_n to_o dispute_v they_o ouâ—_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o consequent_o ouâ—_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o from_o baptism_n a_o privilege_n thereof_o
suppose_v faith_n it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o our_o opinion_n because_o all_o in_o the_o church_n do_v accept_v of_o the_o covenant_n and_o have_v faith_n and_o we_o do_v not_o plead_v for_o heathen_n until_o they_o believe_v and_o come_v under_o baptism_n but_o sure_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n confirm_v the_o everlasting_a covenant_n out_o of_o which_o faith_n with_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o free_o flow_v and_o i_o think_v sacrament_n be_v no_o other_o way_n seal_n than_o they_o be_v sign_n of_o his_o death_n as_o it_o be_v say_v this_o cup_n be_v the_o new_a covenant_n in_o my_o blood_n the_o cup_n be_v not_o real_o the_o new_a covenant_n but_o a_o sign_n thereof_o representative_o as_o i_o have_v hint_v before_o yet_o sure_o say_v mr._n collins_n those_o that_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o unbelief_n be_v not_o in_o covenant_n though_o they_o may_v be_v object_n of_o god_n first_o free_a grace_n answ_n if_o they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n they_o can_v be_v 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truth_n be_v our_o straightness_n in_o the_o one_o and_o largeness_n in_o the_o other_o do_v destroy_v itself_o and_o do_v occasion_n most_o intelligent_a christian_n either_o to_o fall_v off_o from_o infant_n baptism_n or_o else_o to_o restrain_v it_o to_o those_o that_o be_v judge_v fit_a to_o be_v receive_v into_o holy_a communion_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n have_v it_o not_o be_v for_o our_o own_o scruple_n about_o admit_v to_o the_o supper_n cast_v off_o the_o most_o of_o church-member_n from_o communion_n under_o the_o notion_n of_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a we_o have_v never_o know_v of_o these_o exorbitance_n in_o the_o church_n which_o now_o we_o suffer_v under_o by_o the_o separation_n it_o be_v a_o easy_a thing_n for_o mr._n collins_n to_o say_v the_o argument_n be_v answer_v again_o and_o again_o not_o tell_v we_o by_o who_o nor_o how_o but_o if_o it_o be_v not_o better_o answer_v than_o he_o have_v do_v it_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o mr._n barksdel_n he_o must_v 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distinction_n above_o we_o know_v in_o the_o church_n not_o the_o hearer_n of_o the_o word_n but_o the_o doer_n thereof_o shall_v be_v blesy_v in_o their_o deed_n person_n in_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o observe_v and_o do_v all_o that_o christ_n in_o his_o word_n have_v command_v upon_o that_o account_n they_o have_v the_o promise_n of_o his_o gracious_a presence_n and_o if_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o good_a of_o his_o church_n why_o may_v we_o not_o expect_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o blessing_n this_o for_o the_o spiritual_a good_a of_o his_o church_n as_o all_o the_o rest_n mr._n collins_n must_v give_v strong_a reason_n to_o deny_v it_o a_o convert_v ordinance_n then_o these_o or_o else_o he_o have_v better_o have_v say_v nothing_o i_o think_v mr._n gillespie_n may_v have_v furnish_v he_o with_o a_o great_a strength_n than_o so_o next_o he_o say_v either_o the_o word_n alone_o read_v at_o the_o administration_n be_v to_o convert_v or_o word_n and_o sign_n make_v up_o the_o sacrament_n if_o the_o word_n only_o he_o think_v wicked_a man_n may_v stay_v and_o hear_v that_o if_o we_o say_v more_o we_o must_v prove_v it_o this_o answ_n as_o it_o be_v no_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o negative_a so_o it_o need_v not_o be_v answer_v for_o his_o main_a thing_n in_o this_o be_v to_o bid_v we_o prove_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n the_o which_o i_o conceive_v be_v clear_o do_v already_o and_o when_o mr._n collins_n be_v able_a to_o exclude_v the_o sacrament_n from_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n in_o the_o church_n and_o exclude_v word_n and_o prayer_n in_o order_n to_o the_o sacrament_n from_o that_o work_n and_o end_n of_o convert_v in_o the_o church_n and_o can_v exclude_v this_o ordinance_n from_o be_v a_o spiritual_a instrument_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n to_o quicken_v who_o he_o will_v and_o can_v exclude_v the_o unregenerate_a 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