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A27219 Exercitations concerning the pure, and true, and the impure, and false religion. By Charles de Beauvais rector of the parish of Witheham, in the county of Sussex Beauvais, Charles de. 1665 (1665) Wing B1640B; ESTC R218158 122,145 318

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demand to know of them what Learning is wherein it consisteth and how it may be gotten 2. Unlesse they have some special means and as it were some secret way to attain unto it which others have not The said Reformed see not why the Jesuites and others such like Popish Doctors should think that they have gotten a greater Measure of Learning and Wisdome then others who have used as great indeavour as themselves 3. And therefore the said Reformed Doctors may think that it is some spice of Pride in the Jesuites and their fellows to object Ignorance unto them 4. Who for any thing that appeareth have no cause to bragge of such knowledge or to challenge more to themselves then they may safely grant to another 5. Besides there are none of the Reformed Doctors how unlearned soever the Jesuites and others their fellows think they are but by the grace of God and the Light of his Word can easily discover the Falshood and Corruption of the Religion of the Church of Rome There is an unity in the Protestants Faith and Concord among the Protestants And how Considerable against the Slanders of Papists 1. VVE acknowledge that there be differences and jarres among the Protestants 2. But we deny that there is any such discord or difference among them as dissolveth the unity of Faith Essential to the true Church 3. The difference among the Protestants is no other then such as hath formerly been in the true Church of Christ since the Apostles age which is represented in the end of this Thesis 4. It is not in point of Faith or Primitive Articles of Faith or about things Essential in the object of Faith 1. But the difference is either in accidental probable and secondary points 2. Or touching things difficult in Religion for the searching out of the verity whereof it is profitable that Learned men proceeding modestly do dispute pro and contra 3. Or else the disagreement is personal either among private men or raised by private men Schismatically and Factiously against the Church 5. Now if our Adversaries who object Division unto the Protestant Churches dispute the question of Unity in it self the Scripture and the Fathers and the History of the Church will convince them That Unity in the substance of Faith and of Religion observed by the firmest Members of the Church is simply necessary and an essential property of the Church And other Unity is of the perfection and well being of the Church and yet contingent and variable sometimes greater sometimes less and at no time absolute in all the parts And the same many times is greatly wanting by reason of the Malice of wicked Imps. 6. In the dayes of Constantine wherein it is acknowledged by all men that the visible society of Christians was a true Church There hapned so grievous and unseemly contentions among the Bishops and Pastours that the discord of Christians was brought upon the Stage And Religion was derided and traduced by Infidels 7. Saint Augustine acknowledgeth that the concord of Godly men in this Life wherein they are not perfect but proficient is sometimes interrupted with discord and dissention ariseth even among Brethren and Saints And there be divers things saith he wherein the best learned and most worthy defender of the Catholick rule without prejudice to the Body of Faith do not accord And one of them speaketh more truly then another of the same thing 8. If it be objected that Luther saith that the differences between him and Zuinglius and Calvin are not in small points of Government and Ceremonie c. The Answer to that is that Luthers personal and fretful speech proceeding from passion against such as were contrary minded to him prove that godly men have infirmities and are sometimes over-bitter one against another Like as Cyprian was against Pope Stephen calling him proud ignorant and of a blind and wicked mind and as Epiphanius was against Chrysostome But they are not sufficient to demonstrate that Protestant Churches want the Note of Unity neither doth condemning and Anathematising one another imply dissension in profound points of Religion but may proceed from affection and from want of charity This appeareth by Pope Victor proclaiming Anathema against the East Churches about an Adiaphorous Ceremony It appeareth also by Pope Stephen and by Sergius condemning their predecessor Formosus and raking him being defunct out of his Grave c. 2. 1. IF our Adversaries of the Church of Rome will proceed substantially and prove that there is discord of Faith and of Doctrine among the Protestants they must perform these two things 1. They must produce the principal part of Doctrine belonging to the main object of Faith and demonstate that the Protestant Churches which are reputed Orthodox are divided in these For we have nothing to do with Anabaptists Arians c. 2. They must also give instance in such persons as are reputed sound Members and what parts of the several Churches wherein they live Not of Novellists Incendiaries and Extravagants which are condemned and resisted by the sound and best parts of the Church Rom. 16.17 A Representation of good Magistrates and truly Christians towards the Reformed Religion 1. SUch Magistrates are those who have been alwayes zealous lovers of Christs Gospel and who by their godly Wisdom have done their endeavour to advance greatly the Lords cause from time to time And to hinder the practices of the Adversaries 2. True Religious men ought to beseech the Lord to increase in those Godly Magistrates all those Christian vertues to the benefit of Christs Church and of the Common-wealth of all the Estates where the Reformed Churches are gathered and tollerated Concerning the Church and Religion of England touching the Conversion of England by Augustine the Monk 1. GAlfridus Monumetensis writeth that before Augustine the Monk came in England in the time of Gregory the Great Truth was preached there and sincere Doctrine delivered Vide Godofri Mon. de Orig. gest Britan Libr. 8. cap. 4. 2. Augustines pretended conversion of England was onely the planting of some trifling Ceremonies Of the shaking off of the Ropes yoak by Henry the Eight King of England 1. IT is a thing much to be admired that Henry the Eight King of England having written against Luther in the Popes behalf and for a reward of his affection and pains having received the glorious Title of Defendor of the Faith yet shortly after withdrew himself from the Popes Jurisdiction and became his open and profest Enemy 2. Which Act did seem to many to have proceeded from a cause very little commendable as if it had been onely in revenge that the Pope crossed him in the fruition of his pleasures 3. But it is most certain that the exquisite consideration both of the Kings and of the Popes proceedings thereupon doth cause us to lift up our minds to an higher cause and obliges us to confess that Gods providence hath been manifested therein in a particular
161 3. In Respect of the Popes Court 162 4. Again of the great and scandalous Incontinency of the Roman Clergy by reason of their single Life 163 Chap. 35. In what regard the name of Catholicks is given to the Members of the Church of Rome by some of the Reformed 165 Chap. 36. God from Time to time hath raised Godly Men that have cried against the Errors of the Roman Church and have Discovered them 166 Chap. 37. Concerning the Greek Church with the following Exercitations 1. The Greek Church could never yet be brought to joyn Her self to the Church of Rome and it is as opposite to Her as ever the Reformed Church was 167 § The Turks are beholding to none more then to the Pope for their possession of Greece and of the Eastern Empire which hath caufed the Miserable slavery of the Greek Churches 168 § Thereupon a most humble Address to the Christian Princes and States 169. n. 2 Chap. 38. Concerning the Waldenses See of them briefly Page 179. Art 5. SECT 3. Chap. 1. Of the Reformation of the Church in general with a full Thesis 169 Chap. 2. Of the last Reformation in particular made by Luther Zuinglius Bucer Calvin c. Chap. 3. Of the Reformed Church and Religion with this Exercitation 1. Which Churches and Assemblies are comprehended properly under the Appellation of Reformed Churches Affirmatively and Negatively 173 Not those of the Socinians and Anabaptists 173 Chap. 4. Concerning the First Reformers of the said Reformed Churches with the Exercitations 1. What esteem the Reformed make of the said Reformers and how far it doth extend 171 Again of the same Matter in three several Exercitations The 1. is page 180 The 2. is page 181 The 3. is page 183 2. Concerning the Contention between Luther and Zuinglius about the Sacrament of the Lords Supper 183 3. Luther retained his Error concerning Consubstantiation of his old Leaven wherewith in time of Papistry his Judgment was corrupted 182 4. Refutation of this shift of the Jesuites that because Luther was in that Error ●●erefore 〈◊〉 Refutation of their Opinions and Doctrin●● is not ●●●siderable 〈…〉 Chap. 5. Concerning the Reformed Churches themselves 1. Conjoyntly 2. Separately Chap. 6. Of the Reformed Churches Conjoyntly with the following subordinate Heads Head 1. The Reformed Churches have had just Causes to separate themselves from the Church of Rome 198 2. And therefore they are not Schismatical 198 § It is not a sound Argument of the Jesuites to Convince the Reformed of Schisme That they have separated themselves from the Communion of the Church of Rome 188 3. By such a Separation of the Reformed Churches they did not separate themselves from the Communion of the Catholick Church but onely from the communion of a particular corrupted Church Art 11 12 13 4. And the said Reformed Churches do declare That they are the same in kind with all the good Churches which have been in the world before them Head 2. The Reformed Religion is true and Orthodox and their Faith is sound 174 Head 3. Also the Reformed Churches Truly and Properly so called are Pure and Orthodox having the true Notes and Marks of the true Church 196 Head 4. And therefore it is falfe that the Reformed Churches and Religion are Heretical 185 § It is a false Maxim of the Jesuites That for not to be an Heretick one must have Communion with the now Church of Rome and must acknowledge the Pope for the Head and Monarch of the Church See 186 187 Head 5. Concerning the Antiquity of the Reformed Religion 176 With two Exercitations The first is page 176 The second is page 178 Head 6. Refutation of a New Sleight and Device of a Seminary Priest of Rhemes against the Religion of the Reformed Churches 193 Head 7. Concerning the Acknowledgement of a Seminary Priest of Rhemes That 3. Articles of the Controversies propounded by Bishop Jewel were and are of weight 1. The Supremacy of the Pope 2. The Corporal Presence 3. The Sacrifice of the Mass 194 c. Head 8. Against the Reconcilement and Reunion of the two Religions the Reformed and the Roman 205 Head 9. Against Toleration of false Religions with the Pure and Reformed Religion when they differ in Fundamental Articles 206 Head 10. Refutation of this slander of the Popish Doctors That the Reformed are Enemies to Scriptures 207 Head 11. Answer to this Demand of the Popish Writers to the Reformed by what Authority They maim and rob the Corps of the Bible meaning their Rejection of the Apocryphal Books from the Canon of Faith 208 209 Head 12. Refutation of this Accusation of the Jesuites That in the Religion and Doctrine of the Reformed there is no Stay or Certainty 210 Again of this matter 211 Head 13. Of the Troubles and Differences which happens in the Church about Religion In a full Thesis Again of the same matter 242 Head 16. The Remedy to such Contentions is by a Synod or a Council 243 Head 17. There is Vnity in the Reformeds Faith and Concord among them and how 212 217 Head 18. A Refutation of this Accusation of the Popish Writers That in the Doctrine of the Reformed Churches many Paradoxes are to be found And that in General 213 § It is in the Doctrines of the Church of Rome that many Paradoxes are to be found 215 Head 19. The Doctrine of the Reformed Churches That the Ministers of God have Power to forgive sins if the sinners repent and believe the Gospel maketh not the said Minister into be Priests as they are called in the Church of Rome 209 Head 20. The Reformed Doctors of the Reformed Churches are impudently accused of Ignorance by the Popish Writers 216 Head 21. Rejection of the injurious Names given to the Reformed by the Popish Writers and what names the Reformed do approve and make use of 201 Head 22. A Representation of good Magistrates and truely Christians toward the Reformed Religion 220 Chap. 7. Of the Reformed Churches Separately in regard 1. Of the Protestants called by the vulgar Lutherans 2. In regard of the Reformed Religion and Church of the Kingdome of England See of both in the following Section SECT 4. 1. Of the Reformed called Protestants and Lutherans by the vulgar And what differences in Religion there is between them and the other Reformed called Evangelicks and Calvinists by the vulgar 190 Of the Religion and Church of the Kingdoms of England with many Chapters concerning them Chap. 1. Consisting in the following Narrations 1. What Augustine the Monk sent in England by Pope Gregory did after his coming in there 221 2. Of the shaking off of the Popes yoak by Henry the 8. King of England 221 3. Of the demolishing of Monasteries in England by the said King Henry 222 4. Of the Reformation of the Church and Religion of England begun by King Henry 224 5. In Queen Mary 's time extream was the Cruelty toward the Reformed 252 Chap. 2. Consisting in
Marks and Parts of the True Religion 1. Teaching to know one onely God Creator of Heaven and Earth And who Conserves And Governs All Things By his Providence 2. It Discovers to the sinful Man the true Mean to be Reconciled with God Namely By the Mercy of Jesus Christ our Redeemer By whom Alone Having Satisfied the Justice of God his Father His wrath may be Appeased towards Sinners who Repent And Believe 3. It Prescribes in what Manner the true God is to be Served And Honoured Namely in Spirit and in Truth Refers All to the Glory of God And the Salvation of Men And Admits Nothing Either Absurd Or unjust Of the Agreements And of the Differences Between the Religion of the Ancient Jewes And the true Christian Religion which we Christians doe imbrace 1. Of the Agreements between both the said Religions 1. GOd is the Authour and the Efficient Cause of both 2. Christ is the foundation of both By whose onely merit all the Faithful since the first sin of our first Parents have been and are reconciled unto God See Heb. 13.8 Rev. 13.8 3. As Christian Religion so the Religion of the Ancient Jewes did aim to stirre up a defire of the blessed Immortality and to confirm the hope of the same 4. Both the Religions did bring and doth bring Justification and Sanctification to the Faithful of the Old and of the New Testament See John 8.56 5. Both the Religions have been sealed and confirmed to the Faithful of the Old and of the New Testament by the self-same Holy Spirit 2. Of the Differences between both the said Religions 1. THe Religion of the Ancient Jews did belong onely to one Nation and People The Christian Religion belongs to all People 2. The Religion of the Ancient Jews by many Ceremonies did shadow and represent Christ which was to come The Christian Religion doth teach and clearly publish that he is come 3. In the Religion of the Ancient Jews the Lord under some earthly benefits did represent the fruition of the heavenly Inheritance But in the Christian Religion directly he doth direct our minds to the Meditation of Eternal Life Omitting those earthly means and helps which he did use towards the Ancient Jewes 4. The Religion of the Ancient Jewes was darker But the Christian Religion is Clearer 5. In the Religion of the Ancient Jews the Rites of their Sacraments were bloody And difficult Namely the Rites of Circumcision and of the Paschall Lamb. But in the Christian Religion they are without blood and Easy 3. 1. FRom the abovesaid Things it appears That since the first Sin of Adam there hath been but one way to attain to the fruition of Salvation And this way hath been the Faith in Jesus Christ the Mediator See thereof Gen. 3.17 and Chapt. 22.18 Act. 15.11 and 10.43 2. Therefore the doctrine of those is to be rejected who teach a three-fold way to attain unto Salvation Namely 1. One to those who did live before the written Law by the observation of the Law of Nature 2. The second to those who did live under the written Law by the fulfilling of the same 3. And the third to those who did and do live under the grace of the Gospel by the Faith in Jesus Christ 3. The Reason why such Doctrine is to be rejected and exploded is because the Faithful and Believers under the Old Testament have had Redemption in Christ by his blood which was to be shed As we have by his Bloud which is shed For the Expiatory Sacrifice of Christ hath had a saving vertue not onely since it was offered unto God upon the Cross But even from the Eternal Decree of God And the Efficacy thereof hath been as well before as after it was exhibited In which regard it is said of Christ Heb. 13.8 That he is the same yesterday and to day and for ever And Rev. 13.8 Christ is called the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world 4. Therefore all the Faithful and Believers under the Law have had Redemption by Faith in Christ the Redeemer as we have under the Gospel Abraham did see the day of Christ and was glad as it is said John 8.56 He did see it by the eyes of Faith and not of the flesh Of the Mutation which happened to the First Christian Religion In the Great Prosperity and Pomp which happened to the Church under the Empire Constantine The First Christian Religion Suddenly Changed By the Introduction in It. Of the Ceremonies and Superstitions of the Pagans Converted To the said Christian Religion And in Borrowing the Words And the Ceremonies of the Jewes 1. 1. THe Church before this Empire had been bred In the Hills and Wildernesses 2. It came out of them clothed with Camels Haires That is to say Clothed with all Sobriety with all Simplicity And with all Innocencie 3. The Bishops for the most Part manifesting Her to the World Were ashamed to Present Her such to the Gentiles That is to say to Those who Newly came out Or would come out from Paganism 4. The Good Emperours Likewise Who were Desirous that the Christian Religion should be Received by Their People More Curious of the Outward then of the Inward Of the Appearance then of the Truth Of the Ceremony then of the Substance 5. They make then no Conscience to clothe the said Church after the Fashion of the Pagans And to Adorn Her with the Ornaments of the Gentiles To Fit the Christians Services and Ceremonies to those of the Pagans As far as without wrong to the Faith They did think They could do it 6. And this Proceeding was called Among Them Zeal and Prudence Which Tertullian would have called Sacriledge Being a Severe Observation of the first Simplicity And Purity as long as he Lived in the Church 2. 1. IN which Besides the said Bishops were to keep this Temperament That in the same Time being to give content to the Jews who did Imbrace the Christianism which for the most part did believe that their should be a Greatnesse under the Kingdom of the Messias They were very Glad to shew unto Them the Fulfilling Thereof in the outward Splendour of the Christian Church 2. And where They did Conceive that They should Adorn the Simplicity of the Christian Religion They willingly borrowed as much as they could The Terms or Words And the Ceremonies Of the Jewes Of the Terms or Words And of the Ceremonies Borrowed From the Jewes And the Pagans When the Christian Church Vnder the Empire of Constantine Did Passe From Persecution to Peace And from Thraldome To the Domination 1. AS All the Outward Service of the Jewes And of the Gentiles did chiefly Consist in Sacrifices Those of the Gentiles without a certain Scope And those of the Jewes aiming All at One onely Jesus Christ It did seem hard and scandalous unto Them To Abolish all Sacrifices Because Those New Converts believed That Religion could not be without such Sacrifices Not
Papists give the Churches Authority to the Pope And take all Authority quoad nos from the Scripture So that by the Church they understand the Pope 1. THe Papists 1. take all Authority from the Scripture 2. They give it to the Church And 3. They give the Churches Authority to the Pope 2. I say 1. That the Papists take all Authority quoad nos from the Scripture which appears in that they teach that it is not the ground or pillar of truth Nor properly and of it self any Cause or Means of Belief or of Charity And that God doth not immediately speak by it Neither is the Holy Ghost joined with the writing of the Scripture And that the Church is not subject to the Scripture And that put case any person living out of the Communion of the Roman Church do read or study the Scripture it is not the word of God to them or of greater Authority then Aesops Fables 3. I have said 2. That the Papists give all Authority to the present Roman Church This appears in that they make it the onely External ground and pillar of Truth The sole Judge of Controversies The principle or first ground and foundation from whence the Scripture in regard of men receiveth all Authority 4. I have said 3. That the Papists give the Churches Authority to the Pope And no Papist in these daies can or will deny This. For 1. the Positive Speeches of their greatest Doctors thereupon manifestly confirms it Ecclesiae nomine saith Gregorius de Valentia intelligimur ejus Caput Romanum Pontificem Tom. 3. Dist 1. q. 1. part 1. pag 30. And Bannes 2.2 q. 1. Ar. 10. Animadvertendum est cum Cajetano c. quod apud Thomam pro eodem omnino reputatur Authoritas Ecclesiae universalis Authoritas Concilii Et Authoritas Summi Pontificis 2. The same Assertion followeth upon the main principles of their Doctrine which are That the Pope is the prime subject of Ecclesiastical Authority And that the whole Authority of all the Body and of all the Members thereof is derived by and from him And that the promise of the perpetual Assistance of the Holy Ghost And the Infallible Judgement and the Supream Authority And other Priviledges are intailed upon his Tribunal The 2. of those Fraudes is That The Pope also is Taught by the Papists To be the true and Lawful Interpreter of the Sense of the Scriptures And the Supream Judge of Controversies Concerning Faith and Divine Worship 1. IT is most clear that the Jesuites make both the Scripture it self and the Interpretation of it to Depend upon the Authority of the Church 2. And the Church they call not the whole Multitude of Christians and Faithful Men. 3. But they Restrain both the Name and the Nature of the Church 1. unto their Bishops 2. If Thereupon we Reformed object That their Bishops may Differ touching the Sense of the Scriptures so shall we be uncertain and shall not resolve which of them to Believe but they help this and Answer That General Councils must Decide and Determine all Questions and Controversies 3. Shall we then Rest in them No more then in then the other For the Pope must be Judge over the Councils 4. So in the Conclusion The whole Interpretation of Holy Scriptures is transferred to the Pope and must be fetched out of his Breast yea and as a proper Right he so challengeth the Power of Interpreting of the Scripture That whatsoever he thinketh That must be accounted the Sense and Meaning of them Refutation of this Doctrine of the Jesuits by the Reformed Doctors 1. THat which hath been said above is the Jesuites constant and perpetual property and disposition in interpreting the Scriptures 2. Which is full of Dotage Error and Falsehood void of Advise Knowledge and Wisdome 3. For what an Absurd and horrible Thing is it that the Sense and Meaning of the Holy Scripture should depend upon one mans Judgement and Voice 4. Specially being such a one as commonly the Bishops of Rome have been Unlearned Wicked Heretical 5. And hence have proceeded all the following goodly Interpretations 1. Take Eate That is you Priests say Private Masses 2. Drink ye all of This That is onely the Priests must Drink 3. Be ye Holy for I am Holy Therefore it is unlawful for the Ministers of the Word to marry a Wife Exception of the Jesuites Which of the Popes or what Catholick Writer ever concluded this out of that place Answer to this Exception Pope Syricius did first of all so Collect And after him Pope Innocent As it may be read in Gratian Dist. 31. cap. Tenere and Dist 82. cap. Proposuisti cap. Plurimos 4. This is another like Interpretation Give not holy things unto Doggs Therefore the people must be forbidden to read the Scriptures 5. What should we number up Innumerable more of the Popes and Papists Interpretations By which they do nothing but pervert and wrest the Scriptures In Particular These be the Frauds of the Church of Rome Concerning Her first Principle Which is the Scripture 1. Fraud The Papists making Shew to Receive the Scriptures for Ground and Rule of Faith Do Disgrace Them in Joyning Traditions with Them 1. FOr as the Scriptures are Grounds And Rule of true Doctrine So are They onely Grounds And Rule 2. And as in Matters of Faith Arguments ought principally to be drawn from Them so such Arguments onely conclude necessarily As even the Schoolman Thomas Aquinas doth Directly confesse 1. Part. 1. Quaest. Artic. 8. Ad. 2. 2. Fraud The Church of Rome which Produceth Scriptures for one of Her Principles And Rules hath indeed no sufficient Scriptures For in making an old rotten Translation which we may boldly call so being compared with the Original Word of Scripture to be the Authentical Word of God and denying the Original Faithful Texts which Moses the Prophets the Apostles the Evangelists did write to be the Word of God What doth she else but plainly as it were with one dash of a Penne Cancel the whole Scriptures 2. This Homely Latin Translation is the Papists Scripture 3. Coined and Canonized of late in the Councel of Trent And never before 4. And other Scripture have They none §. Of the Corruption of the vulgar Latine Translation more Fully 1. THe Reader of the vulgar Latin Translation may manifestly perceive That in it are manifold and almost infinite Faults of all sorts 1. By Adding 2. By Omitting 3. By Mistaking Of Letters Of Points Of Syllables And of Words 4. By wrong Interpreting the Original Text. 2. Which Faults The Popish Doctors shall never be able to Approve or Justifie Though They weary Themselves never so much with Traveling and Toiling and seeking some Defence 3. When They have said what They can say for Maintenance of These Corruptions it shall for all that Appear By all Learning and Evidence of Reason that They have Neither the Old nor the New Testament in the Entire and Original
when he goes on 4. Concerning the particular Faults of the said Cardinal they appear in every point of controversie which he handles against the Reformed Churches Which particular Faults are clearly discovered and solidly refuted by the Doctors of the said Churches who did undertake the Answer to the said Controversie §. An Observation very considerable concerning the Society of Jesus and the Name of Jesuite 1. THe Societie of the Jesuites have separated Christ Else why have they separated Jesus from Christ 2. And leaving the Ancient ordinary Name of Christians which they scorn as too common they desiring rather to be called Jesuites a new Name of their own framing then to be called Christians 3. As though there were some society of Jesus priated to one kind of men separated from other Christians 4. If there be then is Christ divided 5. If not then you Jesuites are too Impudent to devise a new Society §. Exception of the Jesuites YOu Reformed set upon our Society and say we have divided Christ because certain men have chosen unto them this Name above all others to be accounted of the Society of Jesus because they have consecrated themselves wholy to advance this Name Must they therefore of necessity divide Christ Have not the English Christ Colledge in Oxford Answer of the Reformed to this Exception 1. WE will not strive much with you Jesuites about your Society of which we reformed make very small account 2. If you have for some special consideration Dedicated your selves unto Christ What is that consideration Why do not you tell us what Jesus requireth of you which all other Christians are not bound to do 3. If the Order of your profession require that you propagate the honour and magnifie the Name Jesus If for this all Christians ought not to labour at least Bishops and specially the Pope of Rome And if they be Jesuites who do this Why are not your Divines Bishops Cardinals and Popes Jesuites 4. It may be this care is far from them 5. Whereas then Names are for distinguishing of things they be needlesse and vain when there is no difference of the thing 6. Either shew us what is the proper and peculiar duties of Jesuites Or confesse that without any cause you have appropriated such a Name unto them 7. In Cambridge as well as in Oxford there are both Christ and Jesus Colledges but they that live in those Colledges are called onely Christians 8. Think you That because there are many Colledges different in Names there are many different Orders and Professions of men 9. In places distinctions of Names are necessary and without danger unlesse some Schism may happen betwixt the wals 10. Have you Jesuites no other thing to say for your Sect and Society Concerning the Conversion of Countries made by Papists What judgment is to be made of such Conversions 1. IT may happen that a corrupt Church which holdeth not the faith intirely throughout but erreth in some parcels thereof may convert Heathens 2. Such a conversion shall be mixed In some things it shall be to the true Faith In others it shall be to erroneous beleeving 3. Like as diseased Parents when they procreate Children do together with their nature and kind propagate hereditarie sicknesse 4. And that the Ecclesiastical story reporteth That the Arrians converted the Goths to Christianity 5. And such is the conversion of Heathens made by Papists Again Of the Conversion of the Americans by the Jesuites 1. The Jesuites which have assayed to make new kingdoms among the Indians did not serve Christ but the Pope 2. Nor did they enlarge the Kingdome of Christ but they did prepare for the Pope a Kingdom far from the Reformed where he may reign after he shall be banished from these countries 3. Which newly could easily have been effected by Lewis the 14 King of France if he had been willing to chastise or rather so far to punish Alexander now Pope as to take from him the Temporal Dominions of which the Popes are become Princes by the liberalitie of the Kings of France his predecessors Of the different Sects that are in the Church of Rome namely Thomists Scotists Dominicans Franciscans Jesuites COncerning these different Sects the Jesuites for Defense of them produce this Reason That all these did ever consent in Faith and differed onely in such things which might be disputed without any hazard of Faith Answer to that by the Reformed 1. BE it granted they did agree in matters of Faith Why then do they not follow all one Rule 3. For S. Paul reproved the Corinthians agreeing in Faith because they attributed to their Ministers more then was meet whilest one had Devoted himself to S. Paul another to S. Peter and another to Apollo What then shall be done to the Scotists to the Thomists and to others Are the Names of Scotus of Thomas of Francis more holy and lawful Names in their Disciples then the names of S. Peter S. Paul and of Apollo 3. Besides the difference is very great not in the name onely but in things also 4. As thus Let the Question be whether the Crosse of Christ and the Image of Christ be to be worshipped with the same kind of worship that Christ is Adored withal Doth not this appertain to Faith But Error in this will be plain Idolatry And yet the Jesuites know some of the Schoolmen stand for it Some against it 5. What of that Question which hath exercised all Churches and all Schools so long Whether the Virgin Mary had Original sin Or was ever pure and without spot 6. And infinite such Differences the Reformed do omit being matter of Faith § From hence I infer That the Vnitie pretended by the Popish Doctors to be in the Church of Rome is not so Intire and General as they would have it thought 1. BUt although it be not so yet if it proceeded of knowledge of the Truth and of faithful submission with the heartie obedience to the same truth it should deserve great Commendation 2. But springing from this Fountain That all men must obey the Pope whatsoever he teach and command without Examination or Resistance upon pain of Eternal Damnation It is altogether unworthie of commendation and praise because it is an easie matter upon this Foundation to raise up and maintain any unitie whatsoever 3. In that regard such unity is Tyrannical and Devilish 4. And in other Regards it is Carnal For in the chiefest Members of the Church of Rome it doth proceed from vain Ambition from worldly Pleasures and from filthy Covetousnesse 5. In another regard besides It is Brutish and also carnal proceeding in the most Members of Brutish Ignorance and of Fear Of the Seduction of People by the Popes and the Roman Church by their False Doctrine in General 1. IT is one of the Sinnes of the Popes and of the Church of Rome to seduce People by their False and Corrupted Doctrine 2. Which is a crying and an abominable Sin
for it is thereby to poison People and to put them in the way which leadeth unto Death 3. Of this Seduction is spoken 2 Thess 9 10. in these words Even him namely the wicked mentioned before whose coming is after the working of Satan with all Power and Signes and lying Wonders and with all deceivablenesse of unrighteousnesse in them that perish because they received not the love of the Truth that they might be saved Of the same also is spoken Apoc. 13.12 where it is said of the Second Beast That he causeth the Earth and Them which dwell therein to worship the first Beast whose deadly wound was healed And a little after namely vers 14. That this Second Beast deceiveth them that dwell on the Earth by the means of those Miracles which he had Power to do in the sight of the Beast And that he causeth all both small and great rich and poor free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads And that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark or the name of the Beast or the number of his Name And Chap. 13.7 8. It is said That it was given unto him to make war with the Saints and to overcome them And power was given him over all kindreds and tongues and nations And all that dwell upon the Earth shall worship him whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world And Chapt. 17.2 It is said That with the great Whore the Kings of the Earth have committed Fornication and the Inhabiters of the Earth have been made drunk with the Wine of her Fornication 4. All That hath been seen before the last Reformation of the Church 2. NOw as Satan to the end he may tempt the better doth often transform himself in an Angel of Light So Antichrist and his Followers to seduce better the world and to spread with greater fruit and successe the venome of his False Doctrine in corrupting that of Christ and of his Apostles hath made use of four Means the fittest for the fulfilling of his designe 1. The first of these Means consisteth in Mysteries and Secrets 2. The second of these Means consisteth in Frauds and Impostures 3. The third of these Means consisteth in Signes and Miracles 4. And the Fourth of these Signs consisteth in Persecution and Crueltie 1. I have said That the First of the Means used by the Popes and the Church of Rome to seduce People consisteth in Mysteries and Secrets 1. FOr Poperie having not found convenient openly to propound her false Doctrines hath cloathed them with Mysteries that so they may be more easily received In this regard it is said of the great Whore Apoc. 17.5 That upon her forehead was a Name written Mysterie Babylon the Great the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth 2. Let the Rationals be read and the book of Ceremonies of the Church of Rome and no piece or part of the Divine Service thereof shall be found which containeth not some Mysteries even to the Priests Garments and to the Lamps alwaies burning 3. The Doctrine of an Oecumenical and Universal Bishop and Head was softly introduced under this Mysterie That thereby the Unitie of the Church was represented 4. Marriage hath been prohibited to the Roman Clergie permitting unto them under this colour to keep Concubines And under this Mystery That Virginity is far more excellent then Marriage 5. The Life and the Monastical Vowes have been introduced under this Mystery That the Contemplative Life is by much to be preferred to the Active And that thereby Grace and Glory are merited And moreover that thereby more is done then God commandeth in his Law 6. The use of Holy Scripture in an unknown Tongue hath been introduced under this Mystery To avoid and hinder the contempt of Her Mysteries And to entertain an Union in all the Churches 7. How many Mysteries are found out in the Masse to the end that it may be received 2. I have said That the Second of the Means used by the Popes and the Church of Rome to seduce People consisteth in Impostures 1. IN that they are like to False Coyners and to Jugglers Like again to the Serpent who by Imposture and Fraud did deceive our Mother Eve and by the same Means did indeavour to seduce Jesus Christ our Saviour but was not able to do it 2. Which Impostures and Frauds have been shewed and continue to be shewed by the Popes and by the Roman Clergie in divers manners 3. We will produce in particular those divers Manners after we have set down the other Means used by the Popes and the Church of Rome to seduce People 2. I have said That the Third of the Means used by the Popes and the Church of Rome to seduce People consisteth in Signs and Miracles 1. OF them doth Christ our Saviour speak Matth. 24.24 in these words For there shall arise false Christs and false Prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders insomuch that if it were possible they shall deceive the very Elect. Of them also doth S. Paul speak 2 Thess 2.9 in these words Even him namely Antichrist whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders Of them likewise doth S. John speak Apoc. 13.14 in these words And them that dwell on the earth meaning Antichrist by the means of those Miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the Beast 2. The Popes which are that Antichrist boasting of this Gift of Miracles hath noised more of them then any other Religion Either the True Or the False Religion More then Simon the Magician did More then Mahomet hath done More then Moses and the other Prophets have done Nay more then Christ hath done and his Apostles although they have made of them in great Number 3. Is it not the most ordinarie Subject of the Legends of the Saints by which in time past the Preachers of the Church of Rome did so beat the ears of their Auditors It is true That since the Reformation of the Christians those Legends are not so much esteemed but still Citations are made out of them although not so commonly 4. But these Miracles boasted by those of the Church of Rome were not true but lying Miracles And that in regard of all manners and kinds of Causer 1. False in regard of the efficient Cause Because they were wrought by Satan who is the father of Lyes 2. False in regard of the final Cause Because they were done to introduce a false Doctrine and full of Lyes 3. False in regard of the Material Cause Because most of them are but Illusions and Impostures Not true Resurrections of some Dead as they are pretended to be Neither also curing of some Diseases 4. False in regard of the Formal Cause For if some of these Miracles are true in respect of the Matter they shall
Roman Faith 2. Yea and at this day they dissent from us in few things as Jeremy the Patriarch of Constantinople hath plainly written Answer of the Reformed to that Exception THe Reformed do answer to this Exception 1. That if that be true why are they then of the Papists accounted Schismaticks Or why do they not Obey the Pope Why came they not to the Council of Trent The Pope by all means hath sought to have them subject to Him but they still contemn him to his no small grief 2. It is true the Emperour the Patriarch and a multitude of Bishops came to the Florentine Council they agreed with them in many Things in others they dissented the Popish Transubstantiation they utterly renounced 3. At that time Josephus their Patriarch suddenly died Eugenius the Pope instantly urged a new Election they denied to make any till they came to Constantinople 4. Do not the Papists see how well they agree We have a Book of Cyril Patriarch of Constantinople in which is set down the Confession of their present Faith whereby it appeareth manifestly that they are farre nearer to the Reformed Churches in Beleif then they are to the Roman 1. The Turks are beholding to none more then to the Pope for their Possession of Greece and the Eastern Empire which hath caused the Miserable Slavery of the Greek Churches 1. IF As our Saviour Christ saith A Kingdome divided against it self cannot stand then the breaking of the strength of the Empire and weakning the power of the Christians and consequently strengthning the Turks must all be inputed to him which did rent and divide the Roman Christian Empires and of one Empire made two 2. As long as the Province and Dominions of the Empire were united We were strong enough against the Turks 3. But After Pope Leo the 10. divided the Empire the Empire of Constantinople which before had much adoe to resist the Turk was now no longer able to sustain the Burthen wanting the greatest part of the Empire 2. O Christian Princes and States unite your selves and consequently join your Forces together to pluck off from that Infidell the Turk the Empire of Greece and to join it with that of the West that so both as in Times past make but one Empire THESIS Of the Reformation of the Church in general 1. WHen the Church is infected with Errors in the Doctrine or loaded with unlawful Ceremonies or Governed by an evil Ecclesiastical Policie the Reformation thereof is not permitted to the People without the consent of the Prince and Soveraign Magistrate 2. But such a Reformation is to be made by the Prince and Soveraign as being a Right which belongeth unto him and which belongeth unto him by Divine and Humane Right 3. Neither also is it lawful to a Minister of a particular Church to change at his will the Ceremonies of his Church but if they are not to be tolerated he must with his Church make his Addresses to the Supream Magistrate to obtain from him the necessary Reformation of the same 4. The Prince being to imploy himself about the Reformation of the Church when she hath need of a Reformation ought to that effect to consult the Divines of his Countrey the most Learned the most Prudent and the most Godly and to convoke a National Synod composed of such Men. 5. It will be well done also by him to join unto his own Divines the Divines of other Reformed Churches that by that Means greater weight may be given to the Reformation which he will effect 6. The Divines assembled must carefully seek out the Truth and when they have found it the Prince ought to ordain and injoin the observation thereof 7. The said National Synod or Assembly of Divines ought to extend the Reformation of the Church to four Heads namely 1. To the Doctrine concerning Faith 2. To the Divine Worship and Service 3. To Ceremonies and outward things 4. To the Ecclesiastical Policy and Government of the Church 8. And in regard of the abovesaid four Heads the said Synod or Assembly of Divines ought to Reform the Church according to the best Form of all 9. Now a better Form of the Church cannot be conceived nor found than that according to which Jesus Christ by himself and by his Apostles did in the beginning establish and confirm the Church 10. Which hath been the Form of the Church in the Times of Christ and of his Apostles we learn it clearly out of the Books of the Evangelists and of the Acts of the Apostles and probably out of the Writings of the Doctors of the Church who lived immediately after the death of the Apostles 11. According to this Form the Church ought to be Reformed in regard of the above named four Heads bringing them back to the first beginning and to the first Springs Thas is to say to the first Antiquity 12 If it happens that between some National Reformed Churches there be a difference in regard of Ceremonies and outward things agreeing well together in regard of the Doctrine for such a difference in Ceremonies the said Churches must not be enemies one to the others But they ought to bear one another Charitably and profitably Of the 1. Reformators Luther Calvin c. What Esteem the Protestants make of the last Reformers Luther Calvin and their Associates And how far it doth extend 1. THe Protestants especially we of the Church of England acknowledge not any factious names of Lutherans Zwinglians or Calvinists with which we are injuriously nick-named by our Adversaries As of old good Orthodox Christians were called Cornelians and Cyrillians by the seditious followers of Novatus and Nestorius Phot. Cod. 280. in Excerptis Eulogii ad finem Libri Act. Conciliab Ephes in Epist Legat. Schism ad sues in Epheso pag. 281. Edit Bin. 1618. 2. With Pacianus we professe Christian is our Name and Catholick our Sur-name 3. We esteem of Luther Zwinglius and Calvin as worthy men but we esteem them not worthy to be Lords or Authours of our Faith or to lead our understanding captive both themselves were far from affecting such Divine Honour and we far from bestowing it We remember who said of Christ Hear him not hear them 4. And therefore though these mens reasons may gain our Assent their Testimony is at the best but probable we believe not what they say but what the prove 5. Much lesse can we endure being once baptized in the name of Christ to be marked with the name of any man as with a note of our servitude We disclaim the name of Calvinists we owe no service we have no dependance upon Calvin nor upon any other man as Doctor or Master of our Faith 6. We owe him and the rest of the first Reformers many thanks for their painful labours which shall remain of honourable account in all posterity We cannot bless God sufficiently for such Instruments of his glory Yet we do not Idolize their persons or adore
their Dictates and Opinions as if they were Divine Oracles That Doctor who hath the command of our Conscience hath his Chair in Heaven we love and honour such persons as our Friends yet so that we honour Truth and love it above all Friendship Which Churches and Assemblies we comprehend Properly under the Appellation of Reformed Churches 1. THey are the Churches which are entirely Reformed of which by Gods Grace we are Members 2. That is to say those Churches who having the true Marks of the Church have them also with all the Purity which is required in regard of the Doctrine of Faith and in regard of the Worship of God 1. 1. The Socinians 2. The Anabaptists Are not comprehended by the Protestants under the Appellation of Reformed and True Churches Because in their Assemblies the very Notes of the True Church do not appear 1. FOr we do not comprehend under that Appellation those Assemblies who having forsaken Idolatry Superstitions and some Errors of the Roman Church are fallen into others very great and most pernicious Such are the Assemblies of the Socinians or the New Samosatenians And such also are the Assemblies of the Anabaptists In which Assemblies the very Notes and Marks of the true Church do not appear The Reformed Religion is True and Orthodox 1. 1. THe Reformed Churches Faith is found That appears in their Belief of God the Father Of his onely Son Jesus Christ Of the Holy Ghost Of the Church Of the Sacraments Of the Ministery Of the Scriptures Of Ceremonies And of every part of Christian Belief 2. They abandon and detest as plagues and poysons all those old Heresies which either the Sacred Scriptures or the Ancient Councils have utterly condemned 3. They call home again as much as in them lieth the right Discipline of the Church which our Adversaries have quite brought into a poor and weak case 4. They punish all licentiousness of Life and unruliness of Manners by the Old and long continued Laws And with as much sharpness as is convenient and lieth in their power They maintain still the state of Kingdomes in the same Condition and State of Honour wherein they have found them without any diminution or alteration Reserving unto their Princes their Majesty and Worldly Preheminence safe and without impairing to their possible power 6. They have so gotten themselves away from that Popish Church which the Popes had made a Den of Thieves and wherein nothing was in good frame or like to the Church of God as Lot in times past gat him out of Sodome or Abraham out of Chalde Not upon a desire of Contention but by the warning of God himself 7. They have searched out of the holy Bible which they are sure cannot deceive them their sure Form of Religion and have returned again unto the Primitive Church of the Apostles and of the Ancient Fathers that is to say to the ground and beginning of things unto the very foundations and head-springs of Christs Church The Reformed Churches are the same in kinde with all the good Churches which were before them 1. THe Reformed Churches are the same with all Good Churches that had been in the World before them and do succeed the found and firm Members of the General Visible Church in whom was the Life of true Religion in the substantial matter of Faith and Godliness 2. But they having shaken off their former Errors they differ from them in manner and quality As a man who was deceived in sundry things when he becomes wiser differs from himself as he was Ignorant 3. And as a sick body when it is healed and a Commonwealth after it hath reformed disorders are in substance the same but differ in in Quality and in Goodness so the Protestant Churches have purged sundry corruptions and perfected that which was defective But are the same in kinde with all the good Churches and Christians that were before them And succeeds them of the General Visible Church in whom was the Life of Faith and of Religion Concerning the Antiquity of the Reformed Religion Jesuites THe Jesuites say That the Reformed for fifteen hundred Years could not spy out one Town one Village one House seasoned with the Doctrine that they follow Now. Answer of the Reformed 1. THe Reformed do answer That such an Accusation is very false for in the Apostles time all Churches all Cities and Towns every Family embraced the same Faith and Religion which now they profess 2. Antichrist that Man of Sin could never prevail so much nor so far in corrupting the Christian Religion and Church but a great multitude of the Saints remained and those whose Names were written in the Book of Life did utterly abhor all those filthy and wicked Superstitions of Antichrist For in the Church of Rome it self even in the worst times of it many were ever found who worshipped the God of their Fathers and kept themselves unpolluted with that horrible Idolatry And this can Histories of all Times witness which we could now Recite Vide Catalog Testium veritatis if it were needful and reckon up to the Jesuites many Houses Villages Towns Cities and Countries where Christ had many and populous Churches 3. We add That the Greek Church could never yet be brought to joyn it self to the Roman Church and it is now as opposite to Her as ever the Reformed was and is 4. Furthermore we answer to this Question of the Jesuites Where was your Church for so many years before Luther That it did never lie so hid but it was discerned by their Pope unless for so many years he persecuted shaddows § Another Answer of the Reformed to the Question of the Jesuites Where was the Reformed Religion before the Reformation made by Luther and other Divines 1. THey answer That the Apostles and the Primitive Church for almost six hundred years after Christ taught as they do 2. They answer That ever since that time there have been some that have contended for the maintenance of the Faith which they profess For Example 1. In matter of Supremacy they taught as the Reformed do till after Gregories time which was six hundred years after Christ yea Gregory himself writing against them of Constantinople held this Language If any shall call himself Vniversal Bishop I say it confidently that he is Antichrist 3. In matter of the Sacrament for a thousand years together that the People received the Wine as vvell as the Bread Aquinas cannot deny 3. In the point of Images at first the Church admitted no Images at all as Erasmus and Gregory sheweth yea Polydore Virgil confesseth That the Fathers condemned Images for fear of Idolatry and this continued till the second Nicene Council But now of late the Trent Council and Bellarmine have given unto them Divine honour 4. Bristow a Popish Doctor confesseth this The Truth is saith he that some have been in all Ages of the Protestants Opinion 5. And Illiricus Flaccus doth remember one Reynerius who
discoursing of the Waldenses a People for substance of the Protestants Religion saith in these termes They are in all the Cities of Lombardy and of Provence No Sect hath continued so long Some say it hath been since Pope Sylvesters time Some since the Apostles These Waldenses believe all Articles concerning God but they hate the Church of Rome 3. So that the Reformed have had a Church and their Religion before Luther A Refutation of this shift of the Jesuites That because Luther was in Error in Regard of his doctrine of Consubstantiation Therefore his Refutations of their Opinions and Doctrines is not to be considerable 1. THis is a strange shift indeed for is it not a miserable perverseness in the Jesuites and others Popish Doctors and Writers that being not able to maintain their own Heresies against Luther they will think to escape in the Judgement of Men from being condemned because Luther himself in one point of Doctrine erred 2. May no man convince Error but such an one as is free from Error at all Himself 3. The Scriptures are left unto us to be our Rule of Truth by them must all Doctrine be squared and directed they sit in the highest Seat of Judgement to give Sentence in every Cause 4. With Them did Luther cut down the Popish Errors 5. But one Error of Luther cannot serve to excuse infinite Errors in the Popish Church The Reformed of England France Holland c. do not Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 1. VVE are not so addicted in these Reformed Churches as to Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 2. We are no more partial unto them in this behalf then we are unto the Ancient Fathers 3. Our Religion and Faith hangeth not upon the sayings of Men be they old or young but onely upon the Canonical Scriptures of God 4. And if they be against us so long as Scripture is for us our Cause is good and we will not be ashamed thereof 5. From hence it followeth That therefore most false is it that the Papists say That our Divity resteth upon these late Writers and young Fathers whom the Jesuites and other Popish Doctors do so scornfully compare with the Old Fathers 6. We use not to alledge for proofs authentical of any Doctrine and as the Rule of our Faith Calvin Bucer or others 7. But our Traditive and Use is this Thus saith the Lord Thus say the Prophets Thus say the Apostles Thus the Evangelists Thus it is written in the Scriptures Thus we read in some Book of the Old or of the New Testament Again If Luther or any other Learned Man among the Protestants or of the Reformed in the Churches above mentioned have either Interpreted the Scripture in somthing amiss or have doubted of some one Book of Scripture whereof doubt also hath been made of old in the Church of Christ we are not to defend their Expositions or to approve their Judgement Again The particular Opinions of Luther and Lutherans are not to be objected by the Papists against the Reformation of England France the United Provinces c. 1. FOr these Reformed Churches are not bound to justifie all Luthers sayings and the Lutherans and their private Opinions no more then the Papists will be content to avouch whatsoever hath been spoken or published by any one or other famous man of their Sect. 2. Which thing if they will take upon them to perform then let them profess it or else they offer us the more injury that object still against us a saying which was never either uttered or allowed by us 3. This might suffice men of indifferent Reason § Of Luthers Error concerning the Bodily Presence in the Sacrament LVther retained this Error of his old leaven wherewith in time of Papistry his Judgement was corrupted § Another Answer of the Reformed to the Objection made by the Jesuites against Luther in regard of his Error of Consubstantiation That therefore his Refutation of their Doctrine is not to be considerable THe Reformed again return this answer to that Objection 1. That although Luther therein somthing swarved from the Truth yet that he might bring in other Causes assured thereof out of the Word of God reject the Opinions of such as dissent from the same word 2. Otherwise no Man in Defence of Gods Truth may challenge or bid Defiance to the Adversaries thereof seeing they have no Priviledge or Charter granted to them but that themselves also may be deceived § Again Concerning Luther 1. LVther say the Reformed was an excellent Man and a worthy servant of Christ 2. Whose Ministery especially it pleased God to use in revealing to these Times the Son of Perdition who fitteth in the Temple of God and advanceth himself above God 3. Yet Luther was a Man 4. And therefore no marvel if he were not exempted altogether as from Ignorance so also from Infirmities § Concerning the Contention between Luther and Zuinglius about the Sacrament of the Lords Supper 1. 1. THis Contention and Dissention was a very hard one hotly debated in many Books 2. And the same hath continued since to the great hinderance of the Gospel and offence of many 3. In which contrary Writings and Discourses are found oftentimes harder speeches of either against other then were to be wished 4. Now do come in the Popish Writers like crafty enemies and gathering a heap of such speeches out of sundry of their Books do insert the same in their Books to make their Readers acquainted therewith that seeing such earnest contention among the chiefest Professors of the Gospel they may be further withdrawn in alienation of mind from the love and liking thereof 2. Examination of that matter 1. THose speeches of either against other which are harder oftentimes then were to be wished are yet such as the godly Servants of the Lord in contention about the Truth somtimes are moved to utter against their Brethren 1. S. Paul openly and sharply reprehended S. Peter to his face whereat wicked Porphyrie catched a like occasion to rail at Christian Religion long since as our Adversaries do at these dayes 2. What a violent and troublesome contention was there between Theophilus of Alexandria and good Chrysostome of Constantinople 3. Who knoweth not how sharply Cyrillus a learned and wise Bishop of Alexandria hath written against Theodoretus a good and Catholick Bishop in a Controversie touching the Catholique Faith both Bishops both Catholiques both Learned both Godly both Excellent Pillars of the Church And yet he that readeth both their Writings would think that both were dangerous Enemies of the Church and of the Faith of Christ and to be avoided of all Christians 2. So in the Books of Luther and of Zuinglius and of those that maintain either part appeareth we grant great sharpness and bitterness of Dissention who all notwithstanding if we set the heat of Dissention aside were as godly as learned as zealous Christians as the World had any The Reformed