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B09776 The Anabaptists meribah: or, VVaters of strife. Being a reply to a late insulting pamphlet, written by Thomas Lamb, merchant, intitulled, Truth prevailing against the fiercest opposition; or, An answer to Mr. John Goodwins Water-dipping, no firm footing for church-communion. Wherein the impertinency of M. Lamb's answer, and the validity of M. Goodwin's Water-dipping, &c. are manifested by I. Price a member of the Church of Christ, whereof the said Mr. Goodwin is pastor. Price, J., fl. 1656. 1656 (1656) Wing P3332A; ESTC R182056 87,699 107

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Vision of it and causing them to stand at a convenient distance from it having prepared and raised up the devotion of their minds with much gravity of speech at last with very low genu-flections once and again and the third time also with all reverence he took off one mantle and then with the like ceremony he took off another and another until he came to the very last which was of very rich scarlet When he came to that he required them with all serious devotion of mind and thought to gather up all their visive faculties and to look stedfastly and fixedly upon the said Relique when he should unfold that last mantle which he said he was to do and to sold it up again with all holy celerity and expedition and having most nimbly opened the said mantle and with the like speed folded it up again he demanded whether they did not see it Some held their peace others said they faw nothing How said the Priest what saw you nothing did you shut your eyes are you wilfully blind Pray Sir said some of them having a little more courage then the rest pardon us but tel us what it was What it was said the priest I am sorry that you have eyes and cannot see or which is worse you wil not see but I 'le tel you what it was mary it is the breath of the Asse upon which Christ rode to Jerusalem when the people cried Hosanna unto him At which they that were silent before did professe they saw it very plainly and wondered that the rest did not see it and so they departed very thankful very much satisfied and wel apaid at their bargain In like manner Mr Lamb hath filled the eares of the World round about him vvith the mighty noise of the great truth of God concerning baptisme on his side that it is most apparently evident in his book and by the light thereof that the baptisme of believers at age in opposition to Insant baptisme is the great truth of God and that the separation from such societies as are not of the same saith and practice therein is justifiable by the Word or God that the baptisme of such persons only and that by dipping them under vvater is the initiating Ordinance into Church-fellovvship that all Congregations othervvayes gathered are little betterthen the Synagogue of Sathan though they cal themselves Jews I mean the Churches of Jesus Christ that it becomes all men and Women that would be accounted visible christians to become devout Voraries hereunto And this grand Truth is as visible in hi● book that ever and anon Heaven and Earth God Angels and me● are called to Witness mens dovvn-right vvilfulness in shutting their eyes vvhen they might see the same and do homage thereunto We have the talk of Truth in the Title truth in the trunck or body truth in the taile of the book truth in the praescripts truth in the grand-scripts truth in the post-scripts but though you unfold mantle after mantl● seaf after leaf page after page paragraph after paragraph all vvhich I confesse are richly trimd imbroidered and laced vvith many holy scriptures and devout expressions yet though you should gather up all your visive capacities and abilities of ingenuity knovvledg and Wisedom you vvil find nothing of that vvhich you seek for in this kind but meer aire and breath yea sometimes breath of a very loathsome savour proceeding from distempered and ulcerated Lungs Nay the truth is if an ingenious Reader should dismantle his book 1. Of all the impertinent passages 2 M. Lambs Book fill'd and stuff'd with impertinences Of all the Quotations of scriptures irrelative to the businesse for which they were quoted ●l Of all the vain flourishes and displaying of his colours after his conceited Victory expressed in such words as these Good Reader judg c again What man is he that doth not glory in men whose faith and practise standeth not in the wisedom of men c but must conceive c again be astonished therefore O yee Heavens and horribly afraid O earth c again good Reader what saist thou hath not Mr Goodwin the wrong end of the staff c again I appeal to the Conscience of the judicious Reader c. again Heavens Earth judge with many more of the same kind 4ly Of all his unbrotherly and unhandsome reflections upon M Goodwin let his book I say be dismantled of these and their likes he shal find it a meer skeleton a starved carkasse like one of pharaos lean kind not having so much spirit life and strength of argument to the busines he pretends unto as to be able to crawl up down in the considerations of any out blind Votaries that can discern offer sacrifice unto meer air and breath folded up in many sheets of paper For the eviction whereof let us consider that that follows in the next place viz his Epistle to the Reader which begins thus Good Reader M Lamb. GOd knoweth with what regrett of spirit I publish this Answer to M Goodwins Book c. SECT IIII. THou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain for the Lord wil not hold him gu●●●ese that taketh his Name in vain Reply How desirous are you to preach into us a strong belief of your great candor of spirit unto Mr Mr. Lamb pretends much candor of spirit to M Goodw Goodwin that ever and anon throughout your Book after you have given him a rap as you suppose you fall a stroaking him againe First strapado-like you lift him up then down with him again then up again Doth not this argue there was a sore contest between your conscience and concupiscence in the writing thereof and the Victory is deplorable If you have bitter envyings and strife in your hearts saith James glory not Mr. Lamb perplexed in his conscience about writing his Book James 3 14. Rev 8 11. Were you not under the maligne influence of the star called Wormwood mentioned by John when you wrote that book against Mr Goodwin which makes more then the third part thereof so bitter against him do you not believe it Then let me tel you How a man may know conscience from concupisence and when he is acted by the corrupt principles of the flesh viz popularity spiritual pride and vanity of mind even in seemingly devout and religious performances preaching praising printing discoursing about good things and when by the holy Spirit of God is a Question the answer whereunto would be more profitable fit for you and me to study and to understand then to contend and make war with the chariots and horsemen of Israel in and about the controversie in hand And were I to give my opinion in the question I should think it would not be an impertinency to offer this for one answer viz that in cases disputable and controversall among the godly The spirit of God doth not compel in controversal points learned
We read of mens forsaking the assembling of themselves together Rom. 16.17 We read of men making divisions and offences contrary unto the true Doctrine which they formerly received 1 Cor. 1.10 We have a caution which implyes a danger against divisions an exhortation to be perfectly joyned together in the same mind c. Implying that men are apt to divide first in judgment next in practise Act. 15.1 we read of some that did put life and salvation in an outward Ceremony urging that except men were circumcised after the manner of Moses they should not be saved circumcision it self not being forbidden until the necessity thereof unto justification was maintained In many places more we read that those persons that did with such importunity and upon penalty of life and salvation insist thus upon any thing but true faith in Christ Jesus did separate and proved very sore enemies unto their Opposits the true believers It is an easie matter to take severall yoaks of the Old Oxen of the Old-Testament as wel as the Heifers of the new to plough in this field There we read of Cautions Exhortations Dehortations Instances and Examples about forsaking the Covenant of God the Law of God the house of God c. and ploughing thus with the heifers of the holy Scriptures we may finde out the Riddle of your departing from us SECT XXI In the next place you charge us for mis-judging you Mr. Lamb in his second Epistle and bring in this as your consolation that Paul and Iohn and other holy men of God suffered in this kind and why not you Where have we judged you What hath been declared by the Church against you It is true your separation from us was voted by the Church to be in their judgments and consciences an undue act which you could not but expect the Church should do otherwaies they should do little less than justifie you But what ever your person all deportment hath been unto them whereof I delight not to make mention yet you know theirs unto you have been friendly and christian and that your company and guists yea and very countenance have been very welcome to them YOu tell us that no worldly thing separated you from the Church Mr. Lamb. and complain that some body dream't such a thing SECT XXII YOu say some dreamt of such a thing of you But is not this a dream of your own brain Reply If some body did dream so how came you to the knowledge of it Did they ever tell you the dream If they did dream it it was but a dream and will you be offended at mens dreams How come you to be so touchy However we see your mighty care to be wel thought of You will divide from us break your faith and trust with us seek to extirpate and root us up scandalize our Pastor in the eyes of all men rendring him evill for good and yet would not have any man so much as dream any thingamiss of you We cannot dream waking whatever we do while we sleep Well it was no outward thing caused you to quit your former standing but say you THe truth concerning it Mr. Lamb in his second Epistle viz. Baptism and your standing c. struck my conscience and the light shone into my Judgment with that clearness that I could by no means a●oid it with peace SECT XXIII TRuth struck your conscience Reply Striking implyes violence and suddenness Gods ordinary way in giving Light is by gradations causing it to shine more and more unto the perfect day making men to grow in grace The spirit of God not violent in enlightning mens judgements and in the knowledg of Iesus Christ Iacobs getting Venison so suddenly which was not ordinarily gotten but by much labour and pains though pleasure in hunting gave his father just cause to suspect that it was but some counterfeit Venison For my part I ever suspect sudden flashes God is not usually in the Earth-quake nor in the rushing wind but in the soft and still voice Clearness of Iudgement in cases controverted among the godly learned is not quickly attained This is Venison usually gotten after and by means of much Hunting I believe you have made it one of your observations that in these latter dayes some persons have been Planet-struck blinded and blasted when they have thought themselves Truth-struck You say the Light viz. in the Doctrine of Baptism shone into your judgement with clearness Isa 28.7 Zach 13. Men may erre in vision and afterwards be ashamed of their own Vision and lament themselves with wo unto us in that we have put darkness for Light and Light for darkness To study the wiles methods and subtilties of Satan in causing men to erre in judgement is a seasonable study in these slippery times for our Christian caution against his cunning his most thriving trade in these dayes being to transform himself into an Angell of Light SECT XXIV WE have not hitherto felt so much as the weight of your little finger in arguments You have spoken much of Truth of clear Light of truth in evidence of the Scripture of truth cloathed with the majesty of God meaning still in the point of Baptism and of withdrawing from those Churches that are not so and so baptized as if the ignorance here of were so scandalous that it renders men unworthy of the meanest place so much as of being Dore-keepers in the house of God I pray let us see your strength and shew us your Light For this end you tell us in these words Now what those considerations are Mr. Lamb that commanded my Iudgement to that point whereat it now standeth in the business of Baptisme which is that onely thing which separated between me you you ha●e scattered up and down in this my Answer to Mr. Goodwin but yet I think good to give you the summe thereof under a few Heads SECT XXV YOU say your considerations presented to us in your Epistle to the Church from whence you have withdrawn Reply do contain the sum of what is scattered up and down in your book Herein you utter in my judgment the truth for the spirit heart and soul of your book seems rather to be heated with zeal against Mr. Goodwin then for the truth Well sure the sum of all is in your considerations we will take them into our considerations also You deal your self out in the business thus 1. Mr. Lamb. I considered the excellency of Jesus Christ above Moses from thence argued the ungodliness and danger of slighting him in any of his Commandments AS for this consideration we with you speak the same thing and are perfectly joyned together in the same mind Reply and in the same judgment VVhat will you make of this to your separation from us That we shall see hereafter VVell proceed then 2. Mr. Lamb. I found Baptism with Water to be one of his viz. Christs commandments and ioyned