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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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reply_v 1._o in_o say_v christ_n be_v call_v a_o rock_n and_o peter_n a_o stone_n do_v you_o not_o more_o than_o insinuate_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o a_o stone_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o your_o own_o quotation_n ephes_n 2.20_o christ_n himself_o be_v the_o chief_a cornerstone_n though_o i_o confess_v it_o be_v not_o the_o same_o word_n in_o the_o original_n 〈◊〉_d original_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nay_o contrary_a to_o diverse_a o●her_n scripture_n where_o christ_n be_v express_o call_v a_o stone_n e._n gr_n isa_n 28.16_o behold_v i_o lie_v in_o zion_n for_o a_o foundation_n a_o stone_n act._n 4.11_o this_o be_v the_o stone_n which_o be_v set_v at_o nought_o by_o you_o bvilder_n yea_o in_o the_o very_a place_n even_o now_o by_o you_o cite_v 21.42_o psal_n 118.22_o with_o mat._n 21.42_o 1_o pet._n 2.4_o to_o who_o come_v as_o unto_o a_o live_a stone_n 2._o though_o i_o be_o far_o from_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v on_o peter_n in_o the_o popish_a sense_n yet_o i_o may_v true_o and_o safe_o hold_v that_o in_o some_o sense_n the_o church_n be_v build_v on_o peter_n for_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o peter_n be_v a_o apostle_n and_o it_o be_v as_o plain_a ephes_n 2_o 20._o we_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n this_o be_v no_o whit_n helpful_a to_o the_o papist_n nor_o hurtful_a to_o we_o 3._o admit_v the_o church_n be_v not_o build_v upon_o peter_n yet_o your_o reason_n be_v very_o weak_a because_o forsooth_o peter_n be_v or_o be_v call_v a_o stone_n sure_o you_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o gratify_v your_o dear_a mother_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n notwithstanding_o your_o loud_a cry_n as_o the_o papist_n say_v the_o learned_a give_v we_o better_a reason_n to_o instance_n only_o in_o one_o 24._o one_o chemn_v har._n mon_fw-fr cap._n 24._o peter_n have_v his_o name_n ab_fw-la illa_fw-la petra_fw-la from_o that_o rock_n for_o two_o cause_n 1._o because_o notwithstanding_o satan_n subtlety_n and_o his_o own_o infirmity_n 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may_v do_v well_o to_o examine_v thorough_o whether_o your_o church_n be_v build_v on_o the_o rock_n christ_n 2._o to_o say_v nothing_o that_o you_o do_v not_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o david_n as_o they_o be_v in_o our_o bible_n special_o verse_n 47._o if_o every_o christian_a know_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v build_v on_o the_o rock_n christ_n and_o none_o that_o own_o christ_n will_v deny_v it_o then_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v own_v i_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o my_o persuasion_n for_o christian_n and_o owner_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v neither_o ignorant_a of_o the_o one_o nor_o denier_n of_o the_o other_o this_o be_v the_o best_a if_o not_o the_o only_a piece_n of_o charity_n that_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o book_n sect_n 4._o h._n h._n but_o the_o main_a question_n be_v how_o the_o saint_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o build_v on_o this_o rock_n christ_n which_o be_v clear_o answer_v by_o these_o follow_a scripture_n mat._n 7.24_o whosoever_o hear_v these_o say_n of_o i_o and_o do_v they_o i_o will_v liken_v he_o to_o a_o wise_a man_n that_o build_v his_o house_n upon_o a_o rock_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o to_o build_v on_o the_o rock_n christ_n be_v to_o hear_v the_o say_n and_o do_v they_o and_o the_o contrary_n liken_v to_o a_o foolish_a man_n etc._n etc._n liable_a to_o danger_n and_o destruction_n act._n 3.22_o 23._o with_o 2_o thes_n 1.8_o 9_o 1_o joh._n 2.4_o rev._n 21.8_o reply_v 1_o let_v the_o reader_n consider_v whether_o those_o word_n in_o mat._n admit_v not_o clear_o a_o limitation_n to_o that_o sermon_n preach_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o mount_n for_o it_o be_v say_v for_o 24._o whosoever_o hear_v these_o say_n of_o i_o and_o do_v they_o not_o etc._n etc._n ver._n 26._o every_o one_o that_o hear_v these_o say_n of_o i_o etc._n etc._n in_o which_o sermon_n christ_n speak_v not_o one_o word_n of_o the_o nature_n or_o subject_n of_o baptism_n and_o so_o the_o design_n you_o drive_v at_o in_o allege_v these_o word_n be_v quite_o 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to_o purpose_n because_o you_o can_v not_o answer_v pertinent_o and_o to_o purpose_n for_o in_o mr._n baxters_n 1_o case_n he_o say_v 3._o say_v plain_a scripture_n proof_n for_o infant-baptism_n p._n 3._o the_o word_n be_v not_o speak_v to_o infant_n therefore_o it_o speak_v more_o spare_o of_o they_o yet_o for_o the_o comfort_n of_o godly_a parent_n god_n have_v much_o more_o full_o reveal_v his_o mind_n concern_v their_o child_n then_o of_o wicked_a and_o open_a enemy_n in_o the_o first_o that_o infant-baptism_n be_v not_o so_o great_a a_o point_n as_o many_o make_v it_o except_o by_o the_o dangerous_a consequence_n ensue_v therefore_o more_o spare_o mention_v in_o the_o second_o infant-baptism_n be_v not_o controvert_v then_o as_o some_o other_o point_n yet_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a to_o direct_v we_o for_o the_o determination_n of_o this_o too_o if_o we_o have_v wisdom_n to_o apply_v general_a rule_n to_o particular_a case_n and_o have_v sense_n exercise_v to_o discern_v 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church-member_n know_v perfect_o etc._n etc._n ver_fw-la 2._o this_o you_o prove_v not_o all_o sect_n 12._o h._n h._n ten_o argument_n from_o 1_o thes_n 2.11_o if_o paul_n do_v exhort_v and_o charge_v every_o one_o of_o the_o church_n to_o do_v these_o thing_n than_o there_o be_v no_o infant_n for_o they_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o exhortation_n consolation_n etc._n etc._n ver_fw-la 11._o therefore_o reply_v this_o i_o confess_v have_v some_o form_n of_o a_o syllogism_n viz._n hypothetical_n though_o for_o brevity_n it_o may_v have_v be_v categorical_a to_o which_o i_o say_v 1._o the_o major_n be_v grant_v if_o it_o be_v understand_v of_o immediate_a present_a exhortation_n to_o every_o particular_a member_n of_o that_o church_n without_o exception_n but_o then_o your_o assumption_n or_o minor_n be_v deny_v though_o you_o think_v it_o guard_v with_o scripture_n for_o it_o be_v not_o say_v we_o exhort_v every_o particular_a church-member_n but_o you_o i._n e._n to_o those_o grow_a 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