Elected God only knoweth who are his 2 Tim. 2.19 Q. How understand you that out of the Church there is no Salvation A. First Out of the Church of the Elect none can be saved for they that have no Communion with the Members of the Body have none also With the Head which is Christ and which is the only name by which we can be saved Secondly Out of the Communion of the Catholick Visible Curch there is no Salvation if there be not an impossibility which cannot be overcome as suppose some among the Turks and Pagans Converted to Christ at the hour of death but it is altogether necessary to Salvation when it is possible to be joyned to some Assembly of Christians and make profession of the Faith of Christ for with the heart man believeth unto Righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation Rom. 10.10 But this Maxim may not be understood of any particular Church much less of the Roman Church which is the most corrupted of all the Churches which call themselves Christian Churches SECT VII If the Church can err Quest IS there any particular Church in the world to whom God hath given this priviledge not to err but to be infallible A. There is none which hath this privilege The Church of Israel who before the coming of Jesus Christ was the only Visible Church of God hath erred and fell many times into Idolatry in the 2 Chron. 15. it is said that for a long season Israel had been without the true God and without a teaching Priest and without Law and the Prophets Isaiah 56.10 Reproaches the Church of Israel that their watchmen were all blind and ignoraant Ezek. 20.7 We may learn that the Church of Israel committed Idolatry in Egypt did she not err in making of the Golden Calf Exod. 32. And when Juda had as many gods as Cities Jerem. 2.28 And in the time of Jesus Christ the Church of the Jews was infected with many Heresies and with the evil Leven of the Pharisees and there is not to be found an example of any particular Church from the Apostles time till now that hath persisted in their purity and it was for good reason that St. Paul writing to the Church of Rome bids her take heed least she should be cut off for her incredulity Rom. 11.21 22. For she hath fallen the most heavily and gone the furthest astray from the truth of all others Q. But if it be so that every particular Church hath erred and may err then it follows that all the Church hath failed and then what will become of the promise Jesus Christ made to his Church that the Gates of Hell should never prevail again her Math. 16.18 A. Jesus Christ in that passage speaks not of any particular Church precisely but of the Church of the Elect and gives us assurance by these words that all the machinations of the World and Satan shall never be able to hinder the Church from subsisting in the Earth but that there shall be a company of Believers which shall confess his Name for the Foundation of the Lord standeth sure God knoweth who are his 2 Tim. 2.19 and notwithstanding the Corruption of the World there is all ways reserved some who boweth not the Knee before Baal 1 Kings 19.18 And if it happen that some Church fall from the Truth God raiseth up another in whom he manifests his Knowledg Q. What you say seems contrary to your received opinion that the state of the Church hath been interred A. We only understand by this the general condition of the Church in the West which by reason of the Dominion of the Pope and the Supperstitions in the Roman Church hath been interrupted or greatly Corrupted but it follows not that though there were not in the West pure particular Visible Churches that there was not in the East and other parts of the World Q. But though each particular Church may err yet General Councils assembled in the Name of Jesus Christ cannot err for Jesus Christ hath promised that when two or three are gathered together in his Name he will be in the midst of them Matth. 18.20 A. I answer it cannot be affirmed with any certainty of Faith that there hath been any Council that hath not erred in some kind except that of the Apostles Acts 15. because they were immediately and infalliably lead into all Truth as Jesus Christ promised John 14.26 The Church of Israel assemnled in Council erred having condemned Jesus Christ to death as a Blasphemer Many that have named themselves General Councils have manifestly erred as that of Nice 2. which commanded to Worship Images upon pain of Curse and Anathem and that of Constance which took away the Cup in the Sacrament from the people though they grant that Jesus Christ had Instituted it and the Primitive Church had practised otherwise such Councils though they say they are assembled in the Name of Jesus Christ are not so since they Combat his Doctrine Q. What call you then a Council assembled in the Name of Jesus Christ A. These who being assembled by his Authority submit their decisions to his Holy Word SECT VIII Of the marks of the True Church Quest BY what mark know you the True Church since there are so many and so different in their sentiments and each of them pretending to be the true one A. By that which Jesus Christ gives us John 10.27 My sheep hear my voice and they follow me and Chap. 8.31 If you continue in my word then are you my disciples indeed That is then the true Church which is Conform to the word of Jesus Christ and obeys his voice Q. But what say you to Antiquity A. That it is a deceitful mark untruth being little later then Truth An error is nor the truer because it is ancient Antiquity destitute of Truth is but an antient error as an Antient Elegantly spoke Jesus Christ said not I am Custom but I am the Truth John 14. The only Antiquity that we receive is the first Truth which we have in the Holy Scripture to the which we Appeal for the condemnation of all error saying with Jesus Christ In the beginning it was not so Matth. 19.8 Q. What juâ—gment make you of Succession in the Chair A. That is also a false mark for Hereticks may also make use of Antiquity and Succession in the Chair without Truth is void We are not to judg of the Truth of a Church by her Succession but upon the contrary of her Succession by the Truth she Teaches The Pharisees in Moses Chair corrupted the Law and at this time the Doctors of the Roman Church in the pretended Chair of St. Peter Combat his Doctrine Q. Visibility and splendor may not it be a mark of the True Church A. No for the Word of God upon the contrary foretels crosses and afflictions to befal the Church and there happens sometimes so much calamity to the Church that she
seems to be hidden or to be vanished from the Earth as when she was Captive in Egypt and in Babylon shut up in the Family of Abraham and when many days passed in Israel without the True God and without a Teachin Priest and without the Law 2. Chron. 15.3 and when Idolatry was publickly introduced into the Kingdom of Juda and into the Temple of Jerusalem Q. But the Christian Church having received more authentick promises for extention and splendor it is not likely to be invisible and that City set on a Hill cannot be hidden Matth. 5.14 A. It is true that by the calling of the Gentiles the Christian Church is more extended than that of the Jews was and there shall always be a Visible Christian Church in the World but it is not necessary to a particular Churches being pure that it be Splendent and Visible The seven thousand men that had not bowed their Knee to Baal were the true Church though they appeared not in Israel and since the Church of Jerusalem ceased not to be the True Church when Revelation 12. she was forced to fly into the Wilderness to shun the persecution of the Jews and Rev. 12. Wings are given to the Church that she might fly and hide her self in the Wilderness And Chap. 13. there is spoken of a time wherein all the Earth should Worship the Beast Jesus Christ says Luke 18.8 When he shall come he shall find no Faith in the Earth and they of the Church of Rome themselves say that Antichrist will make the Sacrifice of the Mass to cease for three years and a half Q. May not perpetual duration be a mark of the true Church A. No because perpetual duration is a thing not known but hoped for and there is no particular Church hath received any promise from God to endure for ever Q. But some will say we wonder not that you reject those precedent marks seeing it is two hundred years agoe only since you appeared in the World so that you cannot show your Succession nor where you were before Calvin and Luther A. We do not boast of our Succession but of our Truth yet we prove sufficiently that our Religion is not new but the first and most antient in making appear that we have the same Religion that Christ and his Apostles had and being truth it self by consequent it could not be interrupted Truth being Eternal and immutable and there must needs therefore always have been some Church in the World that hath made profession thereof for the Gates of Hell cannot prevail against the Church Those then that ask us where our Religion was before Luther and Calvin we will ask them where theirs was in the time of Christ and his Apostles both of us begin the History of our Religion at that time Q. May not multitude be a good mark of the True Church A. No more than the rest for it agrees better-with a false than with a True Church Jesus Christ commands us to enter in at the strait gate for broad is the way that leadeth to destruction and many there be which go in there at Matth. 7.13 and Luke 12.32 he calls his Church the little flock and Exodus 23.2 we are forbidden to follow a multitude to do evil in short multitude cannot be a good mark of the True Church since Pagans and Mahumetans are more in number than the Christians and amongst the Christian Churches the Hereticks are commonly more numerous than the Orthodox as Christian Catholicks were fewer than the Arians Q. What think you of Miracles A. That we have reason to suspect that Mark since Jesus Christ hath foretold us Matth. 24.24 That false Christs and false Prophets shall arise shewing great signs and wonders and St. Paul foretels us 2 Thess 2.9 That the son of perdition will come with signs and lying wonders Q. How know you that the Miracles of the Roman Church are lying wonders A. First Because they give Authority to lies as Worshiping of Images and Praying to Saints Secondly Because often they are not done in the Name of God and Jesus Christ as the Miracles of Jesus Christ and his Apostles but in the name of some Images or Saint Thirdly Because they are feigned inventions and contrivances to deceive the simple and credulous and to keep them in their Superstition therefore they do them not in publick before those they call Hereticks to Convert them but secretly without Witnesses Q. Hath the True Church no Miracles A. Yes Those of Jesus Christ and his Apostles which having sufficiently comfirmed the Doctrine declared to us we have no need of new Miracles to give Authority thereto an Evil and Adulterous Generation seeketh after a sign Matth. 12.39 16.4 Signs are not for them that believe but for them that believe not 1 Cor. 14.22 Q. May the titles of Catholick and Holy be marks of the True Church A. No Because names are not essential properties and an Heretical Church may as well assume these Titles as the True one besides the Title of Catholick or Universal can be no mark of any particular Church Q. What think you of Vnion A. That it is not an absolute mark of the Church for it is found in false and Heretical Churches which are well United but Union in Faith and Conformity to the Word of God is a true mark of a Church but if destitute of Truth it is only a conspiracy against God Q. What judgment make you of Holiness A. That is the only right mark of the True Church provided that Holyness in Doctrine be understood as well as in manners SECT IX Of our Separation from the Roman Church Quest WHy have you separated from the Church of Rome A. Because our Conscience would not suffer us to partake of her Errors and Superstitions since we find not in her the only mark of the True Church which is Conformity to the Word of God nor the pure Administration of the Sacraments Q. But ought not Christian Charity and the love of peace make us bear with their errors St. Paul tells us that Charity beareth all things 1 Cor. 13.7 and should the infirmities and faults of our brethren make us separate from them and break the Vnion of the Church by a Schism A. We must bear with our Neighbours faults but we must not consent to them now we cannot continue in Communion with an Heretical Church but we must consent to their Errors 2 Cor. 6.14 What Fellowship hath Righteousness with Unrighteousness and what Communion hath Light with Darkness and what agreement hath the Temple of God with Idols And it were not just that to please our Neighbours we should defile our selves with their Superstition St. Paul recommends Truth to us as well as Charity and Ephes 4.3 he would have us to keep the Unity of the Spirit in the bond of Peace Q. But may not our separation be justly accused of Schesm A. No For it is not absolutely Separation which makes
Bondage Gal. 5.1 And Secondly in that passage of St. Paul 1 Tim. 4. where he calls them seducing spirits that teach to abstain from meats that God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe the Truth he speaketh in the general without any restriction and Colos 2.22 23. He condemns them that say Touch not Tast not Handle not though such things had a shew of Wisdom in Will-worship and Humility and neglecting of the Body not in any honour to satisfying of the flesh Now the forbidding to eat flesh upon certain days must be of these kind of Ordinances Q. Do you blame then all manner of Fasts A. No for though Fasting of it self be an indifferent thing yet it becomes profitable and good when Superstition and the opinion of Merit is separated from it and when it is employed to subdue the flesh and humble the mind to help forward Repentance and to excite Zeal in Prayer and therefore the Scripture ordinarily joyns Prayer and Fasting together Matth. 17.21 Jesus Christ saith that There is a kind of Devils that goeth not out hut by prayer and fasting And 1 Cor. 7.5 St. Paul would would have the Husband and the Wife to separate themselves for a time to give themselves to Fasting and Prayers Q. When is Fasting requisite A. First In time of Affliction either publick or private for extraordinary Humiliation before God in such a time is needful as in Joel 2.15 when the Church was in distress they were commanded to Blow the Trumpet in Sion sanctifie a Fast call a solemn Assembly Secondly When it is necessary to make Request by Prayer to obtain something of importance for the Church and to obtain a Blessing upon their Ministry Acts 14.23 And besides these publick Fasts every one ought to fast and to implore the Mercy of God for their Falls and for his assistance in dangers for to prepare them better for the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper SECT XXIV Of Holy Days Quest WHat do you blame in the Church of Romes Holy Days or Feasts A. First That it is a departing from the Liberty that God hath given us in the fourth Commandment Six days shalt thou labour Secondly By them the Yoke is again put upon the Christians which Jesus Christ delivered us from by his death as heavy or heavier than it was upon the Jews Whereas S. Paul commands Colos 2.16 17. Let no man judge you in meat or in drink or in respect of an Holy Day or of the New Moon or of the Sabbath days which are a shadow of things to come but the Body is of Christ Thirdly That they are dedicated to the Saints Fifthly That the Observation is required as a thing as necessary as the Observation of the Lords Day Sixthly That they think they merit Salvation by the Observation of them Q. Are you then against all Holy Days except the Sabbath day A. Believers may profitably assemble themselves together on other days as well as on the Sabbath day to celebrate the Memory of signal Deliverances that we have received from God by Jesus Christ by Prayers and Thanksgiving and Meditation on the Word to give thanks for extraordinary deliverance or for publick humiliation provided that these days be celebrated without Superstition and without Scruple of Conscience and without an Opinion of any particular Holiness in that day or Merit in its Celebration SECT XXV Of the Providence of God Quest DOth any thing happen in the World that is not ordered by the wise Providence of God A. No For A Sparrow falleth not to the ground without the Will of your Father which is in heaven and the very hairs of your head are all numbred Matth. 10.29 Q. Do Evils come to pass by His Will and Permission A. Yes For if he would not have them to come he is Almighty and could hinder them Amos 3.6 Shall there be Evil in the City and the Lord hath not done it Doth not Evil and Good proceed from the Most High Lam. 3.38 Q. These places speak of Afflictions and Calamities which happen to men by the Providence and Permission of God for the manifestation of his Justice in the punishment of the wicked and of his Goodness in trying of his own people But do you believe that the sins and actions of the wicked are ordered by the Providence of God A. Yes For the Word of God shews us that the selling of Joseph by his Brethren came to pass by the Providence of God for the preservation of Jacob's Family Gen. 50.20 As for you ye thought evil against me but God meanâ— it unto good to bring to pass to save much people alive Likewise the taking away Joh's Goods was an effect of God's Providence for his trial and therefore he says The Lord hath given and the Lord hath taken away blessed be the Name of the Lord Job 1.21 And S. Peter saith Act. 2.23 that Jesus Christ was delivered by the determinate Counsel and Fore-knowledge of God And Act. 4.27 28. he speaks thus Of a truth against thy holy Child Jesus whom thou hast annointed both Herod and Pontius Pilate with the Gentiles and the people of Israel were gathered together to do whatsoever thy Hand and thy Council determined before to be done Q. Can this be and God not be the Author of sin nor Partaker of the sins of the wicked A. Yes Even as a Physician gives not to Leeches their bloody Nature but doth fitly himself with the inclination of this Animal to draw blood of his Patient for his health and comfort so God doth not give to the wicked their wickedness nor incite them to evil against his Children but doth wisely employ their wicked inclinations for their Consolation and Salvation knowing how to make all their evil designs serve by his admirable Providence the end that he hath determined and tend to the accomplishment of his wise and holy Will Q. Doth not that excuse the wicked since they only execute the Will of God A. No For they do it without their knowledge and contrary to their intentions for we are not to rule our Actions by God's Decree which is unknown to us but by his Commands which are revealed to us Deut. 29.29 Secret things belong unto the Lord our God but these things which are revealed belong unto us and to our Children SECT XXVI Of Man's Free Will in the State of Sin Quest IS Not this Doctrine of Providence contrary to that of Man's Free Will A. Not at all For God so governs the things of the World that he lets them act according to their nature and inclination necessary things necessarily and the Free as Men and Angels freely Q. Wherein consâ—sts the Free Will and Liberty of Man in the State of Sin before Regeneration A. In four things 1. in Natural Actions as Eating and Drinking 2. In Civil Actions as Buying and Selling. 3. In external good and vertuous Actions as frequenting the Assemblies of God's People giving