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A76262 A Legacie left to Protestants, containing eighteen controversies, viz. 1. Of the Holy Scriptures. 2. Of Christs Catholick Church, &c. 3. Of the Bishop and Church of Rome, 4. Of traditions needfull, &c. Bayly, Thomas, d. 1657?,; T. B. 1654 (1654) Wing B1512; Thomason E1667_2; ESTC R208395 72,275 206

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