first_o settle_v in_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o this_o can_v be_v doubt_v it_o be_v not_o so_o i_o do_v both_o doubt_v it_o and_o be_o sure_a of_o the_o contrary_n christ_n settle_v the_o moderation_n of_o the_o key_n first_o in_o 18.17_o in_o mat._n 18.17_o the_o church_n his_o commission_n to_o his_o apostle_n be_v give_v 20.23_o give_v mat._n 28.19_o joh._n 20.23_o after_o not_o deprive_v the_o church_n of_o her_o former_a power_n but_o join_v the_o apostle_n &_o their_o successor_n to_o she_o as_o her_o guide_n withal_o two_o thing_n further_a be_v to_o be_v note_v 1._o doct._n bilson_n here_o make_v all_o pastor_n indifferent_o to_o have_v power_n to_o minister_n and_o deny_v sacrament_n &_o censure_n whereby_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n only_o have_v not_o this_o power_n for_o say_v he_o they_o the_o ordinary_a minister_n must_v be_v trust_v with_o both_o or_o with_o neither_o 162._o neither_o pag._n 110._o 133._o 162._o 199._o 162._o you_o must_v free_v they_o from_o both_o or_o leave_v both_o unto_o they_o wherein_o also_o none_o may_v compel_v they_o or_o force_v they_o sure_o this_o quite_o overthrow_v his_o own_o practice_n and_o state_n and_o the_o whole_a order_n in_o england_n 2._o we_o may_v observe_v a_o syllogism_n in_o his_o own_o word_n here_o &_o elsewhere_o speak_v indefinite_o of_o those_o which_o have_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n he_o say_v 111._o say_v pag._n 111._o they_o must_v look_v not_o only_o what_o they_o challenge_v but_o also_o from_o who_o they_o derive_v it_o if_o from_o the_o apostle_n then_o be_v they_o their_o successor_n if_o from_o christ_n as_o colleague_n join_v with_o the_o apostle_n we_o must_v find_v that_o consociation_n in_o the_o gospel_n before_o we_o clear_v they_o from_o intrusion_n no_o man_n shall_v take_v this_o honour_n unto_o himself_o but_o he_o that_o be_v call_v of_o god_n as_o the_o apostle_n be_v if_o they_o be_v call_v by_o christ_n 5._o heb._n 5._o read_v their_o 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115._o &_o father_n and_o council_n if_o they_o absolute_o exclude_v the_o people_n consent_n i_o leave_v under_o his_o own_o censure_n 22â—_n censure_n here_o and_o also_o pa._n 22â—_n before_o observe_v but_o i_o take_v they_o to_o mean_v otherwise_o though_o indeed_o a_o very_a great_a power_n and_o almost_o absolute_a be_v now_o exercise_v by_o many_o diocesan_n bb._n in_o excommunication_n &_o absolution_n he_o say_v cyprian_n &_o augustine_n yield_v the_o people_n a_o consent_n be_v 119._o be_v pag._n 119._o not_o for_o any_o right_n they_o have_v but_o to_o prevent_v scandal_n but_o their_o right_n both_o by_o precept_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o apostle_n be_v sufficient_o show_v before_o yet_o indeed_o it_o be_v to_o prevent_v scandal_n among_o the_o people_n also_o which_o very_o point_n be_v a_o firm_a reason_n likewise_o that_o this_o spiritual_a liberty_n of_o the_o people_n than_o be_v their_o right_n for_o first_o they_o can_v not_o be_v scandalize_v so_o oft_o fear_v to_o loose_v their_o consent_n in_o such_o affair_n so_o many_o age_n together_o and_o in_o so_o far_o distant_a country_n but_o that_o they_o be_v then_o teach_v and_o they_o learn_v from_o time_n to_o time_n that_o this_o be_v their_o right_n if_o the_o contrary_a than_o have_v be_v teach_v than_o they_o can_v not_o have_v be_v scandalize_v nor_o make_v jealous_a lest_o they_o may_v be_v wrong_v in_o this_o behalf_n as_o they_o be_v that_o they_o be_v be_v manifest_a by_o all_o monument_n of_o those_o time_n and_o by_o our_o adversary_n confession_n therefore_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o spiritual_a government_n be_v then_o teach_v and_o it_o be_v their_o right_n in_o the_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n and_o true_o this_o ever_o have_v be_v be_v and_o will_v be_v scandalous_a and_o offensive_a just_o to_o a_o christian_a understanding_n congregation_n viz._n to_o have_v any_o thing_n spiritual_o and_o ecclesiastical_o force_v on_o they_o the_o case_n be_v 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accidental_o my_o meaning_n be_v that_o as_o those_o particular_a congregation_n have_v in_o they_o godly_a and_o holy_a christian_n consociate_v together_o to_o serve_v god_n so_o far_o as_o they_o see_v agreeable_o to_o his_o word_n so_o they_o be_v in_o right_a from_o christ_n essential_o true_a church_n of_o god_n and_o be_v so_o to_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o we_o and_o in_o public_a not_o to_o be_v absolute_o separate_v from_o but_o in_o respect_n as_o these_o congregation_n be_v part_n of_o proper_a diocesan_n and_o provincial_n church_n so_o they_o be_v true_a church_n of_o christ_n accidental_o accident_n in_o respect_n of_o they_o it_o be_v a_o accident_n for_o proper_a diocesan_n and_o provincial_n church_n be_v not_o in_o the_o n._n testam_fw-la have_v in_o they_o by_o accident_n the_o true_a essential_a form_n of_o christ_n visible_a church_n see_v also_o this_o form_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o constitution_n &_o form_n of_o the_o other_o as_o †_o heretofore_o i_o note_v 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iniuriae_fw-la &_o ignominâ_fw-la arroget_fw-la it_o shall_v not_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o any_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n or_o elder_n to_o arrogat_fw-la so_o much_o to_o themselves_o with_o the_o church_n damage_n injury_n and_o shame_n where_o he_o profess_v that_o this_o be_v the_o church_n â—s_v damage_n injury_n &_o shame_n if_o be_v understanding_n christian_n they_o be_v only_o present_a at_o the_o choose_v and_o ordain_v of_o their_o minister_n if_o they_o do_v not_o also_o themselves_o choose_v or_o at_o least_o free_o &_o express_o consent_v to_o the_o choose_v and_o ordain_v of_o they_o after_o note_v the_o tyranny_n which_o be_v in_o this_o behalf_n under_o the_o pope_n he_o say_v jam_fw-la de_fw-la populo_fw-la quem_fw-la christus_fw-la redemit_fw-la svo_fw-la sanguine_fw-la &_o ecclesiam_fw-la sibi_fw-la ex_fw-la eo_fw-la compararet_fw-la verbum_fw-la nullum_fw-la now_o of_o the_o people_n there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n who_o christ_n redeem_v with_o his_o blood_n 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that_o it_o come_v from_o divine_a authority_n christ_n so_o before_o he_o call_v it_o god_n judgement_n and_o his_o christ_n what_o can_v be_v more_o full_a and_o absolute_a to_o our_o purpose_n than_o this_o the_o same_o also_o he_o hold_v touch_v the_o people_n power_n in_o church_n censure_n as_o where_o he_o will_v stephan_n bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o write_v 3.14_o write_v epist_n 3.14_o ad_fw-la plebem_fw-la arelate_n consistentem_fw-la to_o the_o people_n at_o arles_n in_o france_n his_o intent_n be_v here_o that_o their_o novatian_n bishop_n martianus_n shall_v be_v remove_v and_o another_o set_v in_o his_o place_n by_o they_o together_o with_o stephan_n help_v and_o elsewhere_o touch_v one_o victor_n a_o presbyter_n fall_v from_o the_o church_n &_o return_v again_o cyprian_a great_o mislike_v &_o rebuke_v therapius_n the_o bishop_n for_o receive_v he_o 3.8_o he_o 3.8_o sine_fw-la petitu_fw-la &_o conscientia_fw-la plebis_fw-la without_o the_o desire_n &_o knowledge_n of_o 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beside_o yea_o indeed_o he_o do_v nothing_o else_o throughont_v his_o whole_a defence_n wherefore_o even_o this_o which_o here_o be_v speak_v be_v enough_o for_o a_o just_a confutation_n of_o his_o say_a whole_a defence_n the_o very_a like_o deal_v doctor_n bilson_n use_v also_o in_o his_o perpetual_a government_n chap_v 12.13.14_o where_o he_o deal_v about_o bishop_n and_o diocese_n out_o of_o the_o father_n chief_o in_o pag._n 260._o where_o he_o set_v down_o 4._o rank_n of_o bishop_n which_o i_o deny_v not_o be_v in_o those_o four_o chief_a church_n there_o name_v viz._n jerusalem_n antioch_n rome_n alexandria_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v touch_v his_o purpose_n these_o be_v so_o many_o catalogue_n of_o equivocation_n and_o change_n of_o the_o question_n for_o neither_o be_v those_o bishop_n all_o of_o one_o kind_n and_o power_n neither_o be_v any_o of_o they_o of_o that_o kind_n and_o power_n as_o we_o now_o in_o england_n be_v for_o who_o allowance_n and_o approbation_n they_o be_v 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himself_o who_o press_v hardly_o against_o we_o that_o which_o he_o deny_v to_o the_o papist_n be_v god_n a_o accepter_n of_o person_n be_v it_o ill_a for_o papist_n to_o plead_v universal_a consent_n and_o yet_o must_v we_o content_v ourselves_o with_o it_o &_o rest_n thereon_o shall_v he_o say_v to_o we_o 223.235_o we_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 223.235_o be_v not_o the_o whole_a church_n a_o lawful_a and_o sufficient_a witness_n in_o that_o case_n and_o that_o it_o be_v enough_o 228._o enough_o pag._n 228._o if_o any_o christian_n person_n deserve_v to_o be_v credit_v and_o yet_o shall_v he_o say_v to_o papist_n 38â—_n papist_n lib._n 4_o 38â—_n it_o be_v alike_o haereticall_a to_o believe_v without_o scripture_n aâ—_n to_o believe_v against_o scripture_n yea_o even_o to_o ourselves_o when_o he_o listen_v he_o can_v say_v 286._o say_v perp._n gov_n pag._n 286._o make_v we_o good_a proof_n out_o of_o scripture_n or_o leave_v tie_v god_n ordinance_n to_o your_o appetite_n wherefore_o we_o 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be_v his_o error_n as_o where_o he_o say_v 118._o say_v august_n epist_n 118._o si_fw-la quid_fw-la tota_fw-la hodiè_fw-la per_fw-la orbem_fw-la frequentat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la hoc_fw-la quin_fw-la ita_fw-la faciendum_fw-la sit_fw-la disputare_fw-la insolentissimae_fw-la insaniae_fw-la est_fw-la if_o the_o whole_a church_n through_o out_o the_o world_n at_o this_o day_n observe_v any_o thing_n it_o be_v insolent_a madness_n to_o reason_n against_o it_o certain_o there_o have_v be_v and_o may_v be_v be_v be_v as_o sometime_o polygamy_n be_v catholic_a error_n which_o yet_o questionless_a may_v be_v yea_o ought_v to_o be_v reprove_v by_o all_o they_o that_o understand_v they_o well_o but_o have_v our_o adversary_n a_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n at_o any_o time_n alas_o they_o be_v far_o from_o it_o neither_o d._n bilson_n nor_o d._n downame_n nor_o they_o all_o have_v allege_v neither_o can_v they_o allege_v half_o a_o quarter_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n at_o 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down_n 2.106_o down_n def._n 2.106_o boast_v much_o that_o ignatius_n call_v himself_o rom._n himself_o ignat._n epâ—ad_v rom._n bishop_n of_o syria_n why_o what_o then_o ignatius_n here_o show_v his_o nation_n not_o the_o extent_n of_o his_o bishopric_n he_o show_v he_o be_v a_o bishop_n of_o syria_n or_o a_o syrian_a bishop_n &_o not_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o syria_n likewise_o to_o the_o magnes_fw-la the_o ad_fw-la magnes_fw-la magnesian_o that_o his_o church_n be_v a_o most_o famous_a &_o notable_a church_n in_o syria_n not_o the_o only_a church_n there_o much_o less_o extend_v over_o all_o syria_n neither_o be_v philip_n archbishop_n of_o crete_n as_o the_o doctor_n 2.125_o doctor_n defence_n 4.8_o and_o 2.125_o will_v make_v he_o seem_v by_o pervert_v and_o abuse_v eusebius_n again_o for_o his_o word_n â—3_n word_n euse_n â—_o â—3_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d their_o bishop_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o church_n of_o gortyna_n mention_v a_o little_a before_o not_o to_o 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def._n 4.9_o candie_n that_o be_v of_o all_o crete_n as_o he_o mean_v in_o deed_n eusebius_n say_v that_o this_o pinytus_n be_v 4.21_o be_v euseb_n 4.21_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bishop_n of_o they_o in_o crete_n but_o all_o man_n understand_v that_o he_o mean_v here_o to_o show_v but_o his_o nation_n not_o the_o extent_n of_o his_o bishopric_n for_o eusebius_n declaresh_a 23._o declaresh_a cap._n 23._o after_o that_o pinytus_n be_v gnossitaâ—â—_n paraciae_fw-la episcopus_fw-la the_o bishop_n of_o the_o parish_n in_o gnossi_n which_o certain_o be_v not_o over_o all_o crete_n neither_o be_v gnosis_n the_o mother_n city_n of_o crete_n that_o which_o the_o doctor_n 2.93.100_o doctor_n def._n 2.93.100_o presume_v of_o evaristus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o there_o constitute_v a_o diocesan_n church_n and_o divide_a parish_n i_o have_v answer_v it_o 94._o it_o pag._n 93._o 94._o before_o his_o testimony_n out_o of_o tertullian_n cornelius_n of_o rome_n and_o cyprian_a for_o a_o diocesan_n church_n prove_v nothing_o touch_v the_o 2.97.98_o the_o def._n 2.97.98_o first_o tertullian_n say_v not_o that_o in_o rome_n or_o in_o any_o city_n then_o the_o christian_n be_v divide_v into_o many_o set_n constant_a and_o certain_a company_n tertallian_n tertallian_n and_o so_o have_v divers_a such_o ordinary_a assembly_n tertullian_n say_v no_o such_o matter_n which_o yet_o be_v the_o point_n indeed_o like_o a_o rhetorician_n he_o amplifi_v the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n and_o christianlie_n affect_v in_o his_o day_n and_o that_o be_v all_o that_o he_o do_v apol_n 37._o and_o ad_fw-la scapul_n they_o be_v in_o truth_n rhetorical_a amplification_n yet_o i_o say_v empire_n in_o the_o roman_a empire_n he_o comprehend_v in_o these_o great_a number_n all_o christianly_o affect_v and_o all_o their_o favourer_n not_o only_o the_o open_a member_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o cootiary_o he_o say_v they_o be_v one_o singular_a coetus_fw-la &_o aggregatio_fw-la def._n 2._o now_o such_o may_v be_v so_o many_o as_o he_o there_o note_v nothing_o of_o all_o this_o we_o deny_v but_o he_o show_v not_o that_o yet_o in_o any_o city_n the_o open_a resolut_a christian_n be_v divide_v into_o divers_a ordinary_a set_v company_n as_o i_o say_v the_o like_a do_v i_o answer_v to_o 9â—_n to_o pag._n 9â—_n that_o of_o the_o very_a great_a and_o innumerable_a people_n under_o cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n they_o be_v so_o many_o that_o no_o man_n among_o they_o know_v the_o first_o number_n of_o they_o and_o so_o i_o suppose_v at_o this_o day_n the_o church_n be_v in_o paris_n in_o rovan_n etc._n etc._n where_o yet_o the_o church_n be_v not_o divide_v into_o several_a constant_a and_o set_v meeting_n but_o all_o belong_v only_o to_o one_o certain_a &_o constant_a assembly_n again_o under_o cornelius_n the_o christian_a people_n be_v not_o so_o many_o but_o one_o trophimus_n a_o presbyter_n draw_v away_o from_o he_o 4.2_o he_o cypr._n epist_n 4.2_o the_o great_a part_n of_o they_o after_o novatian_n &_o repent_v he_o bring_v they_o back_o with_o he_o again_o also_o the_o church_n assemble_v in_o one_o place_n to_o elect_v 4._o elect_v cypr._n epi._n 3.13_o and_o 4._o cornelius_n and_o a_o little_a before_o 6.22_o before_o euseb_n 6.22_o fabianus_n to_o be_v their_o bishop_n wherefore_o they_o be_v not_o absolute_o innumerable_a but_o this_o be_v plain_a and_o it_o can_v not_o be_v disprooved_a that_o yet_o the_o church_n in_o rome_n have_v not_o divers_a set_n constant_a ordinary_a assembly_n nor_o yet_o cyprian_n church_n in_o carthage_n 250._o anno_fw-la 250._o all_o the_o which_o come_v together_o for_o 55.56.57.58_o for_o see_v pag._n 55.56.57.58_o his_o election_n and_o under_o he_o also_o for_o all_o ordinary_a church_n business_n the_o do._n say_v untrue_o of_o he_o that_o 2.40_o that_o def._n 2.40_o he_o be_v bishop_n of_o africa_n nazianzen_n do_v make_v he_o bishop_n hesperiae_fw-la vniversae_fw-la of_o all_o spain_n at_o least_o as_o well_o 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through_o jesus_n christ_n be_v praise_n for_o ever_o and_o ever_o amen_o a_o addition_n that_o the_o abuser_n of_o mai._n beza_n and_o mai._n calvin_n about_o mat._n 18.17_o may_v see_v their_o ill_n do_v i_o think_v good_a to_o set_v down_o here_o some_o more_o of_o their_o testimony_n a_o part_n by_o themselves_o which_o show_v plain_o that_o howsoever_o they_o seem_v sometime_o to_o speak_v not_o so_o wary_o as_o they_o may_v touch_v the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la in_o this_o place_n calling_z it_o the_o church-senat_n or_o presbytery_n yet_o their_o true_a and_o right_a meaning_n indeed_o be_v that_o here_o ecclesia_fw-la signifi_v not_o the_o church_n senat_n only_o &_o mere_o as_o some_o obstinate_o charge_v they_o to_o mean_v they_o do_v here_o in_o this_o word_n comprehend_v also_o the_o people_n and_o their_o power_n of_o free_a consent_n in_o excommunication_n which_o be_v the_o matter_n speak_v of_o by_o christ_n in_o this_o place_n of_o math._n i_o say_v here_o in_o this_o 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