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A62870 Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1652 (1652) Wing T1812; ESTC R27540 101,567 110

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but_o my_o hope_n be_v those_o great_a instrument_n of_o god_n to_o break_v the_o enemy_n of_o those_o that_o be_v term_v sectary_n though_o mr._n bs._n word_n seem_v to_o forebode_v and_o misdeem_v evil_a of_o they_o will_n and_o do_v prove_v better_a than_o he_o discribe_v they_o though_o i_o imagine_v they_o be_v not_o anabaptist_n nor_o do_v i_o like_v mr._n bs._n obscure_a satirical_a crimination_n they_o have_v some_o show_n of_o a_o malevolent_a mind_n whatever_o mr._n b._n may_v conceive_v of_o the_o danger_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n way_n in_o other_o thing_n i_o be_o sure_a if_o they_o will_v keep_v themselves_o only_o to_o this_o to_o be_v baptize_v upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n they_o shall_v be_v in_o a_o safe_a way_n even_o in_o the_o way_n of_o christ._n sect_n xxii_o the_o speech_n that_o no_o one_o country_n be_v gather_v into_o christ_n visible_a church_n contain_v no_o malignancy_n to_o christ_n but_o be_v a_o manifest_a truth_n most_o of_o that_o which_o be_v in_o 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