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A66481 The judgment of the foreign reformed churches concerning the rites and offices of the Church of England shewing there is no necessity of alterations : in a letter to a member of the House of Commons. Willes, John, 1646 or 7-1700. 1690 (1690) Wing W2807; ESTC R8187 45,548 70

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necessity_n of_o they_o and_o particular_o in_o ep._n 24._o reckon_v they_o among_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n that_o bound_v the_o conscience_n and_o epist_n 8._o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o london_n that_o infant_n be_v baptise_a in_o the_o public_a congregation_n with_o a_o set_a form_n of_o prayer_n that_o there_o be_v godfather_n to_o engage_v fortheir_o christian_n education_n etc._n etc._n these_o be_v plain_a and_o honest_a rite_n such_o as_o give_v no_o occasion_n to_o superstition_n and_o who_o be_v there_o that_o dare_v condemn_v they_o in_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n of_o geneva_n sect._n 38._o the_o name_n of_o the_o infant_n and_o godfather_n must_v be_v register_v by_o the_o minister_n this_o be_v heretofore_o enjojn_v by_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n in_o his_o diocese_n and_o i_o have_v see_v some_o register_n in_o that_o diocese_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o injunction_n be_v observe_v for_o some_o time_n sect._n 39_o none_o be_v to_o be_v godfather_n but_o the_o faithful_a and_o those_o of_o our_o confession_n sect._n 40._o they_o that_o be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n must_v not_o be_v godfather_n in_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o france_n chap._n 11._o sect._n 7._o though_o we_o have_v no_o express_a commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n for_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n in_o baptism_n yet_o because_o the_o custom_n be_v ancient_a and_o introduce_v for_o a_o good_a end_n those_o that_o will_v not_o follow_v so_o good_a a_o example_n but_o present_v their_o infant_n themselves_o shall_v be_v earnest_o exhort_v not_o to_o be_v contentious_a but_o to_o behave_v themselves_o according_a to_o this_o ancient_a custom_n which_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a sect._n 12_o the_o minister_n shall_v diligent_o admonish_v the_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n to_o consider_v the_o promise_n they_o have_v make_v at_o the_o celebration_n of_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o this_o agree_v the_o synod_n of_o st._n foy_n a._n d._n 1578._o at_o samue_n 1596._o at_o montpellier_n 1598._o which_o last_n say_v that_o godfather_n be_v oblige_v not_o only_o to_o instruct_v the_o child_n in_o piety_n but_o also_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n to_o provide_v for_o their_o maintenance_n sect._n 18_o the_o name_n of_o the_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n of_o the_o infant_n shall_v be_v register_v which_o last_o thing_n of_o register_n they_o as_o it_o be_v general_o practise_v by_o the_o reform_a church_n abroad_o so_o be_v very_o agreeable_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o particular_o take_v notice_n of_o by_o pseudo_fw-la dionysius_n the_o areopagite_n to_o all_o which_o i_o beg_v leave_n to_o add_v the_o observation_n of_o monsieur_n larroque_n a_o eminent_a minister_n of_o the_o french_a reform_a church_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v conformite_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr discipline_n ecclesiastic_a des_fw-fr protestant_n de_fw-fr france_n avec_fw-fr celle_fw-fr des_fw-fr anciens_fw-fr chietiens_n a._n d._n 1678_o and_o p._n 208._o he_o thus_o write_v l'usage_n des_fw-fr parriens_fw-la etc._n etc._n i._n e._n the_o use_n of_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n to_o present_a child_n in_o baptism_n be_v very_o ancient_a tertullian_n make_v mention_n of_o they_o in_o his_o book_n of_o baptism_n chap._n 18._o st._n austin_n in_o his_o 23d_o epistle_n the_o pretend_a deny_v the_o areopagite_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o be_v of_o apostolic_a institution_n gregory_n the_o one_a in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o sacrament_n caesarius_n of_o arles_n in_o his_o 12_o homily_n the_o sixthcanon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o mets._n a._n d._n 888._o and_o indeed_o the_o subject_n of_o that_o whole_a book_n be_v to_o justify_v their_o discipline_n from_o the_o antiquity_n of_o it_o and_o agreement_n with_o the_o primitive_a church_n i_o therefore_o mention_v this_o because_o argument_n of_o this_o nature_n be_v so_o very_a much_o slight_v by_o our_o own_o 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use_v in_o the_o dutch_a rohemian_a and_o all_o the_o
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be_v use_v by_o the_o papist_n for_o they_o to_o gain_v respect_n to_o their_o own_o church_n endeavour_v to_o persuade_v such_o other_o christian_n as_o be_v admit_v into_o their_o church_n to_o be_v hypothetical_o rebaptise_v of_o which_o we_o have_v one_o famous_a instance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o abyssine_n report_v by_o ludolfus_n in_o hist_n aethiop_n l._n 3._o c._n 6._o patres_fw-la societatis_fw-la habessinos_n omnes_fw-la promiscue_n rebaptizaverunt_fw-la sub_fw-la conditione_n tamen_fw-la si_fw-la videlicet_fw-la prio_fw-la baptismus_fw-la non_fw-la rite_n fuisset_fw-la peractus_fw-la quae_fw-la res_fw-la magnam_fw-la illis_fw-la invidiam_fw-la conflavit_fw-la i._n e._n the_o jesuit_n rebaptise_v all_o the_o habessine_n with_o this_o condition_n namely_o if_o their_o former_a baptism_n be_v not_o right_o perform_v which_o thing_n occasion_v great_a trouble_n against_o they_o which_o trouble_v he_o report_v cap._n 13._o the_o habessine_n hate_v they_o for_o nothing_o 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d._n 1588._o june_n 10_o condemn_a ordination_n by_o bishop_n as_o unlawful_a and_o far_o declare_v the_o very_a call_n of_o bishop_n unlawful_a bancroft'_v engl._n scotize_v p._n 86._o t._n c._n in_o his_o admonition_n p._n 127_o desire_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v lay_v aside_o from_o ordain_v minister_n and_o to_o bring_v in_o the_o true_a election_n by_o the_o congregation_n and_o in_o his_o prayer_n before_o his_o sermon_n at_o banbury_n print_v in_o the_o life_n of_o archbishop_n whitgift_n p._n 47._o o_o lord_n give_v we_o grace_n and_o power_n all_o as_o one_o man_n to_o set_v ourselves_o against_o the_o bishop_n apologetical_a narrative_n it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o take_v episcopal_a order_n or_o to_o own_o the_o authority_n of_o bishop_n and_o to_o mention_v no_o more_o in_o the_o solemn_a league_n and_o covenant_n the_o presbyterian_o of_o both_o nation_n swear_v to_o the_o extirpation_n of_o prelacy_n i._n e._n the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o bishop_n and_o 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eccl._n l._n 1._o comenius_n in_o annot._n ad_fw-la rat_n disc_fw-la fratr_n bohem._n where_o he_o observe_v that_o st._n hierom_n call_v a_o bishop_n superintendant_n in_o armenia_n the_o bishop_n be_v call_v martabet_n which_o signify_v superintendant_n say_v rycaut_n hist_n of_o arm._n church_n p._n 392._o and_o zanchy_a say_v that_o the_o protestant_n have_v bishop_n and_o archbishop_n but_o that_o instead_o of_o good_a greek_a name_n they_o call_v they_o by_o bad_a latin_a one_o superintendant_o and_o general_a superintendant_o and_o when_o in_o the_o book_n of_o policy_n a._n d._n 1581._o for_o the_o kingdom_n of_o scotland_n the_o office_n of_o superintendant_o be_v describe_v it_o be_v in_o these_o word_n imprimis_fw-la the_o superintendant_n of_o orkney_n his_o diocese_n shall_v be_v the_o isle_n of_o orkney_n etc._n etc._n the_o superintendant_n of_o rosse_n his_o diocese_n shall_v be_v rosse_n etc._n etc._n the_o superintendant_n of_o edenbrough_n his_o diocese_n shall_v 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and_o of_o person_n of_o better_a quality_n and_o education_n not_o a_o thirteen_o in_o all_o the_o country_n on_o