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A87881 The observator observed, or, Animadversions upon observations on the history of King Charles wherein that history is vindicated, partly illustrated, and severall other things tending to the rectification of some publique mistakes, are inserted : to which is added, at the latter end, the observators rejoinder. L'Estrange, Hamon, 1605-1660. 1656 (1656) Wing L1188A; ESTC R179464 41,478 51

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but in love that is keeping the unity of the spirit in the bond of Peace This unity of love must be preserved even where there is not an unity of faith in things not fundamental which I take not one of those controversies to be and if they be not so it is a most sad thing for the Church of God to be torn and rent in the entire cloth with diversities of such opinions whose truths will neither carry us to Heaven nor errours to hell what the uncharitable animosities on both sides may produce I tremble to think It was St. Augustines opinion and I wish it entertain'd by our whole Church in such Polemick questions as these Laudandi sunt qui pro bono veritatis tolerant quod bono veritatis oderunt they are to be commended who for Christian verities sake patiently endure what they would else dislike for the avail of Truth To proceed Page 70. Fol. 96. For Arminianism informations were very pregnant that notwithstanding the Resolution of the Archbishop of Canterbury and other Reverend Bishops and Divines assembled Anno. 1595. c. Observator Why man the Articles of Lambeth were never looked upon as the Doctrine of the Church of England nor intended to be so looked upon by them that made them Answer Why Man who said they were not I it was Mr. Pym and the Committee for Religion said so I do but recite what that Committee declared as the product of their inquiries and with this answer legible enough to any who can read I might easily avoyd no lesse then 25 pages of the Observator So that I might justly have this Man in the Moon like Mithridates his soldiers sighting by Moon-shine with his own shaddow Had he not scattered my particulars in my way which detain me First Stating the occasion of making the Lambeth Articles he saith page 74. That the Compilers of the book of Articles and the book of Homiles the publique Monuments of our Church in point of Doctrine differ'd from Calvines since in the point of Predestination and its subordinates Answer This is very probable for it is very rare for two ever of the same party to agree exactly in all parcels of these controversies But if they did in some things vary in opinion I am still to demand Quorsum hoc what then Secondly Page 74. He saith of Petrus Baro at the end of his three first years he relinquished the Professorship and retired not long after into France Answer Three errours in not full so many lines First Petrus Baro relinquisht not his Professorship at the end of his first three years He was Professor Anno. 1574. his Lectures upon Jonas tells us so And the Observator will have him Professor about the time of the Lambeth Articles which were in 1595. So then he relinquisht his place not at the end of his first three years Secondly his first three years are manifestly mistaken for two For by the Statutes of the Lady Margaret Foundresse of that Professorship every Professor is eligible at the expiration of two not of three years The precise words are Et volumus insuper quod de caetero quolibet Bienmio ultimo die cessationis cujuslibet termini ante magnam vacationem universitatis praedictae una habilis apta idonea persona in lectorem lecturae praedictae pro uno Biennio integro viz. a festo nativitatis B. Mariae Virginis tunc proximè sequente duntaxat duraturo eligatur Fol. 105. in nigro codice This I thought fit to insert for the information of very many of a contrary belief Thirdly Peter Baron never went or retired into France after the Resignation of his Professorship but went up to London to Crutched Friers there he lived there he dyed and was buried in St. Olaves Church at whose Interrment the Bishop of London Ordered all the most eminent Divines Ministers in that City to be present Of this I hope I am credibly informed from his own Son still alive Thirdly the Observator laboureth to discredit the Articles of Lambeth by telling us a story perhaps a tale of the Queen the Lord Burly and Archbishop Whi●gift in reference to those Articles To which I answer first This story was never heard of till the year and the reputed father thereof is one Aurelius not Aurelius Augustinus nor Petrus Aurelius to be sure a Kentish-man who was unborn when those Articles were framed Secondly admit his relation true that Assembly was neither the first nor the Greatest that have incurr'd a Praemunire Fol. 96. By the prevalency of the Bishops of London and Winchester the Orthodox party were depressed and the truth they served was scarce able to protect them to impunity Observator A very heavy charge which hath no truth in it for I am very confident that neither of these Bishops did ever draw any man within the danger of punishment in relation only to their Tenets in the present Controversies if they managed them with that prudence and moderation which became men studiously addicted to the Gospel of Peace Answer I fear then the fault will be in their Prudence for that some were snibb'd for matters of like nature restrained from speaking their consciences the same journals relate Sir Daniel Norton and Sir Robert Phillips informing the House the one of Dr. Moor the other of Dr. Marshall who both testify'd they were chid by that B. of Winchester for preaching against Popery and commanded to do so no more Page 80. Ibid. By the uncontrouled Preaching of several points tending and warping towards Popery by Mountague Goodman Cozens and others Observator How again our Author is I think mistaken for neither Mountague nor Cozens were questioned for preaching any thing warping towards Popery c. Answer All the error the Observator can here pick out is in the word Preaching which I confess should have been Publishing though both are sometime of the same never of a much differing import And though I shall agree with the Observator that in Dr. Cozens his Horary there is no direct Popery yet might it raise jealousies of his tendency that way considering the time wherein he published it But seeing that Doctor hath appeared of late a stout advocate for the Reformed Church as I was first informed by my Reverend friend Mr. Lionel Gatford and am now further assured by others I wish all men would indulge him a favourable construction of that his right-hand Error Charity to himself as Christian and to the unity of this distracted Church requires no less Page 85. Observator That Adoration towards the Altar or Eastern part of the Church was generally used by the best and most religious Christians in the Primitive Times Our Author if he be the man he is said to be being well versed in the Monuments of most pure Antiquity cannot chuse but know Answer Because the Observator appeals here to my knowledg though I boast not of any great knowledge of or acquaintance with the
how that hope hath failed me shall be my next enquiry The total of my lapses and slips amount to eight no more if I have faithfully collected them as I hope I have and did really so intend but lest one or two should be casually omitted I allow them to be 10. And being so I appeal to thy ingenuous candor gentle Reader first whether in describing of at least a thousand circumstances it be not a greater miracle that I mistook in but 10 then that I erred so many Secondly whether 10. errors in such circumstances wherein the fame of no one man the interest of no one cause is either damnify'd or advantaged be ground sufficient for so much clamour so loud outcry as would gladly raise the Country yea the whole Nation against me Lastly whether it would not have represented the Observator to be a man of more Christian yea Moral Principles had he vivâ voce by conference or by letters hinted to me these mistakes as fit considerations for a second impression Indeed the last is needlesse he having so fair and frequent opport unities of doing the first True it is acquaintance there is none between us if acquaintance be taken for familiarity but acquainted with my person he is and I with his so well as he knows me perfectly without a Nomenclator How can it be otherwise conjectured when the truth is we have met in London at the same shop I may safely say neer an hundred times and to speak more close to the point not lesse then ten times not only after the publication of my History but after he had to my knowledge perused it and before he had entred one line of his Observations into the Presse All which do evidently declare that it was not my information but a dear and precious quarrel he desired Having given you this particular of mine own failings I proceed to those of the Observator himself which I have not only said but proved to be Errours Page 64. Denying the paper found in Feltons hat Page 7. Concerning Peter Baro and the Margarets Professorship 3. Page 86. Saying Standing at Gloria Patri was never obtruded Page 114. Concerning the Sabbath 2. Page 122. Concerning the setting forth of the Ships 2. Page 176. Sir Edward Dering for the Lord Digby Page 215. Archbishop of Canterbury voted an Incendiary Decemb. the 16th for the 17. Page 238 Concerning the taking of the Protestation Page 240. Concerning the Bishops sent to the King the Primate and the Irish Articles 6. The total whereof is 18. in 17 printed sheets almost two for one escaped from me in 70. which yet were dispensable in any man were they but circumstantiall as mine but when one of them tends to the very destruction of sacred worship as that of the Sabbath and another to the defamation of one of the most glorious Lights of our Church These are unpardonable faults were not both the snfferers thereby above his obloquy In this Catalogue I have forborn such mistakes as relate imediately to my self I have not minded him of his most notorous corrupting and falsifying my Preface nor of his wilfull mistaking other words for mine which cost him a sixth part of his Pamphlet nor yet his detorting wrestling mine owne words to his fancy against their naturall mind and inclination Things counter to the ingenuity he so pretends to in his Epistle made to me to the ancient mode of simplicity to which I wish he would conform hereafter Therefore gentle Reader when thou seest him next after my hearty commendations present him from me with his Distich again a little vary'd Vse thou old vertues I shall forbear New words not fitted to the ear Addenda to the Observator Observed PAge 6. l. 8. After the end of the Paragraph But if any demand what made King James so stout an adversary of the Arminians the Observator hath an answer ready minted an exceeding good one I assure you and for which the Arminians have reason to thank him Reason of State he saith it was and King-Craft how so because the Arminians were united into a party under the command and countenance of Olden-Barnevelt and by him used to undermine the power of Maurice then Prince of Orange so then by the Observators own inference Reason of State and King-Craft will not tolerate the Arminians in a Commonwealth and if so they well deserved the name of a Faction as he page 73. most aptly stileth them as men having as strong a tang of the Jesuites in Practical as Dogmatical concernments and indeed a Faction a turbulent seditious Faction the united Provinces found them all along from the first of their spawning there more especially in that wicked conspiracy of Barnevelt who suffered most condignly upon that very account 1619 and in no less damnable and hellish plot about three years after wherein the States sitting in Councel at the Hague and after them all other anti-Arminian Magistrates were destined to slaughter but this plot aborting and miscarrying the next was to murder the Prince of Orange to seise upon the Magazines to displace all Officers both martial and civil and commit an horrid Massacre upon all of different belief all which was by a blessed providence discovered and prevented four of the principal conspirators hanged and the rest some imprison'd others banisht This was the deportment of the Observators Faction in the Netherlands an argument they are none of the best Subjects be their Doctrine as Orthodox as they pretend Page 10. l. Penult At this mark But seeing the Observator so disliketh this impulsive of Irregularity I will take it again by exchange afford him another for it which though not so publiquely declared yet was by knowing men in those affairs beheld as the real and genuine cause of this Commission and that was the Archbishops refusal to license Dr. Sibthorp's Book But be the impulsive to it what it will sure I am Sr. Henry Martin told the Bishops they would incur a praemunire did they act by this Commission and that Legally the Commission which should impower them ought to proceed from the Archbishop not from the King to whose advice the Bishops did so far listen as they superseded and forbore to act untill a while after they obtained leave and Commission from the Archbishop FINIS A Catalogue of some Books Printed for and sold by Edw. Dod at the Gun in Ivie-Lane AN entire Commentary upon the whole Old Testament in 4. Vol. in Fol. wherein the diverse Translations and Expositions literal and mystical of all the most famous Commentators both Ancient and Modern are propounded examined and judged of for the more full satisfaction of the studious Reader in all things which compleateth the Authors Commet on the whole Bible a Work the like to which hath never yet been published in English by any man written by John Mayer Doctor in Divinty The Expiation of a Sinner in a Commentary on the Epistle to the Hebrews Fol. by T. L. D. D. a learned and Reverend Divine The Justification of a sinner being the main argument of S. Pauls Epistle to the Galathians Fol. Written by the Author of the Expiation of a sinner Thomae Loshintonii Logica analytica de principiis Regulis usu Rationis Recta 8. The Angel Guardian proved by the light of Nature beams of Scripture and consent of many Ancient and Modern Writers untainted with Popery by Robert Dingley Master of Arts late Fellow of Magdalen Colledge in Oxford 8. America or an exact description of the West-Indies especially of those Provinces under the dominion of Spain in which not only the Nature and Climate of the place with the Commodities it affordeth is fully described but also plain and full directions given for the right ordering of the same so as to fit them for the use of the Inhabitants and also for transportation the like never yet published in English faithfully related by N. N. Gent. in 8. Natures Paradox or the Innocent Impostor a pleasant 〈◊〉 Hystory translated out of French into English by Major John Wright 4. Poems Songs and Sonets written by Richard Lovelace Esq 8. The Life and death of Mr. Carter with other Tracts written by his son Mr. John Carter Minister of Gods Word in the City of Norwich 8. Directions for writing of true English by Richard Hodges in 8. The Reign of King Charles faithfully and impartially delivered and disposed into Annals by H. L. Esq Fol. Judgement and Mercy or the plague of Frogs inflicted removed delivered in nine Sermons by that late Reverend and Learned Divine Mr. Josias Shute 4. The Safe way to Glory in several Exercises of General use By William Smith Mr. Ar. R. of Cotton in Suff. See the Additions * See the Additions Ephes. 4. 15. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Augustine Epist. 162. Epist. 200. Asellio Chrysost. in Isai. Hom. 2. Catechist Doct. p. 259. Page 245. Adv. Pelagian l. 1. Ad Ruffin Patercl l. 2. Elenchus Mat. Autidot Lincoln Edit. 2. p. 157.