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A80608 The bloudy tenent, washed, and made white in the bloud of the Lambe: being discussed and discharged of bloud-guiltinesse by just defence. Wherein the great questions of this present time are handled, viz. how farre liberty of conscience ought to be given to those that truly feare God? And how farre restrained to turbulent and pestilent persons, that not onely raze the foundation of godlinesse, but disturb the civill peace where they live? Also how farre the magistrate may proceed in the duties of the first table? And that all magistrates ought to study the word and will of God, that they may frame their government according to it. Discussed. As they are alledged from divers Scriptures, out of the Old and New Testament. Wherein also the practise of princes is debated, together with the judgement of ancient and late writers of most precious esteeme. Whereunto is added a reply to Mr. Williams answer, to Mr. Cottons letter. / By John Cotton Batchelor in Divinity, and teacher of the church of Christ at Boston in New England. Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1647 (1647) Wing C6409; Thomason E387_7; ESTC R836 257,083 342

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my_o answer_n and_o that_o so_o perplex_o that_o it_o can_v be_v wind_v up_o out_o of_o my_o answer_n without_o break_v the_o thread_n both_o of_o my_o word_n and_o meaning_n it_o be_v a_o plain_a and_o certain_a truth_n that_o as_o the_o disciple_n be_v not_o civil_a magistrate_n so_o neither_o do_v christ_n speak_v to_o they_o in_o this_o reproof_n as_o to_o such_o but_o it_o be_v far_o from_o i_o to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o inflict_v corporal_a punishment_n upon_o man_n contrary_a mind_v stand_v in_o the_o same_o state_n the_o samaritan_n do_v no_o such_o thought_n arise_v in_o my_o heart_n nor_o fall_v from_o my_o pen_n either_o in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o letter_n or_o in_o any_o write_n of_o i_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n though_o he_o have_v dominion_n over_o pagan_n much_o less_o if_o he_o have_v none_o to_o inflict_v corporal_a punishment_n upon_o such_o as_o be_v contrary_a mind_v in_o matter_n of_o 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of_o it_o as_o a_o great_a wonder_n that_o the_o beast_n shall_v make_v fire_n to_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n upon_o earth_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o man_n ver_fw-la 13._o but_o this_o be_v no_o wonder_n to_o cause_v civil_a power_n to_o inflict_v fiery_a judgement_n of_o imprisonment_n banishment_n death_n upon_o heretic_n for_o constantine_n have_v do_v as_o much_o before_o and_o the_o arrian_n bishop_n have_v cause_v constantius_n to_o do_v as_o much_o against_o the_o orthodox_n saint_n beside_o in_o the_o context_n ver_fw-la 15._o it_o be_v express_o there_o declare_v as_o a_o distinct_a matter_n from_o the_o former_a that_o he_o have_v power_n to_o cause_n that_o as_o many_o as_o will_v not_o worship_v the_o image_n of_o the_o beast_n shall_v he_o kill_v this_o be_v a_o different_a effect_n and_o record_v as_o different_a from_o the_o former_a of_o cause_v fire_n to_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n and_o that_o not_o upon_o the_o saint_n but_o upon_o earth_n chap._n 38._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 38._o discuss_v the_o place_n in_o timothy_n 2_o tim._n 2.25_o 26._o discusser_n i_o acknowledge_v this_o instruction_n to_o be_v meek_a and_o patient_a to_o all_o man_n etc._n etc._n be_v proper_o a_o instruction_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n defender_n then_o hitherto_o the_o answer_n be_v not_o perplex_v and_o ravel_v discusser_n yet_o divers_a argument_n will_v from_o hence_o be_v true_o and_o fair_o collect_v to_o manifest_v and_o evince_n how_o far_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n ought_v to_o be_v from_o deal_v with_o the_o civil_a sword_n in_o spiritual_a case_n but_o first_o by_o the_o way_n i_o desire_v to_o ask_v what_o the_o answerer_n mean_v by_o his_o unconverted_a christian_n in_o crete_n a_o unconverted_a christian_a be_v as_o much_o as_o a_o unconverted_a convert_n untamed_a
under_o they_o but_o they_o all_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o life_n of_o god_n yea_o most_o averse_a and_o opposite_a yea_o cruel_a and_o bloody_a persecutor_n of_o the_o name_n and_o follower_n of_o jesus_n and_o yet_o unto_o these_o be_v subjection_n command_v now_o than_o i_o argue_v if_o paul_n have_v command_v this_o subjection_n to_o roman_a magistrate_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n to_o defend_v the_o truth_n to_o punish_v heretic_n neither_o of_o which_o they_o can_v discern_v nor_o judge_v of_o but_o by_o trust_n from_o other_o as_o pilate_n condemn_v jesus_n he_o must_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n have_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o defender_n not_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n for_o beside_o calvin_n and_o beza_n who_o judgement_n you_o have_v hear_v all_o those_o interpreter_n who_o expound_v this_o place_n in_o the_o roman_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o punish_v spiritual_a evil_a doer_n as_o well_o as_o corporal_a they_o none_o of_o they_o do_v so_o judge_v that_o paul_n in_o command_v the_o church_n to_o yield_v subjection_n unto_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n do_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o for_o first_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o yield_v subjection_n to_o the_o unrighteous_a decree_n of_o ignorant_a and_o pagan_a magistrate_n another_o thing_n to_o obey_v their_o ordinance_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o worship_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n the_o former_a of_o these_o christian_n do_v yield_v unto_o the_o roman_a magistrate_n even_o subjection_n unto_o the_o death_n the_o other_o they_o neither_o do_v nor_o aught_o to_o yield_v as_o know_v god_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v rather_o than_o man_n second_o though_o it_o be_v true_a whilst_o the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o magistrate_n be_v pagan_n and_o persecutor_n they_o be_v incompetent_a judge_n to_o discern_v and_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o spiritual_a matter_n of_o christian_a religion_n yet_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n who_o command_v a_o duty_n command_v all_o the_o necessary_a mean_n which_o tend_v to_o that_o duty_n and_o therefore_o in_o give_v they_o a_o power_n and_o charge_n to_o execute_v vengeance_n on_o evil_a doer_n and_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o spiritual_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o church_n as_o in_o matter_n of_o civil_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o commonwealth_n it_o behove_v they_o to_o inquire_v and_o listen_v after_o true_a religion_n to_o hear_v and_o try_v all_o and_o upon_o serious_a deliberate_a and_o just_a scrute_v to_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o so_o prevent_v the_o disturbance_n thereof_o by_o the_o contrary_n it_o be_v no_o vain_a charge_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n psal_n 2_o 10_o 11_o 12._o if_o christ_n have_v a_o iron_n sceptre_n in_o his_o hand_n to_o crush_v all_o state_n and_o kingdom_n emperor_n and_o prince_n as_o well_o as_o private_a person_n be_v wise_a now_o therefore_o o_o you_o king_n be_v instruct_v you_o that_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o earth_n serve_v the_o lord_n with_o fear_n rejoice_v unto_o he_o with_o tremble_v kiss_v the_o son_n lest_o he_o be_v angry_a and_o you_o perish_v in_o the_o way_n three_o the_o case_n of_o religion_n wherein_o we_o allow_v civil_a magistrate_n to_o be_v judge_n be_v so_o fundamental_a and_o palpable_a that_o no_o magistrate_n studious_a of_o religion_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n but_o if_o he_o have_v any_o spiritual_a discern_a as_o all_o true_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v and_o even_o pagan_n have_v discern_v between_o innocent_a christian_n and_o turbulent_a seducer_n he_o can_v but_o judge_v of_o such_o gross_a corruption_n as_o be_v unsufferable_a in_o religion_n as_o have_v be_v open_v above_o though_o we_o reserve_v to_o the_o prophet_n and_o church_n judicium_fw-la propheticum_fw-la as_o have_v be_v say_v above_o yet_o we_o allow_v judicium_fw-la politicum_fw-la to_o civil_a magistrate_n studious_a of_o truth_n as_o all_o aught_o to_o be_v and_o the_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n unto_o all_o christian_n but_o as_o for_o such_o magigistrate_n as_o be_v mere_o natural_a and_o pagan_a though_o christian_n be_v bind_v to_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o they_o with_o patience_n yet_o such_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o forbear_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n either_o in_o protect_v or_o punish_v matter_n of_o religion_n till_o they_o have_v learn_v so_o much_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n as_o may_v enable_v they_o to_o discern_v of_o thing_n that_o differ_v but_o this_o forbearance_n of_o they_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n in_o their_o calling_n nor_o for_o want_v of_o duty_n in_o their_o conscience_n but_o for_o want_v of_o evidence_n to_o they_o in_o the_o cause_n in_o which_o case_n magistrate_n be_v wont_a to_o forbear_v their_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n and_o to_o respite_n judgement_n even_o in_o civil_a cause_n not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n or_o duty_n to_o do_v justice_n but_o for_o want_v of_o ripe_a and_o full_a cognizance_n of_o the_o cause_n chap._n 49._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 49._o discusser_n why_o then_o do_v paul_n himself_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n act_n 25._o unless_o that_o caesar_n though_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o yet_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v a_o fit_a judge_n in_o such_o matter_n answ_n paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n not_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o his_o religion_n but_o to_o defend_v he_o from_o civil_a violence_n and_o slanderous_a accusation_n about_o sedition_n mutiny_n civil_a disobedience_n etc._n etc._n from_o which_o caesar_n as_o a_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n ought_v to_o defend_v he_o defender_n this_o appeal_n of_o paul_n to_o caesar_n do_v evident_o hold_v forth_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a and_o needful_a use_n of_o civil_a magistracy_n unto_o christian_n 2._o that_o church_n officer_n even_o of_o high_a rank_n the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o other_o minister_n be_v subject_a to_o civil_a authority_n as_o well_o as_o private_a christian_n 3._o that_o paul_n do_v submit_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seate_n the_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n as_o well_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n as_o in_o civil_a conversation_n for_o he_o plead_v his_o innocency_n that_o he_o be_v guilty_a in_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o and_o for_o trial_n hereof_o he_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 11._o now_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o be_v offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n as_o well_o as_o against_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 8._o and_o offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n be_v matter_n of_o religion_n and_o yet_o even_o in_o these_o paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seat_n for_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n discusser_n but_o if_o paul_n in_o this_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n have_v submit_v his_o religion_n which_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o christ_n his_o ministry_n and_o ministration_n to_o the_o roman_a emperor_n tribunal_n he_o have_v sin_v first_o against_o the_o light_n of_o reason_n second_o against_o the_o cause_n of_o religion_n three_o against_o the_o holy_a call_v of_o a_o christian_n four_o against_o his_o own_o call_n of_o apostleship_n five_o against_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n defender_n all_o these_o sin_n may_v with_o some_o colour_n have_v be_v charge_v upon_o paul_n if_o he_o have_v appeal_v to_o caesar_n to_o judge_n whether_o his_o religion_n or_o ministry_n or_o ministration_n be_v of_o god_n or_o no._n but_o that_o be_v no_o point_n of_o his_o appeal_v but_o whether_o his_o religion_n or_o ministry_n or_o ministration_n be_v guilty_a of_o any_o capital_a crime_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n or_o against_o the_o temple_n or_o against_o caesar_n now_o in_o this_o case_n paul_n may_v safe_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n and_o that_o to_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n of_o his_o apostolic_a and_o christian_a call_v and_o to_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o religion_n the_o reason_n against_o paul_n appeal_v in_o this_o case_n be_v but_o bul-rush_n chap._n 50._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 50._o discusser_n have_v dispatch_v two_o argument_n against_o the_o sound_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n power_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n in_o rom._n 13._o first_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o calvin_n and_o beza_n the_o second_o from_o caesar_n incompetency_n and_o insufficiency_n to_o judge_n of_o spiritual_a matter_n i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o magistrate_n weapon_n he_o have_v a_o sword_n and_o that_o sword_n be_v a_o civil_a sword_n a_o sword_n of_o civil_a justice_n which_o be_v of_o a_o material_a and_o civil_a nature_n serve_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o person_n estate_n family_n liberty_n of_o
be_v it_o not_o also_o needful_a that_o the_o lord_n of_o the_o soil_n who_o have_v his_o officer_n both_o to_o dress_v his_o garden_n &_o to_o keep_v his_o wilderness_n shall_v provide_v that_o the_o keeper_n of_o his_o wilderness_n shall_v suffer_v no_o venomous_a weed_n to_o grow_v near_o his_o garden_n hedge_n or_o pale_a lest_o the_o seed_n thereof_o shall_v annoy_v his_o garden_n and_o poison_v those_o within_o the_o garden_n that_o feed_v on_o they_o it_o be_v true_a which_o the_o discusser_n say_v poison_n will_v not_o hurt_v the_o body_n unless_o it_o be_v take_v or_o touch_v yea_o and_o antidote_n take_v against_o it_o but_o who_o shall_v prevent_v the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n from_o touch_v or_o take_v poison_n or_o who_o shall_v provide_v that_o all_o the_o member_n shall_v take_v the_o antidote_n which_o be_v prepare_v for_o they_o here_o will_v be_v needful_a the_o faithful_a vigilancy_n of_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n to_o assist_v the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o lord_n work_v the_o one_o to_o lay_v in_o antidote_n to_o prevent_v infection_n the_o other_o to_o weed_n out_o infectious_a noisome_a weed_n which_o the_o sheep_n of_o christ_n will_v be_v touch_v and_o take_v when_o they_o will_v sometime_o neglect_v their_o antidote_n it_o be_v a_o very_a unlikely_a thing_n which_o the_o discusser_n say_v be_v most_o likely_a that_o tertullian_n mean_v one_o of_o these_o two_o case_n for_o doubtless_o his_o meaning_n be_v to_o plead_v for_o the_o innocency_n and_o impunity_n of_o his_o own_o religion_n which_o be_v indeed_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o he_o may_v safe_o plead_v that_o if_o the_o pagan_a religion_n do_v not_o hurt_v their_o civil_a government_n as_o the_o roman_a governor_n doubt_v not_o of_o that_o he_o bid_v they_o to_o be_v secure_a of_o the_o christian_a religion_n it_o will_v never_o hurt_v they_o at_o all_o when_o therefore_o he_o speak_v of_o religion_n indefinite_o that_o one_o man_n religion_n will_v not_o hurt_v another_o it_o be_v argumentum_fw-la ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la let_v not_o scapula_n suspect_v hurt_v from_o christian_a religion_n to_o the_o roman_a state_n if_o the_o roman_a religion_n be_v the_o preservation_n of_o the_o roman_a empire_n as_o scapula_n think_v christian_n religion_n though_o tolerate_v yea_o though_o receive_v and_o advance_v will_v never_o be_v their_o destruction_n nor_o disturbance_n chap._n 68_o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 71._o discuss_v the_o testimony_n of_o jerome_n discusser_n i_o erome_n say_v the_o answerer_n confess_v not_o the_o truth_n nor_o advantage_v your_o cause_n for_o we_o grant_v what_o he_o say_v that_o heresy_n must_v be_v cut_v off_o by_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n which_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o this_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o be_v so_o cut_v down_o if_o the_o heretic_n do_v still_o persist_v in_o his_o heresy_n to_o the_o seduction_n of_o other_o he_o may_v be_v cut_v off_o also_o by_o the_o civil_a sword_n to_o prevent_v the_o perdition_n of_o other_o and_o that_o to_o be_v jeromes_n meaning_n appear_v by_o his_o note_n upon_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n gal._n 5._o a_o little_a leaven_n leaven_v the_o whole_a lump_n therefore_o say_v he_o a_o spark_n as_o soon_o as_o it_o appear_v be_v to_o be_v extinguish_v and_o the_o leaven_n to_o be_v remove_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o dough_n rot_a piece_n of_o flesh_n be_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o and_o a_o scab_a beast_n be_v to_o be_v drive_v from_o the_o sheepfold_a lest_o the_o whole_a house_n body_z mass_n of_o dough_n and_o flock_v be_v set_v on_o fire_n with_o the_o spark_n be_v putrify_v with_o the_o rot_a flesh_n sour_v with_o the_o leaven_n perish_v with_o the_o scab_a beast_n but_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v 1._o he_o grant_v to_o tertullian_n that_o heresy_n must_v be_v cut_v off_o with_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n yet_o with_o all_o he_o maintain_v a_o cut_n off_o by_o the_o second_o sword_n the_o sword_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o conceive_v that_o tertullian_n so_o mean_v because_o he_o quote_v that_o of_o the_o apostle_n a_o little_a leaven_n leaven_v the_o whole_a lump_n ans_fw-fr 2._o it_o be_v no_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o tertullian_n mean_v a_o civil_a sword_n by_o allege_v 1_o cor._n 5._o or_o gal._n 5._o which_o proper_o and_o only_o approve_v a_o cut_n off_o by_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o purge_v out_o of_o leaven_n in_o the_o church_n and_o if_o tertullian_n shall_v so_o mean_v as_o the_o answerer_n do_v yet_o 1._o the_o cut_v off_o of_o heresy_n by_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n impli_v a_o absolute_a sufficiency_n in_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o cut_v it_o down_o according_a to_o 2_o cor._n 10.4_o 2._o it_o be_v clear_a to_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o of_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o word_n allege_v by_o he_o a_o little_a leaven_n etc._n etc._n defender_n reply_v 1_o this_o testimony_n of_o jerome_n which_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n allege_v against_o persecution_n for_o conscience_n i_o may_v just_o refuse_v to_o spend_v time_n about_o it_o till_o either_o the_o author_n or_o the_o discusser_n do_v make_v it_o appear_v to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o jerome_n for_o though_o i_o at_o first_o give_v answer_n to_o it_o as_o presume_v the_o letter_n have_v not_o forge_v it_o yet_o now_o look_v into_o the_o place_n of_o jerome_n whence_o it_o be_v quote_v i_o find_v no_o such_o matter_n the_o letter_n quote_v it_o out_o of_o hieroms_n proem_n upon_o the_o four_o book_n of_o his_o commentary_n upon_o jeremy_n but_o peruse_v the_o place_n i_o find_v no_o such_o word_n neither_o in_o that_o proem_n on_o his_o four_o book_n on_o jeremy_n nor_o in_o any_o other_o proem_n of_o any_o other_o of_o his_o book_n on_o jeremy_n which_o be_v six_o in_o all_o reply_v 2._o i_o may_v here_o observe_v if_o i_o shall_v deal_v with_o he_o as_o he_o do_v with_o i_o in_o his_o chap._n 38_o the_o like_a fail_n in_o 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