Selected quad for the lemma: christian_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
christian_n christian_a church_n unity_n 1,522 5 9.2638 5 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A15093 The way to the true church wherein the principall motiues perswading according to Romanisme and questions touching the nature and authoritie of the church and scriptures, are familiarly disputed, and driuen to their issues, where, this day they sticke betweene the Papists and vs: contriued into an answer to a popish discourse concerning the rule of faith and the marks of the church. And published to admonish such as decline to papistrie of the weake and vncertaine grounds, whereupon they haue ventured their soules. Directed to all that seeke for resolution: and especially to his louing countrimen of Lancashire. By Iohn White minister of Gods word at Eccles. For the finding out of the matter and questions handled, there are three tables: two in the beginning, and one in the end of the booke. White, John, 1570-1615. 1608 (1608) STC 25394; ESTC S101725 487,534 518

There are 6 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

faith_n the_o answer_n 1_o the_o jesuite_n have_v immediate_o before_o propound_v the_o unity_n of_o his_o roman_a church_n affirm_v that_o therein_o only_a the_o unity_n of_o faith_n and_o concord_n of_o the_o learned_a be_v to_o be_v find_v now_o proceed_v to_o prove_v it_o by_o show_v the_o mean_n which_o they_o have_v for_o the_o prevent_n of_o discord_n which_o he_o think_v so_o all-sufficient_a that_o it_o be_v impossible_a there_o shall_v be_v any_o dissension_n among_o they_o the_o sum_n of_o that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v brief_o this_o they_o which_o acknowledge_v one_o chief_a pastor_n to_o wit_n the_o pope_n to_o who_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o all_o matter_n they_o submit_v themselves_o can_v possible_o dissent_v but_o all_o catholic_n acknowledge_v this_o chief_a pastor_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o his_o definitive_a sentence_n therefore_o how_o be_v it_o possible_a they_o shall_v dissent_v the_o second_o proposition_n he_o assume_v as_o grant_v though_o indeed_o it_o be_v untrue_a as_o i_o will_v show_v the_o first_o he_o prove_v thus_o they_o can_v dissent_v who_o submit_v themselves_o to_o he_o that_o have_v authority_n and_o infallibility_n of_o judgement_n but_o the_o pope_n have_v this_o authority_n and_o infallibility_n therefore_o they_o which_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o pope_n can_v dissent_v the_o second_o proposition_n he_o confirm_v thus_o we_o know_v that_o to_o s._n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n christ_n promise_v the_o key_n and_o say_v upon_o they_o as_o upon_o a_o rock_n he_o will_v build_v his_o church_n pray_v for_o they_o that_o their_o faith_n shall_v not_o fail_v and_o bid_v they_o strengthen_v their_o brethren_n and_o feed_v his_o sheep_n which_o import_v this_o authority_n in_o rule_v and_o infallibilit_fw-la it_o in_o judge_v but_o the_o pope_n be_v s._n peter_n successor_n the_o pope_n therefore_o have_v this_o authority_n and_o infallibility_n this_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o his_o discourse_n i_o answer_v first_o to_o that_o which_o he_o assume_v so_o confident_o that_o all_o catholic_a man_n submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o pope_n definition_n acknowledge_v the_o same_o to_o be_v of_o infallible_a truth_n for_o whatsoever_o his_o authority_n and_o judgement_n be_v yet_o the_o catholic_n do_v not_o so_o uniform_o as_o the_o jesuite_n pretend_v submit_v their_o opinion_n to_o he_o but_o contrariwise_o when_o occasion_n be_v offer_v they_o utter_o refuse_v both_o he_o and_o his_o definition_n and_o this_o be_v so_o true_a that_o he_o which_o will_v deny_v it_o must_v be_v repute_v ignorant_a of_o all_o sense_n and_o experience_n the_o which_o manifest_o show_v that_o not_o only_o the_o christian_a catholic_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o the_o popish_a catholic_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n this_o day_n themselves_o have_v reject_v his_o determination_n and_o hold_v opinion_n against_o he_o digression_n 25._o wherein_o it_o be_v show_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n the_o pope_n determination_n be_v not_o think_v a_o infallible_a truth_n neither_o do_v the_o christian_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o unity_n submit_v themselves_o thereunto_o 2_o for_o many_o catholic_a bishop_n in_o those_o day_n dissent_v from_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o refuse_v his_o decree_n be_v not_o think_v therefore_o to_o break_v any_o unity_n in_o the_o church_n for_o aeneas_n silvius_n who_o be_v himself_o a_o pope_n about_o seven_o score_n year_n since_o 301._o since_o epist_n 301._o write_v that_o before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a every_o man_n live_v to_o himself_o and_o small_a respect_n be_v have_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 8._o rome_n sozom._n l._n 3._o c._n 8._o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o east_n withstand_v julius_n in_o the_o cause_n of_o athanasius_n and_o charge_v he_o that_o he_o have_v do_v against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n 11._o church_n theod_n l._n 5._o c._n 23._o sozom_n l._n 7._o c._n 11._o flavianus_n the_o patriarch_n of_o antioch_n about_o his_o succeed_a meletius_n in_o that_o sea_n against_o paulinus_n resist_v four_o pope_n one_o after_o another_o when_o they_o will_v have_v have_v he_o give_v room_n to_o paulinus_n 44._o paulinus_n epi._n ad_fw-la vrsac_n &_o valent._n &_o germin_n apud_fw-la baron_n annal_n to_o 3._o ann_n 357._o nu_fw-la 44._o liberius_n who_o be_v pope_n in_o the_o year_n 360._o confess_v that_o athanasius_n be_v separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yea_o 46._o yea_o baron_fw-fr ibid._n nu_fw-la 43._o &_o 46._o the_o papist_n themselves_o acknowledge_v this_o liberius_n condemn_v athanasius_n and_o enter_v communion_n with_o the_o arrian_n which_o show_v against_o all_o exception_n that_o in_o those_o day_n the_o godly_a christian_n do_v not_o think_v either_o that_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o head_n of_o unity_n or_o that_o all_o be_v of_o the_o true_a church_n that_o hold_v communion_n with_o he_o for_o then_o the_o arrian_n have_v be_v good_a catholic_n and_o athanasius_n with_o all_o that_o take_v part_n with_o he_o have_v be_v heretic_n which_o no_o man_n dare_v say_v about_o the_o year_n 450._o 16._o 450._o act._n 16._o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n wherein_o be_v 630._o bishop_n withstand_v leo_n then_o pope_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o question_n of_o his_o supremacy_n concern_v which_o matter_v 748._o matter_v concor_fw-fr cathol_n l._n 2._o c._n 20._o pag_n 748._o cusanus_fw-la a_o cardinal_n bear_v witness_v it_o be_v manifest_a say_v he_o that_o pope_n leo_n will_v not_o in_o certain_a point_n receive_v the_o constitution_n of_o the_o chalcedon_n council_n special_o that_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n shall_v go_v before_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n but_o always_o gainsay_v they_o as_o some_o other_o pope_n do_v after_o he_o and_o yet_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n always_o prevail_v which_o experience_n prove_v that_o in_o those_o time_n the_o bishop_n over_o all_o the_o world_n will_v as_o occasion_v serve_v refuse_v the_o pope_n judgement_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v count_v good_a catholic_n for_o all_o that_o so_o likewise_o in_o the_o year_n 418._o 105._o 418._o cap._n 105._o the_o sixth_o council_n of_o carthage_n have_v in_o it_o 217._o bishop_n resist_v three_o pope_n one_o after_o another_o decree_a thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o 263._o as_o contaré_fw-fr sum_fw-la council_n magis_fw-la illustr_n pag._n 263._o the_o papist_n themselves_o expound_v the_o council_n whereof_o cusanus_fw-la supra_fw-la cusanus_fw-la vbi_fw-la supra_fw-la write_v thus_o the_o council_n of_o africa_n withstand_v celestin_n in_o that_o he_o will_v do_v against_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o celestin_n reply_v not_o that_o he_o may_v do_v it_o but_o allege_v for_o himself_o the_o council_n though_o corrupt_v which_o opposition_n make_v against_o the_o pope_n be_v so_o apparent_a that_o many_o papist_n indeed_o labour_v to_o excuse_v it_o but_o none_o deny_v it_o and_o 77._o and_o sic_fw-la undique_fw-la carthaginenses_n patres_fw-la constringuntur_fw-la ut_fw-la elabi_fw-la nullo_fw-la modo_fw-la possint_fw-la quis_fw-la iam_fw-la ferat_fw-la crassissimae_fw-la igno●antiae_fw-la illam_fw-la vocem_fw-la in_o tot_fw-la &_o tantis_fw-la patribus_fw-la ubi_fw-la illa_fw-la augustini_fw-la &_o reliquorum_fw-la prudentia_fw-la alan_n cope_n dial_n pag_n 76._o 77._o the_o despiteful_a speech_n of_o some_o papist_n against_o s._n austin_n and_o the_o bishop_n bewray_v that_o they_o discover_v the_o same_o resistance_n make_v by_o the_o council_n against_o the_o pope_n that_o i_o mention_n 3_o again_o in_o the_o year_n 167._o inde_fw-la 167._o euseb_n hist_o l._n 5._o c._n 23._o &_o inde_fw-la niceph._n l._n 4._o c._n 37._o &_o inde_fw-la there_o arise_v a_o contention_n in_o the_o church_n about_o the_o keep_n of_o easter_n whereby_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o east_n and_o west_n be_v divide_v in_o which_o contention_n the_o pope_n definitive_a sentence_n be_v not_o receive_v but_o refuse_v without_o any_o offence_n against_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n for_o first_o polycarpe_n come_v to_o anicetus_n that_o be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n in_o his_o time_n will_v not_o yield_v to_o he_o neither_o can_v anicetus_n persuade_v polycarpe_n to_o lay_v by_o his_o manner_n of_o observation_n 26._o observation_n euseb_n li._n 5._o c._n 26._o say_v the_o story_n and_o yet_o both_o side_n retain_v unity_n about_o thirty_o year_n after_o the_o question_n be_v renew_v 25._o renew_v cap._n 25._o and_o victor_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v earnest_n against_o the_o eastern_a bishop_n excommunicate_v they_o but_o this_o say_v eusebius_n please_v they_o not_o for_o they_o write_v unto_o he_o reprove_v he_o sharp_o and_o bitter_o as_o namely_o polycrates_n the_o bishop_n of_o ephesus_n and_o irenaeus_n the_o bishop_n of_o lion_n here_o in_o the_o west_n these_o have_v many_o on_o their_o side_n that_o stand_v against_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o that_o which_o afterward_o take_v up_o the_o controversy_n be_v not_o his_o
contain_v a_o discourse_n of_o saint_n augustine_n about_o man_n error_n against_o the_o scripture_n 10._o 15._o show_v that_o private_a and_o particular_a company_n may_v sometime_o be_v assure_v of_o the_o truth_n against_o a_o pretend_a catholic_n company_n 12._o 16._o show_v how_o the_o papist_n pretend_v at_o every_o word_n the_o catholic_n church_n yet_o mean_v nothing_o thereby_o but_o the_o pope_n determination_n 13._o 17._o wherein_o it_o be_v show_v be_v what_o manner_n the_o church_n be_v say_v to_o be_v invisible_a and_o that_o the_o papist_n say_v no_o less_o concern_v this_o matter_n than_o we_o do_v 17._o 18._o prove_v the_o true_a faith_n or_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v a_o good_a mark_n to_o know_v the_o church_n by_o 24._o 19_o touch_v the_o place_n of_o saint_n austin_n contra_fw-la epist_n fundam_fw-la cap._n 5._o and_o the_o matter_n which_o the_o papist_n gather_v from_o it_o 28._o 20._o concern_v the_o proceed_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n in_o determine_v the_o matter_n of_o faith_n 31._o 21._o show_v that_o god_n true_a church_n in_o all_o age_n have_v now_o and_o then_o be_v trouble_v with_o contention_n as_o great_a as_o be_v now_o among_o us._n 33._o 22._o object_v the_o behaviour_n of_o papist_n towards_o the_o divine_a scripture_n thereby_o to_o show_v their_o vary_v from_o that_o which_o in_o former_a time_n the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n believe_v 35._o 23._o wherein_o by_o five_o example_n it_o be_v show_v that_o the_o modern_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v vary_v in_o point_n of_o faith_n from_o that_o which_o it_o believe_v former_o and_o since_o the_o time_n also_o that_o it_o begin_v to_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n 35._o 24._o touch_v the_o contention_n among_o the_o learned_a papist_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o how_o the_o papist_n live_v not_o in_o that_o unity_n that_o be_v pretend_v 35._o 25._o whererein_o it_o be_v show_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n the_o pope_n determination_n be_v not_o think_v a_o infallible_a truth_n neither_o do_v the_o christian_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o unity_n submit_v themselves_o thereunto_o 36._o 26._o show_v that_o the_o papist_n themselves_o do_v not_o so_o constant_o and_o uniform_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o pope_n judgement_n nor_o believe_v his_o infallible_a authority_n as_o be_v pretend_v 36._o 27._o show_v that_o the_o primitive_a church_n acknowledge_v not_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n 36._o 28._o show_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o of_o infallible_a judgement_n but_o may_v err_v and_o fall_v into_o heresy_n as_o any_o other_o man_n may_v 36._o 29._o declare_v the_o pope_n not_o to_o be_v saint_n peter_n successor_n 36._o 30._o wherein_o it_o be_v show_v that_o the_o papist_n be_v not_o agree_v among_o themselves_o to_o this_o day_n how_o peter_n suppose_a primacy_n be_v prove_v or_o what_o it_o contain_v but_o they_o be_v altogether_o uncertain_a in_o expound_v the_o main_a text_n of_o scripture_n whereupon_o they_o build_v it_o 36._o 31._o contain_v many_o complaint_n make_v by_o the_o papist_n themselves_o against_o their_o own_o church_n and_o people_n whereby_o it_o appear_v their_o life_n be_v worse_o than_o can_v be_v say_v of_o the_o protestant_n 38._o 32._o touch_v fast_n and_o how_o we_o differ_v from_o the_o papist_n therein_o and_o whether_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n be_v against_o it_o as_o the_o papist_n charge_v us._n 40._o 33._o concern_v auricular_a confession_n or_o shrift_n to_o a_o priest_n show_v the_o needlesnesse_n thereof_o and_o how_o it_o be_v a_o occasion_n rather_o than_o a_o remedy_n of_o sin_n 40._o 34._o concern_v the_o necessity_n or_o requisite_a condition_n of_o good_a work_n for_o our_o salvation_n show_v that_o the_o protestant_n hold_v it_o 40._o 35._o touch_v the_o merit_n of_o our_o work_n and_o what_o be_v to_o be_v hold_v thereof_o 40._o 36._o answer_v those_o that_o accuse_v the_o protestant_n for_o hold_v that_o no_o man_n can_v keep_v god_n commandment_n and_o show_v what_o be_v to_o be_v hold_v concern_v that_o matter_n 40._o 37._o whether_o the_o protestant_n think_v whatsoever_o we_o do_v be_v sin_n 40._o 38._o against_o the_o distinction_n of_o sin_n into_o mortal_a and_o venial_a 40._o 39_o touch_v the_o satisfaction_n that_o man_n be_v bind_v unto_o for_o their_o sin_n 40._o 40._o wherein_o the_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n by_o faith_n only_o be_v expound_v and_o defend_v 40._o 41_o entreat_v of_o predestination_n and_o freewill_n as_o the_o protestant_n hold_v they_o and_o show_v that_o their_o doctrine_n concern_v these_o point_n do_v neither_o make_v god_n the_o author_n of_o sin_n nor_o lead_v man_n to_o be_v careless_a of_o there_o live_v nor_o infer_v any_o absolute_a necessity_n constrain_a we_o that_o we_o can_v do_v otherwise_o then_o we_o do_v 40._o 42._o again_o touch_v freewill_n wherein_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n be_v methodical_o propound_v and_o in_o every_o point_n compare_v with_o that_o which_o the_o papist_n hold_v that_o the_o several_a question_n between_o they_o and_o we_o and_o the_o manner_n how_o and_o where_o they_o rise_v may_v be_v see_v distinct_o set_v down_o 40._o 43._o prove_v that_o god_n child_n without_o miracle_n or_o extraordinary_a revelation_n may_v be_v and_o be_v infallible_o assure_v that_o they_o have_v grace_n and_o shall_v be_v save_v 41._o 44._o answer_v that_o which_o the_o papist_n object_n touch_v the_o miracle_n of_o their_o church_n and_o saint_n therein_o 42._o 45._o touch_v monk_n and_o religious_a order_n hold_v among_o the_o papist_n which_o they_o say_v we_o have_v reject_v and_o forsake_v 42._o 46._o name_v certain_a point_n of_o the_o papist_n faith_n which_o direct_o tend_v to_o the_o maintenance_n of_o open_a sin_n and_o liberty_n of_o life_n 43._o 47._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o matter_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o religion_n wherein_o it_o be_v show_v what_o we_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o and_o how_o farforth_o we_o depend_v upon_o they_o and_o the_o practice_n of_o our_o adversary_n in_o contemn_v clude_v and_o refuse_v both_o they_o and_o their_o own_o writer_n be_v plain_o discover_v 44._o 48_o contain_v a_o brief_a and_o direct_a answer_n to_o our_o adversary_n when_o they_o say_v we_o can_v assign_v a_o visible_a company_n profess_v the_o same_o faith_n in_o every_o point_n that_o we_o do_v ever_o since_o christ_n till_o now_o without_o intterruption_n 45._o 49._o object_v eight_o point_n for_o example_n wherein_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n hold_v contrary_a to_o that_o which_o former_o be_v hold_v the_o conception_n of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n latin_a service_n read_v the_o scripture_n priest_n marriage_n image_n supremacy_n communion_n in_o one_o kind_n transubstantion_n 47._o 50._o of_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o indies_n to_o the_o roman_a faith_n by_o the_o jesuite_n 49._o 51._o name_v seven_o point_n of_o the_o popish_a religion_n with_o the_o time_n when_o and_o manner_n how_o they_o gate_n into_o the_o church_n thereby_o to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v sufficient_a record_n to_o detect_v the_o novelty_n of_o the_o present_a roman_a faith_n 50._o 52._o show_v that_o the_o present_a religion_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v observe_v and_o resist_v in_o all_o age_n as_o it_o come_v in_o and_o increase_v name_v withal_o the_o person_n that_o make_v the_o resistance_n and_o the_o point_n wherein_o and_o the_o time_n when_o from_o fifty_o year_n to_o fifty_o throughout_o all_o age_n since_o christ_n compendious_o observe_v out_o of_o history_n for_o the_o satisfy_n of_o their_o error_n that_o so_o much_o conceit_n the_o antiquity_n of_o papistry_n and_o think_v it_o be_v never_o control_v till_o luther_n time_n 50._o 53._o object_v seven_o thing_n against_o the_o outward_a succession_n of_o pope_n in_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n whereby_o the_o same_o be_v clear_o demonstrate_v to_o have_v be_v interrupt_v and_o not_o to_o be_v any_o certain_a or_o infallible_a succession_n 55._o 54._o contain_v a_o brief_a narration_n touch_v the_o life_n and_o death_n of_o martin_n luther_n with_o the_o incredible_a report_n thereof_o make_v by_o his_o adversary_n &_o show_v how_o sundry_a pope_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v live_v and_o die_v worse_a than_o he_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v all_o report_n make_v of_o he_o be_v true_a 57_o 55._o show_v how_o uncertain_a and_o contrary_a the_o papist_n be_v among_o themselves_o touch_v the_o power_n of_o their_o priesthood_n in_o remit_v sin_n and_o concern_v the_o first_o institution_n of_o shrift_n where_o it_o begin_v de_fw-fr judice_fw-la fidei_fw-la admonitio_fw-la catholica_fw-la ad_fw-la lectorem_fw-la pvrus_n ab_fw-la impuro_fw-la num_fw-la differt_fw-la sanguine_fw-la sanguis_fw-la differt_fw-la iudicium_fw-la laudo_fw-la galene_n tuum_fw-la ritibus_fw-la in_o sacris_fw-la secernitur_fw-la hoedus_fw-la ab_fw-la agno_fw-la vox_fw-la tua_fw-la
l._n 11._o c._n 3._o ecclesiam_fw-la esse_fw-la regulam_fw-la infallibilem_fw-la proponendi_fw-la &_o explican_n li_z veritates_fw-la fidei_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la reduci_fw-la ad_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la ipsius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la hoc_fw-la enim_fw-la esset_fw-la idem_fw-la per_fw-la idem_fw-la confirmare_fw-la sed_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la reducere_fw-la hunc_fw-la assensum_fw-la ad_fw-la testimonium_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la in_o ●linantis_fw-la per_fw-la ●umen_fw-la fidei_fw-la ●d_a ●oc_fw-la credibile_fw-la ●ccle●ia_fw-la non_fw-la ●otest_fw-la errate_n dom._n ban_n 22._o q._n 1._o art_n 1_o pag._n 17._o austin_n be_v well_o consider_v moses_n that_o write_v these_o thing_n o_o god_n be_v go_v to_o thou_o if_o he_o be_v now_o before_o i_o i_o will_v desire_v he_o to_o open_v they_o to_o i_o and_o i_o will_v hear_v he_o if_o he_o speak_v hebrew_n i_o can_v not_o understand_v he_o if_o he_o speak_v latin_a i_o can_v know_v what_o he_o say_v but_o how_o shall_v i_o know_v whether_o he_o speak_v the_o truth_n and_o if_o i_o do_v know_v it_o can_v i_o know_v it_o from_o he_o for_o within_o i_o in_o the_o inner_a parlour_n of_o my_o thought_n there_o be_v neither_o hebrew_n nor_o latin_a ●or_a barbarian_a truth_n that_o can_v say_v moses_n say_v true_a that_o i_o shall_v present_o be_v certain_a and_o confident_a say_v to_o he_o thy_o servant_n thou_o say_v the_o truth_n therefore_o see_v i_o can_v ask_v he_o i_o ask_v thou_o the_o truth_n by_o who_o fullness_n he_o speak_v the_o truth_n thee_o o_o my_o god_n i_o beseech_v pardon_v my_o sin_n and_o which_o give_v he_o power_n to_o speak_v these_o thing_n give_v i_o also_o power_n to_o understand_v they_o austin_n will_v never_o have_v inquire_v thus_o how_o he_o shall_v know_v whether_o moses_n speak_v the_o truth_n if_o he_o have_v think_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n can_v secure_v we_o he_o can_v not_o believe_v the_o scripture_n upon_o moses_n word_n then_o much_o less_o can_v he_o believe_v it_o on_o the_o church_n yea_o his_o word_n do_v whole_o exclude_v the_o authority_n of_o moses_n both_o total_a and_o partial_a 20_o the_o papist_n therefore_o be_v the_o patron_n of_o atheism_n 25._o atheism_n bellarm_n de_fw-fr effect_n sacram._n l._n 2._o c._n 25._o who_o teach_v that_o if_o we_o take_v away_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o present_a church_n and_o of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n than_o the_o whole_a christian_a faith_n may_v be_v call_v in_o question_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o all_o ancient_a counsel_n and_o of_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n depend_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n how_o much_o better_o say_v 37._o say_v de_fw-fr doctrine_n christian_n l._n 1._o c._n 37._o austin_n our_o faith_n shall_v reel_v and_o totter_v if_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n stand_v not_o fast_o let_v these_o assertion_n of_o papistry_n be_v well_o note_v §_o 9_o three_o they_o err_v in_o the_o three_o condition_n for_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o so_o universal_a as_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n have_v need_v to_o be_v for_o this_o rule_n ought_v to_o be_v so_o universal_a that_o it_o may_v absolute_o resolve_v and_o determine_v all_o point_n question_n and_o doubt_n of_o faith_n which_o either_o have_v be_v or_o may_v hereafter_o fall_v in_o controversy_n but_o the_o scripture_n alone_o be_v not_o thus_o universal_a 1._o universal_a non_fw-la inficiamur_fw-la praecipua_fw-la illa_fw-la fidei_fw-la dogmata_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la omnibus_fw-la necessaria_fw-la perspicuè_fw-fr satis_fw-la comprehendi_fw-la in_o scriptura_fw-la coster_n ench_n c._n 1._o for_o there_o be_v diverse_a question_n of_o faith_n and_o those_o also_o touch_v very_o substantial_a point_n which_o be_v not_o express_o set_v down_o and_o determine_v in_o the_o scripture_n as_o namely_o that_o those_o book_n which_o be_v general_o hold_v for_o scripture_n be_v every_o one_o the_o true_a word_n of_o god_n for_o this_o in_o particular_a of_o every_o book_n hold_v for_o scripture_n we_o shall_v not_o find_v express_o write_v in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o scripture_n this_o part_n therefore_o whereupon_o depend_v the_o certainty_n of_o every_o other_o point_n prove_v out_o of_o scripture_n can_v be_v make_v infallible_o sure_a unto_o our_o understanding_n or_o belief_n unless_o we_o put_v some_o other_o infallible_a rule_n whereupon_o we_o may_v ground_v a_o infallible_a belief_n which_o infallible_a rule_n if_o we_o admit_v to_o assure_v we_o that_o there_o be_v at_o all_o any_o scripture_n and_o that_o those_o book_n and_o no_o other_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n why_o shall_v we_o not_o aswell_o admit_v it_o to_o assure_v we_o infallible_o which_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n and_o meaning_n in_o all_o point_n of_o the_o same_o scripture_n the_o answer_n 1_o the_o jesuit_n first_o exception_n against_o the_o scripture_n be_v that_o it_o be_v too_o difficult_a now_o follow_v his_o next_o that_o it_o contain_v not_o all_o thing_n needful_a to_o be_v know_v thus_o his_o argument_n may_v be_v conclude_v the_o rule_n must_v be_v universal_a contain_v all_o point_n of_o faith_n but_o such_o be_v not_o the_o scripture_n for_o many_o substantial_a point_n be_v not_o express_o set_v down_o therein_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o the_o rule_n whereto_o i_o answer_v deny_v the_o assumption_n for_o every_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o whatsoever_o else_o be_v needful_a either_o to_o be_v know_v or_o do_v be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n so_o far_o forth_o that_o there_o be_v no_o point_n question_n or_o doubt_n concern_v faith_n but_o by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o it_o may_v absolute_o be_v determine_v for_o 3.15_o for_o 2._o tim._n 3.15_o it_o be_v profitable_a to_o teach_v to_o reprove_v to_o correct_v and_o to_o instruct_v in_o all_o righteousness_n that_o the_o child_n of_o god_n may_v be_v absolute_a be_v make_v perfect_a to_o all_o good_a work_n 2_o but_o the_o jesuite_n say_v there_o be_v diverse_a thing_n not_o express_o set_v down_o or_o determine_v reserve_v this_o word_n express_o for_o a_o start_a hole_n to_o creep_v out_o at_o because_o they_o be_v not_o write_v word_n for_o word_n in_o so_o many_o syllable_n but_o i_o answer_v he_o three_o thing_n first_o that_o the_o popish_a divinity_n be_v that_o many_o point_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n neither_o thus_o express_o nor_o yet_o at_o all_o to_o be_v conclude_v thence_o by_o collection_n for_o else_o why_o make_v they_o that_o opposition_n between_o the_o scripture_n and_o tradition_n second_o if_o this_o be_v his_o mind_n than_o he_o have_v put_v more_o into_o the_o assumption_n than_o be_v in_o the_o proposition_n for_o the_o rule_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o contain_v all_o thing_n thus_o express_o three_o that_o be_v express_o in_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v there_o set_v down_o either_o plain_o in_o so_o many_o word_n as_o 9_o as_o de_fw-fr doctrine_n christian_n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o austin_n say_v all_o thing_n be_v that_o concern_v our_o faith_n and_o manner_n or_o by_o analogy_n when_o it_o be_v necessary_o imply_v in_o the_o text_n for_o 3._o for_o alliaco_fw-it 1._o sen_fw-mi qu._n 1._o art_n 3._o every_o such_o conclusion_n be_v a_o theological_a discourse_n and_o have_v his_o warrant_n from_o the_o text_n and_o so_o still_o the_o scripture_n contain_v all_o thing_n needful_a 3_o against_o this_o the_o jesuit_n have_v one_o argument_n that_o it_o be_v not_o where_o write_v that_o these_o book_n of_o scripture_n that_o we_o have_v be_v the_o true_a word_n of_o god_n whereto_o i_o answer_v first_o though_o this_o be_v grant_v yet_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n because_o in_o every_o profession_n the_o principle_n be_v indemonstrable_a assent_v to_o without_o discourse_n and_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o principle_n of_o religion_n and_o therefore_o first_o we_o must_v grant_v they_o to_o be_v the_o very_a word_n of_o god_n and_o then_o say_v they_o be_v such_o as_o contain_v all_o point_n needful_a to_o be_v know_v this_o then_o which_o the_o jesuite_n require_v to_o be_v show_v out_o of_o the_o text_n itself_o be_v first_o to_o be_v suppose_v yea_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v the_o true_a word_n of_o god_n whereto_o we_o be_v persuade_v by_o the_o heavenly_a light_n itself_o second_o i_o wonder_v at_o the_o jesuite_n confidence_n that_o dare_v so_o bold_o say_v that_o of_o every_o book_n hold_v for_o scripture_n we_o find_v it_o not_o express_o write_v that_o they_o be_v the_o true_a word_n of_o god_n for_o saint_n paul_n 3.16_o paul_n 2._o tim._n 3.16_o say_v express_o all_o scripture_n be_v give_v by_o inspiration_n of_o god_n and_o saint_n peter_n 1.70_o peter_n 2._o pet_n 1.20_o luc._n 1.70_o say_v no_o prophecy_n in_o the_o scripture_n be_v of_o private_a interpretation_n but_o the_o holy_a man_n of_o god_n speak_v as_o they_o be_v move_v by_o
such_o revelation_n as_o the_o jesuit_n boast_v of_o for_o when_o the_o contention_n be_v among_o they_o about_o the_o conception_n of_o the_o virgin_n marie_n and_o some_o to_o prove_v it_o be_v without_o original_a sin_n allege_a revelation_n make_v to_o saint_n bernard_n brigit_fw-la and_o other_o the_o contrary_a side_n reply_v as_o the_o protestant_n do_v that_o these_o be_v fantastic_a vision_n not_o send_v of_o god_n but_o man_n dream_n and_o saint_n katherine_n of_o sienna_n have_v a_o revelation_n to_o the_o contrary_n 2._o contrary_n anton._n part_n 1._o tit_n 8._o c._n 2._o thus_o answer_v john_n of_o naples_n and_o antoninus_n himself_o a_o saint_n teach_v the_o protestant_n how_o to_o answer_v henceforward_o when_o these_o miracle_n and_o revelation_n be_v so_o importunate_o object_v 4_o and_o sure_o it_o be_v as_o ridiculous_a a_o absurdity_n as_o they_o can_v light_o have_v commit_v thus_o to_o multiply_v their_o saint_n turn_v heaven_n into_o a_o stage_n as_o relig_n as_o scenam_fw-la de_fw-fr coelo_fw-la fecistis_fw-la jul._n firmic_n de_fw-fr errore_fw-la profan_n relig_n a_o father_n speak_v of_o the_o gentile_n and_o fill_v it_o with_o toy_n and_o legend_n fable_n and_o then_o to_o be_v so_o uncertain_a about_o their_o own_o device_n when_o they_o have_v do_v yea_o to_o smile_n at_o the_o jest_n and_o laugh_v at_o their_o own_o theatre_n as_o caietan_n antoninus_n john_n of_o naples_n and_o other_o do_v but_o if_o the_o jesuit_n and_o some_o of_o his_o mind_n carry_v a_o grave_a countenance_n in_o this_o matter_n and_o speak_v more_o respective_o of_o their_o saint_n they_o be_v wise_a herein_o see_v the_o pope_n have_v dub_v they_o and_o have_v learn_v possible_a his_o lesson_n in_o 〈◊〉_d in_o verb._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d suidas_n that_o say_v it_o be_v no_o wisdom_n to_o be_v out_o of_o conceit_n with_o any_o god_n as_o hippolytus_n be_v with_o venus_n the_o best_a way_n be_v to_o say_v well_o of_o all_o special_o at_o athens_n now_o at_o rome_n where_o unknown_a god_n also_o have_v altar_n dedicate_v to_o they_o let_v our_o adversary_n bethink_v themselves_o at_o last_o of_o this_o 6._o this_o no_o man_n be_v able_a to_o put_v any_o difference_n between_o the_o miracle_n of_o christ_n with_o his_o apostle_n and_o of_o these_o holy_a man_n saint_n thomas_n aquinas_n bernard_n b●naventure_n beck_n francis_n dominicke_n and_o infinite_a other_o bristo_n mo●_n 6._o their_o dotage_n and_o make_v choice_n of_o such_o as_o be_v without_o controversy_n true_a saint_n in_o deed_n let_v they_o without_o idolatry_n preserve_v their_o memory_n and_o imitate_v their_o godliness_n and_o return_v to_o the_o unity_n of_o their_o doctrine_n to_o reform_v their_o innumerable_a heresy_n thereby_o which_o if_o they_o will_v do_v they_o may_v with_o comfort_n rejoice_v in_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o saint_n whereas_o now_o meddle_v with_o they_o as_o they_o do_v they_o expose_v themselves_o to_o the_o scorn_n of_o man_n and_o rebuke_n of_o child_n §_o 40._o neither_o be_v their_o doctrine_n such_o as_o may_v of_o itself_o lead_v one_o unto_o holiness_n but_o rather_o to_o all_o liberty_n and_o looseness_n of_o life_n as_o for_o example_n to_o break_v fast_v day_n to_o cast_v away_o confession_n of_o sin_n to_o a_o priest_n which_o be_v know_v to_o be_v so_o sovereign_a a_o remedy_n against_o sin_n to_o neglect_v good_a work_n because_o they_o hold_v they_o not_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n nor_o meritorious_a in_o god_n sight_n not_o to_o labour_n or_o endeavour_n to_o keep_v god_n commandment_n because_o they_o hold_v they_o impossible_a and_o as_o it_o be_v say_v impossibilium_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la electio_fw-la no_o man_n choose_v or_o labour_v to_o achieve_v that_o which_o he_o esteem_v altogether_o impossible_a not_o to_o be_v careful_a to_o avoid_v any_o sin_n because_o they_o hold_v that_o whatsoever_o we_o do_v be_v sin_n and_o that_o all_o sin_n be_v mortal_a in_o themselves_o and_o that_o there_o need_v no_o penance_n or_o satisfaction_n to_o be_v do_v of_o our_o part_n for_o any_o sin_n contrary_a to_o that_o of_o s._n john_n baptist_n facite_fw-la fructus_fw-la dignos_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la do_v you_o work_v worthy_a of_o penance_n and_o that_o of_o our_o saviour_n poenitentiam_fw-la agite_fw-la matth._n 4._o do_v penance_n but_o that_o there_o be_v a_o easy_a remedy_n for_o all_o to_o wit_n that_o by_o only_a faith_n they_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o we_o final_o to_o be_v careless_a or_o desperate_a in_o all_o action_n or_o consultation_n because_o they_o hold_v all_o thing_n so_o to_o proceed_v of_o god_n his_o eternal_a predestination_n that_o man_n at_o least_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n have_v no_o freewill_n and_o that_o he_o can_v do_v otherwise_o then_o he_o do_v and_o that_o god_n himself_o be_v author_n of_o sin_n lo_o whither_o this_o doctrine_n of_o itself_o lead_v consider_v whether_o this_o can_v be_v a_o good_a tree_n which_o of_o it_o own_o nature_n bring_v forth_o so_o bad_a fruit_n and_o see_v whether_o this_o can_v be_v a_o holy_a church_n which_o teach_v such_o point_n of_o unholy_a doctrine_n as_o of_o themselves_o draw_v man_n or_o at_o least_o open_a the_o gap_n to_o such_o disorderly_a and_o lewd_a and_o wicked_a life_n the_o answer_n 1_o there_o be_v no_o part_n of_o our_o faith_n so_o holy_a but_o evil_a mind_n may_v pervert_v it_o and_o take_v occasion_n of_o liberty_n thereby_o as_o they_o do_v that_o say_v 6.1_o say_v rom._n 6.1_o let_v we_o sin_v that_o grace_n may_v abound_v 15.32_o abound_v 1._o cor._n 15.32_o and_o will_v do_v nothing_o but_o eat_v and_o drink_v because_o to_o morrow_n they_o must_v die_v from_o the_o which_o perverseness_n of_o the_o wicked_a we_o confess_v we_o can_v free_v our_o doctrine_n neither_o can_v the_o apostle_n before_o we_o but_o set_v this_o aside_o the_o matter_n itself_o we_o teach_v be_v so_o far_o from_o give_v liberty_n that_o we_o desire_v the_o holiness_n of_o our_o church_n be_v try_v thereby_o rather_o than_o by_o any_o thing_n else_o and_o i_o marvel_v the_o jesuite_n shame_v not_o to_o say_v the_o contrary_a when_o the_o learn_a of_o his_o side_n give_v this_o testimony_n with_o it_o that_o 7._o that_o staplet_n de_fw-fr iustif_a l._n 9_o c._n 7._o the_o protestant_n every_o one_o of_o they_o hold_v justify_v faith_n be_v lively_a work_v by_o charity_n and_o other_o good_a work_n yea_o 6._o yea_o bell._n the_o iustif_a l._n 3._o c._n 6._o no_o man_n can_v be_v justify_v without_o such_o a_o faith_n and_o serious_a repentance_n for_o hence_o it_o follow_v voluntary_o that_o the_o whole_a course_n of_o our_o doctrine_n be_v against_o sin_n because_o true_a faith_n work_v by_o love_n &_o serious_a repentance_n of_o their_o own_o nature_n expel_v liberty_n as_o one_o contrary_a do_v another_o but_o this_o be_v the_o manner_n of_o our_o lie_a adversary_n first_o to_o misreport_v our_o teach_n to_o the_o people_n next_o to_o extort_v violent_o from_o it_o what_o their_o malice_n can_v devise_v to_o our_o discredit_n belie_v herein_o their_o own_o knowledge_n and_o then_o to_o cry_v amain_o one_o to_o another_o lo_o whither_o this_o doctrine_n lead_v thus_o hope_v with_o the_o dash_n of_o a_o goose_n quill_n to_o outface_v the_o truth_n of_o christ_n gospel_n but_o let_v the_o matter_n be_v examine_v and_o the_o point_n themselves_o here_o reckon_v up_o look_v into_o and_o the_o reader_n shall_v find_v that_o when_o they_o be_v conceive_v as_o we_o hold_v they_o they_o endure_v neither_o lewdness_n nor_o liberty_n and_o many_o learned_a and_o right_a skilful_a papist_n hold_v they_o with_o we_o that_o the_o jesuite_n may_v blush_v at_o his_o ignorance_n digression_n 32._o touch_v fast_n and_o how_o we_o differ_v from_o the_o papist_n therein_o and_o whether_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n be_v against_o it_o as_o the_o papist_n charge_v us._n 2_o the_o first_o point_n object_v against_o we_o be_v mere_o false_a for_o we_o have_v no_o doctrine_n that_o teach_v to_o break_v fast_v day_n but_o the_o contrary_a that_o fast_v be_v a_o christian_a exercise_n needful_a to_o be_v use_v for_o the_o humble_v and_o enable_v of_o ourselves_o to_o the_o duty_n of_o prayer_n and_o repentance_n as_o often_o as_o the_o time_n shall_v require_v and_o we_o hold_v he_o no_o good_a christian_n that_o omit_v it_o yea_o our_o church_n have_v public_a fast_n in_o the_o danger_n of_o any_o general_a affliction_n and_o our_o people_n be_v teach_v to_o fast_v private_o as_o much_o as_o any_o papist_n whatsoever_o set_v hypocrisy_n and_o superstition_n aside_o the_o difference_n be_v that_o we_o reject_v their_o set_a day_n and_o their_o manner_n of_o fast_n upon_o those_o day_n by_o distinction_n of_o meat_n for_o conscience_n sake_n wherein_o they_o place_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n by_o way_n of_o merit_n and_o satisfaction_n
thing_n first_o that_o if_o religion_n be_v among_o the_o britain_n and_o extinguish_v no_o where_o but_o in_o kent_n where_o austin_n arrive_v than_o he_o convert_v not_o the_o land_n but_o one_o poor_a country_n in_o it_o and_o must_v be_v call_v no_o long_o the_o apostle_n of_o england_n but_o the_o apostle_n of_o kent_n which_o compass_n i_o think_v our_o ambitious_a adversary_n will_v not_o be_v content_a with_o because_o it_o be_v too_o narrow_a for_o their_o turn_n next_o 4_o next_o three_o conver_n part_n 1._o c._n 11_o n._n 4_o the_o busy_a adversary_n that_o we_o have_v in_o this_o matter_n say_v all_o the_o land_n be_v convert_v about_o that_o time_n for_o austin_n convert_v the_o kingdom_n of_o kent_n &_o the_o east_n saxon_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n be_v convert_v within_o less_o than_o threescore_o year_n after_o be_v seven_o state_n in_o all_o the_o which_o narration_n ascribe_v the_o same_o want_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n to_o all_o the_o land_n that_o in_o the_o objection_n be_v lay_v to_o kent_n alone_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o faith_n be_v not_o extinct_a in_o kent_n because_o it_o be_v remain_v still_o in_o the_o other_o six_o kingdom_n the_o which_o to_o be_v true_a appear_v by_o bede_n who_o 8.17.21_o who_o l._n 1._o c._n 8.17.21_o write_v that_o afore_o augustine_n come_n the_o britain_n be_v trouble_v with_o arrianisme_n and_o pelagianisme_n but_o germanus_n lupus_n and_o severus_n three_o french_a bishop_n deliver_v they_o whereby_o it_o be_v plain_o prove_v that_o the_o whole_a land_n be_v not_o convert_v by_o austin_n but_o have_v the_o faith_n long_o before_o he_o come_v three_o touch_v kent_n itself_o where_o austin_n arrive_v over_o and_o beside_o that_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v want_v the_o faith_n any_o more_o than_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o land_n do_v bede_n 25.26_o bede_n l._n 1._o c._n 25.26_o say_v that_o the_o queen_n thereof_o be_v a_o french_a woman_n call_v bertha_n a_o good_a christian_a and_o have_v a_o christian_a bishop_n even_o at_o that_o time_n when_o austin_n come_v 2._o come_v l._n 2._o c._n 2._o and_o he_o add_v further_a that_o when_o he_o arrive_v he_o find_v diverse_a briton_n bishop_n and_o learned_a man_n with_o a_o monastery_n at_o bangor_n all_o which_o be_v christian_n and_o refuse_v austin_n for_o his_o pride_n which_o they_o find_v in_o he_o contrary_a to_o christ_n humility_n and_o touch_v the_o britain_n our_o adversary_n 1._o adversary_n three_o conver_n par_fw-fr 1._o c._n 9_o n._n 1._o write_v that_o from_o king_n lucius_n time_n until_o the_o come_n of_o austin_n which_o be_v four_o hundred_o year_n and_o more_o they_o do_v not_o alter_v their_o faith_n but_o it_o remain_v among_o they_o when_o he_o enter_v for_o 17._o for_o lib._n 1._o c._n 17._o bede_n say_v that_o when_o a_o certain_a bishop_n son_n broach_v the_o heresy_n of_o pelagius_n in_o the_o land_n yet_o the_o people_n will_v not_o receive_v it_o which_o constrain_v we_o to_o think_v that_o austin_n bring_v not_o the_o faith_n into_o the_o land_n with_o he_o but_o find_v it_o there_o when_o he_o come_v his_o errand_n as_o it_o may_v probable_o be_v think_v be_v about_o the_o plant_n of_o certain_a ceremony_n and_o the_o deal_n with_o our_o countryman_n about_o the_o observation_n of_o easter_n and_o praefat_fw-la and_o cassand_n ordo_fw-la rom._n praefat_fw-la gregory_n that_o send_v he_o about_o that_o time_n be_v busy_a in_o change_v the_o liturgy_n use_v in_o these_o western_a part_n and_o do_v change_v they_o and_o thrust_v his_o new_a one_o upon_o all_o the_o place_n he_o can_v it_o may_v be_v this_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o monk_n business_n into_o kent_n 3_o and_o as_o the_o jesuite_n untrue_o ascribe_v the_o conversion_n of_o england_n to_o the_o monk_n so_o have_v he_o as_o absurd_o write_v that_o the_o protestant_n religion_n be_v unhatched_a for_o i_o know_v not_o how_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v but_o that_o papist_n be_v famous_a for_o their_o adventure_n for_o before_o the_o conquest_n elfrici_n conquest_n homil._n saxonic_n a_o elfrici_n aelfricus_fw-la a_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n cause_v the_o people_n of_o the_o land_n to_o be_v teach_v the_o same_o doctrine_n touch_v the_o sacrament_n that_o we_o hold_v and_o chron_n and_o h._n huntingd._n l._n 7._o fab._n chron_n the_o priest_n be_v marry_v as_o now_o they_o be_v and_o 1._o and_o bed_n l._n 1._o c._n 1._o the_o scripture_n be_v use_v in_o the_o mother_n tongue_n and_o after_o the_o conquest_n live_v john_n wickliff_n and_o the_o lollard_n who_o hold_v the_o same_o faith_n that_o we_o do_v and_o suffer_v persecution_n for_o it_o 4_o that_o which_o he_o say_v of_o other_o country_n convert_v by_o mean_n of_o such_o as_o be_v member_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n prove_v not_o papistry_n to_o be_v either_o ancient_a or_o universal_a for_o the_o three_o first_o author_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v speak_v of_o the_o time_n within_o the_o first_o five_o hundred_o year_n when_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v of_o our_o religion_n and_o that_o which_o they_o report_v be_v not_o of_o any_o who_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n send_v or_o procure_v to_o convert_v the_o country_n but_o this_o 24_o this_o socr._n l._n 1._o c._n 19.20_o soz._n l._n 2_o c._n 24_o that_o frumentius_n be_v send_v by_o athanasius_n the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n convert_v the_o indian_n 40._o indian_n niceph._n l._n 14._o c._n 40._o and_o a_o captive_a woman_n convert_v the_o iberian_o and_o a_o sort_n of_o jew_n in_o crect_n be_v convert_v by_o the_o inhabitant_n and_o the_o burgundian_n instruct_v by_o a_o french_a bishop_n in_o all_o which_o there_o be_v neither_o mention_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n nor_o of_o the_o present_a faith_n now_o profess_v therein_o but_o our_o adversary_n think_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v find_v in_o antiquity_n concern_v the_o ancient_a church_n of_o rome_n shall_v belong_v to_o they_o wherein_o they_o find_v themselves_o deceive_v as_o often_o as_o the_o matter_n be_v put_v to_o trial_n and_o this_o one_o example_n may_v show_v it_o for_o allow_v all_o these_o country_n to_o have_v be_v convert_v by_o such_o as_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o this_o be_v a_o thousand_o year_n ago_o when_o that_o church_n be_v the_o same_o that_o we_o be_v and_o so_o the_o conversion_n be_v wrought_v by_o person_n adhere_v to_o the_o protestant_n faith_n the_o three_o last_o author_n platina_n aeneas_n and_o baronius_n be_v papist_n live_v one_o of_o they_o at_o this_o day_n the_o other_o within_o the_o memory_n of_o our_o father_n and_o therefore_o i_o regard_v not_o what_o they_o write_v touch_v this_o question_n because_o we_o have_v more_o ancient_a record_n against_o they_o and_o yet_o whatsoever_o they_o have_v write_v the_o present_a roman_a faith_n be_v not_o justify_v thereby_o for_o heretic_n may_v convert_v nation_n to_o heresy_n as_o 19_o as_o oros_n hist_o l._n 7._o c._n 19_o the_o arrian_n and_o 347._o and_o cedren_n compend_v pag._n 347._o mahomet_n have_v do_v therefore_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o first_o they_o prove_v their_o faith_n to_o be_v agreeable_a with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n by_o compare_v they_o together_o afore_o they_o boast_v of_o their_o conversion_n digression_n 50._o of_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o indies_n to_o the_o roman_a faith_n by_o the_o jesuite_n 5_o but_o that_o which_o he_o urge_v concern_v the_o indies_n must_v be_v a_o little_a further_o look_v into_o for_o 18._o for_o epist_n indic_n bellar._n not_o eccl_n c._n 12._o hard._n confut_o apol_n p._n 18._o our_o adversary_n make_v much_o ado_n and_o tell_v wonder_n of_o their_o miracle_n and_o conversion_n there_o but_o mark_v the_o word_n of_o franciscus_n victoria_n their_o own_o writer_n it_o do_v not_o 200._o not_o relect._n 5._o pag._n 200._o say_v he_o sufficient_o appear_v to_o i_o that_o the_o christian_a faith_n have_v hitherto_o be_v so_o offer_v and_o preach_v to_o the_o indies_n that_o they_o shall_v under_o the_o pain_n of_o sin_n be_v bind_v to_o believe_v it_o this_o i_o say_v because_o they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o believe_v unless_o the_o faith_n be_v propound_v to_o they_o with_o probable_a persuasion_n but_o miracle_n or_o sign_n i_o hear_v of_o none_o nor_o example_n of_o life_n so_o religious_a nay_o the_o contrary_a i_o hear_v of_o many_o scandal_n and_o villainy_n and_o many_o impiety_n whence_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o christian_a religion_n have_v not_o be_v preach_v to_o they_o convenient_o nor_o godly_o the_o which_o how_o true_a it_o be_v you_o may_v perceive_v by_o that_o which_o follow_v concern_v the_o prodigious_a cruelty_n of_o the_o spaniard_n and_o impious_a behaviour_n of_o the_o priest_n in_o those_o country_n ever_o since_o their_o first_o
he_o they_o believe_v nothing_o but_o mock_v at_o all_o that_o be_v show_v they_o of_o god_n be_v root_v in_o this_o opinion_n touch_v our_o god_n that_o he_o be_v the_o worst_a and_o most_o unjust_a and_o wicked_a of_o all_o god_n because_o he_o have_v such_o servant_n and_o 15._o and_o pag._n 15._o he_o tell_v of_o a_o prince_n in_o the_o isle_n of_o cuba_n who_o call_v his_o people_n together_o show_v they_o a_o casket_n full_a of_o gold_n and_o jewel_n and_o tell_v they_o it_o be_v the_o spaniard_n god_n and_o after_o they_o have_v dance_v a_o while_n about_o it_o he_o throw_v it_o into_o a_o river_n because_o say_v he_o if_o they_o once_o get_v he_o from_o we_o they_o will_v kill_v we_o this_o man_n be_v afterward_o take_v by_o they_o and_o burn_v quick_a who_o be_v fasten_v to_o the_o stake_n a_o friar_n come_v to_o he_o and_o tell_v he_o of_o god_n and_o the_o matter_n of_o our_o faith_n the_o which_o if_o he_o will_v beleeeve_v he_o may_v go_v to_o heaven_n if_o not_o he_o must_v go_v to_o hell_n there_o to_o be_v torment_v for_o ever_o the_o prince_n after_o a_o little_a pause_n ask_v the_o friar_n if_o the_o spaniard_n go_v to_o heaven_n who_o answer_v yea_o they_o do_v the_o prince_n answer_v again_o without_o any_o further_a deliberation_n that_o then_o he_o will_v not_o go_v to_o heaven_n but_o to_o hell_n where_o he_o may_v once_o be_v free_a from_o that_o cruel_a nation_n 10_o all_o this_o and_o much_o more_o write_v bartolomaeus_n casas_n protest_v oftentimes_o over_o that_o he_o set_v not_o down_o the_o thousand_o part_n of_o the_o cruelty_n use_v and_o we_o be_v enforce_v to_o believe_v it_o because_o we_o read_v the_o like_a in_o diverse_a other_o that_o have_v write_v of_o the_o discovery_n and_o conquest_n of_o those_o nation_n and_o the_o best_a friend_n the_o pope_n have_v have_v have_v complain_v of_o it_o victoria_n read_v in_o the_o school_n 5._o school_n relect._n 5._o say_v we_o hear_v of_o many_o harmless_a people_n murder_v and_o spoil_v &_o many_o lord_n thrust_v out_o of_o their_o possession_n and_o deprive_v of_o their_o territory_n the_o like_a be_v note_v by_o other_o and_o the_o priest_n and_o friar_n be_v charge_v to_o be_v both_o accessary_a and_o principal_n in_o it_o and_o the_o matter_n contain_v in_o the_o priest_n indian_a letter_n touch_v their_o miracle_n and_o holiness_n be_v but_o fiction_n spread_v abroad_o to_o ward_v off_o this_o infamy_n the_o which_o if_o it_o be_v unjust_o lay_v upon_o they_o let_v they_o not_o blame_v i_o but_o their_o own_o writer_n who_o protest_v they_o see_v it_o and_o who_o narration_n i_o have_v only_o relate_v be_v ready_a to_o show_v ten_o time_n as_o much_o out_o of_o other_o author_n likewise_o as_o occasion_n shall_v serve_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o make_v this_o use_n of_o it_o that_o when_o i_o read_v our_o adversary_n importunate_a brag_n of_o their_o 9_o their_o possevin_n bibl_n select_v l._n 9_o c_o 9_o catechise_n the_o indies_n and_o baptise_v they_o such_o as_o this_o be_v 1565._o be_v sur._n come_v ann_n 1565._o many_o of_o the_o isle_n and_o country_n of_o the_o indies_n greedy_o embrace_v the_o faith_n and_o oftentimes_o whole_a city_n be_v baptize_v 15000._o convert_v to_o christin_n one_o week_n to_o think_v they_o have_v learn_v the_o lesson_n which_o thales_n milesius_n teach_v a_o adulterer_n to_o forswear_v the_o adultery_n when_o he_o have_v commit_v it_o 〈◊〉_d it_o diog._n laert._n lib._n 1._o in_o thalet_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o say_v he_o the_o perjury_n be_v no_o worse_a than_o the_o adultery_n so_o think_v our_o adversary_n that_o they_o may_v bold_o forswear_v their_o cruelty_n and_o bloodshed_n commit_v among_o the_o indies_n because_o the_o perjury_n and_o forgery_n whereby_o they_o deny_v it_o be_v no_o worse_a than_o the_o murder_n but_o this_o be_v a_o desperate_a shift_n §_o 50._o last_o let_v they_o show_v some_o space_n of_o time_n in_o which_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o since_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n or_o in_o which_o be_v be_v not_o visible_a and_o know_v as_o we_o can_v show_v they_o many_o hundred_o year_n in_o which_o they_o be_v not_o or_o else_o at_o least_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n be_v not_o visible_a as_o i_o prove_v christ_n true_a church_n must_v always_o be_v let_v they_o show_v when_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o ancient_a faith_n in_o any_o substantial_a point_n do_v fail_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o when_o and_o by_o who_o the_o profession_n of_o a_o new_a faith_n begin_v in_o it_o as_o we_o can_v show_v when_o and_o by_o who_o this_o new_a faith_n of_o other_o begin_v certain_a it_o be_v that_o once_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o be_v the_o true_a church_n to_o wit_n when_o s._n paul_n say_v to_o they_o vestra_fw-la fides_fw-la annuntiatur_fw-la in_o universo_fw-la orbe_fw-la rom._n 1._o your_o faith_n be_v renown_v in_o the_o whole_a world_n but_o when_o as_o the_o learned_a and_o glorious_a martyr_n campian_n in_o rationibus_fw-la redditis_fw-la academicis_fw-la ratione_fw-la septima_fw-la urge_v when_o i_o say_v do_v rome_n change_v the_o belief_n and_o profession_n of_o faith_n so_o renown_v which_o once_o it_o have_v quo_fw-la tempore_fw-la quo_fw-la pontifice_fw-la qua_fw-la via_fw-la qua_fw-la vi_fw-la quibus_fw-la incrementis_fw-la urbem_fw-la &_o orbem_fw-la religio_fw-la pervasit_fw-la aliena_fw-la quas_fw-la voces_fw-la quas_fw-la turbas_fw-la quae_fw-la lamenta_fw-la progenuit_fw-la omnes_fw-la orbe_fw-la reliquo_fw-la fopiti_fw-la sunt_fw-la dum_fw-la roma_fw-la roma_fw-la inquam_fw-la nova_fw-la sacramentae_fw-la nowm_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la nowm_fw-la religionis_fw-la dogma_fw-la procuderet_fw-la nullus_fw-la extitit_fw-la historicus_fw-la neque_fw-la latinus_n neque_fw-la graecus_n neque_fw-la remotus_fw-la neque_fw-la citimus_fw-la qui_fw-la rem_fw-la tantam_fw-la vel_fw-la obscure_a iaceret_fw-la in_o commentarios_fw-la at_o what_o time_n underwhat_o pope_n what_o way_n with_o what_o force_n with_o what_o augmentation_n or_o increase_n do_v a_o strange_a religion_n overflow_v the_o city_n and_o the_o whole_a world_n what_o speech_n what_o rumour_n what_o tumult_n what_o trouble_n what_o lamentation_n at_o least_o do_v it_o breed_v be_v all_o the_o world_n asleep_a when_o rome_n rome_n i_o say_v the_o imperial_a and_o mother_n city_n do_v coin_n new_a sacrament_n a_o new_a sacrifice_n a_o new_a doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n be_v there_o no_o historiographer_n neither_o latin_a nor_o greek_a neither_o far_o off_o nor_o near_a who_o will_v at_o least_o obscure_o cast_v into_o his_o commentary_n such_o a_o matter_n as_o this_o be_v certain_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o if_o such_o a_o thing_n have_v happen_v but_o it_o shall_v have_v be_v resist_v or_o at_o the_o least_o record_v by_o some_o for_o suppose_v it_o be_v true_a which_o the_o protestant_n imagine_v that_o some_o point_n of_o that_o religion_n which_o rome_n hold_v at_o this_o day_n be_v as_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o be_v in_o it_o when_o s._n paul_n commend_v the_o roman_a faith_n as_o white_a be_v to_o black_a light_a to_o darkness_n or_o so_o absurd_a as_o be_v now_o adays_o judaisme_n or_o paganism_n or_o as_o holinshead_n say_v it_o be_v the_o bring_v they_o out_o of_o god_n blessing_n into_o the_o warm_a sun_n holinsh_fw-mi descript_n britan._n fol._n 11._o then_o i_o demand_v if_o it_o be_v now_o possible_a that_o any_o prince_n in_o any_o christian_a city_n much_o more_o the_o pope_n in_o rome_n the_o mother_n city_n can_v at_o this_o day_n bring_v in_o any_o notable_a absurd_a rite_n or_o form_n of_o jewish_a or_o paganish_a religion_n for_o example_n to_o offer_v up_o a_o ox_n in_o sacrifice_n or_o to_o worship_v a_o cow_n as_o god_n and_o not_o to_o practice_v it_o private_o in_o his_o own_o chapel_n but_o to_o get_v it_o public_o preach_v and_o practise_v in_o all_o church_n not_o only_o of_o rome_n but_o of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o that_o none_o shall_v in_o christian_a zeal_n oppose_v themselves_o no_o bishop_n preach_v no_o doctor_n write_v against_o this_o horrible_a innovation_n of_o faith_n nor_o the_o author_n thereof_o that_o none_o shall_v have_v that_o christian_a constancy_n which_o have_v be_v always_o see_v when_o any_o persecution_n be_v to_o suffer_v martyrdom_n in_o defence_n of_o their_o ancient_a faith_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v never_o a_o true_a hearty_a christian_n that_o will_v lament_v it_o none_o that_o will_v speak_v of_o it_o no_o historiographer_n that_o will_v at_o least_o make_v some_o obscure_a mention_n of_o it_o can_v all_o be_v so_o asleep_a that_o they_o can_v not_o note_v it_o or_o so_o cold_a and_o negligent_a of_o their_o soul_n good_a as_o general_o without_o any_o care_n to_o yield_v to_o it_o no_o certain_o though_o there_o be_v no_o promise_n to_o the_o church_n