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A39281 S. Austin imitated, or, Retractions and repentings in reference unto the late civil and ecclesiastical changes in this nation by John Ellis. Ellis, John, 1606?-1681. 1662 (1662) Wing E590; ESTC R24312 304,032 419

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Christian Churches asserted in Answer to Mr. Hudson I may add this caution That for substance they are both of them Orthodox and useful and such in the composing whereof industry was used somewhat more than ordinary A few passages at the latter end of the Sermon in reference of the defence of the War against the King I do here retract And though I suppose I have evinced in the other Tractate that there is no Catholick or universal visible Governing Church and so laid ground for the Independency of the Church of England and other National Christian Churches yet that new practised Independency beginning at Separation and collecting themselves thence into small bodies and afterward assuming a right of non-subjection to any Juridical Superior Power Ecclesiastical I do also recal by these presents and retract CHAP. IV. The Causes of the Authors falling and first the Negative and such as were not AS in the Creation Gen. 1. Negations did precede the formation of things darkness before light and emptiness before repletion And as in Procreation privation goeth before So the Apostle writing to the Churches 1 Thess 2.3 begins at Negatives and what were not the causes of his preaching Our exhortation saith he was not of deceit nor guile Give me leave therefore to imitate both Nature and Religion here and to represent what were not the motives of my falling Lest any man should think that corrupt designments either in respect of persons or of things have tempted me And first for persons both those I have departed from as also those I now adhere unto No personal offence at the one or flattering notion of the other have at all provok'd me Neither despair of gaining by those now gone nor hope of vintage by these rising Luminaries do attract or draw me For I do not now begin my Retractations having then published them as we saw above when neither clowd from heaven nor vapour from the earth did seem to promise any shower of blessing When neither Sun nor Moon nor Star appeared but all hope that we should be saved was even vanished Sect. 1. Neither distaste of nor affection unto persons And first for persons To which I shall the rather speak because there is danger of falling into Scylla whilst we would avoid Charybdis and that a * Matth. 23.18 Proselyte may by Pharisaism and hypocrisie become two-fold more the child of hell than he was by profaneness Therefore that I may not seem to commit the same error against some now that was admitted against others before I shall represent my spirit and opinion touching persons of the side I have deserted and then of those whom in these cases I return unto Matth. 5. 1 Pet. 2.17 Gal. 6. First We are obliged to love and honor all men though especially the houshold of faith St. Austin not onely styles the persons he wrote against or had departed from sometimes * Dominis praedicalibus dilectissimis fratribus medaurensib ep 42. Dilect●ssimo fratri vinientio epist 48. honored or reverend or beloved brethren but also expresses his ' spirit toward them which I desire may be mine also in reference unto those I have now reflected on Illi in vos saeviant qui nesciunt cum quo labore verum inveniatur quam difficile caveantur errores Illi in vos saeviant qui nesciunt quàm rarum arduum sit carnalia phantasmata piae mentis serenitare superare Illi in vos saeviant qui nesciunt cum quantâ difficultate sanatur oculus interioris hominis ut possit intueri solem Illi in vos saeviant qui nesciunt quibus suspiriis gemitibus fiat ut ex quantacunque parte possit intelligi Deus Aug. contr epist q. voc Fundam cap. 2. Pastrento illi in vos saeviant qui nullo tali errore decepti sunt quali vos deceptos vident Ego saevire in vos omnino non possunt quos sicut meipsum illo tempore ita nunc debeo sustinere tanta patientiâ vobiscum agere quantae mecum egerunt proximi mei cum in vestro dogmate caecus errarem Let them saith he rage against you who do not know with what labour truth is found 1. The difficulty of Truth and how difficult it is to avoid errors Let them rage against you who know not how rare and hard a thing it is to scatter fleshly fancies by the light of a pious heart Let them rage against you who understand not how choice a thing it is so to cure the eye of the inward man that it may be able to behold the Sun Let them rage against you who know not with what sighs and groans it is effected that even the back-parts of God may be known Lastly Let them rage against you who have not been deceived with any such error as they see you to be deceived with For my self I can by no means be violent against you he means their persons and the persons of those that were not turbulent whom I ought now to bear as I did then my self and to deal with you in the same degree of patience that my friends did with me when I blindly wandred in your opinions 2. Besides the persons and worth of some 2. The worth and unworthiness of persons on both sides R. Hooker presat ad Pol. Eccles n. 2. from whom I now decline challengeth all due respect and some of those whom I now adhere unto as little We should be injurious to vertue it self saith Mr. Hooker if we did derogate from them whom their industry hath made great Bucer acknowledgeth both the usefulness of the labours even of the very Heathens toward Religion and highly predicates the Religion and piety of some of them Neminem verò offendat Bucer in Joh. 4.31 c. quòd Philosophorum laborem profuisse ad Evangelium puto omnis enim veritas à Deo est veritas sanè plurima in scriptis Philosophorum Poetarum legitur Jam quantulumcumque id fuerit quod de veritate Philosophi tradiderunt ad Deum certè animos hominum attraxerunt eosque ad Evangelium praepararunt sed quid opus est verbis Qui vel non in Cicerone Cicero miram Dei solidaeque pietatis cognitionem agnoscit eum necesse est ignorare quid sit Deus pietas Let no man saith he be offended that I judge the labours of the Philosophers to have been useful unto the Gospel for all truth is of God and verily there are many truths in the writings of the Philosophers and of the Poets Now how little soever it were of truth that they delivered surely it drew the minds of men unto God and by that did prepare them unto the Gospel But what need words he that doth not acknowledge even in Cicero a wonderful knowledge of God and of sound he meaneth serious not saving piety it must needs be that he knoweth neither what God nor piety
1● Quis non his pollicitationibus non alliceretur praesertim adolescentis animus cupidus veri Who would not have been inveigled with these promises especially the mind of a young man thirsty for truth As Austin once of himself in refeference unto the Manichees SECT IV. Of the Contents of Independency and in particular of the second and third of them viz. congregation and non subjection The Ingredients of Indep coll g ble out of the Apologetic Narration of the 5. Br. BUt to come neerer and to particulars There are three things in Independency especially First separation viz. from full and constant fellowship and communion with the Parochial Assemblies Secondly Congregation or collecting and constituting themselves into another body Lastly Independency and assuming or usurping of intire Ecclesiastical power into that body so as to be judicially and of right subject unto none other which is the esse and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of Independency Of the two latter viz. Congregation and non subjection I shall speak here because I shall have occasion of much more large Discourse about the former namely separation And now for the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and that they do so congregate that is visible for they do by a certain covenant constitute themselves into a distinct body And that they arrogate an Independency also Apologet. Narrat pag. 23. although in words they reject the name saying That proud and insolent title of Independency was affixed unto us yet in as much as they do in terminis affirm first that any other particular Church hath only power to declare non communion with an offending Church pag. 19. Secondly that a Classis or combination of Churches have no juridical power over any particular one Pag. 15. pag. 17. Thirdly that the Magistrates power is of another nature though of use over the Church doth it not follow They also rightly denying a Catholick visible Church unavoidably that as a Church and as to Ecclesiastical jurisdiction they depend on none and therefore are Independent That therefore such they are as to congregating and Independing is beyond all contradiction Now then for the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and their grounds why they are so to shew the unsufficiency of them or which is all one that they ought not so to do is the next thing to be evidenced And 't is not so hard nor needs so long a proof if we consider their own grounds already yeilded and the unlawfulness of separation which shall the Lord assisting be cleared in the consequent and which themselves also seem to damn For we had likewise the fatal miscarriages and shipw●a●ks of the separation say they as Land-marks to forewarn us of those rocks and shelves they ran upon Apologetic Narrat pag. 5. And would God it had done it for the Independents have split upon the very same divisions First then for their concessions If it be true that all that conscience of the defilements say they we conceived to cleave to the true worship of God in them pag. 6. Concessions of Independents against Independency or of the unwarranted power in Church Governours exercised therein did never work in us any other thought much less opinion but that multitudes of the Assemblies and Parochial Congregations thereof were the true Churches and body of Christ and the Ministry thereof a true Ministry Then doubtless first their habitual Separation from such though in some acts rarely they did communicate with some of them was ipso facto unlawful and a Schisme evident This the foundation falling their superstructure of congregating into a body and binding themselves to that society which implies a constant renunciation of the former Churches is as drunkenness to thirst and their arrogating of a self-sufficient and independent power is as the fastening their iniquity with cords of vanity So that there seems no more needful for this place then that ex ore tuo serve nequam Matth. 25. out of thy own mouth thou shalt be judged Dost thou confess that notwithstanding any defilements in the worship any usurpation in the Church-Governours any pag. 6. mixture in the Congregations that yet multitudes of them were the true Churches and body of Christ and wilt thou separate thy self constantly and draw others from the true body of Christ Joh. 15. Are not the branches when broken off from the true Vine cut off from the * Quicquid à matrice discesserit seorsim vivere spirari non poterit substantian salutis amittit Cypr. de Simplic prolator p. edit Erasm 1520. 173. juice sap and life of the tree must they not needs wither and in the end be gathered to be burned I end this with that knock of the Hammer of this headless Schism for they are Independent St. Austin Hoc ergo Ticho●ius cùm vehementer copioseque dissereret ora contradicentium multis magnis ac manifestis sanctarum scripturarum testimoniis oppilaret non vidit quod consequenter videndum fuit Parmenianus autem ceterique Donatistae viderunt hoc esse consequens maluerunt suscipere obstinatissimum animum adversus apertissimam veritatem quam eâ concessâ superari ab Africanus Ecclesiis Aug. contr Ep. Parm. l. 1. c. 1. Independents This that the Church was not in Africk onely 1. their Inconsiderateness but diffused through the whole world when as Ticonius had earnestly and copiously discoursed and by many weighty and evident arguments of the holy Scriptures stopt the mouthes of the gain-sayers yet did not see that which by consequence did clearly follow 2. Or their Obstinacy On the other side Parmenian and the rest of the Donatists the separation saw the consequence and would rather assume a most stubborn resolution against manifest truth than by yielding to it be overcome of the African I may add in reference to those we speak of the English Churches But secondly toward satisfaction unto others if not to them What kind of Independency is here condemned I must explain my self All Independency of Churches is not denyed For then we must condemn the Church of England and other reformed who do not act as acknowledging any superior body on whom they do depend But according to the confession of this Church every particular or National Church Artic. 34. hath authority to ordain change and abolish Ceremonies or rites of the Church ordain'd onely by mans authority so that all things be done to edifying So Article 57 The Queens Majesty hath the chief power unto whom the chief government of all estates of of this Realm in all causes doth appertain and ought not to be subject to any foreign jurisdiction It speaks of causes Ecclesiastical Vindiciae Catholicae or the Rights of particular Christian Churches asserted Which kind of Independency I have elsewhere sufficiently if I mistake not vindicated But the Independency here opposed is that whereby Christians being before incorporated as members into Congregations such as themselves also acknowledged to be true Christian Churches and
bodies of Christ do read off themselves and incorporate into new ones of their own for the most part small and inconsiderable For the detecting further of which error we are to note one or two particulars First Ecclesiastical power may be lost we must distinguish between the original state of a Church as it might be at its first collection and the after-condition of it and present being When it was first gathered it might be free as was the family of Jethro Numb 10. but not so afterward when incorporated with another Church All the several Heptarchies in this Nation and many Provinces else-where were once free and Independent doth it follow they must be so still or rend themselves from the Kingdom if they could to be so again By this the 120 names that were the Church in the beginning should still have assumed their first liberty Act. 1. For we must note that Ecclesiastical power is as well disseasable as civil and may be lost so as it is not lawful to resume it and that not only by a voluntary concession or providential falling in with other Christians or Churches but even by force also As if by publick Edict two or more Churches should be constrained to unite into one As in England all the Christians in one Parish are made members of that Church and all the Parishes of that Diocess one Diocesan Church and all the Diocesan Churches one Metropolitical from whence they are aggregated yea incorporated into one National Church Now being thus joyned together by God and good order it is not lawful for themselves again to put assunder This is one of their fundamental errors A fundamental error of Independency to fancy a reducement of the Churches to their first infancy Why attempt they not the same in civil Societies Common-wealths and Kingdoms yea and families also there is the like reason rule and example for the one as for the other The strange consequences of it And so this flabel of Schism in the Church shall also be the bellows of Sedition in the Common-wealth For if Ecclesiastical original right of liberty and independency cannot be taken away neither can Civil and then the with-holding it is but usurpation no title Conference at Hamp Court pag. 82. 1 King 12. and then as there must be no Bishop so no c. King James his inference To conclude Look what right the ten Tribes of Israel had to separate from the Church of their brethren and to congregate and incorporate into one of their own and to make themselves Independent from any other the same have these Brethren Neither do they seem to have any better if so good for there was an appearing divine approbation of their recess from the Kingdom of Judah and their own reason prompted them to think that this must imply a withdrawing from the Church also Now that they became Idolaters first that was accidental Again they went not so far Ezek 16. as utterly to non-Church themselves for God did still acknowledge them for his people Thirdly the occasion of their separation seems to be more just from the Church than the Common-wealth 1 King 11. and 12. for by Solomon's apostacy it was fill'd with all manner of Idolatries Lastly some of those that have begun at Independency have proceeded as far in re and deed if not farther than they For they have apostatized from all communion with our Churches or any Reformed from thence to Anabaptism from that to Quaking and so not onely denying the Lord that bought them Jude vers 5. as the Apostle speaks but also the whole Scripture and are become worse some of them than Infidels and Idolaters even plain Atheists Whereof perhaps some instances and examples of this kind might be given if it were requisite to name places and persons By which things and through their ho●rid shipwracks by sub-divisions providence asketh the question now as it did once in another case of Apostacy from the Church and their unsuccessfulness thereupon Jer. 2.17 Hast thou not procured this unto thy self in that thou hast forsaken the Lord And Is it not of the Lord that the people weary themselves in the fire for very vanity And in them is fulfilled that They bite and devour one another Gal. 5. till they be consumed one of another And as he said of such Christians of old Nullae tam infestae hominibus bestiae Am. Marcell ut sunt sibi ferales plerique Christiani There are no beasts unto man so mortal enemies as are most of that sort of Christians implacable one unto another I conclude this with that of the Father concerning their Ancestors Sic sic necesse est ut minutatim secti conscissique despereant Aug. contr Epist Parmen lib. 1. cap. 4. in fine qui surorem animositatis suae Catholicae pacis sanctissimo vinculo praetulerunt So so is it just that they should crumbling and cut in mamocks perish and come to nothing who have before the most holy band of the Churches general peace preferred the swelling of their own high stomachs Which leads me to the first point of Independency but last to be spoken to viz. Separation CHAP. II. Of the grounds of Separation with an Examination and Refutation of them And first in general TOuching Separation I shall speak first in general 1. In general and then descend to some more special causes of it In general thus It hath in it The evil of separation of all the three ingredients of Independency the most malignity not onely as it ariseth from pride scorn and hypocrisie the Sal sulphur and Mercury of this subterraneous body but especially because it suggests unto the hearts of the common people that most horrid temptation that they are not in a way of life and wherein they may be saved This provoked the Apostle so in the like case 2 Cor. 5.13 Gal. 1.8 9. chap. 5.12 that they thought he was besides himself And to curse the Authors of Schism and wish they were cut off To declame against them as those that served their own bellies Rom. 16.17 2 Cor. 11. As false Apostles and ministers of Sathan Yea our Saviour upon this ground of separation and scattering of the flock calls them wolves in sheeps cloathing Matth. 7. Joh. 2. 1 Tim. 6. and thieves and robbers The Apostle else-where that they are proud knowing nothing doting about questions and strife of words that they count gain godliness and that the root of all this evil is pride How we may know when Separation evil Eph. 4. and the love of mony which is covetousness That where there is professed one God one faith one baptism one Lord one Spirit c. those that perswade separation from such are cunning and crafty men that lie in wait to deceive with several other the like 〈◊〉
of that Church challenging them all John 8.46 exp if they could tax him of sin that is of failing in any duty that he owed to the Church as well as other things which they would have readily done had he failed We have besides this his Precepts and Directions in this very case That namely where the peril is Mat. 13.37 c. that the Corn should be plucked up it is his will that the tares should rather be suffered to grow until the Harvest which himself expounds to be at the end of the World which place is with more mirth Apolog. cap. 12. p. m. 90. than either strength or modesty derided by Mr. Robinson in his Defence of Separation Object 1 For although it be said The field is the World yet it is onely the World where the Gospel is published Resp and where the Corn and Cocle grow together as those that are generated by the Word Vers 47. as evidently appears by the Parable of the Draw-net which is said expressy to gather both good and bad and that the Separation should be made at the end of the World Again when he saith That that Particle Suffer them to grow till the Harvest Object 2 is not repeated in the expounding of that Parable of the Tares by our Saviour Resp it is answered That it is impliedly repeated and expounded in that he saith The Harvest is the end of the World having said before that the Tares if the Wheat be in peril by their plucking up should be suffered till then there was therefore no necessity of repeating that Particle Object 3 That he saith The Text it self and Reason sheweth that he speaketh not of Excommunication but of final rooting out unto perdition Resp This is begged not proved nor can be granted For it is a general expression and may include all cutting off in such case either in this World or at the end of it Lastly whereas he saith Object 4 Though that should be granted yet the very Constitution of our Assemblies which he makes the ground of all others the corruptions in them being naught Resp because the Members were constrained by Laws whether they were good or bad willing or nilling to embrace the Gospel and that therefore this Parable is not applicable to them SECT II. Causes constitutive of the Church of England WE reply That whereas unto the constitution of any thing in its proper Being there is required onely two things first right matter and secondly the due form And the matter of the Church being indeed as he cryeth A holy people Rom. Corinth Galat. and sanctified in Christ Jesus as by the Titles and Directions of the Apostolical Epistles and otherwise doth appear The Form also being a profession of repentance and faith or the Covenant of Grace in Christ Jesus owned and an association thereby in the Society of Saints Robins ubi supra p. 81. The Church of England will appear a sound Church in both and not to be separated from First 1. Matter of the Church of England for the matter of the Church A holy people and sanctified in Christ Jesus or visible Saints We must here premise a twofold distinction First of the Church which is either mystical or visible then of Saints which are either real or appearing Now the matter of these Churches are correspondent to the nature of them The members of the Church mystical are real Saints onely the members of the visible are Saints visible Now a person visible in any profession A visible Professor is he who understandeth the general grounds of it owneth them and acteth accordingly nor doth any thing whereby the main of that Profession is overthrown Now the people of the Church of England do generally know the grounds of the Faith expressed in the Creed and expounded in the Catechism which the Church appoints to be taught to all before they come to the Communion and to be professed by them Next they own this Profession And they neither in opinion nor practice do that which necessarily overturneth this Profession generally though in many things they and we as Saint James speaks offend all James 3. And this Principle is owned by other Reformed Churches Epist 284. pag. 322. edit 2. The Church of Geneva and Calvin among them doth acknowledge That forasmuch as men remain in the visible Church till they utterly renounce the Profession of Christianity Church of Geneva's Judgement in this point we may not deny unto Infants their right by withholding from them the publick sign of holy Baptism if they be born where the outward acknowledgement of Christianity is not clean gone and extinguished Vbicunque non prorsus intereidit vel extincta fuit Christianismi professio fraudantur jure suo Infantes si à communi symbolo arcentur And this also is acknowledged in practice even by the Belgick Churches Apol. cap. 12. Belgick Christian Church Judgement also which Mr. Robinson so predicates for the liberty they have for they also Baptize the Infants of all which surely they could not do if they judged not their Parents matter of the visible Church and Saints by calling in respect of their outward profession The general Profession of a Jew though he should do some things contrary and of a Turk and the partaking of those signs and symbols which are notes of that Profession doth constitute them such Our people therefore owning the Christian Faith and partaking of the Ordinances and living visibly under them and not living so as if they did beleeve nothing of their profession though failing much doth constitute them visible Saints and the matter of a Church If any be very exorbitant the Discipline of the Church and the Laws of the Nation which are a part of christian Discipline are to reform him 2. Form of the Church of England constitutive Next for the Form The profession of Faith and Repentance and formal covenanting We are here to note That there is a formal and a virtual Covenanting or rather a Covenanting immediately in our own person or by a Deputy as in Law a man may answer by his Attorney So all the Churches of England do formally make Profession of their Faith and Repentance and enter into Covenant at their Baptism and do personally repeat it themselves in the rendering account of their Catechism at confirmation and before the Lords Supper which is the express Injunction of the Church Rubrick after Confirmation if it be neglected this is not to be imputed to the Church though indeed for substance it is not neglected neither are any usually admitted to the Holy Communion but such as give an account of their faith and are not scandalous in their lives As for the Objection That they were forced to this Object 1 by the Law at the Reformation We are to consider ibid. Answ 1 First Forcing to Religion That Christianity was received voluntarily in
palinodiam ut dicitur cane incomparabiliter enim pulchrior est veritas Christianorum quam Helena Graecorum pro quâ mille Heroes adversus Trojam dimicarunt I beseech thee saith he take resolute hold upon an ingenuous and true Christian severity joined with charity for the correcting and amending of that work and sing a palinody or peccavi for more beautiful incomparably is the truth of Christians then the Helen of the Grecians for whom thousands of gallant men fought at Troy S. Jerome also unto whom one while Erasm gives the primacy next the Scripture S. Hierom. Ep. Ded. operib Hierom. 1516. Ep. Ded. operib Cyp● 1520. though afterward he renders it to Cyprian in neither with too much judgement if that Epistle be his which is Ep. 8. Tom. 4. Edit 1533. Paris But in the latter Editions it is the eighth of the ninth Tome Hierome I say hath this religious sentence and gives us a fundamental reason and his own example for this practice where there is just occasion viz. Dicat unusquisque quod velit ego interim de me pro sensus mei parvitate judicavi meliùs esse confundi coram peccatoribus super terram quàm coram Sanctis Angelis in coelo vel ubicunque judicium suum Dominus voluerit demonstrare That is Let every man say what he pleaseth for my part I have according to my small judgement determined that it is better to take shame to wit by acknowledgement of our errours before sinners on earth then before the holy Angels in heaven or wheresoever the Lord shall appear in Judgement Thus farre he In these latter times greater men of the Reformation after Luther then Bucer and Calvin Modern Examples we have not The commendation of the first we have from the q] Calv. Epist Ded. ante com in ep ad Rom. S. Grynaeo latter in these words siquidem vir ille ut nosti praeter reconditam eruditionem copiosamque multarum rerum scientiam praeter ingenii perspicaciam multam lectionem aliasque multas ac varias virtutes quibus à nemine hodiè ferè vincitur cum paucis est conferendus plurimis antecellit hanc sibi propriam laudem habet quòd nullus hac memoriâ exactiore diligentiâ in Scripture interpretatione versatus est That man saith Calvin speaking of Bucer Bucer as thou knowest hath besides abstruse Learning rarity of knowledge sharp wit much reading and many other vertues wherein he is excelled almost by no man in our time can be compared but with few and exceedeth the most hath this peculiar commendation besides that no man in our memory hath with more exact diligence travelled in the Exposition of Scripture The superlative encomium of Calvin himself is rendred by one who in all things understood well what he said and was not a man that knew how to flatter especially not him against whom he wrote in point of Discipline namely the incomparable Hooker as he is commonly and deservedly styled r] Hook Eccles Polit. in Prafat Sect. 2. For mine own part saith he I think him incomparably the wisest man that ever the French Church did enjoy since the houre that it enjoyed him Calvin And again Though thousands were beholding to him yet he to none but only to God the Authour of that most blessed Fountain the Book of Life and of the admirable dexterity of wit together with the helps of other Learning which were his guides Again two things of principal moment there are which have deservedly procured him honour throughout the world the one his exceeding great pains in composing the Institutions of Christian Religion His Institutions His Commentaries the other his no less industrious travel for Exposition of Scripture according to the same Institutions Now both these Authours as indeed all others have had their water to their wine as s] D. George Abbot L. Archbishop of Cant. my honorable Lord and Master a great and grave Prelate of this Church would say t] Bucer praesat dedic D. Foxio Ep. Hereford prefix Comment suis in 4 Evangel Bucer relates his former doctrine touching the Sacrament of the Lords Supper and his retracting of it again and closes the Discourse with these words Habet R. P. T. quicunque haec legent ut in contentione Sacramentorum pertractus sim in eâ me gesserim ab eâ Domini ope ereptus sim quaeque ratio sit consilii mei quae causa quod retractare in animum induxi c. Thus have I given saith he your Reverend Fatherhood an account and all other men that shall read these writings how I was wound into these Controversies about the Sacraments How I carryed my self in it and how the Lord assisting I was delivered out of it and upon what grounds and reasons I was induced to retract Which retractation was almost followed with a tretractation as I may so speak for u] Bucer Zanchy hath touching it these words Bucerus post illam retractationem v] Defens Admon Neostadian in ipso sine Tom. 8. in posterioribus scriptis clariùs se explicans idem docuit quod nos de corpore Christi déque illius praesentiâ That is Vid. Scripta ejus Anglican Bucer after that retractation in his latter writings explaining himself more fully taught the same thing concerning the Body of Christ and his Presence that we do Thus far of him Touching Calvin although x] Beza in vita Calv. prope finem Beza in the Narrative of his life saith Calvin In doctrinâ quam initio tradidit ad extremum constans nihil prorsus immutavit quod paucis nostrâ memoriâ contigit That in the Doctrine which he first delivered he was constant to the end and altered nothing a priviledge saith he that hath happened but to few Divines in our time Howsoever this were so in Doctrine although some few things not of the greatest moment might have admitted of farther consideration yet in a point of Government in the Church of Geneva you may read him deeply retracting Epist S. Grynaei Calvino Fac esse quòd tuâ unius gravissimâ culpâ res Christi sic labefactatae sunt Genevae That is z] Calv. Epist edit 2. Sanctandr p. 364. Grant that by your most hainous fault alone the affairs of Christ are so ruined at Geneva for so Calvin had bewailed to Farel in an Epistle yet in this want of Ministers you ought not to lie still whilest any place though never so small is offered Calvins Calvin own words unto Farel are Siquidem ut coram Deo populo ejus fateamur imperitia socordia negligentia errore nostri factum ex parte esse ut Ecclesia vobis commissa tam miserè collopsa sit dignam fuisse nostram hinc inscitiam hinc incuriam quae tali exemplo castigaretur culpâ nostrâ corruisse miseram illam Ecclesiam nunquam sum concessurus a] Calv. Epist to Farel Ann.