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first_o reformer_n but_o what_o they_o receive_v from_o rom._n cath._n bishop_n answer_v p_o 48_o 49_o his_fw-la 2_o q._n who_o authorize_v the_o first_o reformer_n to_o preach_v their_o protestant_a doctrine_n and_o administer_v their_o protestant_a sacrament_n answer_v and_o retort_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n p._n 49_o his_o 3d_o and_o four_o q_o whether_o cranmer_n and_o his_o associate_n can_v condemn_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o mission_n derive_v from_o her_o bishop_n if_o so_o whether_o a_o presbyt_fw-la minister_n have_v receive_v order_n from_o a_o protestant_a bishop_n can_v by_o virtue_n of_o such_o order_n pronounce_v the_o church_n of_o england_n a_o corrupt_a church_n answer_v p_o 50_o 51_o mr._n k_n answer_v examine_v his_o concession_n to_o d._n m._n that_o a_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n ought_v not_o to_o preach_v against_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o and_o if_o he_o be_v censure_v or_o suspend_v he_o be_v discharge_v etc._n etc._n consider_v the_o consequence_n of_o it_o pernicious_a to_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n and_o to_o our_o own_o have_v we_o a_o popish_a convocation_n the_o ground_n of_o it_o absurd_a and_o false_a the_o silence_a nc_n minister_n not_o chargeable_a with_o schism_n or_o church-rebellion_n the_o charge_n more_o likely_a to_o fall_v heavy_a on_o the_o unjust_a silencer_n unless_o mr_n k._n can_v prove_v both_o the_o divine_a right_n of_o the_o convocation_n to_o be_v the_o ecclesiastical_a head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o the_o equity_n of_o their_o silence_v sentence_n from_o p_o 51_o to_o p._n 59_o 5_o q_o whether_o a_o act_n of_o parl_n &c_n &c_n answer_v p_o 59_o 60_o some_o general_a remark_n on_o the_o rest_n of_o mr_n k_n answer_v p._n 60_o 61_o 62_o reflection_n on_o the_o whole_a from_o p_o 62_o to_o the_o end_n a_o postscript_n finis_fw-la errata_fw-la page_n 7_o l_o 21_o r_o arimini_fw-la to_o line_n 24_o 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