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A42758 An assertion of the government of the Church of Scotland in the points of ruling-elders and of the authority of presbyteries and synods with a postscript in answer to a treatise lately published against presbyteriall government. Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1641 (1641) Wing G745; ESTC R16325 120,649 275

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〈…〉_z i●_n be_v certain_a that_o christian_n meet_v together_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d house_n by_o house_n domatius_fw-la act._n 2.46_o both_o these_o consideration_n viz._n the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n in_o one_o city_n and_o their_o assemble_v together_o for_o worship_n in_o private_a house_n have_v also_o place_n in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n 1._o let_v eusebius_n speak_v for_o they_o both_o who_o can_v describe_v say_v he_o those_o innumerable_a heap_n &_o flock_a multitude_n throughout_o all_o city_n and_o famous_a assembly_n frequent_v the_o place_n dedicate_v to_o prayer_n thereafter_o he_o proceed_v to_o show_v how_o in_o aftertime_n by_o the_o favour_n of_o emperor_n christian_n have_v throughout_o all_o city_n ample_a church_n build_v for_o they_o they_o not_o be_v content_v with_o the_o old_a or●toria_n which_o be_v but_o private_a house_n now_o these_o two_o the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n and_o the_o want_n of_o temple_n shall_v abundant_o 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philippi_n or_o from_o ephesus_n be_v undoubted_o write_v very_o late_o after_o the_o plantation_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o corinth_n while_o as_o that_o church_n be_v yet_o in_o her_o infancy_n and_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o at_o that_o time_n the_o whole_a church_n of_o corinth_n may_v and_o do_v meet_v together_o into_o one_o place_n this_o prove_v not_o that_o it_o be_v so_o afterward_o for_o the_o church_n increase_v in_o number_n daily_o act._n 16.5_o but_o 2._o the_o place_n of_o the_o apostle_n prove_v not_o that_o which_o be_v allege_v for_o his_o word_n may_v be_v understand_v in_o sensu_fw-la distributivo_fw-la it_o be_v no_o solecism_n for_o one_o that_o be_v write_v to_o divers_a congregation_n to_o say_v when_o you_o come_v together_o into_o one_o place_n mean_v distributive_o of_o every_o congregation_n not_o collective_o of_o they_o all_o together_o my_o second_o proposition_n concern_v the_o plurality_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n in_o those_o great_a city_n wherein_o the_o apostle_n do_v erect_v christian_a church_n arise_v from_o these_o ground_n 1._o the_o multiplicity_n of_o christian_n 2._o the_o want_n of_o temple_n of_o which_o two_o i_o have_v already_o speak_v 3._o the_o daily_a increase_n of_o the_o church_n to_o a_o great_a number_n act_v 16.5.4_o there_o be_v need_n of_o preacher_n not_o only_o for_o those_o who_o be_v already_o convert_v in_o the_o city_n but_o also_o for_o labour_v to_o win_v the_o unbeliever_n who_o be_v therein_o these_o reason_n may_v make_v we_o conclude_v that_o there_o be_v as_o many_o pastor_n in_o one_o city_n as_o there_o be_v sacred_a meeting_n therein_o and_o some_o more_o also_o for_o the_o respect_n foresay_a and_o what_o will_v you_o say_v if_o we_o find_v example_n of_o this_o plurality_n of_o pastor_n in_o scripture_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n
desideret_fw-la 5._o add_v unto_o these_o a_o distinction_n betwixt_o a_o congregation_n lie_v alone_o in_o a_o island_n province_n or_o nation_n and_o a_o congregation_n border_v with_o sister_n church_n if_o either_o there_o be_v but_o one_o congregation_n in_o a_o kingdom_n or_o province_n or_o if_o there_o be_v many_o far_o distant_a one_o from_o another_o so_o that_o their_o pastor_n and_o elder_n can_v ordinary_o meet_v together_o then_o may_v a_o particular_a congregation_n do_v many_o thing_n by_o itself_o alone_o which_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o do_v where_o there_o be_v adjacent_a neighbour_a congregation_n together_o with_o which_o it_o may_v and_o shall_v have_v a_o common_a presbytery_n 6._o let_v we_o put_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o subordination_n of_o one_o congregation_n to_o another_o or_o of_o over_o eldership_n to_o another_o and_o the_o subordination_n of_o any_o congregation_n and_o of_o the_o eldership_n thereof_o to_o a_o superior_a presbytery_n or_o synod_n make_v out_o of_o many_o congregation_n as_o one_o provincial_a synod_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o another_o provincial_n synod_n yet_o all_o the_o provincial_n synod_n in_o the_o nation_n be_v subject_a 〈◊〉_d the_o national_n synod_n so_o it_o be_v also_o with_o the_o ordinary_a consistory_n one_o particular_a eldership_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o another_o yet_o all_o the_o particular_a eldership_n within_o the_o bound_n of_o the_o common_a presbytery_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o same_o so_o that_o there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n betwixt_o this_o subordination_n which_o we_o maintain_v and_o the_o subordination_n of_o all_o the_o parish_n in_o a_o diocese_n to_o the_o praelate_n and_o his_o cathedral_n where_o douname_n do_v object_n that_o all_o the_o parish_n of_o geneva_n be_v hierarchical_o subject_a to_o the_o presbytery_n in_o the_o city_n parker_n deny_v this_o nisi_fw-la quis_fw-la etc._n etc._n unless_o say_v he_o 23._o peradventure_o one_o may_v be_v subject_a to_o himself_o for_o the_o parish_n each_o for_o their_o own_o part_n and_o that_o alihe_v be_v this_o same_o presbytery_n and_o after_o consistorium_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o the_o consistory_n of_o the_o cathedral_n church_n be_v a_o external_a meeting_n divers_a distinct_a and_o separate_a from_o the_o rural_a church_n which_o be_v no_o part_n thereof_o this_o can_v be_v say_v of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o geneva_n 7._o we_o must_v distinguish_v betwixt_o a_o dependence_n absolute_a and_o in_o some_o respect_n a_o congregation_n do_v absolute_o depend_v upon_o the_o holy_a scripture_n alone_o as_o the_o perfect_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o manner_n of_o worship_n and_o of_o church-government_n for_o we_o accurse_v the_o tyranny_n of_o prelate_n who_o claim_v to_o themselves_o a_o autocratoricke_n power_n over_o congregation_n assemb_v to_o who_o they_o give_v their_o naked_a will_n for_o a_o law_n one_o of_o themselves_o tell_v a_o whole_a synod_n that_o they_o ought_v to_o esteem_v that_o best_a which_o seem_v so_o to_o superior_n and_o that_o this_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o the_o conscience_n for_o obey_v though_o the_o thing_n be_v inconvenient_a we_o say_v that_o congregation_n ought_v indeed_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o presbytery_n and_o synod_n yet_o not_o absolute_o but_o in_o the_o lord_n and_o in_o thing_n lawful_a and_o to_o this_o purpose_n the_o constitution_n of_o presbytery_n and_o synod_n be_v to_o be_v examine_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o christian_a discretion_n for_o a_o synod_n be_v judex_n judicandus_fw-la and_o regula_n regulata_n so_o that_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v blind_o obey_v whether_o the_o ordinance_n be_v convenient_a or_o inconvenient_a last_o of_o all_o we_o be_v to_o distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n before_o the_o division_n of_o parish_n and_o the_o state_n of_o our_o church_n now_o after_o such_o division_n at_o the_o first_o when_o the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n in_o those_o great_a city_n of_o rome_n corinth_n ephesus_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o divide_v into_o several_a parish_n the_o common_a presbytery_n in_o the_o city_n do_v suffice_v for_o the_o government_n of_o the_o whole_a and_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o a_o particular_a consistory_n of_o elder_n for_o every_o assembly_n and_o congregation_n of_o christian_n within_o the_o city_n except_o perhaps_o to_o admonish_v rebuke_n exhort_v or_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v to_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o common_a presbytery_n but_o after_o that_o parish_n be_v divide_v and_o christian_a congregation_n plant_v in_o the_o rural_a village_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o city_n from_o henceforth_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o every_o congregation_n shall_v have_v at_o hand_n within_o itself_o a_o certain_a consistory_n for_o some_o act_n of_o church-government_n though_o still_o those_o of_o great_a importance_n be_v reserve_v to_o the_o great_a presbytery_n and_o thus_o have_v i_o out_o of_o desire_n to_o avoid_v unnecessary_a question_n set_v down_o my_o conception_n concern_v the_o eldership_n of_o particular_a congregation_n and_o the_o power_n of_o the_o same_o if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o i_o seem_v to_o deny_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o the_o same_o or_o that_o they_o have_v any_o warrant_n from_o the_o pattern_n of_o the_o apostolic_a church_n i_o answer_v i_o acknowledge_v the_o conformity_n of_o the_o same_o with_o the_o pattern_n thus_o far_o 1._o it_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v that_o in_o some_o small_a city_n especial_o the_o same_o not_o be_v whole_o convert_v to_o the_o christian_a faith_n there_o be_v but_o one_o christian_a congregation_n the_o eldership_n whereof_o do_v manage_v matter_n of_o jurisdiction_n proper_a thereto_o 2._o even_o in_o the_o great_a city_n at_o the_o first_o there_o be_v but_o one_o congregation_n of_o christian_n and_o so_o but_o one_o particular_a eldership_n 3._o after_o that_o the_o gospel_n have_v spread_v and_o christian_n be_v multiply_v in_o those_o great_a city_n it_o be_v true_a they_o be_v all_o govern_v by_o a_o common_a presbytery_n but_o that_o presbytery_n be_v not_o remote_a but_o ready_a at_o hand_n among_o themselves_o now_o in_o this_o we_o keep_v ourselves_o as_o close_a to_o the_o pattern_n as_o the_o alteration_n of_o the_o church_n condition_n by_o the_o division_n of_o parish_n will_v suffer_v we_o that_o be_v to_o say_v we_o have_v a_o common_a presbytery_n for_o govern_v the_o congregation_n within_o a_o convenient_a circuit_n but_o withal_o our_o congregation_n have_v ad_fw-la manum_fw-la among_o themselves_o a_o inferior_a eldership_n for_o lesser_a act_n of_o government_n though_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o distance_n of_o the_o seat_n of_o the_o common_a presbytery_n from_o sundry_a of_o our_o parish_n they_o can_v not_o have_v that_o ease_n and_o benefit_n of_o nearness_n which_o the_o apostolic_a church_n have_v yet_o by_o the_o particular_a eldership_n they_o have_v as_o great_a ease_n of_o this_o kind_n as_o convenient_o can_v be_v chap._n iii_o of_o great_a presbytery_n which_o some_o call_v class_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d presbytery_n we_o find_v thrice_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n twice_o of_o the_o jewish_a presbytery_n at_o jerusalem_n luke_n 22.66_o act._n 22.5_o and_o once_o of_o the_o christian_a presbytery_n 1._o tim._n 4.14_o neglect_v not_o the_o gift_n that_o be_v in_o thou_o which_o 〈◊〉_d give_v thou_o by_o prophecy_n 1.20_o with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n sutlivius_n and_o douname_n have_v borrow_v from_o bellarmine_n two_o false_a gloss_n upon_o this_o place_n they_o say_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d here_o we_o may_v understand_v either_o a_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n or_o the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n which_o be_v give_v to_o timothy_n 161._o to_o these_o absurdity_n let_v one_o of_o their_o own_o side_n answer_v whereas_o say_v d._n forbesse_n some_o have_v expound_v the_o presbytery_n in_o this_o place_n to_o be_v a_o company_n of_o bishop_n unless_o by_o bishop_n thou_o will_v understand_v simple_a presbyter_n it_o be_v a_o violent_a interpretation_n and_o a_o insolent_a meaning_n and_o whereas_o other_o have_v understand_v the_o degree_n itself_o of_o eldership_n this_o can_v not_o stand_v 1._o for_o the_o degree_n have_v not_o hand_n but_o hand_n be_v mens_fw-la i_o find_v in_o sutlivius_n a_o three_o gloss_n he_o say_v that_o the_o word_n presbytery_n in_o this_o place_n signify_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n non_fw-la juris_fw-la vinculo_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la cunque_fw-la collectos_fw-la inter_fw-la quos_fw-la etiam_fw-la apostoli_fw-la erant_fw-la ans._n 1._o if_o so_o than_o the_o occasional_a meeting_n of_o minister_n be_v it_o in_o a_o journey_n or_o at_o a_o wedding_n or_o a_o burial_n etc._n etc._n shall_v all_o be_v presbytery_n for_o than_o they_o be_v ut_fw-la cunque_fw-la collecti_fw-la 2._o the_o apostle_n do_v put_v the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d better_a order_n then_o to_o leave_v imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o