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A18915 The discription of a true visible Christian right confortable & profitable for all such as are distressed in sowle about present controversies in the churche. Dravven by He. Cl. but published by occasion (as will appeare in the epistle) by Io. I. Clapham, Henoch.; Joope, John. 1599 (1599) STC 5337; ESTC S111143 14,116 32

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THE DISCRIPTION OF A TRVE VISIBLE CHRISTIAN RIGHT CONFORTABLE profitable for all such as are distressed in Sowle about present controversies in the Churche DRAVVEN BY He. C● but published by occasion as will appeare in the Epistle by Io. I. Luke 17. 22. And he sayd vnto the disciples the dayes vvil come vvhen ye shall desire to se one of the dayes of the Son of 23. man ye shall not se it Then they shall say to yovv Behold here or behold there but go not thither neither follovve them Math. 24. 25. Beholde I haue tolde yovv before In the Yeare from Christ his incarnation 1599. To the Christian Reader OUr beloued Brother Mr. He. Cl. after no small trauell he finished a booke contayning fully all poynts of Church-cōtroversie specially now turmoylinge our English people Which booke lying in myne house for a season I procured the third chapter of the Booke the whole contaynes about 26. ch to be copied out for myne owne vse what tyme both Mā ād Booke was presently by reason of busines in England to be sundred from me In whose absence as I tooke no small delite in the same chapter so I demed it my duty not knowing when the whole might be published to put it in print for publike vtility If curteous Read thow fynde it comly ād profitable in it self whē thow hast read it thē easily iudge of the whole when all the members knit togither shold presēt it self vnto the as a reasonable body Meane-tyme my desire is of all such faithfull people as to whom the whole or any part of the said booke shall com that if it be in theyr pouwre they will for the edificatiō of me ād others procure the printinge thereof The miserable distractions of the Catholike confused ād scatred Church it requireth such a salue nor knoe I any who of experience is better able to guide distressed sowles in this fore-prophecied tyme of disorder whereyn if it were possible the very Elect should be deceived An age wherein more heed is to be had of rēdinge Wolues clad in sheepish conversation as in skynnes rather then of open Beares Lyons and Leopards sittinge in the midst of the temple and Catholike wheatfeilde I meane the Church And thus desiring the praiers of the faithfull for my happy progresse in the wayes of holynes I leaue the to the gracious government of Christ his Spirit Amsterdam 1599. Amongst Christians the least of a thousande Io. Ioope Uvho is a true visible Christian. IT beinge once knowen who of vs may be adiudged a true visible Christian an easie entrance and firme ground is giuen to the substance off Church disputation And because no factious Spirit may haue an hole to creep out at such a christian must be considered Baptised or Unbaptised In the state of Unbaptisme som true christian may be and such a one I Describe thus 1. Vnto vs such a sowle cōfesseth it beleiueth that Iesus Christ is com in our nature by the holy Ghost his ouershadowinge the blessed Virgin Mary and that for the absolute salvatiō of his people Of which nomber this Sowle confesseth it to be And 2. professeth it self willinge to stand subiect to all the Sauiours Lawes as by the ministry of his worde shalbe revealed vnto it this only for bringing Glory to our Father in heauen More then this for substance cold not be in any to whome our Sauiour his ymmediate disciples preached as anie reading theyr sermons of Conuersion may easily perceiue Nor vpon such bare confession of Faith and Obedience was any sowle debarred Baptisme for it self and the subiect family as may also appeared by Iohn Baptists procedinge and the Apostles Arts. Now Baptisme being as will appeare in his owne Chapter not the exhibiton of Christianity but the seale of Christianity presumed first to exist it so is evident that a true visible Christian may be before Baptisme and that by the former Confession feinge such a one to vs-ward hath by Fayth apprehended Christ ād with Christ how shall he not haue all things also But let me labour breifly to explaine the particulars Vnto vs. The manifestation of a Christian lieth not in the worlds approbation for the world knoes neither God nor his Sons The reason is we haue the spirit that searcheth all things euen the deep things of God but the Naturall man perceiueth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishnes to him neither can he knoe them because they are spiritually discerned Yea though those Naturalls be crep into the Church they shalbe so farre from acknowledging them in truth as oftentymes They shall put them out of theyr Synagogues yea kill thē think they therein do God good service And in sayinge To vs rather thē To me it is because the faithfull theyr approbation it must not depend vpon any one no not on Elijah for euen in Israel there were true visible people to Obadiah who hid them by 50. and 50. in a caue when it may be Elijah demed all slayne by Iesabel So we se the blyndman in Iohns Gospell To be cast out of the Iuish church for an heretick who by and by was found out of Iesus for a Patrone of Christianity Such a sowle confesseth it beleiueth Beleif and Confession is ioyned togither of S. Paul with the heart man beleiueth vnto righteousnes with the mouth mā conf●sseth vnto salvation So the psalmist I beleiued and therfore haue spoken Nor without confession of faith can any of the church take particular knowledge of such that so they may proclame them visible Christians Nay how is it possible that anie now s●old haue true faith in God ād the same be hid from the whole Church Som must haue intelligence thereof except it shold be begottē without the ministrie of mankynd But this the Apostle denieth thus How shall they beleive without a Preacher how shall they preach except they be sent then Faith is by hearing and hearing by the word off GOD concluding hereby 1. that there cannot be faith without hearing 2. that such hearing is tyed to preaching 3 and it must be the word of God preached that only begets true faith 4. that such begetters of true apprehending faith for calling vppon God as a father in Christ Iesus whereof before he spoke they are sent of God and therefore theyr feete or governing affections to be proclamed Beauteous not Antichristian for Ministers sent of Satan or els of God in his wrath vnto Sowles they beget not such true applyinge faith in theyr hearers Now if a Sowle cannot be possessed with faith but it must be by the minister of faith no more then there now can be a childe without a father or an apple without a tre so the spirituall father at least must haue intelligence of such fruite nor can they hide it from the Teacher Consider this in the Eunuch Lidia the Iaylour
sayth Iustification by Fayth ALONE it is sufficient so that the beleiuer whosoever is ONLY so justified yea though no worke haue bene performed by him Wherevnto he addeth the theif his iustification on the Crosse sayinge The Lord required not of him what before he had wrought nor did expect what vvork he shold fulfill after he beleived but being iustified by SOLE confession namely of fayth he ioyned him companyon vnto him being redy to enter into Paradise And that Origen may not be demed wauering herein he afterward sayth Abraham might haue glory for his vvorks vvith holy iust men that savve them but this glory vvith God vvas ONLY by Fayth hid And so he straight reconciles S. Paul and S. Iames adding this The Apostle elsvvhere saith the stipend of Syn is death but here he sayth not the stipend of Righteousnes is lyfe eternall But the Grace of God is life eternall And Clemens his Mr. writ thus before him By Faith ALONE the beleiuer is perfected Cyprian hath this Faith ALONE profils somuch vve can as vve beleiue After him Victor Antiochian preacheth thus These vvordes thy faith hath made the hole they shevv that the ga●ments touched cured her not but Faith Therefore neither place nor vvords nor any such thing externall doth saue a man but euery man is saued by his fayth And Ambrose treades the same tract so They are justified GRATIS because Working Nothing nor restoring any thing in the rovvne thereof by Fayth ALONE they are iustified through the guifte of God And at large the same Elder presseth th'opposition not betwene the works of the law and the works off faith as the Romanist wold haue it but betwene the works of the lawe ād SOLA FIDES Faith alone For Chrysostom he thus syngs the same songue here the Apostle shevveth the vertue off God not because he only saueth but also iustifieth leadeth into glory vsing no vvorks herevnto but exacting ONLY faith And Basilius Magnus writeth so That glorying in God is then by all meanes perfect vvhen as a Man is not extolled by reason of his ovvne righteousnes but acknovvledgeth himself verily to be destitute of Righteousnes but to be justified by Faith ONLY in Christ. And Paul so glories in that as he contemnes his ovvne Righteousnes Pope Leo writes thus Euen as righteousnes is by Faith so likevvise by true fayth is life eternall obtayned Rabanus walks in the same padde with his predecessors sayinge By the Grace of Christ ALONE the Elect are deliuered from every Scādale Thus Remigius Lyfe eternalis not by Merit because of our selues vve cā fall but of our selues vve cānot ryse but by his vvill that is by his Mercy But yet lower to corrupted tymes The Idiote writes so To justify is better then to create seing by creating Nature is giuen but by justifyinge both the falt is taken avvay and Grace is conferred Then Giselbert foloweth on with his pen thus I say the righteousnes of God not vvhereby god is just but vvhereby he cloths man vvhē as he justifies the vvicked Gratis Afterwards Theophilact so subscribes It is the Righteousnes of God vvhich is by Fayth This nedeth not our Labours or vvorks but the WHOLE partaineth to God his grace But I will yet descend to corrupter tymes Abbot Barnard hath this If thovv shalt beleiue that thy synnes cannot be blotted out but Only of him agaynst vvhome thovv hast synned in vvhome syn is not thovv dost vvell but adde therevvithall se also thovv beleiue it That is because by him synnes are forgiuen vnto the. This is the testimony vvhich the H. Gh. beareth in our heart saying Thy synnes are forgiuen the. For so the Apostle thought namely that Mā vvas iustified by Faith GRATIS And abbot Rupertus so It is expedient to knoe Christ he must seek him vvho being found doth bring profit in vvhome to beleiue it is Salvation And afterwards In Iesus Christ neither circumcisiō nor vncircumcision nor Gentile nor levve but FAITH ONLY is required And the Manke lo. Baptista Folengius protesteth his fayth thus vvhat greater Signe can there be both of God his justice vvherby of Synners he hath MADE vs lust as also of his Goodnes vvhereby vve are GRATIS invited to the inheritance of Eternall happines after a manner euen dravven vs being vnvvillinge But to alleadge all I cold alleadge it were to make a Booke and not to conclude a Chapter and none of the former writers can be reiected off the Romanist With whose so euident testimony if so He will not be satisfied neyther is a Clowde of witnesses moe likly to be accepted As for works whereby Fayth is declared to Man according to that of Iames Shevve me thy Fayth by thy vvorks ●noue of those writers but euer vrged them as men wold thereby receive assurance of theyr Election according to that of S. Peter make your callinge election sure namely by works Not that thereby our Election is made sure with GOD but vnto vs. wherevnto lo. Viguerius Doctor of Theologie amongst the Papists in his Theologicall Institutions approved by Sorbon priviledged by the King Ao 1549. he thus cōsenteth By those vvords 2 Pet. 1. 10. no vvay can be had that Election shold be by reason of vvorks follovvinge but that by perseverance in good vvorks Praedestination vvhich is vnmoveable it is by conjecturall assurance so shovven Certaine vnto vs. Touching the Euer-visibility of the Church it is One way then proved whē there be found in Catholike vnity such as holde the former two poynts 1. Christ. 2. so apprehendinge Christ vnto perfection of salvation But that there haue bene som who haue so beleiued and confessed euen through the corruptest tymes it may appeare vp that is already sayde Obiection But som of them liued vnder Antichrists externall Church-gouernment therefore such visible Antichristian This blynd argument of Brounisme I answer with the like Diotrephes Nicolaitans Satans throne Balaamites Iesabel prophetisse Denyers of Resurrection c. they liued vnder Christ his externall church-gouernment therefore all they were true visible Christians If this be sottish thē the former for if Christ his church-gouernment be not able to make all true visible Christians vnder it then neither can Antichrist his externall regiment make all vnder it visible Antichristian There is a greater government then the church-government and that is the government of Christ and Antichrists Spirit and that is it which maketh the sowle visible Christian or Antichristian But hereof as also of the Church her euer-visibility in his owne chapter for the probation whereof variety of Arguments shall not be lackinge That is already sayd it may suffice to manifest vvho is a true visible Christian. All glory to God The definitiō of a true visible Christian as yet in an vnbaptised estate vvhose particulars are aftervvard● proved * Rom. 8. ‡ 1 Iohn