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A65695 The absurdity and idolatry of host-worship proved, by shewing how it answers what is said in scripture and the writtings of the fathers, to shew the folly and idolatry committed in the worship of heathen deities : also a full answer to all those pleas by which papists would wipe off the charge of idolatry, and an appendix against transubstantiation, with some reflexions on a late popish book called The guide in controversies / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726. 1679 (1679) Wing W1719; ESTC R39040 107,837 157

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gr._n p._n 29._o lin_v 50._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 30._o lin_v 1._o 2._o these_o father_n in_o their_o apology_n do_v very_o careful_o take_v notice_n of_o any_o thing_n deliver_v by_o they_o which_o they_o imagine_v the_o heathen_n may_v retort_v upon_o they_o when_o theodoret_n have_v confute_v the_o heathen_a polytheism_n and_o have_v confront_v to_o it_o the_o rule_n of_o moses_n and_o of_o christ_n who_o say_v he_o do_v command_v we_o to_o worship_v the_o creat_a only_o n.b._n he_o add_v that_o they_o perhaps_o may_v say_v the_o christian_n be_v not_o observer_n of_o the_o rule_n because_o they_o worship_v the_o whole_a trinity_n and_o not_o the_o unity_n exclusive_o 50._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 104._o lin_v 50._o and_o then_o he_o give_v a_o copious_a answer_n to_o that_o objection_n in_o his_o seven_o book_n have_v deride_v pagan_a deity_n
l._n 6._o c._n 3._o 24._o contr._n don._n l._n 3._o c._n 18._o orig._n in_o matt._n hom._n 1._o not_o as_o visible_a for_o as_o the_o father_n say_v it_o concern_v those_o only_o which_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o rock_n and_o such_o be_v only_o they_o who_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n and_o do_v they_o now_o as_o in_o the_o defection_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n to_o idol_n worship_n 7000_o soul_n remain_v who_o have_v not_o bow_v the_o knee_n to_o baal_n so_o may_v it_o be_v in_o the_o defection_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a into_o the_o like_a sin_n §_o two_o ob._n 4_o but_o say_v r._n h._n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 75._o disc_n p._n 75._o we_o say_v in_o our_o creed_n i_o believe_v one_o holy_a catholic_n church_n but_o how_o be_v it_o holy_a if_o it_o may_v fall_v into_o and_o teach_v so_o gross_a and_o so_o manifold_a idolatry_n answ_n even_o as_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n and_o judah_n be_v holy_a notwithstanding_o their_o idolatry_n and_o wickedness_n and_o the_o city_n of_o jerusalem_n be_v holy_a notwithstanding_o the_o wickedness_n of_o the_o people_n that_o live_v in_o it_o the_o church_n be_v therefore_o always_o holy_a 343._o expos_fw-la on_o the_o creed_n p._n 343._o say_v the_o reverend_n and_o learned_a bishop_n pearson_n 1._o in_o reference_n to_o the_o vocation_n by_o which_o all_o the_o member_n of_o it_o be_v call_v and_o separate_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n to_o god_n which_o separation_n in_o the_o language_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o sanctification_n and_o so_o the_o calling_n be_v holy_a 9_o 2_o tim._n i_o 9_o for_o god_n have_v call_v as_o with_o a_o holy_a call_n the_o body_n which_o be_v separate_v by_o it_o may_v well_o be_v call_v holy_a 2._o in_o relation_n to_o the_o office_n appoin_v and_o the_o power_n exercise_v in_o the_o church_n which_o by_o their_o institution_n and_o operation_n be_v holy_a and_o so_o that_o church_n for_o which_o they_o be_v appoint_v and_o in_o which_o they_o be_v exercise_v may_v be_v call_v holy_a 3._o because_o whosoever_o be_v call_v to_o profess_v faith_n in_o christ_n be_v thereby_o engage_v to_o holiness_n of_o life_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n let_v every_o man_n that_o name_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n depart_v from_o iniquity_n 4._o the_o church_n be_v style_v holy_a because_o the_o end_n of_o constitute_v a_o church_n in_o god_n be_v for_o the_o purchase_n a_o holy_a people_n and_o the_o great_a design_n of_o it_o be_v for_o the_o beget_n and_o increase_v holiness_n that_o as_o god_n be_v original_o holy_a in_o himself_o so_o he_o may_v communicate_v his_o sanctity_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n who_o he_o intend_v to_o bring_v to_o the_o fruition_n of_o himself_o to_o which_o without_o a_o previous_a sanctification_n they_o can_v approach_v because_o without_o holiness_n no_o man_n shall_v see_v the_o lord_n but_o as_o for_o real_a inward_a holiness_n either_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o constitute_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o it_o be_v not_o if_o it_o be_v not_o then_o can_v it_o not_o be_v necessary_a to_o constitute_v any_o part_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n visible_a and_o consequent_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o constitute_v the_o whole_a and_o so_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o believe_v that_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n be_v thus_o holy_a if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o this_o inward_a holiness_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n then_o be_v none_o to_o be_v reckon_v or_o approve_v of_o as_o member_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a who_o be_v not_o inward_o holy_a nor_o be_v a_o wicked_a bishop_n or_o church-governor_n to_o be_v obey_v because_o such_o be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v without_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o have_v no_o right_a to_o govern_v these_o within_o 2._o see_v i_o can_v have_v no_o assurance_n that_o any_o member_n of_o a_o council_n be_v inward_o sanctify_v it_o 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from_o salvation_n for_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o mortal_a sin_n and_o so_o unacknowledged_a and_o unrepented_a of_o it_o must_v not_o only_o hazard_v but_o destroy_v salvation_n answ_n to_o this_o objection_n we_o answer_v 1._o by_o retortion_n thus_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o papist_n that_o proestant_o may_v be_v save_v from_o which_o confession_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o they_o be_v not_o guilty_a either_o of_o heresy_n or_o schism_n because_o the_o scripture_n have_v declare_v concern_v these_o offence_n 21._o gal._n v._n 21._o that_o they_o who_o do_v such_o thing_n shall_v not_o inherit_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o protestant_n may_v be_v save_v be_v confess_v implicit_o and_o consequential_o 1._o by_o those_o who_o do_v assert_v that_o even_o a_o heretic_n 15._o vide_fw-la st._n clar._n problem_n 15._o whilst_o he_o conceive_v his_o own_o sect_n more_o credible_a be_v not_o oblige_v to_o believe_v because_o the_o faith_n be_v not_o sufficient_o propound_v to_o he_o 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education_n misinformation_n of_o catholic_n doctrine_n etc._n etc._n may_v probable_o find_v pardon_n from_o our_o merciful_a judge_n the_o incomparable_a chillingworth_n conclude_v from_o the_o concession_n of_o mr._n knot_n 4._o ch._n 1._o part._n 1._o s._n 4._o that_o whatsoever_o protestant_a want_v capacity_n or_o have_v it_o want_v sufficient_a mean_n of_o instruction_n to_o convince_v his_o conscience_n of_o the_o falsehood_n of_o his_o own_o and_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o roman_a religion_n may_v be_v save_v notwithstanding_o any_o error_n in_o his_o religion_n which_o be_v indeed_o the_o conclusion_n of_o mr._n knot_n discourse_n in_o these_o word_n thus_o we_o allow_v protestant_n as_o much_o charity_n as_o dr._n potter_n spare_v we_o for_o who_o he_o make_v ignorance_n the_o best_a hope_n of_o salvation_n 2._o that_o nothing_o hinder_v but_o that_o a_o protestant_n die_v a_o protestant_n may_v die_v with_o contrition_n for_o his_o schism_n and_o heresy_n and_o do_v so_o 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