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A32819 A serious examination of the independent's catechism and therein of the chief principles of non-conformity to, and separation from the Church of England / by Benjamin Camfield ... ; in two parts, the first general, the second more particular. Camfield, Benjamin, 1638-1693. 1668 (1668) Wing C383; ESTC R6358 213,588 410

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