hate the Church of Rome 3. So that the Reformed have had a Church and their Religion before Luther A Refutation of this shift of the Jesuites That because Luther was in Error in Regard of his doctrine of Consubstantiation Therefore his Refutations of their Opinions and Doctrines is not to be considerable 1. THis is a strange shift indeed for is it not a miserable perverseness in the Jesuites and others Popish Doctors and Writers that being not able to maintain their own Heresies against Luther they will think to escape in the Judgement of Men from being condemned because Luther himself in one point of Doctrine erred 2. May no man convince Error but such an one as is free from Error at all Himself 3. The Scriptures are left unto us to be our Rule of Truth by them must all Doctrine be squared and directed they sit in the highest Seat of Judgement to give Sentence in every Cause 4. With Them did Luther cut down the Popish Errors 5. But one Error of Luther cannot serve to excuse infinite Errors in the Popish Church The Reformed of England France Holland c. do not Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 1. WE are not so addicted in these Reformed Churches as to Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 2. We are no more partial unto them in this behalf then we are unto the Ancient Fathers 3. Our Religion and Faith hangeth not upon the sayings of Men be they old or young but onely upon the Canonical Scriptures of God 4. And if they be against us so long as Scripture is for us our Cause is good and we will not be ashamed thereof 5. From hence it followeth That therefore most false is it that the Papists say That our Divity resteth upon these late Writers and young Fathers whom the Jesuites and other Popish Doctors do so scornfully compare with the Old Fathers 6. We use not to alledge for proofs authentical of any Doctrine and as the Rule of our Faith Calvin Bucer or others 7. But our Traditive and Use is this Thus saith the Lord Thus say the Prophets Thus say the Apostles Thus the Evangelists Thus it is written in the Scriptures Thus we read in some Book of the Old or of the New Testament Again If Luther or any other Learned Man among the Protestants or of the Reformed in the Churches above mentioned have either Interpreted the Scripture in somthing amiss or have doubted of some one Book of Scripture whereof doubt also hath been made of old in the Church of Christ we are not to defend their Expositions or to approve their Judgement Again The particular Opinions of Luther and Lutherans are not to be objected by the Papists against the Reformation of England France the United Provinces c. 1. FOr these Reformed Churches are not bound to justifie all Luthers sayings and the Lutherans and their private Opinions no more then the Papists will be content to avouch whatsoever hath been spoken or published by any one or other famous man of their Sect. 2. Which thing if they will take upon them to perform then let them profess it or else they offer us the more injury that object still against us a saying which was never either uttered or allowed by us 3. This might suffice men of indifferent Reason § Of Luthers Error concerning the Bodily Presence in the Sacrament LVther retained this Error of his old leaven wherewith in time of Papistry his Judgement was corrupted § Another Answer of the Reformed to the Objection made by the Jesuites against Luther in regard of his Error of Consubstantiation That therefore his Refutation of their Doctrine is not to be considerable THe Reformed again return this answer to that Objection 1. That although Luther therein somthing swarved from the Truth yet that he might bring in other Causes assured thereof out of the Word of God reject the Opinions of such as dissent from the same word 2. Otherwise no Man in Defence of Gods Truth may challenge or bid Defiance to the Adversaries thereof seeing they have no Priviledge or Charter granted to them but that themselves also may be deceived § Again Concerning Luther 1. LVther say the Reformed was an excellent Man and a worthy servant of Christ 2. Whose Ministery especially it pleased God to use in revealing to these Times the Son of Perdition who fitteth in the Temple of God and advanceth himself above God 3. Yet Luther was a Man 4. And therefore no marvel if he were not exempted altogether as from Ignorance so also from Infirmities § Concerning the Contention between Luther and Zuinglius about the Sacrament of the Lords Supper 1. 1. THis Contention and Dissention was a very hard one hotly debated in many Books 2. And the same hath continued since to the great hinderance of the Gospel and offence of many 3. In which contrary Writings and Discourses are found oftentimes harder speeches of either against other then were to be wished 4. Now do come in the Popish Writers like crafty enemies and gathering a heap of such speeches out of sundry of their Books do insert the same in their Books to make their Readers acquainted therewith that seeing such earnest contention among the chiefest Professors of the Gospel they may be further withdrawn in alienation of mind from the love and liking thereof 2. Examination of that matter 1. THose speeches of either against other which are harder oftentimes then were to be wished are yet such as the godly Servants of the Lord in contention about the Truth somtimes are moved to utter against their Brethren 1. S. Paul openly and sharply reprehended S. Peter to his face whereat wicked Porphyrie catched a like occasion to rail at Christian Religion long since as our Adversaries do at these dayes 2. What a violent and troublesome contention was there between Theophilus of Alexandria and good Chrysostome of Constantinople 3. Who knoweth not how sharply Cyrillus a learned and wise Bishop of Alexandria hath written against Theodoretus a good and Catholick Bishop in a Controversie touching the Catholique Faith both Bishops both Catholiques both Learned both Godly both Excellent Pillars of the Church And yet he that readeth both their Writings would think that both were dangerous Enemies of the Church and of the Faith of Christ and to be avoided of all Christians 2. So in the Books of Luther and of Zuinglius and of those that maintain either part appeareth we grant great sharpness and bitterness of Dissention who all notwithstanding if we set the heat of Dissention aside were as godly as learned as zealous Christians as the World had any The Reformed Religion and Church are not Heretical 1. WHat if the Romish Church condemned Luther Shall we say therefore that Luther is an Heretick 2. The Church of Jerusalem condemned Christ and Him and his they would have denyed to be the true Church but for all their Denial it was not less the true Church 3. The
Observation very considerable concerning the Society of Jesus and the Name of Jesuite 1. THe Societie of the Jesuites have separated Christ Else why have they separated Jesus from Christ 2. And leaving the Ancient ordinary Name of Christians which they scorn as too common they desiring rather to be called Jesuites a new Name of their own framing then to be called Christians 3. As though there were some society of Jesus priated to one kind of men separated from other Christians 4. If there be then is Christ divided 5. If not then you Jesuites are too Impudent to devise a new Society §. Exception of the Jesuites YOu Reformed set upon our Society and say we have divided Christ because certain men have chosen unto them this Name above all others to be accounted of the Society of Jesus because they have consecrated themselves wholy to advance this Name Must they therefore of necessity divide Christ Have not the English Christ Colledge in Oxford Answer of the Reformed to this Exception 1. WE will not strive much with you Jesuites about your Society of which we reformed make very small account 2. If you have for some special consideration Dedicated your selves unto Christ What is that consideration Why do not you tell us what Jesus requireth of you which all other Christians are not bound to do 3. If the Order of your profession require that you propagate the honour and magnifie the Name Jesus If for this all Christians ought not to labour at least Bishops and specially the Pope of Rome And if they be Jesuites who do this Why are not your Divines Bishops Cardinals and Popes Jesuites 4. It may be this care is far from them 5. Whereas then Names are for distinguishing of things they be needlesse and vain when there is no difference of the thing 6. Either shew us what is the proper and peculiar duties of Jesuites Or confesse that without any cause you have appropriated such a Name unto them 7. In Cambridge as well as in Oxford there are both Christ and Jesus Colledges but they that live in those Colledges are called onely Christians 8. Think you That because there are many Colledges different in Names there are many different Orders and Professions of men 9. In places distinctions of Names are necessary and without danger unlesse some Schism may happen betwixt the wals 10. Have you Jesuites no other thing to say for your Sect and Society Concerning the Conversion of Countries made by Papists What judgment is to be made of such Conversions 1. IT may happen that a corrupt Church which holdeth not the faith intirely throughout but erreth in some parcels thereof may convert Heathens 2. Such a conversion shall be mixed In some things it shall be to the true Faith In others it shall be to erroneous beleeving 3. Like as diseased Parents when they procreate Children do together with their nature and kind propagate hereditarie sicknesse 4. And that the Ecclesiastical story reporteth That the Arrians converted the Goths to Christianity 5. And such is the conversion of Heathens made by Papists Again Of the Conversion of the Americans by the Jesuites 1. The Jesuites which have assayed to make new kingdoms among the Indians did not serve Christ but the Pope 2. Nor did they enlarge the Kingdome of Christ but they did prepare for the Pope a Kingdom far from the Reformed where he may reign after he shall be banished from these countries 3. Which newly could easily have been effected by Lewis the 14 King of France if he had been willing to chastise or rather so far to punish Alexander now Pope as to take from him the Temporal Dominions of which the Popes are become Princes by the liberalitie of the Kings of France his predecessors Of the different Sects that are in the Church of Rome namely Thomists Scotists Dominicans Franciscans Jesuites COncerning these different Sects the Jesuites for Defense of them produce this Reason That all these did ever consent in Faith and differed onely in such things which might be disputed without any hazard of Faith Answer to that by the Reformed 1. BE it granted they did agree in matters of Faith Why then do they not follow all one Rule 3. For S. Paul reproved the Corinthians agreeing in Faith because they attributed to their Ministers more then was meet whilest one had Devoted himself to S. Paul another to S. Peter and another to Apollo What then shall be done to the Scotists to the Thomists and to others Are the Names of Scotus of Thomas of Francis more holy and lawful Names in their Disciples then the names of S. Peter S. Paul and of Apollo 3. Besides the difference is very great not in the name onely but in things also 4. As thus Let the Question be whether the Crosse of Christ and the Image of Christ be to be worshipped with the same kind of worship that Christ is Adored withal Doth not this appertain to Faith But Error in this will be plain Idolatry And yet the Jesuites know some of the Schoolmen stand for it Some against it 5. What of that Question which hath exercised all Churches and all Schools so long Whether the Virgin Mary had Original sin Or was ever pure and without spot 6. And infinite such Differences the Reformed do omit being matter of Faith § From hence I infer That the Vnitie pretended by the Popish Doctors to be in the Church of Rome is not so Intire and General as they would have it thought 1. BUt although it be not so yet if it proceeded of knowledge of the Truth and of faithful submission with the heartie obedience to the same truth it should deserve great Commendation 2. But springing from this Fountain That all men must obey the Pope whatsoever he teach and command without Examination or Resistance upon pain of Eternal Damnation It is altogether unworthie of commendation and praise because it is an easie matter upon this Foundation to raise up and maintain any unitie whatsoever 3. In that regard such unity is Tyrannical and Devilish 4. And in other Regards it is Carnal For in the chiefest Members of the Church of Rome it doth proceed from vain Ambition from worldly Pleasures and from filthy Covetousnesse 5. In another regard besides It is Brutish and also carnal proceeding in the most Members of Brutish Ignorance and of Fear Of the Seduction of People by the Popes and the Roman Church by their False Doctrine in General 1. IT is one of the Sinnes of the Popes and of the Church of Rome to seduce People by their False and Corrupted Doctrine 2. Which is a crying and an abominable Sin for it is thereby to poison People and to put them in the way which leadeth unto Death 3. Of this Seduction is spoken 2 Thess 9 10. in these words Even him namely the wicked mentioned before whose coming is after the working of Satan with all Power and Signes and lying Wonders and with
were blasphemie and yet more to say it The Reformed Churches are not Schismatical For having separated from the Romish Church As falsly they are accused thereof by the said Roman Church 1. HAving sufficiently shewed that the truly Reformed Churches are not Heretical we must pass further And shew also that they are not Schismatical because they have separated themselves from the Roman Church 2. For that cause they are not Schismatick because they have had just causes of their Separation Which we demonstrate in this manner 3. For not to be Schismatick in making separation from the Communion of a Church that Church must be corrupted and impure And this corruption and Impurity must be in the Doctrine and not simply in the manners And the said Separation must be for a Doctrine contrary to the Word of God which over throweth the grounds of Salvation and annihilate the Faith And besides which Erroneous Doctrine be publickly authorized and maintained by armes and the fire 4. When that doth meet and happen in a Church and that there are other Churches that God hath delivered and freed from Error then there is a necessity to withdraw and separate from such a corrupted and defiled Church for not to be partakers of her sins and not to receive the plagues of which she is threatned of God Rev. 18.4 5. And yet before that all endeavours must be done to procure Remedies to the evil after the example of the Children of Israel who before they did retire themselves from Babylon did carry their hands to her wounds to cure them but seeing that it was in vain they resolved to forsake her to go in Jerusalem there to serve God according to his word Jerem. 51.9 10. These be their words We would have healed Babylon but she is not healed forsake her and let us go every one into his own Countrey So the Apostles did not separate themselves from the Jews to turn towards the Gentiles but after that they had rejected their word and made themselves unworthy thereof 6. It hath been for that and after the same proceeding that our Fathers by thousands did separate themselves from the Roman Church 7. For which Retreat and Separation we are wrongfully accused of Schism for it is the Church of Rome which is Schismatick and not our Churches because she hath given the Cause and the necessity to our Separation Now it is the Cause and not the Separation which maketh the Schism as the Canonists do teach 8. So the Apostles were not Schismaticks in separating themselves from the Pharises But it were the Pharises that were such 9. The Roman Church hath given cause to our separation 1. By her false and Erroneous Doctrines 2. By the Domination of Antichrist And 3. By the strange cruelties which she did exercise against us when we did endeavour to repurge the Temple from the corruptions which the Devil had sowed therein during the darkness of Ignorance As antiently the Samaritans did pollute the Temple of Jerusalem in shedding therein Dead-mens Bones during the darkness of the night 10. Having been so dealt with who can lawfully revoke in doubt that our separation hath not onely been most necessary but also most just 11. The Reformed Churches for the abovesaid Reasons separating themselves from the Roman Church did not thereby separate themselves from the Communion of the Catholick Church Rather they are entered in it Such a separation hath not been a forsaking of the Church of Christ but a going forth from Babylon An escape from Sodom A quitting of a Pestiferous House and which threatneth of ruine 12. In a word by such a Separation the Reformed Churches did separate themselves only from a particular corrupted Church 1. For when the Roman Church was in her greatest purity she was not the Catholick Church but onely a member or a part thereof besides which part there were many others even more ancient than the Roman Church the Church of Antioch and the Church of Alexandria and the Church of Greece were also as the Roman Church parts of the Catholick or Universal Church 2. And the said Roman Church such as it is now and hath been in these last Ages ought not to bear the Name of a Church without adding unto it that it is an Impure Idolatrous Heretical and Antichristian Church 1. Rejection of the Injurious Names Given unto the Reformed by the Jesuites and other Popish Writers 2. Representation of the Laudable Names which the said Reformed do approve and make use 1. SOme of the Popish Writers do talk much and Dispute to and fro by what Name they may call the Reformed Either Christians Or Catholicks Or Hereticks Or Protestants Or Zuinglians Lutherans and Calvinists Or Sacramentaries Answer in General to the giving of those Names THe Papists do call indeed the Reformed at their pleasure by such Names as their malicious and railing Spirits can invent sometime by one and sometime by another Of the Names Christians and Catholicks 1. CHristians and Catholicks the Papists will not have the Reformed to be called 2. They reserve that Denomination to themselves 3. And yet notwithstanding to them of all Professors of Christian Religion the same doth least appertain The Reformed do not deserve the Injurious Name of Hereticks and do slight such a Name 1. THe Reformed for their part so long as they are sure that the Doctrine which they follow is the eternal word of God and the Gospel of his Son Christ as they are by Gods Grace most sure seeing it is plainly set down in the Holy Scripture of the Old and New Testament they care not what the Papists do think of them or what they spake of them or by what Name they reproach them 7. If they blaspheme the Doctrine of Christ and call it Heresie not fearing or sparing the Lord himself it is no wonder if they revile them with all opprobrious names that can possible be devised The Reformed reject the names of Lutherans Zuinglians and Calvinists 1. THey do Declare that they are not Lutherans nor Zuinglians nor Calvinists because they maintain not any private or proper Doctrine of Luther or of Zuinglius or of Calvin 2. No more then the Faithful in the Primitive Church to have been called Paulines or Petrines or Athanasians or by the name of any other such Minister of Christ What the Reformed say of the Name of Protestants 1. IF the Papists think it belongeth not to us Reformed of England and France c. let them give it to those whose it is 2. Being not a Name of Schism or of Sect it may as well be used as the Name of Catholicks and for Distinction sake only 3. Having begun first at the Diet of Ausbourg we are enforced to use it The Reformed are truely Christians and Catholicks 1. VVE Reformed tell the Papists notwithstanding their Opprobrious Names that if a Christian be he that believeth in Christ according to his word and if Catholicks be they that professe the
universal Faith of Christ we are truely Christians and Catholicks believing so and professing so 2. And are content with these Names and desire no other §. Let the Papists be called as they will the Reformed who Reprove and Confute the multitude of their Namss will not be grieved at them 1. LEt the Papists be called Diversly Franciscanes Benedictines Dominicanes And whatsoever other Title they can take up the Reformed are not grieved at the multitude and variety of their Names 2 Who being in Truth almost any thing rather then Christians delight in any Name rather then in the Name of Christians Against the Reconcilement and Reunion of the two Religions the Reformed and the Roman 1. BEing true that the Roman Church is Heretikcal and Impure And on the contrary the Reformed Churches Orthodox and Pure It follows manifestly that there can be none well grounded hope to agree and reunite Popery with the Reformed Churches And therefore that the labour of those who would think upon such a thing were not a seasonable labour 1. Because that in the differences which are amongst us we are so contrary one to the other that the one do clearly maintain the Negative and the others the Affirmative Now it must necessarily be that one of the Propositions be true and the other false Because two contradictories cannot be together true And it is not possible to soulder them by the mastick of some distinctions having no ground in the Word of God 2. The Errors of the Church of Rome have been solemnly ratified and confirmed by the Council of Trent upon pain of Anathema And therefore since that Ratification and confirmation there is no way nor mean left of reconcilement and Agreement For if there were the said Church should be bound to acknowledge her Errors to the end that they may be reformed And to disanul and abrogate concerning them the Canons of the said Council of Trent which is not to be expected from her as long as she shall maintain this poin as she doth vehemently that she cannot Erre And that she layes down and propounds no other Principle of Faith than her belief Against Toleration of false Religions with the pure and Reformed when they differ in Fundamental grounds 1. IT is not onely evil to do but also to suffer evil when it is in our power to hinder it Therefore Religion differing in Fundamental Grounds are not to be Tolerated together 2. This is proved by many Arguments Drawn 1. From the Law forbidding to plow with an Ox and an Asse And punishing Idolaters with Death Deut. 22.10 11. and Deut. 19.6.8 9. 2. From the Gospel denying the service of two Masters Mat. 6.24 And interdicting all fellowship and communion of light with darkness or Christ with Belial 2 Cor. 6.14 15 16. 3. From the Spirits Bill of enditement framed against the Angels of Pergamos and Thyatira for tollerating the Nicolaitans Rev. 2.15 20. 4. From Gods threatning to cut off all such as swear by him and by Malcham Zeph. 1.5 5. From the Imputation which is laid by the Spirit upon many Kings of Israel and Judah for not taking away the High places 1 King 15.14 6. From the Examples of Asa Josiah Ezekiah Constantine Jovian Theodosius and other Religious Princes who by severe Laws restrained Heresie and Idolatry and constrained the true worship of God 7. From the great danger of Heresie which like a Canker soon spreads over the whole body of the Church and if it be not looked into killeth and that eternally thousands of souls breaketh the bands of Nature and cutteth in sunder all sinews of human Society Putteth enmity variance and implacable discords in families Soweth seeds of Sedition in the State and Rebellion against the Prince Refutation of this Slander of the Popish Doctors That the Reformed are Enemies to Scriptures 1. THe Reformed say that this is indeed a very impudent Slander 2. For who ever thought and spoke more Honourablie Reverently and with more due Regard of the Scriptures then they Who have received and imbraced all Scripture given by Inspiration as the very voice of God himself Holding it for the onely Ground and Rule of their Faith and Religion And so resting in it as that they desire no other help as necessary to Salvation Which if they had not with more diligence and devotion defended then the Romanists ever did long ere this the glory of it had perished and it had been counted as a dead Letter 3. For what have the Reformed done for these many years with more endeavour and diligence then to maintain the Majesty and Excellencie of the Scriptures 4. Which the Romanists have so unworthily violated 5. And yet they blush not to match the Reformed with the Manichees and Ebionites who have violently laid villanous hands upon those Sacred Books Of the Apocryphal Books excluded from the Canon by the Reformed Churches Jesuits THe Jesuites and other Papists do demand of the Reformed by what Authority they Maime and Rob the Corps of the Bible Answer of the Reformed to that Demand 1. WE offer no violence to this Body neither do we cut off any which do appertain to the substance and perfection of it we pull away no Member 2. For we do not cut out any true Canonical Scriptures but cull out such as are not Canonical but foisted in and Counterfeit 3. Herein we do the Canonical Scriptures no injury dividing them from such Books as are not of that absolute Authority That they which are in truth Canonical may remain intire and whole together no more then the Shepheard doth injury to the Sheep in sorting the Goats and other Cattel from them The Doctrine of the Reformed Churches and particularly of the Church of England that the Ministers of God hath power to Forgive Sins if the Sinner repent and believe the Gospel maketh not the English Reformed Ministers to be Priests as they are called in the Church of Rome 1. WE Reformed say that the Ministers of God hath power to forgive sins not in some Cases only but in all whatsoever if the sinner repent and believe the Gospel 2. This Authority is given unto him by Christ 3. This in the State and Church of England the Parliament and the Communion Book confesse 2. 1. NEvertheless a Popish Writer is far from his purpose to prove thereby the Popish Order of Priesthood 2. For this maketh not the English Reformed Ministers to be Priests as they are called in the Church of Rome but Preachers of Repentance which bring the glad Tidings of the Gospel to all those that be heavie laden and desire to be refreshed 3. 1. NEither have they power themselves to forgive sins but God alone forgiveth sins Mark 1.7 2. But having the word of Reconciliation committed unto them from God they offer pardon and in his Name pronounce pardon to the sinner that believeth and that turneth from his wickednesse and sinnes unto the Lord. Refutation of this Accusation of the Jesuites