Selected quad for the lemma: christian_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
christian_n	catholic_n	church_n	communion_n	6,888	5	9.4764	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A71279	A compendious discourse on the Eucharist with two appendixes.	R. H., 1609-1678.	1688 (1688)	Wing W3440A; ESTC R22619	186,755	234

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