Selected quad for the lemma: christian_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
christian_n	catholic_n	church_n	communion_n	6,888	5	9.4764	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A33359	Diocesan churches not yet discovered in the primitive times, or, A defence of the answer to Dr. Stillingfleets allegations out of antiquity for such churches against the exceptions offered in the preface to a late treatise called A vindication of the primitive church, where what is further produced out of Scripture and antient authors for diocesan churches is also discussed.	Clarkson, David, 1622-1686.	1682 (1682)	Wing C4571; ESTC R16204	84,843	132

their_o be_v not_o near_o so_o many_o this_o gentleman_n be_v concern_v to_o maintain_v there_o be_v not_o one_o thousand_o in_o the_o whole_a christian_n world_n this_o be_v more_o than_o enough_o to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v sufficient_a warrant_n to_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thousand_o more_o than_o once_o though_o that_o it_o be_v in_o that_o discourse_n which_o he_o style_v a_o little_a pamphlet_n so_o translate_v more_o than_o once_o be_v another_o of_o his_o mistake_n and_o a_o three_o all_o in_o two_o line_n be_v that_o the_o author_n ground_n his_o argument_n on_o it_o whereas_o those_o that_o view_v the_o passage_n and_o the_o occasion_n of_o it_o will_v see_v it_o have_v be_v more_o for_o his_o advantage_n to_o have_v translate_v it_o ten_o thousand_o he_o that_o can_v allow_v himself_o to_o write_v at_o this_o rate_n may_v easy_o be_v voluminous_a and_o look_v too_o big_a to_o be_v despise_v as_o a_o writer_n of_o little_a pamphlet_n the_o letter_n mention_v pag._n 45._o be_v communicate_v to_o i_o by_o m._n b._n that_o part_n of_o it_o which_o concern_v alexandria_n be_v here_o add_v that_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o much_o it_o be_v mistake_v and_o how_o far_o from_o be_v answer_v for_o alexandria_n it_o be_v the_o great_a city_n in_o the_o empire_n next_o to_o rome_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v josephus_n de_fw-fr bello_fw-la judaic_a lib._n 5._o c._n cult_a and_o epiphanius_n give_v a_o account_n of_o many_o church_n in_o it_o assign_v to_o several_a presbyter_n viz._n beside_o caesarea_n finish_v by_o athanasius_n that_o of_o dionysius_n theonas_n pierius_n serapion_n persia_n dizia_n mundidius_n annianus_n baucalas_n add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d haeres_fw-la 69._o page_n 728_o this_o notwithstanding_o that_o the_o christian_n at_o alexandria_n which_o hold_v communion_n with_o athanasius_n might_n and_o do_v meet_v together_o in_o one_o church_n he_o himself_o declare_v express_o in_o his_o apology_n to_o constantius_n page_n 531._o tom._n 1._o edit_fw-la commelin_n anno_fw-la 1601._o the_o whole_a passage_n be_v too_o large_a to_o transcribe_v or_o translate_v this_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o it_o he_o be_v accuse_v for_o assemble_v the_o people_n in_o the_o great_a church_n before_o it_o be_v dedicate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v this_o part_n of_o his_o defence_n the_o confluence_n of_o the_o people_n at_o the_o paschal_n solemnity_n be_v so_o great_a that_o if_o they_o have_v meet_v in_o several_a assembly_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o other_o church_n be_v so_o little_a and_o straight_o that_o they_o will_v have_v be_v in_o danger_n of_o suffer_v by_o the_o crowd_n nor_o will_v the_o universal_a harmony_n and_o concurrence_n of_o the_o people_n have_v be_v so_o visible_a and_o effectual_a if_o they_o have_v meet_v in_o parcel_n therefore_o he_o appeal_v to_o he_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o better_a for_o the_o whole_a multitude_n to_o meet_v in_o that_o great_a church_n be_v a_o place_n large_a enough_o to_o receive_v they_o altogether_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o to_o have_v a_o concurrence_n of_o all_o the_o people_n with_o one_o voice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o if_o say_v he_o according_a to_o our_o saviviour_n promise_v where_o two_o shall_v agree_v as_o touch_v any_o thing_n it_o shall_v be_v do_v for_o they_o of_o my_o father_n etc._n etc._n how_o prevalent_a will_v be_v the_o one_o voice_n of_o ●●_o numerous_a a_o people_n assemble_v together_o and_o say_v amen_o to_o god_n who_o therefore_o will_v not_o wonder_v who_o will_v not_o count_v it_o a_o happiness_n to_o see_v so_o great_a a_o people_n meet_v together_o in_o one_o place_n and_o how_o do_v the_o people_n rejoice_v to_o beh●ld_v one_o another_o whereas_o former_o they_o assemble_v in_o several_a place_n hereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o in_o the_o middle_n of_o the_o four_o age_n all_o the_o christian_n at_o alexandria_n which_o be_v wont_v at_o other_o time_n to_o meet_v in_o several_a assembly_n be_v no_o more_o than_o one_o church_n may_v and_o do_v contain_v so_o as_o they_o can_v all_o join_v at_o once_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o concur_v in_o one_o amen_o he_o tell_v he_o also_o that_o alexander_n his_o predecessor_n who_o die_v an._n 325_o do_v as_o much_o as_o he_o in_o like_a circumstance_n viz._n assemble_v the_o whole_a multitude_n in_o one_o church_n before_o it_o be_v dedicate_v pag._n 532._o this_o seem_v clear_a enough_o but_o be_v capable_a of_o another_o kind_n of_o proof_n which_o may_v be_v no_o less_o satisfactory_a let_v i_o add_v that_o also_o this_o city_n be_v by_o strabo_n his_o description_n of_o it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d like_o a_o soldier_n coat_n who_o length_n at_o either_o side_n be_v almost_o 3●_n furlong_n its_o breadth_n at_o either_o end_n 7_o or_o 8_o urlong_n geogr._n lib._n 17._o pag._n 546._o so_o the_o whole_a compass_n will_v be_v less_o than_o ten_o mile_n a_o three_o or_o four_o part_n of_o this_o be_v take_v up_o with_o public_a building_n temple_n and_o royal_a palace_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n two_o miles_n and_o half_a or_o three_o and_o a_o quarter_n be_v thus_o dispose_v of_o i_o take_v this_o to_o be_v that_o region_n of_o the_o city_n which_o epiphanius_n call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o he_o tell_v we_o be_v the_o famous_a library_n of_o ptolomeus_n philadelphus_n and_o speak_v of_o it_o in_o his_o time_n as_o destitute_a of_o inhabitant_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr ponder_n &_o mensur_n n._n 9_o p._n 166_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o city_n be_v assign_v to_o the_o jew_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o strabo_n indefinite_o as_o josephus_n quote_v he_o antiquit._fw-la jud._n l._n 14._o c._n 12._o other_o tell_v we_o more_o punctual_o their_o share_n be_v two_o of_o the_o five_o division_n usher_n annal_n latin_a pag._n 859._o though_o many_o of_o they_o have_v their_o habitation_n in_o the_o other_o division_n yet_o they_o have_v two_o five_o part_n entire_a to_o themselves_o and_o this_o be_v i_o suppose_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o josephus_n say_v the_o successor_n of_o alexander_n set_v apart_o for_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bello_fw-la jud._n l._n 2._o cap._n 21._o thus_o we_o see_v already_o how_o 6_o or_o 7_o mile_n of_o the_o 10_o be_v take_v up_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o citizen_n as_o at_o rome_n and_o other_o city_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o four_o age_n be_v heathen_n otherwise_o antonius_n wrong_v the_o city_n who_o i●_n athanasius_n time_n be_v bring_v in_o thus_o exclaim_v by_o jerom._n vit_fw-mi paul_n p._n 243._o vae_fw-la tibi_fw-la alexandria_n quae_fw-la pro_fw-la deo_fw-la portenta_fw-la veneraris_fw-la vae_fw-la tibi_fw-la civitas_fw-la meretrix_n in_fw-la quam_fw-la totius_fw-la orbis_fw-la daemonia_fw-la confluxere_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o charge_n thus_o form_v suppose_v the_o prevail_a party_n to_o be_v guilty_a 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