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A31002 Select discourses concerning 1. councils, the Pope, schism 2. the priviledges of the isle of Great Britain 3. the Popes primacy, and the supream power of kings, both in temporals and also spirituals ... / by F. Barnes, of the Order of St. Benedict. Barnes, John, d. 1661. 1661 (1661) Wing B866; ESTC R9065 18,723 62

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Select Discourses concerning 1. Councils the Pope Schism 2. The Priviledges of the Isle of Great Britain 3. The Popes Primacy and the Supream Power of Kings both in Temporals and also Spirituals accordingly as they put on the quality of Temporals and are means for the hindring or procuring the safety of the Republick By F. Barnes of the Order of St. Benedict LONDON Printed by R. I. 1661. TO THE READER Friend I Was put upon the inquiry after the Manuscript of this moderate Romanist our Country-man F. Barnes by the double * Posit 4. reference Dr. Basier makes to it in his Marginal Annotations With some difficulty I at last recovered a Copy of it the same as I remember the Doctour himself used at the composure of his Diatribe which then was with much secrecy conveyed from hand to hand none of us daring to own the having it upon apprehension of some question or inconvenience from the Popes Nuncio in Paris the Authour himself being under his Holinesse's high displeasure and as was said and still is in the severe Discipline of the Inquisition for it Though I presume they will not hold their hand from chastising him nor with-hold a censure from any other of their own communion yet I see no reason why they should so much as blame us for improving our advantage by such ingenuous means as a meer Collection of what hath passed the Press in their publick Writings which might have been made by any man that had leisure and curiosity enough for the search Beside those two Chapters the Doctor sends us to I have excerpd a third which I found significant unto our purpose The benefit that may arrive to you by all is this From the first a satisfaction in or encouragement to your Communion with that Church which subjects her self to the spiritual Authority of Councils and Bishops and Priests those Powers at first ordained by God and continued by a succession uninterrupted among all regular and Catholick Christians in the World By the second are asserted to you those Priviledges of the Britannick Church so as you will be obliged to justifie her yea though a Romanist in the exemption she pretends to from the Pope's Jurisdiction with whom yet she denies not but that christian-Christian-Communion might be held and why it is not you will understand from the Confessions of his own party From the third you will collect the reason why the Oath of Supremacy is imposed upon you and know your indispensable obligation to it no spiritual person upon earth having power to absolve you from it My indeavours were not wanting though successeless on the other side to get a Transcript of that Chapter in Mr. Justell's work of which the Doctour had great expectation as you may read in my Letter which I communicated that you might know the first occasion given of his writing the Diatribe touching the Liberty of our Church The Reverend person who was pleased to take the trouble of it a long time cherished my hopes relying upon his own interest in and some promise I think from Mr. Justell's Son who is possessed of the Books and Papers his Father writ and some say of the learned abilities by which he did At length I was remitted to the Book it self said to be in the Press from which the sheets that were for my purpose could not be spared Whether that reference were a mistake or delusion I cannot tell nor shall make my self so much concerned in it as to inquire being more certainly now inform'd that the foresaid Book is some enlargement upon the Councils Mr. Chr. Justell long since published and that hee hath left his Geographia Sacro-Politica not half finished which so imperfect the learned Gentleman his Son thinks not fit to print so that I beleeve wee are to hope for little help from that hand If what you here have be not sufficient God be thanked the Church of England wants not men highly qualified to accomplish what ere it was Mr. Justell designed in her behalf from whom it may be lookt for when they see cause to intend it In the mean time accept with gratitude what is already done and be instructed by it a Dieu Yours RI. WATSON CHAP. I. Concerning Councils the Pope Schism WEE must obey and submit our selves to Powers ordained by God for the Government of his Church such as are Councils a Bishops Priests to all which obedience prescribed by Canons is to be given so that wee may not gain-say their decrees or opinions canonically delivered for hee receiveth damnation to himself whosoever resisteth the Ordinance of God Roman 13. And as in the Republick it is Rebellion to oppose the command of the Civil Magistrate therefore because he is obnoxious to errour so is it not void of Schism in the Church to withdraw from the Ecclesiastical Magistrate under a pretence of errour b actual or possible it being not clearly proved in a legitimate sense Be it therefore that onely the written Word of God is of necessity infallible and that Bishops and Councils may erre yet until their errour may be convinced in judgement they must be obeyed for avoiding of Schism no less than the Civil Magistrate unconvicted of errour yea obedience is yeelded him while hee errs Now of Catholick Tribunals a Council is supream unto which the Pope all Bishops and beside them all faithful people are obliged to resign themselves in things spiritual yea if the Pope should pertinaciously withstand a decree of Faith in an Oecumenick Council hee would be presumed an Heretick and separation from him as from an Heretick may be made without the character of Schism by denying him obedience fellowship and communion especially after the declaration of the Church according to prescript and Rule of the Canons Paralipomena a SEE my Tractate concerning the Supremacy of Councils wherein I have proved out of the Scriptures and perpetual practice of the Church that Popes are subject to the Canons That the Deacons of Rome preferring themselves before Priests against the eighteenth Canon of the Council of Nice the Pope seeing and consenting St. Hierom Epist 85. ad Evagr. calls men without sense or reason Why saith hee do yee alledge to mee the custome of one City why vindicate you a small number of which this pride is sprung against the Laws of the Church Augustin in Q. Vet. Nov. Test q. 10. styles the same Deacons somewhat immodest in that they live neither by Law Custome nor Example but because they are Ministers of the Roman Church think themselves more venerable than any other In the second Synod Flavianus being excommunicated by the Bishop of Rome as the a Lib. 10. cap. 10. Tripartite history shews is restored against his will by the first Synod as appears by a Synodal Epistle in b Lib. 5. cap. 9. Theodoret according to the Prescript of the Nicene Law and Decision as the Canon requires In the third general Synod notwithstanding the