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ephesus_n have_v err_v damnable_o in_o faith_n field_n to_o elude_v the_o gravity_n and_o power_n of_o this_o scripture_n by_o restrain_v the_o apostle_n sense_n therein_o particular_o unto_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n which_o be_v commit_v unto_o the_o episcopal_a care_n of_o timothy_n yet_o as_o many_o reason_n do_v prevail_v with_o i_o to_o reject_v his_o exposition_n so_o i_o prefer_v the_o authority_n of_o s._n ibid._n s._n commentâ—r_n ibid._n ambrose_n say_v that_o whereas_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v god_n the_o church_n be_v say_v to_o be_v his_o house_n of_o which_o universal_a church_n damasus_n the_o pope_n be_v rectour_n at_o this_o day_n this_o universal_a church_n be_v the_o pillar_n of_o truth_n sustain_v the_o edifice_n of_o faith_n 7._o hereupon_o 28._o hereupon_o prascripe_n cap._n 28._o tertullian_n deride_v the_o heretic_n of_o his_o time_n esteem_v it_o a_o base_a and_o gross_a conceit_n in_o any_o man_n to_o suppose_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o be_v ask_v of_o the_o father_n and_o send_v by_o the_o son_n to_o be_v the_o teacher_n of_o truth_n shall_v neglect_v that_o office_n unto_o which_o he_o be_v design_v and_o that_o he_o shall_v permit_v the_o church_n to_o understand_v the_o scripture_n otherwise_o than_o he_o speak_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o far_o be_v it_o probable_a say_v he_o that_o so_o many_o and_o so_o great_a church_n if_o they_o do_v err_v shall_v err_v thus_o conformable_o into_o the_o same_o faith_n variasse_n debuerat_fw-la error_n doctrinae_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la caeterùm_fw-la quod_fw-la apud_fw-la multos_fw-la vnum_fw-la invenitur_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la erratum_fw-la sed_fw-la traditum_fw-la error_n bring_v variety_n but_o where_o unity_n be_v there_o be_v the_o truth_n thus_o the_o church_n be_v many_o in_o number_n but_o one_o in_o faith_n divide_v in_o place_n but_o join_v in_o opinion_n 8._o my_o earnest_a meditation_n in_o this_o point_n teach_v i_o to_o lament_v the_o confusion_n of_o our_o protestant_n admit_v innumerable_a sectary_n into_o our_o vast_a and_o incongruous_a church_n england_n fox_n in_o act._n &_o mon._n see_v the_o 3._o conuers_n of_o england_n which_o be_v a_o very_a chimaera_n thrust_v together_o and_o fashion_v in_o specifical_a disproportion_n but_o this_o be_v our_o necessity_n hard_a necessity_n and_o not_o our_o choice_n to_o make_v such_o a_o pitiful_a delineation_n of_o our_o church_n for_o whereas_o we_o have_v not_o any_o certain_a succession_n to_o derive_v her_o descent_n and_o pedigree_n from_o the_o ancient_n we_o be_v compel_v in_o this_o respect_n to_o deal_v liberal_o like_o good_a fellow_n and_o take_v sundry_a heretic_n with_o incompatible_a faction_n into_o our_o society_n lest_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n for_o which_o we_o exclude_v other_o we_o shall_v exclude_v ourselves_o also_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n 137._o pag._n 137._o 9_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o d._n field_n lay_v the_o fundation_n of_o his_o babel_n fear_v not_o to_o say_v that_o the_o church_n of_o russia_n armenia_n syria_n aethiopia_n greece_n etc._n etc._n be_v and_o continue_v part_n of_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n a_o position_n manifest_o repugnant_a unto_o reason_n and_o authority_n unto_o reason_n for_o if_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n be_v a_o note_n of_o the_o church_n as_o we_o defend_v how_o be_v that_o a_o true_a catholic_n church_n which_o impugn_v the_o truth_n and_o how_o be_v that_o one_o church_n which_o be_v distract_v into_o many_o faith_n unto_o authority_n for_o s._n etc._n s._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la in_o perorat_a see_v the_o 3._o conver_n of_o england_n part._n 2._o chap._n 10._o num_fw-la 10.15.16.17_o etc._n etc._n augustine_n do_v constant_o affirm_v that_o whosoever_o maintain_v any_o heresy_n register_v or_o omit_v by_o he_o in_o his_o treatise_n he_o be_v not_o a_o catholiqve_n christian_n and_o consequent_o no_o member_n of_o that_o church_n wherein_o alone_o we_o 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our_o protestanticall_a etc._n protestanticall_a the_o church_n may_v err_v diverse_a church_n though_o err_v gross_o in_o faith_n make_v up_o one_o catholic_n church_n etc._n etc._n doctrine_n convaigh_v man_n into_o laodiceanisme_n and_o a_o careless_a neglect_n of_o undefiled_a religion_n whence_o atheism_n must_v necessary_o ensue_v i_o resolve_v with_o hearty_a affection_n to_o unite_v myself_o unto_o that_o church_n which_o be_v pure_a and_o single_a in_o religion_n wheresoever_o i_o shall_v deprehend_v the_o same_o for_o though_o i_o see_v that_o the_o protestant_n religion_n be_v false_a in_o some_o thing_n yet_o i_o have_v great_a hesitation_n and_o doubt_v whether_o the_o papist_n be_v true_a in_o all_o as_o s._n 1._o s._n confess_v lib._n 6._o cap._n 1._o augustine_n speak_v sometime_o unto_o his_o love_a mother_n i_o be_o now_o no_o manichee_n nor_o yet_o a_o catholic_n christian_n and_o so_o my_o estate_n as_o well_o as_o he_o may_v be_v resemble_v unto_o the_o case_n of_o that_o patient_a 8.24_o patient_a s._n
christian_n how_o damnable_o so_o ever_o err_v in_o the_o faith_n shall_v in_o the_o end_n be_v save_v but_o think_v it_o most_o reasonable_a that_o all_o right_n believe_v christian_n shall_v find_v mercy_n what_o so_o ever_o their_o wickedness_n be_v this_o four_o opinion_n be_v so_o general_a in_o augustine_n time_n that_o very_o fearful_o he_o oppose_v himself_o against_o it_o and_o not_o dare_v whole_o to_o impugn_v that_o which_o he_o find_v to_o have_v so_o great_a and_o reverend_a author_n he_o qualify_v it_o what_o he_o can_v and_o so_o doubtful_o broach_v that_o opinion_n which_o give_v occasion_n to_o the_o papist_n of_o their_o heresy_n touch_v purgatory_n etc._n etc._n 4._o here_o the_o doctor_n sort_v his_o term_n wise_o for_o his_o own_o advantadge_n k._n advantadge_n ad_fw-la literan_n k._n quote_v s._n hierome_n as_o though_o the_o reverence_n which_o s._n augustine_n yield_v unto_o his_o person_n make_v he_o fearful_a to_o impugn_v his_o error_n but_o what_o overture_n be_v there_o of_o s._n hieromes_n error_n in_o this_o point_n behold_v two_o place_n allege_v by_o the_o doctor_n out_o of_o his_o work_n first_o 66._o first_o hierom._n in_o esaiam_n cap._n 66._o as_o we_o believe_v that_o the_o torment_n of_o the_o devil_n and_o of_o all_o denier_n of_o god_n and_o of_o all_o the_o wicked_a who_o have_v say_v in_o their_o heart_n there_o be_v no_o god_n shall_v be_v eternal_a so_o we_o think_v that_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o sinner_n and_o ungodly_a hierome_n ungodly_a et_fw-la tamen_fw-la christiancrum_n say_v s._n hierome_n who_o work_n shall_v be_v try_v in_o the_o fâ—re_n the_o sentence_n of_o the_o judge_n be_v moderate_a and_o mix_v with_o mercy_n second_o 1._o second_o s._n hierome_n contra_fw-la pelag._n l._n 1._o he_o write_v that_o christian_n be_v prevent_v in_o sin_n salvandos_fw-la post_z poenas_fw-la be_v to_o be_v save_v after_o pain_n 5._o now_o consider_v i_o pray_v you_o with_o what_o be_v d._n field_n seek_v to_o obtain_v his_o purpose_n for_o intend_v to_o dazzle_v the_o understanding_n of_o his_o reader_n he_o adjoin_v this_o sentence_n immediate_o unto_o the_o former_a as_o jacob_n follow_v esau_n in_o the_o birth_n 25.26_o genes_n 25.26_o and_o hold_v his_o brother_n by_o the_o heel_n which_o signify_v that_o he_o will_v in_o time_n supplant_v he_o viz._n augustine_n say_v in_o his_o manuel_n to_o laurentius_n chap._n 67._o that_o such_o as_o think_v that_o ungodly_a man_n and_o sinner_n post_n poenas_fw-la salvandos_fw-la seem_v in_o his_o opinion_n to_o be_v deceive_v by_o humane_a benevolence_n hence_o a_o credulous_a and_o ignorant_a reader_n must_v necessary_o conceive_v even_o for_o the_o similitude_n of_o these_o word_n post_fw-la poenas_fw-la saluandos_fw-la that_o the_o opinion_n of_o s._n hierome_n be_v here_o particular_o aim_v at_o and_o reproove_v by_o s._n augustine_n and_o for_o this_o end_n d._n field_n have_v crafty_o convaigh_v those_o word_n into_o s._n augustine_n howbeit_o they_o be_v not_o find_v at_o all_o in_o the_o design_a 67._o design_a euchirid_n ad_fw-la laur._n c._n 67._o place_n as_o you_o may_v perceive_v by_o that_o exact_a and_o faithful_a translation_n of_o s._n augustine_n sentence_n which_o you_o shall_v find_v in_o the_o 18._o the_o §._o 2._o num_fw-la 18._o precedent_n unto_o which_o i_o must_v remit_v the_o courteous_a reader_n because_o i_o have_v confine_v myself_o unto_o a_o certain_a quantity_n which_o i_o may_v not_o exceed_v in_o this_o discourse_n for_o as_o procustes_n extend_v their_o leg_n which_o be_v short_a than_o his_o iron_n bed_n and_o contract_v they_o which_o be_v long_o so_o many_o man_n be_v tyrant_n unto_o their_o own_o conceit_n enlardge_v or_o abbreviate_a they_o according_a to_o the_o capacity_n of_o their_o paper_n i_o affect_v not_o a_o vanity_n with_o the_o first_o but_o i_o suffer_v a_o necessity_n with_o the_o second_o 6._o i_o proceed_v as_o d._n field_n will_v infer_v out_o of_o the_o two_o former_a sentence_n in_o s._n hierome_n that_o he_o be_v entangle_v with_o the_o 3._o the_o see_v before_o num_fw-la 3._o four_o error_n viz._n all_o right_a believe_a christian_n shall_v find_v mercy_n whatsoever_o their_o wickedness_n be_v so_o i_o may_v infer_v by_o the_o same_o reason_n nota._n nota._n that_o he_o be_v entangle_v with_o the_o three_o error_n viz._n all_o christian_n how_o damnable_o so_o ever_o err_v in_o the_o faith_n shall_v in_o the_o end_n be_v save_v and_o if_o any_o man_n will_v stand_v so_o ill_o affect_v unto_o s._n hierome_n as_o d._n field_n do_v he_o may_v enforce_v the_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o out_o of_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n 7._o but_o i_o satisfy_v myself_o for_o two_o consideration_n that_o good_a s._n hierome_n a_o great_a and_o reverend_a author_n indeed_o as_o d._n field_n confess_v true_o howbeit_o with_o a_o purpose_n to_o deceive_v be_v guilty_a neither_o of_o the_o three_o nor_o four_o opinion_n as_o you_o see_v they_o randged_a 3._o randged_a num_fw-la 3._o before_o nor_o to_o be_v accuse_v reasonable_o by_o any_o man_n in_o this_o behalf_n first_o because_o some_o particular_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a sentence_n exempt_a from_o this_o suspicion_n as_o namely_o sentence_n namely_o in_o the_o first_o sentence_n qvorum_n opera_fw-la who_o work_n shall_v be_v try_v in_o the_o fire_n etc._n etc._n which_o word_n quorum_n be_v not_o take_v explicative_o to_o signify_v all_o christian_n but_o distinctive_o to_o note_v forth_o unto_o we_o one_o certain_a 3._o certain_a what_o degree_n this_o be_v you_o may_v conceive_v by_o his_o doctrine_n which_o here_o follow_v num_fw-la 3._o degree_n of_o christian_n who_o shall_v suffer_v a_o temporal_a punishment_n in_o fire_n again_o s._n hierome_n pelag_n hierome_n lib._n 1._o contra_fw-la pelag_n dispute_v learned_o against_o the_o pelagian_n speak_v thus_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n we_o say_v that_o christian_n prevent_v in_o sin_n shall_v be_v save_v after_o the_o infliction_n of_o some_o pain_n what_o we_o ay_o and_o a_o faction_n only_o consent_v with_o i_o no_o but_o that_o church_n which_o you_o impugn_v and_o which_o i_o defend_v and_o if_o s._n hierome_n have_v exceed_v her_o know_a intention_n he_o be_v guilty_a of_o notorious_a treason_n against_o the_o integrity_n of_o her_o faith_n 8._o second_o because_o many_o grave_a sentence_n in_o s._n hieromes_n work_v do_v clear_a he_o whole_o from_o that_o unjust_a imputation_n and_o it_o and_o if_o occasion_n require_v it_o so_o i_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o use_v d._n fields_n direction_n in_o this_o case_n than_o 166._o than_o pag._n 166._o he_o have_v to_o use_v it_o in_o some_o other_o viz._n hierome_n write_v many_o thing_n that_o must_v have_v a_o favourable_a construction_n to_o make_v they_o accord_v with_o that_o which_o elsewhere_o he_o have_v deliver_v consider_v therefore_o with_o i_o the_o weight_n and_o efficacy_n of_o these_o testimony_n 26._o testimony_n s._n hierom_n in_o s._n matth._n cap._n 26._o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a unto_o salvation_n to_o have_v faith_n unless_o faith_n be_v confirm_v with_o good_a work_n again_o 4._o again_o s._n hierom._n in_o hos_n c._n 4._o when_o heretic_n see_v man_n offend_v against_o god_n they_o say_v that_o god_n seek_v nothing_o of_o they_o but_o the_o salvation_n the_o heretic_n faith_n be_v false_a but_o as_o they_o think_v it_o to_o be_v true_a so_o s._n hieromes_n purpose_n be_v to_o show_v that_o true_a faith_n without_o good_a work_n avayl_v not_o unto_o salvation_n verity_n of_o faith_n for_o this_o cause_n the_o people_n be_v not_o humble_v but_o they_o rejoice_v in_o their_o sin_n and_o go_v forward_o with_o a_o stiff_a neck_n wherefore_o the_o people_n and_o priest_n master_n and_o scholar_n be_v bind_v up_o in_o the_o same_o judgement_n 9_o i_o consider_v far_o that_o s._n augustine_n refute_v this_o error_n which_o d._n field_n derive_v upon_o s._n hierome_n as_o though_o he_o be_v 3._o be_v he_o name_v none_o other_o see_v before_o nun_n 3._o one_o of_o those_o great_a and_o reverend_a author_n for_o who_o sake_n s._n augustine_n fearful_o oppose_v it_o and_o dare_v not_o whole_o impugn_v it_o etc._n etc._n produce_v a_o very_a forcible_a and_o powerful_a reason_n to_o expugne_v it_o viz._n 67._o viz._n s._n august_n in_o enchirid._n ad_fw-la laur._n c._n 67._o if_o man_n of_o catholic_n and_o entire_a faith_n shall_v be_v save_v in_o the_o end_n notwithstanding_o their_o wicked_a life_n and_o perseverance_n therein_o unto_o their_o last_o hour_n than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o faith_n may_v save_v a_o man_n without_o work_n but_o that_o be_v impossible_a say_v he_o even_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n james_n and_o of_o this_o matter_n i_o have_v treatise_v elsewhere_o in_o a_o etc._n a_o de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la c._n 15._o etc._n etc._n book_n write_v by_o i_o to_o this_o effect_n now_o be_v it_o not_o
throughout_o 2_o whole_a â—â—_o whole_a 10._o &_o â—â—_o chapter_n go_v immediate_o before_o as_o you_o shall_v perceive_v by_o this_o example_n which_o have_v more_o show_n of_o probability_n on_o his_o side_n and_o be_v of_o more_o importance_n than_o all_o the_o rest_n his_o word_n be_v they_o 83._o they_o pag._n 83._o touch_v the_o second_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n ruin_n which_o be_v the_o ambition_n pride_n and_o covetousness_n of_o the_o bishopp_n and_o court_n of_o rome_n ecclesiastical_a rome_n part._n 1._o in_o 4_o considerate_a post_fw-la tract_n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecclesiastical_a gerson_n bold_o affirm_v that_o whereas_o the_o bishopp_n of_o rome_n challendge_v the_o great_a place_n in_o the_o church_n shall_v have_v seek_v the_o good_a of_o god_n people_n they_o contrary_o seek_v only_o to_o advance_v themselves_o in_o imitation_n of_o lucifer_n they_o will_v be_v adore_v and_o worship_v as_o god_n neither_o do_v they_o think_v themselves_o subject_a to_o any_o but_o be_v as_o the_o son_n of_o beliall_n that_o have_v cast_v off_o the_o yoke_n not_o endure_v whatsoever_o they_o do_v that_o any_o shall_v ask_v they_o why_o they_o do_v so_o they_o neither_o fear_n god_n not_o reverence_n man_n 42._o what_o credulous_a and_o ignorant_a reader_n may_v not_o be_v entangle_v by_o such_o sugar_a speech_n so_o full_a of_o deadly_a poison_n for_o first_o to_o deal_v with_o some_o of_o his_o word_n and_o then_o to_o come_v unto_o his_o matter_n why_o do_v the_o doctor_n produce_v gerson_n bold_o affirm_v that_o the_o bishopp_n of_o rome_n challenge_v the_o great_a place_n in_o the_o church_n do_v not_o gerson_n say_v bold_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o monarch_n in_o the_o church_n by_o divine_a right_n 5.6_o right_n pag._n 5.6_o see_v before_o and_o deal_v unpartial_o in_o this_o matter_n again_o whereas_o it_o may_v seem_v a_o odious_a imputation_n and_o special_o out_o of_o gerson_n mouth_n that_o the_o bishopp_n of_o rome_n will_v be_v adore_v and_o worship_v which_v word_n m._n doctor_n supply_v out_o of_o his_o own_o store_n for_o exaggeration_n sake_n as_o god_n you_o may_v consider_v that_o without_o all_o question_n gerson_n do_v not_o reproove_v the_o exhibition_n of_o condign_a honour_n unto_o the_o vicegerent_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n for_o 11._o for_o part._n 1._o de_fw-la potestate_fw-la ecclesiasticâ_fw-la considerate_a 11._o gerson_n do_v free_o agnize_v that_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o admirable_a power_n which_o be_v commit_v by_o christ_n unto_o the_o pope_n as_o pastor_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n though_o he_o be_v most_o wicked_a in_o person_n yet_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o place_n he_o may_v be_v call_v most_o holy_a which_o assertion_n be_v extreme_o repugnant_a unto_o the_o temerarious_a malice_n of_o john_n husse_n say_v that_o 23._o that_o see_v council_n constant._n sess_n 12._o in_o artic._n huss_n 23._o the_o pope_n may_v not_o be_v call_v most_o holy_a in_o respect_n of_o his_o office_n for_o then_o the_o devil_n himself_o may_v be_v call_v holy_a also_o and_o that_o he_o may_v be_v adore_v cultu_fw-la duliae_fw-la even_o unto_o the_o kiss_n of_o his_o foot_n and_o so_o in_o other_o honour_n which_o humble_a dejection_n will_v hardly_o agree_v as_o i_o conceive_v with_o the_o proud_a spirit_n of_o luther_n zuinglius_fw-la or_o their_o compeer_n 43._o i_o pretermitt_v my_o just_a exception_n against_o some_o word_n whence_o the_o doctor_n suck_v no_o small_a advantadge_n and_o come_v unto_o the_o purport_n of_o the_o matter_n itself_o wherein_o you_o may_v behold_v his_o general_a obliquity_n and_o deceit_n farâ—_n be_v it_o from_o gerson_n heart_n to_o impayr_a the_o dignity_n of_o our_o lord_n anoint_a as_o 8._o as_o see_v before_o pag._n 8._o himself_o speak_v and_o to_o scandalize_v the_o apostolical_a see_v much_o less_o do_v he_o intend_v to_o yield_v the_o least_o defence_n unto_o any_o man_n of_o wickliffs_n race_n but_o you_o may_v be_v please_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o catholic_n church_n have_v suffer_v much_o divexation_n in_o his_o time_n by_o the_o pernicious_a schism_n of_o antipope_n the_o etc._n the_o see_v gerson_n a_o little_a before_o in_o his_o treatise_n quot_fw-la schif_n mata_fw-gr etc._n etc._n two_o and_o twenty_o schism_n of_o that_o kind_a by_o who_o a_o great_a distraction_n ensue_v among_o christian_n as_o he_o do_v bitter_o complayn_v to_o extirpate_v this_o evil_a a_o council_n be_v indict_v at_o pisa_n and_o thither_o the_o prelate_n of_o the_o church_n flow_v in_o great_a abundance_n wherefore_o this_o worthy_a guide_n of_o god_n church_n and_o severe_a enemy_n of_o all_o wickliffian_n heretic_n lay_v down_o certain_a weighty_a consideration_n for_o the_o direction_n of_o so_o important_a a_o business_n 41._o see_v the_o place_n cite_v by_o d._n field_n num_fw-la 41._o in_o the_o number_n whereof_o be_v this_o particular_a ensue_a the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n now_o to_o be_v procure_v in_o the_o council_n of_o pisa_n unto_o one_o certain_a vicar_n of_o christ_n aught_o to_o rest_v more_o solid_o upon_o the_o sentence_n and_o deliberation_n of_o the_o council_n and_o of_o the_o wise_a man_n that_o will_v repair_v thither_o yea_o though_o they_o offer_v no_o evident_a reason_n then_o upon_o the_o allegation_n and_o assertion_n or_o excusation_n or_o iustification_n either_o of_o they_o who_o now_o contend_v about_o the_o papacy_n or_o of_o any_o their_o abettor_n this_o consideration_n be_v easy_o deduce_v from_o hence_o viz._n that_o the_o mean_a of_o virtue_n be_v to_o be_v accept_v as_o a_o wise_a man_n shall_v judge_v thereof_o and_o as_o a_o spiritual_a man_n who_o discern_v all_o thing_n shall_v say_v but_o not_o as_o a_o carnal_a man_n who_o favour_v not_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o god_n shall_v fain_o unto_o himself_o for_o who_o will_v doubt_v when_o more_o cause_n concur_v in_o their_o behalf_n who_o shall_v assemble_v together_o in_o the_o council_n but_o that_o such_o as_o employ_v their_o diligence_n to_o make_v union_n in_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v credit_v rather_o than_o antipope_n than_o the_o antipope_n they_o woe_n strive_v to_o possess_v that_o presidency_n which_o they_o already_o obtain_v forth_o too_o much_o and_o carnal_a love_n of_o a_o man_n unto_o himself_o and_o unto_o his_o necessary_n be_v it_o not_o wont_a to_o deceive_v and_o to_o carry_v into_o impious_a error_n even_o unto_o the_o imitation_n of_o lucifer_n that_o they_o will_v be_v adore_v as_o god_n and_o repute_v not_o themselves_o subject_a unto_o any_o man_n as_o son_n of_o beliall_n without_o a_o yoke_n and_o that_o no_o man_n may_v say_v unto_o they_o why_o do_v thou_o so_o they_o fear_v not_o god_n nor_o reverence_n man_n whereas_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v more_o humble_a and_o more_o prompt_a to_o serve_v in_o the_o office_n of_o their_o prelacy_n by_o how_o much_o they_o see_v themselves_o more_o oblige_v to_o render_v their_o account_n 44._o thus_o i_o have_v present_v the_o matter_n complete_o unto_o your_o view_n with_o the_o true_a substance_n and_o due_a circumstance_n thereof_o i_o know_v that_o your_o excellent_a apprehension_n will_v not_o suffer_v you_o to_o be_v transport_v by_o vain_a pretence_n against_o the_o clear_a light_n of_o unresistable_a truth_n wherefore_o your_o prudency_n shall_v ease_v i_o of_o far_a pain_n in_o the_o explication_n of_o this_o thing_n 45._o final_o to_o give_v a_o plenary_a satisfaction_n unto_o you_o and_o other_o concern_v gerson_n opinion_n general_o &_o your_o reformation_n the_o ruin_n of_o the_o church_n be_v mask_v in_o that_o glorious_a name_n you_o must_v understand_v that_o whereas_o he_o reprove_v the_o ambition_n of_o some_o pope_n you_o have_v renounce_v the_o institution_n of_o christ_n he_o accuse_v the_o exorbitancy_n of_o some_o disorder_a person_n you_o disclaim_v the_o verity_n of_o the_o catholic_n faith_n he_o disprayse_v the_o unlawful_a abuse_n of_o thing_n you_o contemn_v their_o necessary_a use_n he_o wish_v a_o remedy_n of_o some_o evil_n your_o remedy_n be_v worse_a than_o the_o evil_n themselves_o he_o desire_v to_o evacuate_v the_o bad_a humour_n you_o have_v leâ—t_v forth_o the_o lifeblood_n of_o the_o church_n in_o stead_n of_o conversion_n we_o see_v subversion_n in_o stead_n of_o reformation_n we_o behold_v deformation_n church_n against_o church_n faith_n against_o faith_n intestine_a conflict_n with_o endless_a strife_n and_o whence_o be_v this_o because_o unity_n be_v necessary_o dissolve_v where_o all_o the_o member_n be_v not_o conjoin_v unto_o one_o head_n a_o mischief_n which_o have_v never_o be_v know_v if_o luther_n have_v apply_v gerson_n 25._o gerson_n see_v before_o num_fw-la 25._o remedy_n in_o the_o cure_n of_o her_o sickness_n to_o conclude_v therefore_o there_o be_v a_o resemblance_n betwixt_o joabs_n cruelty_n against_o the_o son_n of_o his_o master_n and_o luther_n insolency_n against_o the_o father_n of_o the_o
pitiful_a conceit_n wherefore_o i_o direct_v my_o thought_n uto_o these_o 4._o consideration_n which_o here_o ensue_v first_o that_o it_o be_v a_o vanity_n in_o we_o protestant_n sometime_o to_o other_o to_o so_o do_v d._n field_n here_o and_o zanch._n de_fw-fr natura_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 4._o and_o other_o accept_v this_o liturgy_n as_o compose_v by_o s._n chrysostome_n and_o sometime_o to_o 235._o to_o so_o do_v m._n jewel_n &_o m._n powell_n de_fw-fr antichr_n p._n 235._o reject_v it_o for_o our_o own_o advantadge_n because_o we_o can_v not_o just_o insist_v upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o any_o author_n by_o way_n of_o proof_n which_o we_o ourselves_o deny_v to_o be_v deliver_v by_o he_o for_o though_o it_o have_v force_n against_o he_o that_o admit_v it_o yet_o it_o be_v of_o no_o efficacy_n for_o he_o that_o refuse_v it_o second_o that_o s._n cor._n s._n iwetur_fw-la mortuus_fw-la non_fw-la lachrymis_fw-la sed_fw-la prâ—cibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n hom._n 41._o in_o epist_n 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n chrysostome_n do_v pray_v and_o exhort_v other_o to_o pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o therefore_o in_o all_o probability_n his_o liturgy_n and_o his_o doctrine_n do_v conspire_v substantial_o in_o this_o issue_n three_o i_o find_v that_o when_o the_o church_n offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n for_o the_o apostle_n martyr_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v by_o way_n of_o missae_fw-la of_o see_v gabriel_n biel_n lect_n 85._o in_o can._n missae_fw-la thanskgiving_n not_o of_o petition_n and_o this_o be_v confirm_v unto_o i_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n viz._n the_o faithful_a do_v know_v by_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o church_n that_o we_o pray_v not_o for_o martyr_n as_o we_o pray_v for_o other_o man_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o martyr_n be_v recognize_v by_o we_o as_o citizen_n of_o the_o heavenly_a kingdom_n but_o we_o pray_v for_o other_o as_o be_v yet_o in_o temporal_a pain_n or_o at_o least_o conceive_v to_o be_v so_o by_o we_o and_o thus_o to_o wit_n respective_o unto_o this_o end_n we_o make_v our_o supplication_n unto_o god_n in_o their_o behalf_n farther_n as_o it_o be_v not_o absurd_o deliver_v say_v place_n say_v parte_fw-la 1._o lect_v 2._o super_fw-la marcum_fw-la see_v biel._n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n gerson_n by_o the_o learned_a divine_n that_o there_o be_v a_o addition_n or_o increase_v of_o accidental_a felicity_n in_o the_o saint_n so_o it_o be_v not_o inconvenient_a if_o in_o this_o respect_n also_o we_o recommend_v they_o unto_o god_n in_o our_o devotion_n 3._o fourthly_a though_o d._n field_n in_o his_o great_a wisdom_n than_o integrity_n do_v conceal_v it_o and_o so_o the_o tempter_n make_v his_o assault_n upon_o our_o saviour_n cast_v thyself_o down_o headlong_o for_o it_o be_v write_v 4._o matth._n 4._o he_o shall_v geve_v his_o angel_n charge_n over_o thou_o that_o thou_o dash_v not_o thy_o foot_n against_o a_o stone_n but_o he_o omit_v a_o principal_a point_n viz._n that_o they_o may_v keep_v thou_o in_o all_o thy_o way_n yet_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o the_o same_o liturgy_n do_v plain_o refute_v his_o pretence_a exposition_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o thus_o he_o say_v by_o the_o supplication_n of_o these_o patriarch_n apostle_n etc._n etc._n have_v respect_n unto_o we_o o_o lord_n like_n if_o d._n field_n will_v stand_v unto_o this_o liturgy_n to_o gather_v the_o sense_n of_o antiquity_n by_o it_o he_o must_v admit_v also_o such_o a_o exaltation_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n as_o will_v hardly_o stand_v with_o his_o like_n and_o he_o add_v immediate_o remember_v all_o the_o faithful_a depart_v who_o sleep_n in_o the_o hope_n of_o resurrection_n and_o make_v they_o to_o be_v at_o rest_n where_o the_o light_n of_o thy_o countenance_n be_v see_v 4._o thus_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n if_o their_o say_n be_v full_o relate_v and_o true_o weigh_v do_v hold_v a_o just_a correspondency_n herein_o and_o each_o of_o they_o in_o the_o essential_a point_n do_v follow_v the_o instruction_n of_o the_o same_o church_n wherefore_o though_o 8._o though_o contra_fw-la henric._n 8._o luther_n do_v base_o esteem_v of_o a_o thousand_o augustine_n and_o cyprian_n if_o they_o be_v repugnant_a unto_o his_o judgement_n in_o the_o scripture_n yet_o i_o see_v necessary_a reason_n why_o i_o shall_v prefer_v one_o augustine_n before_o ten_o thousand_o luther_n field_n and_o all_o such_o as_o be_v exorbitant_o carry_v against_o the_o stream_n and_o course_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n §._o 6._o reason_n which_o move_v i_o rather_o to_o believe_v and_o to_o follow_v s._n augustine_n herein_o and_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o his_o time_n then_o d._n field_n and_o his_o reform_a church_n a_o conclusion_n of_o the_o first_o part_n with_o a_o admonition_n to_o all_o caluinian_a reader_n 1._o when_o i_o have_v bring_v my_o discourse_n unto_o this_o effect_n as_o you_o have_v already_o see_v i_o consider_v serious_o in_o my_o private_a meditation_n that_o whereas_o we_o protestant_n make_v a_o glorious_a show_n of_o antiquity_n we_o d._n field_n pag._n 47._o assume_v that_o he_o will_v prove_v the_o papist_n note_n of_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o with_o we_o universality_n succession_n etc._n etc._n to_o justify_v our_o religion_n thereby_o it_o will_v prove_v a_o most_o ridiculous_a suggestion_n if_o in_o this_o particular_a itself_o we_o hold_v not_o conformity_n with_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n here_o also_o by_o the_o way_n i_o remember_v that_o s._n 53._o s._n heres_fw-la 53._o augustine_n register_n the_o heresy_n of_o aërius_n in_o the_o number_n whereof_o be_v his_o derision_n of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a conclude_v in_o the_o peroration_n of_o his_o treatise_n that_o whosoever_o maintain_v any_o of_o the_o precedent_a opinion_n he_o be_v not_o a_o catholic_n christian_n 2._o how_o near_o this_o censure_n appertain_v unto_o we_o protestant_n the_o 2._o the_o see_v book_n 2._o part._n 1_o chap._n 2._o sequel_n will_v declare_v mean_a while_n it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o observe_v with_o i_o how_o plausible_o and_o artificial_o d._n field_n demean_v himself_o to_o escape_v the_o pressure_n of_o that_o difficulty_n which_o be_v to_o heavy_a for_o he_o to_o bear_v it_o be_v most_o certain_a say_v 98._o say_v pag._n 98._o he_o that_o many_o particular_a man_n extend_v the_o meaning_n of_o these_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a 1._o dead_a viz._n then_o he_o have_v deliver_v before_o see_v §._o 5._o num_fw-la 1._o far_o and_o out_o of_o their_o private_a error_n and_o fancy_n use_v such_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o i_o think_v dare_v not_o justify_v and_o so_o it_o be_v true_a that_o many_o of_o the_o father_n be_v lead_v into_o error_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o not_o all_o as_o if_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v fall_v from_z the_o truth_n as_o bellarmine_n 3._o bellarmine_n see_n book_n 2._o part._n 1._o chap._n 3._o falfe_o impute_v unto_o caluin_n who_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n 3._o now_o forasmuch_o as_o m._n doctor_n do_v clear_o insinuate_v that_o such_o father_n as_o extend_v this_o religious_a duty_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a beyond_o the_o narrow_a compass_n which_o be_v assign_v by_o 5._o by_o insi_fw-fr l._n 3._o c._n 5._o caluin_n and_o 139._o and_o pag._n 98._o &_o 139._o himself_o do_v follow_v a_o private_a error_n and_o fancy_n herein_o and_o that_o they_o do_v fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n i_o be_v desirous_a to_o know_v without_o lie_n obscurity_n and_o circuition_n the_o best_a sanctuary_n of_o our_o evil_a cause_n either_o from_o d._n field_n or_o from_o any_o discreet_a protestant_n in_o christendom_n howbeit_o i_o may_v contract_v my_o speech_n and_o say_v in_o europe_n for_o our_o new_a faith_n have_v scarce_o peep_v out_o of_o her_o confine_n whether_o s._n cyrill_n of_o jerusalem_n concur_v absolute_o with_o the_o papist_n in_o this_o point_n 4._o see_v before_o §._o 4._o and_o whether_o s._n augustine_n conspire_v with_o he_o and_o whether_o s._n 18._o s._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr divin_v offic_n c._n 18._o isidore_n consent_v with_o they_o both_o unless_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v believe_v that_o sin_n be_v remit_v unto_o the_o faithful_a after_o this_o life_n she_o will_v not_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n unto_o god_n for_o their_o soul_n &_o final_o whether_o all_o other_o join_v with_o they_o herein_o fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n or_o not_o and_o if_o they_o do_v i_o be_v desirous_a to_o see_v what_o one_o man_n there_o be_v beside_o aërian_a heretic_n in_o who_o the_o truth_n be_v visible_o preserve_v 4._o here_o i_o give_v myself_o unto_o a_o long_a and_o earnest_a meditation_n remember_v a_o renown_a sentence_n of_o s._n 118._o epist_n 118._o augustine_n
32._o see_v also_o the_o curâ_fw-la pro_fw-la mert._n cap._n 1._o non_fw-fr est_fw-fr dubium_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o the_o dead_a receive_v help_v by_o the_o prayer_n of_o holy_a church_n by_o the_o healthful_a sacrifice_n and_o by_o alm_n the_o second_o 24._o second_o de_fw-fr civit_n dei_fw-la lib._n 21._o c._n 24._o non_fw-la veraciter_fw-la diceretur_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o can_v not_o be_v say_v true_o that_o the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v unless_o some_o sin_n be_v remit_v in_o the_o future_a life_n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o speak_v most_o constant_o of_o temporal_a pain_n which_o the_o soul_n of_o some_o man_n sustain_v after_o their_o dissolution_n from_o the_o body_n 16._o wherefore_o i_o reflect_v now_o upon_o d._n fields_n assertion_n and_o be_v amaze_v to_o behold_v such_o a_o repugnancy_n betwixt_o these_o thing_n viz._n augustine_n run_v doubt_o into_o purgatory_n and_o yet_o he_o affirm_v there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o some_o soul_n be_v relieve_v by_o the_o sacrifice_n etc._n etc._n again_o augustine_n do_v broach_v this_o opinion_n doubtful_o and_o yet_o he_o say_v in_o great_a confidence_n it_o can_v be_v say_v true_o that_o one_o sin_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o next_o unless_o some_o sin_n not_o remit_v here_o shall_v be_v forgive_v there_o be_v s._n augustine_n so_o simple_a as_o not_o to_o regard_v his_o own_o position_n or_o be_v not_o other_o man_n dishonest_a rather_o in_o contort_v his_o word_n against_o his_o purpose_n and_o intention_n 17._o but_o forasmuch_o as_o i_o know_v that_o our_o best_a and_o most_o respect_a author_n do_v insist_v everlasting_o in_o this_o point_n i_o adhibit_v all_o possible_a diligence_n to_o find_v out_o the_o doubtful_a sentence_n in_o s._n augustine_n which_o may_v seem_v to_o give_v way_n unto_o this_o pretence_a irresolution_n and_o special_o such_o as_o belong_v unto_o this_o business_n direct_o without_o deduction_n inference_n gloss_n interpretation_n â—_o not_o â—_o or_o the_o like_a devise_n whereby_o man_n be_v wont_a to_o heap_v up_o many_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o father_n and_o to_o make_v their_o conclusion_n against_o some_o doctrine_n which_o be_v not_o particular_o handle_v by_o the_o father_n in_o those_o place_n whence_o they_o assume_v such_o proof_n 18._o the_o principal_a therefore_o and_o most_o pertinent_a sentence_n which_o i_o can_v find_v be_v two_o which_o here_o ensue_v first_o some_o man_n be_v of_o opinion_n say_v 67._o say_v enchirid._n ad_fw-la laur._n cap._n 67._o s._n augustine_n that_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v and_o continue_v christian_n not_o divide_v by_o any_o schism_n or_o any_o heresy_n from_o the_o catholic_n communion_n how_o wicked_o so_o ever_o they_o live_v and_o never_o wash_v away_o their_o sin_n by_o repentance_n nor_o 29._o nor_o daniel_n 4.24_o be_v this_o doctrine_n repugnant_a unto_o our_o redemption_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n alone_o true_o as_o much_o as_o the_o former_a doctrine_n of_o propitiation_n etc._n etc._n see_v before_o pag._n 29._o redeem_v they_o with_o alm_n but_o persist_v therein_o most_o pertinacious_o unto_o their_o last_o day_n yet_o they_o shall_v be_v save_v by_o fire_n howbeit_o their_o punishment_n shall_v be_v extend_v according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o their_o offence_n but_o they_o who_o say_v thus_o and_o yet_o be_v catholiqve_n viz._n not_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n by_o any_o heresy_n as_o arrian_n marcionite_n etc._n etc._n seem_v in_o my_o opinion_n to_o be_v deceive_v by_o a_o certain_a humane_a benevolence_n 19_o here_o s._n augustine_n in_o his_o mild_a and_o gentle_a disposition_n though_o he_o reject_v this_o conceit_n in_o some_o private_a man_n yet_o he_o refer_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o error_n unto_o the_o simplicity_n of_o their_o love_n neither_o do_v he_o propound_v any_o scruple_n against_o purgatory_n but_o only_o he_o deni_v it_o unto_o such_o person_n as_o by_o a_o evil_a life_n and_o impenitent_a death_n make_v themselves_o uncapable_a of_o this_o 12._o this_o misericor_n &_o judiâ—_n cantabo_fw-la tibi_fw-la domine_fw-la etc._n etc._n psal_n 101._o which_o s._n augustine_n and_o his_o company_n do_v sing_v after_o his_o mother_n decease_n see_v confess_v l._n 9_o c._n 12._o merciful_a justice_n as_o for_o example_n the_o law_n in_o england_n do_v provide_v a_o mitigation_n of_o penalty_n for_o some_o offender_n as_o burn_v in_o the_o hand_n pillory_n or_o some_o like_a chastisement_n and_o deprive_v they_o not_o of_o their_o life_n because_o she_o will_v in_o her_o justice_n punish_v sin_n and_o yet_o in_o mercy_n she_o will_v preserve_v the_o person_n now_o if_o any_o man_n will_v exceed_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o law_n and_o in_o his_o affection_n will_v grant_v this_o indulgence_n unto_o murderer_n also_o his_o error_n must_v be_v correct_v by_o such_o as_o be_v more_o equal_a in_o the_o course_n of_o justice_n than_o he_o be_v and_o yet_o they_o who_o deny_v this_o benefit_n unto_o a_o murderer_n do_v not_o thereby_o subvert_v the_o law_n which_o show_v mercy_n unto_o some_o transgressor_n but_o they_o reduce_v the_o practice_n of_o it_o unto_o the_o intention_n of_o they_o by_o who_o it_o be_v respective_o decree_v 20._o the_o second_o sentence_n in_o 69._o in_o enchirid._n cap._n 69._o s._n augustine_n be_v this_o it_o be_v not_o incredible_a that_o some_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v do_v after_o this_o life_n and_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v question_v whether_o it_o be_v so_o or_o not_o for_o it_o may_v be_v find_v out_o or_o it_o may_v lie_v hide_v whether_o many_o faithful_a man_n shall_v be_v save_v by_o a_o certain_a purgatory_n fire_n either_o more_o slow_o or_o more_o speedy_o as_o they_o have_v more_o or_o less_o affect_v these_o temporal_a good_n howbeit_o these_o man_n also_o be_v not_o such_o of_o who_o the_o scripture_n say_v 6.10_o say_v 1._o cor._n 6.10_o they_o shall_v not_o possess_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o be_v to_o say_v unless_o their_o sin_n be_v remit_v unto_o they_o upon_o their_o convenient_a repentance_n 21._o here_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o leave_v it_o as_o a_o thing_n uncertayn_v and_o disputable_a whether_o there_o be_v any_o temporal_a pain_n or_o penal_a expurgation_n of_o some_o soul_n after_o this_o life_n for_o he_o do_v affirm_v it_o confident_o in_o many_o place_n and_o doubt_v of_o it_o in_o none_o but_o he_o leave_v it_o as_o a_o thing_n questionable_a whether_o any_o earthly_a affection_n remain_v actual_o in_o the_o separate_a soul_n and_o cleave_v thereunto_o be_v purdge_v out_o after_o this_o life_n faith_n he_o may_v doubt_v also_o the_o qualitate_fw-la poenae_fw-la viz._n whether_o fire_n be_v the_o instrument_n which_o god_n use_v in_o the_o purgation_n of_o soul_n or_o not_o for_o though_o this_o be_v most_o credible_a yet_o no_o man_n be_v oblige_v to_o receive_v this_o opinion_n by_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o faith_n by_o affliction_n pain_n and_o sorrow_n as_o they_o be_v purdge_v out_o in_o this_o life_n very_o often_o by_o tribulation_n and_o grief_n this_o be_v clear_o import_v by_o his_o own_o word_n tale_n aliquid_fw-la fieri_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o incredible_a that_o some_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v do_v after_o this_o life_n and_o yet_o we_o may_v doubt_v whether_o it_o be_v so_o or_o not_o 22._o wherefore_o as_o in_o the_o 18._o the_o num_fw-la 18._o former_a sentence_n s._n augustine_n dispute_v of_o the_o person_n unto_o who_o purgatory_n may_v appertayn_v so_o here_o he_o dispute_v of_o the_o qvality_n which_o be_v to_o be_v cleanse_v out_o of_o their_o soul_n but_o he_o dispute_v or_o doubt_v in_o neither_o of_o purgatory_n itself_o or_o a_o penal_a estate_n for_o to_o litigate_v concern_v name_n &_o word_n it_o be_v a_o childish_a folly_n wherein_o the_o soul_n of_o some_o man_n shall_v receive_v a_o castigation_n for_o their_o sin_n that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a and_o genuine_a sense_n of_o s._n augustine_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n all_o intelligent_a reader_n will_v easy_o perceive_v by_o the_o connexion_n and_o dependency_n of_o his_o discourse_n 23._o but_o i_o proceed_v yet_o a_o little_a far_o and_o consider_v yet_o more_o exact_o with_o myself_o that_o the_o very_a prescription_n ensue_v 110._o ensue_v cap._n 110._o there_o in_o s._n augustine_n profound_a discourse_n do_v invincible_o and_o substantial_o demonstrate_v unto_o i_o always_o presuppose_v he_o to_o be_v no_o simple_a fellow_n nor_o gross_a companion_n that_o he_o have_v no_o purpose_n nor_o intention_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n to_o admit_v any_o doubt_n concern_v purgatory_n real_o and_o pure_o conceive_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o only_o concern_v some_o accidental_a respect_n for_o say_v he_o
negandum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la &c._n &c._n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o some_o man_n decease_a have_v relief_n by_o the_o piety_n of_o their_o live_a friend_n etc._n etc._n 24._o now_o what_o a_o absurdity_n be_v it_o in_o s._n augustine_n to_o affirm_v with_o great_a confidence_n that_o some_o soul_n be_v relieve_v by_o the_o piety_n of_o their_o friend_n and_o yet_o to_o be_v in_o doubt_n whether_o there_o be_v any_o distinct_a estate_n of_o soul_n afflict_v with_o a_o temporal_a pain_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v more_o probable_a that_o s._n augustine_n be_v thus_o carry_v into_o a_o brainless_a conceit_n or_o that_o the_o protestant_n derive_v his_o word_n against_o his_o clear_a purpose_n i_o remit_v i_o unto_o your_o ingenious_a and_o wise_a determination_n 25._o mean_a while_n i_o shall_v entreat_v d._n field_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o one_o question_n which_o i_o desire_v long_o since_o to_o propose_v unto_o he_o and_o to_o crave_v his_o plain_n resolution_n therein_o without_o ambiguous_a or_o perplex_a speech_n forasmuch_o as_o s._n augustine_n do_v often_o and_o constant_o deliver_v unto_o we_o not_o only_o by_o the_o know_a instruction_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o by_o the_o certain_a evidence_n of_o holy_a scripture_n that_o there_o be_v a_o temporal_a pain_n inflict_v upon_o some_o soul_n in_o a_o future_a estate_n why_o do_v d._n field_n conceal_v this_o point_n from_o his_o reader_n and_o why_o do_v he_o 7â—_n he_o pag_n 7â—_n muster_v up_o such_o sentenes_n only_o as_o bear_v a_o show_n of_o doubt_n and_o then_o make_v a_o pretence_n that_o augustine_n do_v doubting_o run_v into_o purgatory_n and_o that_o he_o doubtful_o broach_v a_o opinion_n which_o give_v occasion_n to_o the_o papist_n heresy_n in_o this_o matter_n beside_o if_o the_o papist_n be_v as_o great_o proud_a as_o etc._n as_o pag._n 71._o 170._o 1â—9_n in_o epist_n dediâ—_n etc._n etc._n d._n field_n do_v earnest_o object_v this_o crime_n unto_o they_o yet_o be_v they_o so_o foolish_a and_o obtuse_a also_o that_o they_o will_v rather_o assume_v this_o doctrine_n from_o s._n augustine_n doubtful_a sentence_n then_o from_o his_o perspicuous_a and_o irrefragable_a authority_n in_o this_o behalf_n 26._o to_o conclude_v this_o second_o branch_n of_o d._n fields_n accusation_n it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o consider_v with_o i_o that_o as_o piety_n do_v oblige_v we_o to_o reconcile_v all_o place_n of_o sacred_a scripture_n which_o seem_v to_o imply_v any_o contradiction_n in_o such_o manner_n that_o the_o truth_n of_o each_o may_v be_v inviolable_o preserve_v according_a to_o the_o intendment_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n case_n see_v zanch._n de_fw-fr redemp_n in_o quaest_n de_fw-fr inuocat_fw-la sanct._n what_o rule_v he_o prescribe_v in_o this_o case_n so_o wisdom_n do_v prescribe_v unto_o we_o that_o no_o doubtful_a sentence_n in_o the_o father_n shall_v be_v expound_v or_o admit_v against_o their_o certain_a doctrine_n in_o other_o place_n and_o special_o when_o it_o be_v strengthen_v by_o the_o public_a approbation_n of_o the_o church_n for_o as_o it_o be_v a_o singular_a impiety_n in_o luther_n and_o in_o his_o true_a disciple_n to_o reject_v the_o epistle_n of_o s._n james_n upon_o a_o suppose_a or_o seem_a 2.24_o seem_a we_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n without_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n rom._n 3.28_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o work_n and_o not_o by_o faith_n only_o james_n 2.24_o contradiction_n therein_o against_o s._n paul_n whence_o 9_o whence_o see_v duraeus_n in_o respon_n ad_fw-la whitaâ—â—run_n pag._n 9_o pomeranus_n in_o his_o lutheranicall_a violence_n say_v that_o the_o author_n of_o s._n james_n his_o epistle_n bring_v a_o impious_a argument_n and_o make_v a_o ridiculous_a collection_n allege_v scripture_n contrary_a unto_o scripture_n and_o thus_o he_o renounce_v a_o part_n of_o holy_a write_v with_o extreme_a defiance_n so_o it_o be_v a_o remarqueable_a folly_n in_o any_o man_n to_o enforce_v conclusion_n out_o of_o some_o obscure_a or_o dubious_a place_n in_o the_o father_n sense_v against_o their_o evident_a and_o perpetual_a doctrine_n elsewhere_o a_o course_n which_o the_o chief_a protestant_n despise_v and_o contemn_v in_o the_o puritan_n at_o this_o day_n 27._o in_o the_o three_o branch_n of_o this_o accusation_n d._n field_n be_v very_o injurious_a unto_o the_o dignity_n of_o this_o bless_a and_o renown_a father_n for_o he_o know_v that_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o fearful_o impugn_v this_o error_n viz._n all_o right_o believe_v christian_n shall_v find_v mercy_n in_o the_o end_n whatsoever_o their_o wickedness_n be_v etc._n etc._n inasmuch_o as_o many_o testimony_n be_v extant_a in_o his_o 26._o his_o enchiâ—id_n ad_fw-la lauâ—_n c._n 67._o de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o opeâ—_n c._n 15._o de_fw-fr civit_n dei_fw-la l._n 21._o c._n 26._o work_n whereby_o it_o do_v appear_v that_o he_o disclaim_v it_o absolute_o and_o disproove_v it_o full_o howbeit_o he_o be_v modest_a and_o temperate_a in_o his_o dispute_n and_o not_o of_o that_o rusticity_n as_o our_o brethren_n in_o luther_n and_o caluins_n gospel_n who_o like_o cadmaean_a upstart_n convulnerate_v themselves_o with_o mutual_a reproach_n whereby_o they_o be_v expose_v unto_o a_o public_a and_o just_a contempt_n 28._o but_o now_o o_o latimer_n o_o this_o honour_n may_v be_v as_o due_o give_v by_o i_o unto_o s._n augustine_n as_o it_o be_v give_v by_o m._n rogers_n in_o his_o cathol_n doctr_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la nun_n 4_o unto_o m._n latimer_n sacred_a and_o reverend_a augustine_n i_o will_v turn_v my_o speech_n unto_o thy_o religious_a learned_a and_o excellent_a self_n do_v thou_o so_o fear_v to_o oppugn_v a_o error_n that_o thou_o do_v not_o fear_v to_o violate_v the_o truth_n can_v thou_o not_o reproove_v a_o falsehood_n in_o some_o man_n without_o give_v occasion_n of_o heresy_n unto_o other_o will_v thou_o so_o peremptory_o affirm_v and_o yet_o immediate_o doubt_v in_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o special_o the_o matter_n be_v such_o as_o in_o extension_n do_v belong_v unto_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o so_o thou_o have_v inform_v i_o and_o in_o consequence_n do_v evacuate_v christ_n merit_n for_o so_o we_o pretend_v and_o impart_v his_o office_n unto_o our_o proper_a satisfaction_n 29._o if_o this_o be_v so_o then_o 8._o then_o contra_fw-la henâ—ic_fw-la 8._o s._n luther_n have_v a_o good_a reason_n for_o his_o contemptuous_a demand_n quis_fw-la est_fw-la augustinus_n &_o quis_fw-la nos_fw-la coget_fw-la illi_fw-la credere_fw-la who_o be_v augustine_n and_o who_o shall_v compel_v we_o to_o believe_v he_o if_o this_o be_v not_o so_o why_o then_o do_v we_o traduce_v thy_o glorious_a name_n to_o destroy_v the_o ancient_a faith_n and_o why_o do_v we_o depress_v thy_o incomparable_a worth_n to_o sustain_v our_o ruinous_a cause_n §_o 3._o s._n hierome_n abuse_v by_o d._n field_n 1._o i_o come_v unto_o the_o three_o doctor_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n s._n hierome_n who_o our_o great_a reformer_n do_v not_o only_o 22._o only_o luth._o in_o gen._n 22._o trample_v under_o his_o foot_n but_o also_o theol._n also_o luth._o in_o colloq_fw-la convival_n in_o cap._n de_fw-fr scholast_n theol._n expel_v out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o doctor_n and_o pronounce_v he_o to_o be_v a_o heretic_n for_o thus_o he_o honour_v and_o reverence_v the_o father_n much_o more_o than_o the_o romanist_n do_v 2._o though_o d._n field_n have_v moderate_v his_o stile_n towards_o s._n hierome_n and_o use_v the_o testimony_n of_o this_o saint_n at_o his_o pleasure_n dismiss_v he_o which_o a_o more_o gentle_a imputation_n say_v that_o 166._o that_o pag._n 166._o hierome_n be_v a_o man_n of_o a_o violent_a spirit_n yet_o as_o the_o abuse_n which_o he_o offer_v unto_o he_o in_o the_o question_n of_o purgatory_n be_v subtle_a in_o the_o manner_n and_o hateful_a in_o the_o matter_n thereof_o so_o he_o do_v plain_o discover_v his_o affection_n towards_o the_o truth_n and_o the_o father_n to_o be_v such_o that_o he_o neither_o respect_v how_o vain_o he_o do_v elude_v the_o first_o nor_o how_o unconscionable_o he_o do_v entreat_v the_o second_o mark_v therefore_o present_o therefore_o pag._n 79._o this_o opinion_n he_o put_v upon_o s._n hierome_n as_o you_o shall_v see_v present_o his_o artificial_a passage_n which_o here_o ensue_v 3._o it_o be_v a_o error_n of_o sundry_a of_o the_o ancient_n that_o all_o catholic_n christian_n how_o wicked_o so_o ever_o they_o live_v yet_o hold_v the_o fundation_n of_o true_a christian_a profession_n shall_v in_o the_o end_n after_o great_a torman_n endure_v in_o world_n to_o come_v be_v save_v as_o it_o be_v by_o fire_n they_o dare_v not_o say_v as_o origen_n that_o the_o angel_n who_o fall_v opinion_n note_v these_o 4._o opinion_n shall_v be_v restore_v in_o the_o end_n nor_o as_o some_o other_o that_o all_o man_n whether_o christian_n or_o infidel_n nor_o as_o a_o three_o fort_n that_o all_o