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A52048 The power of the civil magistrate in matters of religion vindicated the extent of his power determined in a sermon preached before the first Parliament on a monthly fast day / by ... Mr. Stephen Marshall ... / published by G. Firmin ... with notes upon the sermon. Marshall, Stephen, 1594?-1655.; Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697. 1657 (1657) Wing M769; ESTC R31209 38,128 52

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book_n their_o practice_n smithfield_n and_o many_o other_o place_n in_o england_n where_o our_o glorious_a martyr_n have_v suffer_v declare_v sufficient_o what_o their_o judgement_n be_v for_o the_o calvinist_n gerhard_n a_o learned_a lutheran_n give_v they_o a_o nip_n as_o if_o they_o vary_v their_o judgement_n 775_o according_a to_o the_o variety_n of_o condition_n they_o be_v under_o calvinianos_fw-la quod_fw-la attinet_fw-la ille_fw-la pro_fw-la rerum_fw-la ac_fw-la fortunae_fw-la diversitate_fw-la diversas_fw-la proferunt_fw-la sententias_fw-la if_o thing_n go_v ill_a on_o their_o side_n if_o they_o be_v under_o the_o popish_a power_n than_o they_o use_v these_o rule_n no_o man_n must_v be_v compel_v to_o believe_v it_o be_v antichristian_a tyranny_n to_o rule_v over_o man_n conscience_n etc._n etc._n but_o if_o thing_n go_v well_o on_o their_o side_n that_o they_o have_v the_o civil_a power_n with_o they_o erumpunt_fw-la in_fw-la sanguinariam_fw-la illam_fw-la vocem_fw-la haereticos_fw-la esse_fw-la occidendos_fw-la yet_o gerhard_n be_v not_o of_o that_o mind_n that_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v let_v heretic_n alone_o he_o be_v far_o from_o this_o opinion_n he_o distinguish_v between_o seducer_n and_o the_o seduce_a 744._o so_o do_v we_o between_o error_n fundamental_a and_o not_o fundamental_a i_o wish_v he_o have_v set_v these_o down_o that_o we_o may_v know_v they_o but_o though_o he_o have_v not_o do_v it_o here_o i_o find_v among_o other_o lutheran_n where_o he_o be_v quote_v that_o he_o take_v some_o doctrine_n for_o fundamental_a error_n which_o other_o will_v not_o believe_v to_o be_v error_n at_o all_o thus_o calovius_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o that_o question_n num_fw-la lutherani_fw-la cum_fw-la reformatis_fw-la et_fw-la socinianis_fw-la in_fw-la unam_fw-la coire_fw-la possint_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la 942._o he_o exclude_v not_o only_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o other_o sectary_n but_o even_o the_o calvinist_n give_v his_o reason_n though_o he_o do_v we_o wrong_v in_o some_o of_o those_o doctrine_n he_o name_v especial_o as_o he_o lay_v they_o down_o he_o distinguish_v between_o the_o time_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o the_o n._n t._n under_o the_o old_a t._n the_o magistrate_n may_v put_v heretic_n to_o death_n not_o under_o the_o n._n t._n say_v he_o but_o i_o believe_v he_o will_v get_v nothing_o by_o this_o distinction_n he_o distingish_v between_o simple_a heretic_n and_o heretic_n that_o be_v seditious_a and_o vomit_n out_o plain_a blasphemy_n against_o god_n these_o he_o deny_v not_o but_o the_o magistrate_n must_v put_v to_o death_n with_o who_o agree_v dr._n ames_n 15._o ground_v his_o sentence_n upon_o levit._n 24.15_o 16._o also_o mr._n cotton_n *_o 95._o if_o the_o idolater_n or_o heretic_n grow_v obstinate_a wax_v worse_o and_o worse_o deceive_v himself_o and_o other_o to_o the_o destroy_n corrupt_n and_o disturb_v of_o other_o now_o the_o magistrate_n make_v use_v not_o of_o stock_n and_o whip_n for_o these_o do_v not_o remove_v but_o exasperate_v the_o malady_n but_o of_o death_n or_o banishment_n etc._n etc._n that_o speech_n of_o the_o heathen_a king_n artaxerxes_n ezra_n 7.26_o seem_v to_o look_v this_o way_n and_o whosoever_o will_v not_o do_v the_o law_n of_o thy_o god_n and_o the_o law_n of_o the_o king_n which_o law_n i_o conceive_v be_v this_o law_n of_o his_o concerning_o the_o house_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n let_v judgement_n be_v execute_v speedy_o upon_o he_o whither_o it_o be_v unto_o death_n or_o to_o banishment_n or_o to_o confiscation_n of_o good_n ●or_a to_o imprisonment_n also_o nebuchadnezar_n decree_n dan._n 3.29_o though_o the_o athenian_n err_v in_o the_o misapplication_n of_o that_o principle_n when_o they_o condemn_v socrates_n yet_o that_o act_n show_v that_o magistrate_n be_v teach_v even_o by_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n to_o take_v care_n of_o religion_n and_o of_o their_o god_n so_o far_o as_o to_o punish_v severe_o blasphemer_n of_o god_n and_o corrupter_n of_o religion_n but_o to_o let_v that_o knotty_a question_n alone_o herein_o i_o be_o sure_a our_o author_n with_o all_o other_o sober_a man_n both_o lutheran_n and_o calvinist_n classical_a and_o congregational_a divine_v agree_v viz._n first_o that_o magistrate_n ought_v not_o to_o countenance_n but_o discountenance_n and_o repress_v heretic_n gerhard_n who_o be_v so_o stiff_a against_o the_o punish_n of_o simple_a heresy_n with_o death_n 599._o yet_o make_v this_o the_o magistrate_n duty_n to_o inquire_v after_o these_o seduce_v heretic_n that_o they_o may_v catch_v these_o fox_n who_o first_o convey_v their_o poison_n more_o secret_o before_o they_o come_v to_o appear_v open_o 23.24_o bless_a burrough_n a_o man_n moderate_a enough_o yet_o say_v we_o be_v in_o a_o most_o miserable_a condition_n if_o we_o have_v no_o external_a civil_a power_n to_o restrain_v from_o ●ny_n kind_n of_o blasphemy_n and_o seducement_n the_o condition_n of_o the_o jew_n o_o how_o happy_a be_v 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