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christian_n	call_v	church_n	congregation_n	1,735	5	9.2238	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A83012	The confident questionist questioned: or, the examination of the doctrine delivered by Mr. Thomas Willes in certain queries. Published by Mr. Jeremiah Ives. Examined by counter-queries. By N.E. with a letter of Mr. Tho. Willes.	N. E.	1658 (1658)	Wing E18; Thomason E934_3; ESTC R207678	33,986	58

invested is not your Query in short this If one bee fit for part of the office but not for the whole if fit to preach but not to rule why may hee not exercise that hee is fit for out of office I answer from the same place 1 Tim. 3.2 3. what if one be the Husband of many Wives what if given to Wine a meer drunkard and so is unfit to bee admitted to office why may hee not exercise his gift of preaching if God hath blest him with it why doth His Highness turn such out why may not ignorant yea prophan persons that may be fit to rule in your Church at least for some acts of government do that they are able or fit for these Queries have the same foundation with yours Again ought you not to prove that preaching is not an act of the Ministerial Office 2 Or that acts of Office may bee performed by him that hath not that office 3 Or that acts of Office may bee communicated 4 Yea and that where the whole Office it self ought not to be-conferred when you were a souldier you left off box-making when a Cheesmonger souldiering and is not this Query one ground why since you were a pretended Minister as it is reported you may excuse your self from what acts of this Office you please and take the liberty of being a Chees-monger still Query 8. And whereas you say it is a sin for people to hear such as are not ordained except as before excepted I quere Whether there is any Law of God broken when I hear the truth of Christ preached by any that are not ordained if so shew mee where that Law is to bee found Counter-Query As to your Query concerning the peoples sin in hearing unordained men I Quere If hee that preacheth sinneth in usurping that act of the Ministerial Office then do not they sin that shall wittingly and willingly submit to this usurpation in hearing if hee hath no lawful call to preach Rom. 10.15 can they have a lawful call to hear is not the receiver as bad as the theef Query 9. Whether or no Apollos did not preach the Gospel as is recorded Act. 18.24 25 26 27 28. publickly and frequently and whether hee could hee an Officer of the Church at that time seeing hee knew ONELY the baptisme of John or was not acquainted with the baptisme of the Spirit therefore pray shew us that hee was at this time an Officer or else that hee preached for approbation to it or that hee preached by vertue of any necessity By vertue of necessity hee did not preach for there were able Christians before such as the Text saith did instruct him And if hee preached at this time as an Officer or for approbation thereunto pray shew how that appears Counter-Query Ought you not to have answered what Dr. Seaman Mr. Gilespy Chemnitius c. have answered to this is it not the part of an unwise man to aske that which hath been so often answered without the least shew of a new cause of dissatisfaction shall we not suppose you intended to seduce the Vulgar that read not books But not to shun your strength Is this a good Argument Apollos taught in a Jewish Synagogue where wee read of but two Christians Aquila and Priscilla and those Paul brought with him therefore a gifted brother may teach in our Christian Congregations Can a particular example in a Church not constituted bee a rule for ordinary practice in a Church constituted Again is it not evident that Apollos was in Office and therefore call'd a Minister 1 Cor. 3.5 therefore to sift it more narrowly how will you prove Apollos not to bee in Office 1 Must you not prove either that hee was no Priest for they were the ordinary Teachers in the Synagogues or that hee had not given any testimony to the Jews that hee was a Prophet for these likewise had that liberty had they not such apprehensions of Christ and his Apostles because of their miracles or else are you not bound to shew upon what account besides the Jews let him teach in the Synagogue was hee not thus in Office 2 Must you not prove that John did not authorize him to teach if hee was not acquainted as you say with the Baptisme of the Spirit if hee had not those Gospel gifts that not only enabled but stirred up men to preach if hee was not informed of such a duty or work if likewise you consider how suddainly hee undertook it as his duty without any sollicitations is it not very probable hee was sent by John and if so must you not prove that Johns mission to Apollos was not as vallid as his Baptisme to Christ was he not thus in Office 3 Ought you not to prove that there was no necessity which we both agree is sufficient to authorize As 1 Was there any constituted organical Church and Officers in it to preach 2 Or was the Apostolical institution as yet practis'd there 3 Or were any there to ordain him 4 Or did hee know of such a thing to bee had from the Apostles or others 5 Was there not need and a way open to teach was not here evident necessity then if all or but some of these stand if so did hee preach as a meer gifted Brother 4 How will you prove that even then hee was not called or in office when you consider these particulars 1 'T is very certain hee was in Office For 1 Can you deny but that hee did the work of an Evangelist in watering those Churches Paul had planted 1 Cor. 3.6 and that he was to have been sent by Paul as Timothy was 1 Cor. 16.12 2 Was not his worth and name the head of a faction as was Pauls I am of Paul I of Apollos c. 1 Cor. 1.12 was hee then an ordinary gifted brother 3 Is hee not called in express termes a Minister and that in the same sense that Paul was 1 Cor. 3.5 He was an Officer then sure 2 Do you ever finde hee had any call to this Office after his preaching here Act. 18.24 25. if so shew it I pray 3 Do not these things prove that he was in Office now 1 Why did not Aquila teach then and rather than Apollos for though Apollos was eloquent and mighty in the Scriptures yet Aquila taught him verse 26. give then any rational account why Apollos rather preach't than Aquila if it were not because Apollos was in Office and Aquila not surely Apollos being so ignorant his eloquence could not make him more fit to teach than Aquila's knowledge of the Gospel 2 Was it not upon this account of his Office that the brethren in Achaia are written to to receive him to help them v. 27. especially if you compare it with Mat. 10.40 41. Where you see that such receiving is put for owning as an Officer 3 Why may wee not say that his HELPING them which beleeved THROUGH GRACE hinteth to us his Office and Call