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A19656	The confutation of the mishapen aunswer to the misnamed, wicked ballade, called the Abuse of ye blessed sacrame[n]t of the aultare Wherin, thou haste (gentele reader) the ryghte vnderstandynge of al the places of scripture that Myles Hoggard, (wyth his learned counsail) hath wrested to make for the transubstanciation of the bread and wyne. Compiled by Robert Crowley. Anno. 1548.	Crowley, Robert, 1518?-1588.; Huggarde, Miles.	1548 (1548)	STC 6082; ESTC S109117	58,868	100

thou shalt cal hys name Iesus Thys shal be greate a●d shal be called the son of y ● highest and the Lorde God shall geue hym the ●eate of Dauid hys father and he shall reigne in the house of Iacobe for euer his king●dome shal haue none ende An other testimonie y ● wordes of the angel vnto Ioseph when he had thought to haue put awaye his despoused wyfe priuilie because he perceyued hir to be wyth chylde knoweynge that he neuer compayned wyth hyr Ioseph said the angel thou son of Dauid feare not to take to y ● Mary thy wyfe For the thing that is bourne in hyr is of y ● holy gost she shall brynge forth asonne and thou shalte call hys name Iesus for he shall make salfe hys people frome theyr sinnes Agayne the angell of the Lorde sayed vnto the herd men in thys wise F●are ye not for lo I preache vnto you great ioye which shal chaūce vnto al the people For this day is borne to you a sauiour whiche is Christ the anoynted Lord in y ● Citie of Dauid Simeō An y ● prophetes y ● wismē y ● of ●ast the witnes of Iohn Baptist the voice o● y ● father frome heauē do declare this same son of Marye to be the sonne of the virgyne spoken of before by the prophet Wherfore I beleue that Marie brought forth a childe without los of virginitie because Iesus the firste borne of hir bodie was by these testimonies declared to be the some seede that was promised to be borne of a virgyne Wel by al thys it is plaine that in thys poynte reasonne is not captiuated but driueth vs to beleue because the spiri●e of trueth hath prophecied it and so many wytnessed wyth one assent confirmed it Ryght so do I saye of the sacrament If you can fynde me but one of the prophetes that hath sayed that any thynge that semeth not to haue lyfe shoulde speake and that the hostes in the pyxe be by the testimonies of the scriptures proued to be the same then wyll I not captiuate reasone but wylbe led by reasone to beleue that the same hostes as you cal them be not dombe other wyse you must pardone me though I beleue not that they can speake ●yll suche tyme ●o I do either heare them speake my selfe or else learne it by the reporte of some credible persone that hath hearde them speake Thys haue I spoken to con●ent your expectacion for the dombnesse of your goddes because I perceyue by your similitude that you are altogether ●leshely and perceiue not the spirite that is in the authour of the ballad Dombe he calleth them because as you vse them they be taken for gods and are but dōbe ceremonies or signes That is to saye haueynge no lyu●lye signification wherby the people that shoulde receyue them myght be edified Theyr naturall propritie is to preache and declare vnto vs the vnitie of christians in the bodie and bloude of Christ by fayth more plainely then can be declared with wordes For wha●●onge can be able to declare the misterie of the misticall bodye of Christe his churche and congregacion so playnely wyth wordes as it is declared by the breade beinge but one breade made of many graynes and the wyne beynge but one cup of wyne made of manye grapes Take a waye these liuely signifi●acions therfore and what other thynge shall remayne but dombe ceremonies and signes declareinge nothynge to the edificacion of the receiuers but holdeynge them styll in supersticion vnder the name of gods Trulye and iustly therfore hath he called them dombe gods for that they are wythout significacion and beare the name of gods beynge in dede neither gods nor goddes ordinaunces as you and your miscreaūt fayth felowes do vse them Then conclude you vpon an inconuenience saying If Christ might ●e sen in the sacramēt as he walked here then coulde not oure fayeth merite any thynge in beleueinge that we se not Graciousely considered You are loeth we shoulde losse the merite of oure fayeth You woulde rather we shoulde beleue that good is iuell iuil good blacke white white blacke that lyghte is darkenes and darkensse lyghte yea that god is breade and breade God But nowe it were wysedome to make a distinction of meriteinge and then to knowe howe thys faith of yours meriteth that we may be bolde to cal for our reward whē the vniuersal iudge shall geue to eche one accordeynge to his merites Ther be .ii. kyndes of meritinge therfore y ● is to saye of good and of iuel The good kynde of meriteynge is by Christe thorowe Christe for Christe and in Christe That is by casteing all oure 〈◊〉 vpon him o●elye 〈…〉 continually beaten and crucified before our e●es and crucifiynge our selues to the worlde haueinge o● or trust in oure ●elfe anye worcke that we can do or any other for vs settyng vp anye in heauen erth or hell to be equalle or partener wyth hym but beleueings and confesseing him ●o be all in all thyng●s the on●lye creatour and maker the onelye and tree geuer of all goodnes and the onely peac● maker betwene God and vs. The other kynde of meriting● is by Sathan the worlde and the fleshe contrarie in all poyntes to this That is to saye takynge all care vpon oureselues sekeing● waye● to cru●i●ie and offer vp Christ agayn● and refu●eynge to crucifie oure 〈◊〉 haueynge all ●ruste in oure owne work●● and other creatur●s merites makeing the deabe saync●es opteiners of mercie throughe theyr praiers and merites Yea makinge them mediatou●s peace makers betwene god vs. Now let the godly learned iudge by whiche of these ●ow wayes thys fayth of yours meriteth You captiuate reasone you saye beleue that in the sacramentes of the bodie and bloud of Christ remayneth neither breade nor wyne but the verie bodye and bloude of Christe yea whole Christe god and man bodie and soule And then I dou●te not your rea●one this captiuated you wyll wyth your forefathers the founders of thys your opinion make it a sacrific● propicia●orye for the quicke and deade for plage penurie and all kyndes of deseases ▪ For hauei●ge the inmaculate and vnspotted lambe as you saye euen the sonne of the lyueyng God conceiued and borne of the immaculate virgyne what shoulde let you to ●effr him 〈◊〉 God hys father ● placable sacrifice for 〈◊〉 these thynges to content the ineuitable wrat● of God bent towardes vs for the iniquitie tha● reigneth in the worlde And so doeth thys fayth of yours dryue you to seke other way●s of saluacion then by the onelye Sacri●ice of Christe once offered for all You wyllbe styl offeryng of hym whome none can offer but hym selfe And al because you haue cap●iuated your rea●one to beleue that you haue hym here vppon yearth in suche maner that you may Sacrifice hym Nowe tell me what thys fayeth of yours meriteth It leadeth you from the sure tru●te in the onely sacrifice that Christe made

belieue more firmly than all my Lorde your maisters faggottes can remoue out of oure hertes We shal speake more largelye of thys matier in the confutacion of your answere to the ballad OF late a new balad came to my hand ●ompyled by a ●al●e christen man As it is easye for to vnderstāde In y ● so madly he doth y ● thinge scan Whiche ●e reproueth but here after Ye do rea●e the answere it shal apeare whā What deuilishe doctrine he hath written here And because hys errour shal be sene playn Eche staff of hys tyme I wyl answere so That then he shall haue no cause to cōplayne For all hys hole pro●esse as it doeth go I wyll wryt forth and not adde one worde m● In than swere wherof he shall se euident How wycke●lye hys tyme in it he hath spent And nowe for hys matter to en●er in As after foloweth it doeth begin The confutacion You enter into your mattier as though you had bene at schole wyth Tertullus y ● ora●our that accused Paule before Felyx the debtie A faulse christian you saye hath made a ballad a fonde talker a wrytter of diuillishe doctrine one that hath spent his tyme wickedlye in writeynge thys ballad But your maister 〈◊〉 had one caste that you lacke He had substanciall men euen of the auldermen of Ierus●lem to wittynesse wyth hym that all was true that he ●ayed I am a f●ade the auldermen of o●don wyll not do so by you Wel you saye he is a false christian but because you haue no recorde I dare not beleue you For if ye be remembrede you complayned in your preface of the greate numbre of enimes that the sacamentes of Christ haue and ye● in conclusion it was proued that theyr was none so greate and enimie as your selfe Euen so 〈◊〉 this poynte I will not swere for you For he that is tried to be an enimie to Christes sacramen●●s is not lyke to be a true Christian. Come nere the light therfore that we maye deserne whether your heare be naturall or conterfaite A woulfe maye haue a shepes fell one his backe and so I feare me you haue But we shall not be desce●ued in you for oure mayster Christe hath appoynted vs tokens to knowe you By theyr fruites sayth he you shal know them They do the workes of theyr fath●r the diuell who was an homiside or manquellar euen frome the beginninge The greate desire that you haue to shed mans bloude declareth your nature The name of a christian can not make you aper●it christiā a shepe of his flock No thoughe ye go in companie wyth the shepe of Christe euen to theyr pasture and feadyng yet so long as ye be ashepebyter we can not take you for other then a woulfe though you were lapped in .iiii. sh●pe skynes The true christians are in this world as lambes in the middes amonge woulfes All they therfore that be as woulfes amonge lambes are false christians If you therfore do knowe the Authour of this Ballad to be such one thē may you iustby call hym a false christian other wise you slaunder hym Certayne fruites ther be wherby these false christians be knowne whych if I fynde in you ye must pardone me thoughe I translate this name from hym to you as to hym that is most worthye to beare it The fyrst of these fruites is delite in outwarde holinesse whiche Christ reprehended in the phariseis An other is the faruent zeale to set forth mans doctryne and to measure the scripture therb● which was rebuked in them also The thyrde and last is the gloriyng in their owne Iustice and merites sekeynge satisfacions besides Christ either by thē selues or other Whyche was the cōmune faute of the Iewes Whether these fruites may be foūde in you frende Hogarde let them iudge that knowe your opiniō in al matters which I doubt not as many as shall diligently reade and marke your answere shal ▪ doe And to make the matt●er more playne I shall vpon occasiō geuen some what note in the cōfutation of that that folowethe And when I haue shewed your fruites I shall desyre you not to● stomake the matter ▪ thoughe I saye as the trneth is that a false christian hath defamed a faythfull brother As for the scanninge of his mattier madly as you saye shal appear in the progresse In the meane tyme I shall desyre you to cal to yonr remembraunce your Deprofundis settyng it before your eies as a matier madly scanned tyll I haue scanned your mysshapen answere and then if you luste put of your thymble and take your pen in hande and scane the mattier wyth your learned coūsell you wot whom I meane and declare your selfe to be no writter of deuyllishe doctryne and saye that you were not the father though you beare the name Yet tell them that dyd it that if they wryte agayn they shal be answered The ballade What meaneth this gyse I woulde faine here Straunge sightes in my eies there do apere ▪ Defended wyth lies boeth farre and nere Greate ruth it is The answere What this 〈◊〉 doeth meane is here straūge to me For if he be christened then dare I say That that thinge which he mak●th so straūge to be Syth he he came to reason euery day The sacrament he sawe honoure alwaye But if he be a panym than truely I ●lame hym not muche for his greate outcrye The confutacion Your answere declareth that to be tru● that 〈◊〉 w●itten by Paul to the Romayns The natur●ll man perceyueth not the thinges that be of the spirite of God You comp● it no strange syght to se the sacramēt honoured with deuine honour because in your tyme it hath ben so ho●oured I dede to the bodilie eie this sight is nothing● strange because it is a continuall obiect and dayelye re●ued Image in that christ●lli●● humour But so manie as haue the eies of the inwarde man opened wherewith they s● the true honourers and that honoure God in spirite and trueth maye well call thy● a strayng sight For sens the beginning of creatures th●re was neuer such honour sene to be g●uen to any creatur among the honours that the spirituall eie behouldeth Wherefore when it chaunceth the spiritual man to behold the abhominacions of thys worlde he maye ●ight well cal them strang thoughe they be continually in the eies of hys bodye Iustly and tru●lye therfore sayeth the authour straynge 〈◊〉 in myne eies ther do appeare yea and th●t defen●ed wyth l●es For what ●rueth can you haue to def●nde the thynge that fyghhteth wyth all trueth All trueth agreeth that the true honourers of God shall honour hym 〈◊〉 the spirite and trueth and not at Ierusal●m nor yet in the hyl of Samaria That is to say nother wyth cerimonial worship prescribed by a lawe nor yet with any outward worship inuented of their owne braynes If you haue any trueth agaynste this truthe then stande vp declare howe these straūge syghtes be defended

in the Sacrament And your errour in the place th●reof to take But nowe for your par● the better to make Ye call the truth Romyshe as though that we Had receiued it of the popyshe see ☞ The confutacion ☞ The authoure wysheth none other thinge vnto you frend Hogharde then that whyche Paul himself exhorteth al men to do that is to be his foloers as he was the folower of Christ But this part of Paul which he wisheth them to play in folowyng of hym is to conuerte as he hymself sayth from the Romysh way euen as Paul conuerted from the persecuting of the christian faith with a meke hert to obey ▪ gods truth But as for one nothyng con●ented with the thyng that he wisheth for you you stomake the matter and deny that you receiu●d it of the popysh see But yet you shew not whence you receiued it Neither do you bring anye proues other then your bare assersion that you receiued it not of the popysh see I thinke you to be one of them that vse to affirme thynges without any argument or reason for the probation thereof I wyll therfore minister you occasion in seeke vp youre argumentes and reasones against you make answer to this confutation And by your leaue I will proue that you had it frome the Romyshe see I woulde haue you therfor first to consider what thinge it is that we talke of It is not the Lordes supper but that toye of yours which you cal the blessed Sacrament of the aulter Whence that came is euident to thē that lust to se for throughout the whole Bible ther is not so much as one word of that popish inuentiō The supper of the Lord we haue ther mencioned so declared that comparyng thys toye of yours therunto we mai easely perceiue y ● they be cleane contrary The Lord at hys last supper toke bread gaue thākes brake it Your Apes take bread blowe vpō it breathinge out certaine wordes in the maner of enchaunters sorcerers to turne the substaunce therof they offer it vp for a sacrifice Christ distributed the bread among his disciples and eate none hymselfe but your Apes deuour all thē selues and geue the people none Christ celebrated his supper at the table with his disciples euen in hys common apparel But youre Apes muste haue goodly garmentes made for the nonse of al the colours of the rayn● Bowe and at sondry rymes sundry coloures Christe made no fond iestures But your Mōkers must haue crossyng kissynge beckynge douckynge turnynge trippynge with manye pretye trickes and at the last ●osse vp all slouenlye and blesse the people with the emptie cuppe Se you not howe these two agre Now let vs se whense al this grare of yours cometh Selestinus the pope ordeined the praie●● y ● the priestes your Godmakers say when they rauysh thē selues to masse Pope Damasus ordeined Confiteor Pope Gregory cau●ed Kyri●eleson to be sayd .ix. tymes together Gregory and Gelasius gathered the Col●ctes good gere I warrant you if they be well weyghed The Grayle was of the same mens doynge I trowe Telesphorus inuented the Tract Notherus the Sequences Anastasius the stāding vp at the Gospel Eutichianus the Offertory Gelacius the Preface Sextus the Sanctus Pope Leo the .iii. ordayned the Incense Also y ● Secretes of the masse are they not popes parches clouted together to make the matter more salable Gelasius made Te igitur Siritius added Communicantes Pope Alexander made Qui pridie Pope Leo Hanc igitur Gregorye made the peticions Diesque nostros The fyrst Innocen●ius ordayned the Pax ▪ Sargius the Agnus dei The first Alexander ordayned that the bread should be vnleuened And thē as you thynk whence haue we this your bable so tossed and tombled from this syde to that hoysed vp and layed downe agayn You must pardon me though I speake playne for I take al such thinges as foles delight to play wythal for no better then bables ●ut ●o put the weake brothers out of doubt y ● I cōtemne not the Lordes supper I ꝓtest y ● among the thinges ordināces y ● our sauiour christ hath left w t vs. y ● liuely word of God onely excepted ther is none more profitable for our soules comforte then it is And that therfore we oughte to frequent vse it w t al faithfulnes tre●blyng feare of y ● lord knowynge y ● if we beynge the membres of the d●ust shuld enterprise to com to the Lords table as partakers w t him we shal haue our reward with the hypocrites euen in the vtter darknes I exhort you al therfore that glory to be the membres of Christ and called Christians that in no case ye presume to receiue this holye communion vnles you be inwardly the same thing that this holy misteri declareth them to be that vse it worthely ☞ Say not therfore frend Hoghard that I rayle vpon the blessed Sacramentes of Christes body and bloud for I take God to witnes and myne owne con●ience I reuerence them as much as Gods word wylleth them to be reuerenced but that which I haue writtē is against that abuse whych the Romysh Ruffians haue set vp and would mayntayn in the sted therof The ballad Lord graūt that our head king Edward y ● sixt May bury that dead God which is pi●te And get in his stead thy supper not mixte Wi●h abuse popishe The answere Lord graūt that king Edward which ouer vs hath The chief primacie vnder christe Iesu Truely to defend the catholike fayth Which from the apostles dyd hole ensew And all heresy and popishnesse to subdwe That we may liue vnder his highnes so In the catholyke fayth which is most true that to y ● honour of god al thinges may grow I wonder much how ye durst be so bolde As to pray so for the kinges maiestie That his highnes shoulde do as ye haue tolde A deed before god of grate iniquitie Which is that the dead god pixte he may bury Ye show your selfe a true subicte in this Which doth point your king to such an office ☞ The confutacion ☞ Here you wolde seme to make a praier for the kynge contrarie to that which the authour ●aketh and yet agaynst your wyll I thynke it is the same as it is easie to be sene to al them that cā iudge vpō writtinges But afterwarde you put men out of doubte of your meaninge and saye that you meruaile the autour durst be so bolde as to appoynte his prince to suche an office as to burie the deade God that is pixte And by the same your admiracion you declare your selfe to be altogether fleshely For what spiritual mynde coulde thynke it a thinge vnworthye a christian prince to burie that is to extinguish● and put vtterly out of memorie that moste detestable Idole whiche beynge a thinge deade and without any lyuely significacion is named and taken as God But no meruaile though you be so fleshely in this matter for the chiefe of your counsayle are not ashamed openly to affirme that the godhead is a corporal substaunce because the● fynde in Genesis that man was made to the similitude and Image of God ¶ The ballad That we may espie In that signe and token Wyth spirituall eie Thy body broken And thy bloud plentious●y Shed as is spoken To bringe vs to blesse The answere Who wold thinke lo but that thys man ment well Seing that he wyshith that we may al Se christes death ther for so sayeth the gospel But yet marke hym wel and perceiue ye shall That vnder the name of this worde spiritual As his Ballad before doth playne expresse And here a signe and token he doth it cal Tak● 〈◊〉 it for nomore hymselfe doth wytnes But the catholyke fayth perfect and true Is we must beleue that in the sacrament Is not onely a sygne wher in we must vewe The death of christe with a godly intent But also that christe him selfe is present Fleshe and bloud but how that he shuld be Reason cannot teach therfore he must consent Unto fayth and then he shal it truely●se Nowe thus of this answere I make an ende Prayenge god his grea●e ●o vs both to sende FINIS Quod myles Hogherde ¶ The confutacion You haue no more to saye here but that the authoure maketh this sacrament no more but a signe wher as the catholyke fayeth you say leadeth vs to beleue that Christ is ther present flesh bloude Which thinge is verie true but not as you takeit For your words de●lare ▪ your meaneinge to be that Christes steshe and bloude shoulde be ther after suche sorte that it might be eaten sualowed in to oure bodies by the orgains of the same poynted for y ● office of eateing But our beliefe is and that according to the catho like fayth of the apostles fathers of the primatiue churche that the substaunce of the breade wherein those accidentes whiche we se do remayne is no mor but a sygne as Paul teacheth of the wonder full couplynge togither of al the membres of Christ in one mistical bodie as the breade beinge made of many graynes is but one bodie and in like maner the wyne But the spiritual presēt of Christes bodie in these sacramentes we neuer denied kno●nge that as manie as beinge the vnfayned membres of Christe do wyth sure fayth in the promyses of Christ vse these sacramētes bread and wyne accordeinge to Christes institucion and firste ordinaunce are at the same supper of the Lorde as certaynely made partakers of Christes bodie and bloud and al y ● euer he did or deserued for vs in the flesh as theye are partakers of that sacramenttal bread and wine To thys fayth do we consent wishing y ● it woulde please the Lorde to open the eie of you and your councollour that you may se and consente to the same Finis Imprînted at London by Ihon Day and William Seres dwellyng in Sepulchres Parish at the signe of the Resurrectiō a litle aboue Holbourne Conduite ☞ Cum gratia priuilegio adimprimendum sol●n 〈…〉 Luk● ● Apoca. l. Luke xxii