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B00718 A conference of the Catholike and Protestante doctrine with the expresse words of Holie Scripture. Which is the second parte of the prudentiall balance of religion. : VVherein is clearely shewed, that in more than 260 points of controuersie, Catholicks agree with the Holie Scripture, both in words and sense: and Protestants disagree in both, and depraue both the sayings, words, and sense of Scripture. / Written first in Latin, but now augmented and translated into English.; Collatio doctrinae Catholicorum ac Protestantium cum expressis S. Scripturae verbis. English. 1631 Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1631 (1631) STC 22810; ESTC S123294 532,875 801

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doth not acknowledge twoe Churches the one visible in which euen the reprobate are an other inuisible in which onely those are who are predestinated of God to saluation he is much deceaued Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 124. One distinction separateth the true and internall Church of Christ which wholy consisteth of the elect and true beleiuers from the extern●ll companie of professors which often times hath manie reprobates albeit also it may be not without cause called the true Church of Christ by reason of professing true doctrine And seing all Protestants deuide the Church into visible and inuisible and do not onely professe that the inuisible Church is a true Church but also sometimes call the visible a true Church properly so termed and the sp●use and bodie of Christ as I shewed l. de Authore Protestant Eccles 2. cap. 6. they must needs confesse that they make Visible and inuisible Church distinct In partes twoe true Churches militant which in their opinion differ in partes or members in definition and in manie proprieties For according to them the partes or mēbers of the inuisible Church are onely iust and predestinate men partes or members of the visible Church are both iust and vniust predestinate and reprobate The definition of the inuisible Church is this A Societie in iustifying faith and predestination The definition of the visible this In Definitiō A Societie in profession of true faith and lawfull vse of Sacraments The inuisible is knowne onely to God The visible to God and mē also Against the inuisible the gates In Proprieties of hell cannot preuaile against the visible they may She cannot be led into error at lest not into fundamentall error This may She cannot wholy perish this may She is beleiued of Protestants in the Creed not this She hath no visible notes whereby she may be distinguished from other Societies this hath If therefore both these Societies be true Churches before God there must needs be twoe true militante Churches For one cannot differ from it selfe in partes definition and in so manie and so great proprieties THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainly saieth that Christs fould is one that Christians are one misticall bodie Catholiks say the same Protestants plainly say that there are twoe Churches a twoefould Church one of the wicked an other of good or one of the predestinate an other of the reprobate that there is this and that Church visible and inuisible ART VII WHETHER BAD MEN MAY be in the true Church SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Math. 13. ver 47. The kingdome of heauen is like to a net cast B●d men in the Church into the sea and gathering together of all kinde of fishes Which when it was filled drawing it forth and sitting by the shore they chose out the good into vessels but the badde they cast out So shall it be in the consummation of the world Matth. 3. v. 12. Whose fanne is in his hand and he shall cleane Chaffe in Gods flore purge his flore and will gather his wheat into the barne but the chaffe he will burne with vnquenchable fire 1. Cor. 6. v. 15. Know you not that your bodies are the members of Christ Taking therefore the members of Christ shall I make them the mēbers of an harlot God forbidde c. 10. v. 17. For All Communicants one bodie being manie we are one bread one bodie all that participate of one bread The same is euident by what hath beene saied before of Iudas CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton Controu 1. q. 2. art 5. The orthodoxall sentence is that the true Church which we beleiue in our Creed consisteth of good and badde PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Cont. 2. q. 1. cap. 7. The Church consisteth of the The bad no members of the Church good onely The bad are not members of the true Church c. 11. The godlie are no more ioyned in one bodie with the wicked then light with darknesse Christ with Belial c. 13. In the triumphāt Church are onely good so likewise in the militant Et q. 5. c. 3. The wicked Belonge to the Church belong not to the Church of God Rainalds thes 4. The wicked are no parte of the bodie of Christ therefore nether of the Church And in Apologia thes pag. 244. The Church proposed in the Creed containeth onely Saintes Apologia Conf. Augustan de Eccles The wicked cannot be the Church Luther in Psal 118. tom 7. Who hath not true faith is not a Pertaine not to the Church Saint and iust pertaineth not to the holie Church Caluin 4. Instit c. 1. § 7. None are admitted into that which is indeed the Church before God but they who by grace of adoption are the Sonnes of God Peter Martyr in locis clas 4. c. 1. § 1. We auouch that such Not partes of the Church men wicked are not indeed and before God partes of the Church In 1. Cor. 1. Onely Saintes are truely and before God of the Church the wicked in onely shew and not indeed belonge to the Church Daneus Cont. 4. p. 706. That which is the true Church consisteth of Saintes alone Volanus l. 3. cont Scargam Confesse that in name onely In name onely members of the Church and not indeed as thou falsely thinkest they are reputed amongst the members of the Church of God who being by nature goates are hidden vnder the name of Christs sheepe in his flock And he addeth that such are worthily iudged to couer themselues with the vaine and vnprofitable maske of the Church Musculus in locis tit de Eccles Not so much as the name of the Church is to be giuen to the wicked and reprobate THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that badde men are in the Church as badde fishes in the net and as chaffe in the flore that the bodies of those Christians who commit fornicatiō are members of Christ that all who eate of one Eucharisticall bread are one bodie Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely teach that badde mē are not members of the true Church pertaine not to the holie Church are not indeed before God partes of the Church onely in shew and not indeed belonge to the Church in name onely and not indeed are reputed among the members of the Church couer thēselues with the vaine maske of the Church deserue not so much as the name of the Church that they are not ioyned in one bodie with the godlie are no parte of the bodie of Christ That the Church the Church proposed in the Creed the Church indeed and before God the true Church consisteth onely of good men and Saints ART III. WHETHER REPROBATES may be in true Church SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. The parables cited in the former article of the net and Reprobates in Gods net in his flore and his disciples the flore and the example of Iudas shew manifestly that reprobates may be in the true Church CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY
that what the Scripture simply saieth is the bodie and blood of Christ Protestāts say is onely ostensiuely or in shew onely figurasiuely by resemblance and no otherwaies but metonymically not properly no otherwise then a keye is a house is the bodie and blood of Christ Fourthly they cōtradict the holie Scripture in that they denie that Christs bodie is present in the Supper in the Eucharist in the Eucharisticall bread or in the Sacrament in which according to Christs words it was so present as he badde his Apostles take it with their hands and eate it The Pseudosynod of London in Hospin part 2. Histor d. 220. No faithfull man ought to beleiue or professe the reall Reall presence not to be beleiued Christs bodie not in the Sacrament Not present in substance and substantiall presence of Christs flesh in the Eucharist Whitaker in Respons ad Demonstr Sanderi pag. 741. Christs bodie is not in the Sacrament nor in infinite Sacraments Iuel Defens Apol. p. 221. Thus is Christs bodie present not really nor in suhstance but onely in misterie Agayne As Christ is present in the one Sacrament of Baptisme euen so and none otherwise is he present in the other of the Eucharist which Absent in bodie he repeateth p. 264. And p. 234. Christ is present in maiestie absent in bodie 272. By abuse of speech they say the bodie of As the people in the Cuppe Christ is laied vpon the table 273. As people is in the Cuppe so is Christs blood in the Cuppe The like he hath artic 8. diuis As he dieth in the Sacrament 1 And art 12. diuis 14. As Christ dyeth in the Sacrament so is his bodie present in the Sacrament Perkins in his Ref. Cathol Contr. 10 ca. 1. We hould and Present as a thing to the name teach that Christs bodie and blood are not present with the bread and wine in respect of place of coexistence but by Sacramentall relation or this manner When a word is vttered the same comes to the eare and at the same instāt the thing signified comes to the mynde and thus by relation the word and the thing spoaken of are both present together Zuinglius in Respons ad Propos Eckij to 2. fol. 576. of this proposition The true and liuelie bodie of Christ and his blood are present in the Sacrament if the Altar Maketh this Not present in the Sacrament censure This proposition is nether pious nor Christian Serm. 1. Bernae fol. 527. Three articles of Christian faith directly fight against the presence of the bodie and blood of Christ in the Supper Not in the Supper Present by cōtemplation In Respons ad Lutherum fol. 363. By contemplation Christ is in the Eucharist 420. As for substance there is nothing present besides bread and wine 456. We willingly graunt and confesse that Christs bodie is in the Supper in the same manner As our bodies are in heauen that our bodies are now in heauen And in epist ad Principes fol. 546. Seing all this presence is nothing without the speculation Present by speculation of faith it belongeth to faith that these things are or be made present And apud Hospin part 2. Histor fol. 102. I By contemplation beleiue that in the Supper of the Eucharist Christs true bodie is present by contemplation of faith that is that they who giue thāks to the Lord for the guifts giuen vs in his Sonne do acknowledge him to haue taken true flesh truely to haue suffered in it truely to haue wiped away our sinnes with his blood and so that all the matter done by Christ is made as it were present by contemplation of faith But that Christs bodie should be really and in substance present we do not onely denie but auouch to be an error Tigurini in Hospin part 2. fol. 161. The sacramentall vnion By signification wholy consisteth in significatiō And in Scusselburg l. 1. Theol. Caluin art 21. The bodie and blood of Christ are by mere imagination By mere imagination in the Sacrament of the Supper And Carolstadius ib. art 20. The bodie of Christ is not in the Supper Christ is not in Not in the Supper the Sacrament nether can be in it Caluin 4. Instit c. 17. § 30. Whereas our Mediatour is euerie where whole he is alwaies present to his seruants and in the Supper affor deth himselfe present in a speciall manner but so as he is whole there not wholy * Totus nō totum because in his flesh he is contained in heauen vntill he come to iudgment In Defens 2. cont Westphal p. 774. I saied that Christs bodie is exhibited Not present in substance effectually in the Supper not naturally according to vertue not according to substance Se more ib. p. 778. 779 In Consens de re Sacrament art 25. It must needs be that Christs bodie be As farre frō vs as heauen from carth as farre distant from vs as heauen is from earth Which Beza often times repeateth as cont Brent vol. 1. pag. 574. De hypostat vnione pag. 638. lib. quaest resp pag. 673. Resp ad Andream pag. 130. Apol. 1. cont Sainctem p. 302. Resp ad Repetit eiusdem c. 10. p. 50. also Daneus cont Kemnit c. 30. and others Beza cont Heshus vol. 1. p. 278. We say not that Christs Not present in the bread bodie is present in the bread Respons ad Acta Torgensia vol. 368. We may easily vnderstand and declare out of the word the sacramentall manner of presence to wit such as the thing signified Present as the abiect is the thought is offered to the vnderstanding to be knowne and approued and by faith to be embraced and applied to the beleiuer And epist 76. What this presence is we clearly vnderstand and perceaue out of the word of God to wit such as the thing thought vpon is present to our thought and the thing beleiued is present to faith And as Grauerus in Absurdis Caluin cap. 3. § 43. saieth This presence he plainely putteth in imagination Present in imagination Zanchius in Hospin l. cit f. 316. Touching the presence of Christs bodie in the Supper I protest that I do not willingly dispute No ward of presence in the Scripture of it because I read no word of it in Scripture The like he hath l. 2. Epist p. 69. and 89. Peter Martyr in Schusselburg l. 3. Theol. Caluin art 8. I remoue the presence of Christs bodie from the Eucharist And l. Presence remoued from the Eucharist cont Gardiner col 815. The presence of Christs bodie in heauen directly feighteth with the presence thereof in the Sacrament col 994. If besides signification he will that there is a reall presence No presence besides signification that we altogether denie More of their like speaches may be seene in my Latin booke c. 10. art 1. But by these it is
to God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 2. 2. q. 164. art 1. The soule of man is immortall beasts soules are mortall Et 1. parte q. 118. art 2. It is heresie to say that a reasonable soule is transfused with the seed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Assert art 27. to 2. f. 107. I giue leaue that the Pope make articles of faith to his followers Such as are That bread and wine are transsubstantiated in the Sacrament That the soule is the substantiall forme of mans bodie That he is Emperour of the world and king of heauē and an earthlie God That the soule is immortall and all those infinit monsters in the Romish The soule is mortall dūghill of Decrees that such as his faith is such be his Ghospell such his faithfull such his Church and like lippes like lettuce and the pot may haue a fit couer And in the Margent Articles made of the Pope Zuinglius l. de Religione c. de Clauibus to 2. f. 187. But they do not so agree amongst themselues where the keyes were giuen that it is maruaile why the Pope of Rome seing he alone can iudge the Scripture as these men dreame hath not pronoūced by some lawe where they were giuen lest there should be so great dissension in a matter of so great moment or rather of profit For The soule dieth with the bodie he might easily for he hath decreed that soules do not die when the bodie dieth Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 543. There wāt not some among Infants perish like beasts Christiās who thinke that ether all Infants or some are quite extinguished by death as beasts are And he himselfe insinuateth that mans soule is not a pure spirit as appeareth by words cited in an other place Caluin in Explic. perfidiae Gentilis p. 677. Some Protestants did say that there is no shorter way to abolish the protection of Saintes superstitious praier for the dead the inuention of Purgatorie and such like then if we would beleiue death to be the destruction of the soule Soules perish Brentius homilia 35. in c. 20. Lucae apud Reginaldum l. 4. Caluinoturcismi cap. 5. Albeit there be no publike profession among vs that the soule perisheth with the bodie and that there is no resurrection of the dead yet that most vncleane and most profane life which the greatest parte of men follow clearely sheweth that in their mynd they thinke that there is no life after this life or at least that they doubt of the life to come No life after this Men are begotten euen according to the soule Besides they teach that mans soule is transfused with the seede Bergenses apud Hospin in Concordia discordi f. 104. Write that a mā is naturally begotten of his father and mother both according to bodie and soule Luther disput 2. to 2. fol. 500. Who shall thinke that the soule is by transfusion seemeth not to thinke amisse from the Scripture Et fol. 501. That is nothing which is saied A reasonable soule is infused whilest it is created and created it is infused Et Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 530. Luther thought that the soule was by transfusion Hutterus in Analysi Confess Augustanae art 2. p. 157. We Our Soules are not created but transfused resolue that that opinion seemeth more probable to vs which thinketh that soules are not infused of God but are propagated from parents to children by transfusion Peucerus apud Schlusselburg l. 2. Theol. Caluin art 6. I conclude that soules rise by transfusion Schlusselburg to 2. Catal. Haeret. p. 195. It appeareth sufficiently in the writings of Luther and Melancthon that they incline to this opinion which saieth that soules are by transfusion and they shew great arguments out of the Scripture Reineccius to 3. Armaturae cap. 6. We gather that soules are together with the bodies propagated from the parents into the children and not made of the seed as out of matter but of the soule of the parents as one candle is lightned of an other and that as the bodie so the soule is in the seed not actually but in power which being dead is raised vp by Gods gouernment But to teach that mans soules is by transfusion is in effect The Soule being dead it raised and deed to say it is mortall as the Protestants themselues confesse Pareus l. 4. de Amiss Grat. c. 11. Whether we say that soules are sowed with the bodies or immediatly transfused out of other soules as one light is kindled of an other we cannot defend the immortalitie of the soule any more Beza in Rom. 5. v. 12. Which opinion can no way be mantained but that the substance of mans soule must be diuisible and consequently corruptible Moreouer they teach that mans soule after his death sleepeth and feeleth nothing Luther in 2. Ionae to 4. f. 417. Scripture teacheth that the dead sleepe I thinke that they are so drowned with a meruailous The Soules sleepe and feele nothing and vnspeakable sleepe as they feele or see lesse then they that otherwise sleepe and when they shal be raised they shall not know where they haue beene or how they were sodainlie borne a new Ib. in c. 9. Eccles f. 36. Salomon seemeth to thinke that the dead sleepe so as they know nothing at all He described the dead like to sensles carcases Et f. 37. An other place that the dead feele nothing Salomon thought that the dead did wholy sleepe and feele nothing at all In cap. 25. Gen. to 6 f. 722. There is a great difference betwene the Saintes sleeping and Christ raigning they sleepe and know not what is done Caluin in Psychopanychia p. 388. I know manie good men into whose mynd some thing was instilled of this sleepe of the soules ether through to much readinesse to beleiue or through ignorance of Scriptures whereby they were not sufficiently instructed at the time for to resist whome I would not offend if I may Sleidan l. 9. Histor Luther teacheth out of Scripture that the soules of the dead do rest and expect the latter day of iudgment and he addeth that out of this Luther ouerthrew purgatorie But to teach that the soules haue no feeling is as much as to say that they are perished according to the verdict of the Protestants themselues For thus Beza epistola 82. To depriue the soule of motion and sense is alone as to kill the soule The same saieth Caluin lib. cit p. 391. Daneus Contr. 2. p. 160. Zuinglius in Exposit fidei tom 2. fol. 559. and in elencho fol. 37. Castalio also apud Bezam de puniendis Haereticis whose learning and honestie D. Humfrey ad Ration 1. Campiani saieth he well knew writeth thus Men dispute of the Trinitie of Predestination of free will of God of Angels of the state of soules after this life and of other such matters which nether are so necessarie to obtaine saluation by faith because without knowledge of
Iustification writeth thus Sanctification by the blood of the couenāt Heb. 10. v. 29. is not the inward cleansing of the heart from sinne To receaue the holie Ghost Act. 19. v. 2. With them is not to receaue grace but some speciall guifts Caluin ibid. Here is not spoaken of the spirit of regeneration but of speciall guifts In like sorte by The holie Ghost ib. Nether haue we heard that there is a holie Ghost is not meant the holie Ghost For thus Caluin ib. How could it be that Iews had not heard of the holie Ghost Et Beza ibid. It were most absurd to thinke that they knew not that there was anie holie Ghost To be sanctified Hebr. 10. v. 29. is not to be truely sanctified For thus Contraremonstrantes in Collat. Hagae p. 391. Nether yet can it be concluded thereof that they were truely faithfull and indeed sanctified To fall from grace Gal. 5. ver 5. With them is not to fall from grace but to fall from the hope of obtaining it Contrare monstrantes loc cit p. 388. These are saied to fall from the grace of iustification not that euer they were partakers thereof but because they are excluded from al hope of obtaining it so long as they wil be iustified by the law Touching baptisme To be baptized Act. 19. v. 3. In whome Touching Baptisme then were you baptized with them is not to haue receaued baptisme but other guifts Beza ib. We must needs graunt that here is not treated of baptisme but of guifts wherewith God was wonte specially to adorne those whome he made rulers of Churches Gual●erus ib. hom 125. These words must not be expoūded of the baptisme of water but of the baptisme of fire Likewise Baptisme 1. Pet. 3. with them signifieth not baptisme but Christ Zuinglius resp ad Huber tom 2. It is certainely euident that Peter in that place by Baptisme vnderstandeth no other thing but Christ. Water also Ioan. 3. v. 5. Vnlesse one be borne agayne of water signifieth not water but the holie Ghost Caluin ibid. I can no way be persuaded to beleiue that Christ speaketh of baptisme And in Refutat Serueti This pertaineth nothing to baptisme but the name of water is metaphorically attributed to the holie Ghost Zuinglius vpon this place By water here he meaneth not that element but the word of God grace of God heauenlie water that is the illustration of the no●●e Ghost And in the same manner other Protestants commonlie Touching the Eucharist Is in the words of consecratiō Touching the Eucharist with them is not Is but Signifieth nor Bodie giuen for vs Blood shed for vs is the true bodie and blood of Christ but onely figures of them as appeareth by what hath beene saied lib. 1. cap. 11. art 1. To eate the flesh and drinke the blood of Christ so often repeated Ioan. 6. is not to eate or drinke but onely to beleiue P. Martyr cont Gardiner part 1. col col 866. We still say that to eate to wit the flesh of Christ is nothing els then to apprehend it by faith as giuen for vs as price of our redemption Which also he hath col 863. And Luther Postil in Dom. post Natiuit To eate and drinke his flesh and To eate 1. not to eate but to beleiue blood is no other thing then to beleiue that Christ truely tooke these for our sake and repaied them agayne at death The like hath Zuinglius in Ioan. 6. and in Histor passionis and l. de Relig. c. de Euchar. Bullinger Dec. 5. serm 9. Vrsinus in Catechism q. 76. Flesh in those words of Christ Ioan. 6. My Flesh. 1. not flesh but diuinitie flesh is truely meate with them is not flesh but the Godhead Zuinglius in Exegesi to 2. fol. 333. He saieth his flesh is truely meate meaning surely not his flesh but his better nature which had taken flesh The Bodie of our Lord in those words 1. Cor. 10. The bread which we breake is it not the participation of the bodie of our Lord with these men is not the bodie of Christ 1. Christians Christ but Christians Zuinglius lib. cit Thou mights haue seene at the first how that Communion and Bodie are not taken Bodie of Christ 1. men for distribution of Christs bodie but for men themselues Finally Luther was so bould as to set downe a Canon Luthers Canō of expounding Words by cōtraries of expounding the words of holie Scripture by cōtraries For thus he writeth in Ps 5. to 3. fol. 171. Let this be a Canon for thee Where the Scripture commandeth a good worke to be done do thou so vnderstand it that it forbiddeth thee doe good workes seing thou canst not but that thou maiest sanctifie the Lord be dead and buried and suffer God to worke in thee Which Canon Protestants do well follow as appeareth by what hath beene related in this chapter and before in the sixt and seuenth chapter where we shewed that in the weightieste matters they expounded the words of holie Scripture ironically and according to others mēs mynde These and innumerable the like doe Protestants of which we might easily gather not onely a chapter but a booke full But out of these which we haue rehearsed it clearely appeareth First how great hereticall libertie as Tertullian speaketh is which turneth the words of holie Scripture this way and that way in to this forme and that and tosseth them vp and downe like tenis balls Secondly how easie it may be for euerie idiote with this libertie for to defend what heresie soeuer though neuer so contrarie to Scripture For who cannot expound the words of Scripture by diuerse by disparate and contrarie things Thirdly how impossible it is if this libertie be admitted to refute by Scripture any heresie at all or to proue anie thing by anie words whatsoeuer ether of God or man Fourthly how that Protestants by this kinde of dealing do more dishonor God and the holie Scripture then if they should quite reiect it For if they should reiect the Scripture they should onely reiect Gods word and trueth But by this manner of dealing they doe not onely reiect Gods trueth and meaning but also in steede thereof foist in the contrarie vntrueth and so as S. Hierome speaketh In Galat. ● of the word of God they make the word of the Diuel Fiftly it appeareth that these expositions of Protestants are like to that which Luther merly deuised for to shew the Sacramentaries how they expounded the words of consecration in Defens verb. cenae to 7. fol. 384. where he A fit exāple of Protest expositions writeth thus Surely they doe a great and weightie matter But no otherwise then if I should denie that God made heauen and earth whē one should obiect that of Moises In the beginning God created heauen and earth I should expound Moises words in this sorte God that is a Cuccou Made that is deuoured Heauen and earth
c. 3. Nether is eternall life called a reward properly Piscator in Thes l. 2. p. 103. Faith properly speaking doth not purge sinnes Et p. 112. We must not properly vnderstand that Christ purged the Church by the lauer of water in the word but metonymically Imperpely In like sorte for improperly Caluin in Ioan 4. ver 39. The word Beleiue improperly signifieth that they were stirred vp by the speach of the woman to acknowledge Christ a Prophet In c. 6. v. 29. It is euident enough that Christ spoake improperly when he calleth faith a worke In cap. 12. ver 42. He seemeth to speake improperly whilest he seperateth faith from confession In Math. 6. v. 16. That he promiseth reward from God vnto fasting is an improper speach In illud Math. 12. v. 33. Make a good tree It is an improper speach In illud c. 13. v. 19. He scrapeth away that which was sowed in the heart That Christ saieth the word was sowed in their hearts is an improper speach In c. 26. v. 26. The word of Bodie is improperly trāsferred to bread of which it is a signe In illud Rom. 11. v. 22. If he remaine in goodnesse This should be improperly spoaken peculiarly of anie good man that God had mercie on him when he chose him if so he remaine in mercie † Goodnesse In illud Ephes 2. vers 20. Built vpon the foundation of the Apostles Properly Christ is the onely foundation Beza in Colloq Montisb pag. 120. saieth Baptisme was heth away sinnes is an improper speach Aretius in locis part 1. f. 84. There is an other improper forgiuenesse of sinnes as is that of the Ministers Bullinger Dec. 3. Serm. 9. The Apostles improperly attribute iustice to good workes but truely and properly to faith and most properly to Christ himselfe Piscator in Thes l. 2. p. 119. It is improperly saied that faith is imputed to iustice These and manie other things they say are spoaken improperly or not properly when the proprietie of the word maketh against them Something 's they say are to be vnderstood tropically Tropically or Figuratiuely or figuratiuely P. Martyr cont Gardiner col 623. We say That speach This is my bodie is not proper but metopharicall and tropicall And in Hospin part 2. Histor fol. 239. The words This is c. cannot be taken simply and without a figure They are a tropicall manner of speaking And Hospin himselfe ib. fol. 26. saieth Zuinglius expounded Christ his words This is c. by a metonymie interpreting Is for signifieth Fol. 35. OEcolampadius sheweth that the figure is in the word Bodie And fol. 161. Those of Strasburg and Zurich agree that the words are tropicall Caluin de Rat. Concordiae The word Bodie is figuratiuely giuen to bread Beza in Colloq Mōt pag. 302. Our men denie not this proposition Man is God but tell how it is to be expounded we say it is a tropicall speach Daneus Cont. de Euchar. c. 10. Bread it selfe is tropically called the bodie of Christ Vorstius in Antibel p. 394. It appeareth that those words of Christ must needs be meant by a figure Tilenus in Syntagm c. 64. The Apostle indeed saieth Christians haue an altar but not a materiall and visible but figuratiuely Some things they will haue be expounded Symbolically Symbolically Caluin in Admonition vltim ad Westphal Bread is symbolically called Bodie Et cont Heshus p. 844. Touching bread the speach is metonymicall that it may truely be symbolically called the true bodie of Christ Zuinglius in Subsid to 2. f. 245. The disciples vnderstood Christs speach rightly but symbolically Other things they vnderstand aequiuocally Pareus l. Aequiuecally 4. de Iustif cap. 4. I confesse that in Scripture the Ghospell is equiuocally called the law of faith the law of Christ the law of libertie In which sense we graunt that Christ is called a lawgiuer a law maker that is a Teacher Other things they expound Analogically Perkins in Cathol Refor Contr. 11. c. 2. Bread is the bodie of Christ sacramentally by analogie and no otherwise Some things they will haue to be taken Synecdochically Synechdochically Luther in Hospin l. cit fol. 76. There is a synechdoche in the words of consecration as a sword with a scabbard Westphalus in Schlusselb to 7. Catal. p. 176. Luther acknowledgeth a synechdochicall speach in the words of Christ This is c. and the same saieth Adamus Francisci in Margarita loco 16. Bucer l. de Ministerio pag. 609. It is euident that those Take Eate are synechdochicall and are referred to twoe things Peter Martyr contra Gardiner col 933. I alwaies pretēded that I did acknowledge a metonymie or synechdoche in those words of the Supper And he addeth It cannot be denied but there is a manifest alleosis And col 965. I confesse that Bucer liked better a synecdoche Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 42. Nothing hindreth by Soule synechdochically to vnderstand the bodie it selfe and that also dead Wigand in Schlusseb to 7. Catal. p. 754. Worke your saluation with feare and trembling is a synecdoche that is Doe true pennance Lobechius disput 22. The Scripture saieth that faith iustifieth vs and faith is imputed to iustice by metalepsis and synechdoche taking faith for the obiect of faith that is for Christ or the iustice of Christ Scarpius also de Iustif Cont. 1. saieth that this speach Faith iustifieth is synecdochicall Sometimes that words which make against them are Catachrestically taken Catechrestically or abusiuely Zuinglius l. de Relig. cap. de oration Christ abusiuely calleth faith a worke Agayne Testament is taken here abusiuely for the signe or symboll of the testament In Elencho fol. 31. Paul speaketh of twoe testaments but the one he calleth catachrestically a testament In Respons ad Billican O Ecolampadius saith that here in words of the Supper is a catachresis or metonymie In Math. cap. 9. That the Scripture calleth faith that which is dead is done by abuse of the word as we say the faith of Iews the faith of Turkes And in Hospin lib. 2. Histor fol. 35. When I say that by Catachresis This bread signifieth my bodie and OEcolampadius saieth metonymically This bread is a figure of my bodie what difference I pray you is there in the summe of the sense Illyricus in Mathew 5. vers 12. Christ abusiuely calleth future goods a reward Caluin 3. Institut cap. 2. § 9. The testimonie of faith is attributed to such but by catachresis Zanchius in Supplication tom 7. pagin 59. That speach To obey their concupiscences when it is attributed to the elect is to be vnderstood catachrestically Pareus l. 1. de Iustif c. 15. A dead faith is not a true faith though abusiuely it be called faith Author Resp ad thes Valent. Our men do say truely and orderly that the Ghospell cannot be called a law but catachrestically Otherwhile they will haue the words of Scripture which are contrarie to them to