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plus_fw-la aequo_fw-la sese_fw-la voluerunt_fw-la tunâ—_n judaeis_n cum_fw-la et_fw-la buicis_fw-la accommodare_fw-la vndê_fw-la multa_fw-la caremonia_n in_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la irrepferunt_fw-la at_o experientia_fw-la declaravit_fw-la deum_fw-la non_fw-la be_v nedixisse_fw-la hiâ—c_fw-la consolio_fw-la etc_n adverb_n mon._n burdâ—g_n â—rt_n 1â—_n 13._o in_o these_o word_n 1._o all_o humane_a addition_n to_o god_n institution_n be_v absolute_o conden_v 2._o those_o that_o undertake_v to_o add_v such_o cerem_fw-la be_v censure_v of_o intolerable_a arrogancy_n as_o presume_v to_o be_v wise_a than_o christ._n 3_o light_n and_o white_a garment_n be_v by_o name_n condemn_v which_o only_o offend_v in_o their_o mystical_a signification_n upon_o man_n will_n 4._o chrism_n or_o oil_n in_o baptism_n be_v esteem_v a_o sacrament_n though_o the_o papist_n deny_v it_o confer_v grace_n as_o the_o sacrament_n 5._o the_o first_o bringer_n in_o of_o ceremony_n only_a significant_a into_o the_o church_n be_v tax_v for_o depart_v from_o the_o simplicity_n of_o god_n word_n as_o therein_o find_v rather_o the_o curse_n than_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n upon_o their_o presumption_n 5._o daneus_n be_v the_o next_o who_o make_v it_o blasphemy_n to_o think_v and_o teach_v that_o any_o outward_a thing_n of_o humane_a institution_n may_v be_v make_v a_o sign_n in_o the_o church_n of_o spiritual_a
prove_v this_o altar_n to_o be_v appoint_v unto_o god_n service_n because_o it_o be_v a_o pattern_n of_o the_o lord_n altar_n as_o our_o cross_n be_v a_o resemblance_n of_o christ_n cross_n be_v 1._o reprove_v by_o the_o reply_o because_o the_o cross_n whereon_o christ_n do_v suffer_v be_v no_o more_o holy_a than_o judas_n and_o so_o not_o to_o be_v compare_v unto_o the_o lord_n altar_n to_o this_o the_o rejoynder_n in_o many_o word_n make_v show_v of_o say_v something_o but_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n if_o he_o say_v any_o thing_n i_o for_o my_o part_n can_v not_o discern_v what_o it_o be_v 5._o the_o replier_n also_o in_o the_o second_o place_n allege_v that_o every_o resemblance_n of_o a_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o therefore_o holy_a because_o then_o every_o alehouse_n picture_n take_v from_o holy_a thing_n mention_v in_o scripture_n shall_v be_v holy_a and_o a_o model_n of_o the_o temple_n carry_v by_o a_o tyrian_a workman_n into_o his_o country_n for_o news_n shall_v 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signify_v a_o spiritual_a duty_n be_v a_o direct_a &_o immediate_a help_n to_o devotion_n to_o what_o other_o help_n this_o help_n be_v collateral_a i_o will_v fain_o know_v a_o further_a reason_n of_o this_o conclusion_n be_v add_v viz_o then_o most_o of_o the_o other_o tribe_n shall_v have_v have_v use_n of_o it_o and_o also_o reason_n to_o have_v set_v up_o altar_n of_o devotion_n at_o every_o three-way-leet_n as_o cross_n stand_v the_o rejoynder_n be_v 1._o that_o the_o other_o tribe_n no_o doubt_n have_v use_v of_o it_o as_o of_o a_o witness_n that_o the_o lord_n be_v god_n now_o let_v any_o man_n consider_v whether_o they_o which_o ordinary_o resort_v to_o the_o tabernacle_n and_o altar_n of_o god_n have_v need_n of_o a_o humane_a altar_n far_o remoove_v from_o their_o sight_n to_o put_v they_o in_o mind_n that_o the_o lord_n be_v god_n and_o whether_o the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a without_o the_o consent_n or_o knowledge_n of_o the_o chief_a priest_n the_o chief_a 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regard_n of_o posterity_n the_o immediate_a end_n of_o this_o altar_n be_v to_o testify_v that_o those_o tribe_n beyond_o jordan_n belong_v to_o the_o same_o people_n and_o so_o have_v right_a to_o the_o same_o worship_n with_o those_o of_o this_o side_n jordan_n which_o be_v nothing_o to_o a_o ceremony_n of_o state_n and_o immediate_a use_n in_o the_o special_a solemn_a worship_n of_o god_n the_o rejoynder_n ask_v if_o this_o be_v not_o a_o holy_a religious_a end_n i_o answer_v it_o be_v so_o holy_a and_o religious_a as_o every_o landmark_a of_o a_o parson_n glebe-land_n or_o every_o sign_n of_o a_o parish-bound_a be_v holy_a and_o religious_a but_o not_o so_o as_o mystical_a ceremony_n b._n andrew_n against_o perone_n p._n 18_o give_v some_o light_n to_o this_o by_o the_o ancient_a use_n of_o light_n and_o incense_v there_o be_v light_n say_v he_o there_o be_v incense_v use_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o their_o service_n not_o for_o any_o mystical_a meaning_n but_o as_o it_o be_v think_v for_o this_o cause_n that_o where_o the_o christian_n in_o time_n of_o persecution_n have_v their_o meeting_n most_o common_o in_o place_n dark_a and_o so_o need_v light_n and_o dampish_a and_o so_o need_v good_a savour_n they_o provide_v light_n against_o one_o and_o incense_v against_o the_o other_o after_o the_o church_n retain_v these_o thing_n to_o show_v themselves_o the_o successor_n of_o those_o ancient_a christian_n etc._n etc._n the_o after-age_n devize_v meaning_n and_o signification_n of_o their_o own_o which_o from_o the_o beginning_n be_v not_o so_o if_o this_o be_v so_o as_o it_o be_v think_v then_o there_o may_v be_v sign_n of_o succession_n unto_o religious_a forefather_n without_o any_o mystical_a meaning_n which_o be_v all_o that_o by_o we_o be_v plead_v about_o this_o altar_n of_o jordan_n and_o for_o further_a manifest_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o this_o altar_n let_v it_o be_v well_o consider_v what_o josephus_n one_o of_o the_o learnede_a and_o most_o ancient_a jew_n now_o exstant_fw-la say_v antiq._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 4._o they_o place_v a_o altar_n on_o the_o bank_n of_o the_o river_n as_o a_o memorable_a sign_n of_o the_o nearness_n and_o affinity_n of_o they_o that_o dwell_v beyond_o jordan_n viz._n with_o they_o within_o canaan_n again_o it_o be_v not_o place_v for_o worship_n but_o symbolical_o and_o as_o a_o memorandum_n of_o their_o relation_n to_o you_o 8._o the_o rejoynder_n as_o have_v sufficient_o confute_v all_o other_o answer_n bring_v in_o one_o make_v to_o himself_o in_o conference_n though_o he_o have_v not_o find_v it_o in_o print_n as_o a_o grand_a absurdity_n namely_o that_o the_o gileadite_n do_v ill_a in_o erect_v this_o altar_n and_o the_o rest_n also_o in_o allow_v of_o it_o now_o as_o for_o allowance_n by_o the_o high_a priest_n prince_n and_o all_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o i_o find_v it_o not_o evident_a in_o the_o text._n about_o the_o other_o i_o find_v this_o 1._o that_o d._n fulke_o no_o absurd_a divine_a against_o sander_n of_o image_n pag._n 649._o write_v thus_o in_o print_n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a josh._n 22._o make_v not_o a_o image_n but_o a_o altar_n for_o a_o memorial_n and_o yet_o their_o fact_n be_v not_o commendable_a though_o it_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n excusable_a 2._o i_o find_v also_o that_o calvin_n before_o he_o upon_o josh._n 22._o say_v thus_o duae_fw-la tribus_fw-la â—um_fw-la dimidia_fw-la non_fw-la leviter_fw-la peccarunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a do_v very_o ill_a which_o be_v the_o great_a absurdity_n that_o the_o rejoynder_n have_v hear_v in_o conference_n but_o not_o see_v in_o print_n before_o now_o sect_n 17.18.19.20.21_o
which_o be_v against_o popish_a recusancie_n of_o our_o communion-booke_n and_o not_o against_o refusal_n of_o some_o few_o ceremony_n contain_v therein_o i_o speak_v now_o of_o the_o statute_n law_n not_o of_o lawless_a canon_n or_o what_o if_o we_o shall_v stand_v upon_o that_o interpretation_n which_o fetch_v the_o obligation_n from_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o matter_n impose_v which_o in_o our_o ceremony_n be_v very_o little_a some_o of_o these_o i_o be_o â—ure_a the_o bishop_n must_v fly_v if_o they_o will_v defend_v their_o disuse_n of_o the_o crosier_n slaffe_n which_o they_o be_v bind_v by_o our_o law_n as_o well_o to_o use_v as_o the_o minister_n be_v surpluss_n but_o all_o this_o be_v needless_a because_o there_o can_v be_v no_o contempt_n in_o a_o conscionable_a forbearance_n of_o unlawful_a imposition_n such_o as_o the_o ceremony_n be_v sufficient_o prove_v to_o be_v sect_n xii_o here_o certain_a divine_n be_v bring_v in_o witness_v 1._o that_o superstition_n do_v deprive_v man_n of_o christian_a liberty_n which_o we_o deny_v not_o but_o take_v their_o testimony_n as_o make_v against_o our_o ceremony_n because_o as_o i_o have_v former_o show_v some_o of_o these_o superstitious_a opinion_n be_v inseparable_a from_o the_o impose_v and_o use_v of_o they_o 2._o that_o christian_a liberty_n do_v not_o consist_v in_o the_o use_n or_o disuse_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a which_o we_o also_o willing_o grant_v but_o i_o will_v have_v the_o defendant_n remember_v that_o all_o freedom_n be_v not_o in_o the_o mind_n &_o conscience_n for_o where_o the_o mind_n be_v free_a the_o body_n may_v be_v bind_v else_o christian_n shall_v not_o taste_v so_o much_o of_o this_o world_n misery_n as_o they_o do_v now_o christ_n have_v leave_v unto_o we_o not_o only_o a_o inward_a liberty_n of_o mind_n and_o conscience_n but_o also_o a_o outward_a freedom_n of_o our_o body_n and_o outward_a man_n from_o such_o bodily_a rite_n in_o his_o worship_n as_o have_v not_o his_o stamp_n upon_o they_o and_o his_o spirit_n and_o blessing_n promise_v unto_o they_o of_o this_o the_o defendant_n say_v nothing_o at_o all_o sect._n xiii_o xiiii_o concern_v the_o profession_n of_o our_o church_n so_o often_o bring_v in_o enough_o have_v be_v say_v before_o now_o it_o suffice_v to_o answer_v that_o no_o profession_n whatsoever_o can_v make_v human_a significant_a ceremony_n in_o god_n worship_n agree_v with_o christian_a liberty_n as_o for_o superstition_n which_o the_o defendant_n do_v now_o the_o second_o time_n most_o ridiculous_o object_v i_o have_v answer_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o confutation_n now_o only_o i_o note_v 1._o how_o loose_o he_o describe_v that_o superstition_n which_o he_o call_v affirmative_a as_o if_o no_o man_n can_v use_v any_o thing_n superstitious_o except_o he_o do_v hold_v that_o without_o it_o the_o faith_n of_o christianity_n or_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n can_v not_o possible_o consist_v never_o be_v there_o such_o a_o description_n 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