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A91187 A fresh discovery of some prodigious new wandring-blasing-stars, & firebrands, stiling themselves nevv-lights, firing our church and state into new combustions. Divided into ten sections, comprising severall most libellous, scandalous, seditious, insolent, uncharitable, (and some blasphemous) passages; published in late unlicensed printed pamphlets, against the ecclesiasticall jurisdiction and power of parliaments, councels, synods, Christian kings and magistrates, in generall; the ordinances and proceedings of this present Parliament, in speciall: the national covenant, assembly, directory, our brethren of Scotland, Presbyterian government; the Church of England, with her ministers, worship; the opposers of independent novelties; ... Whereunto some letters and papers lately sent from the Sommer-Islands, are subjoyned, relating the schismaticall, illegal, tyrannical proceedings of some Independents there, in gathering their new-churches, to the great distraction and prejudice of that plantation. / Published for the common good by William Prynne of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P3963; Thomason E261_5; ESTC R212456 96,461 90

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I call the God of heaven to witnesse would it quench their thirst and be a ransome for our posterity I would freely offer it to the Common good● and as for the P●●testant Religion hath it not beene lock'd up in the breasts of the Assembly hath not your faith beene pin'd upon their sleeve your estates spent and your blood shed for the result of their mindes right or wrong and so have fough● for you know not what But it may be you 'l say you have engaged for the suppression of Prelacy High-Commission c. you have indeed beat the bush but the Presbyters have caught th●● Hare instead of one High-commission in the whole kingdome you shall have one in every Parish under the name of a Parochiall Sessions besides the generall High-commission call'd the Common Councell of Presbyters Now have you not to shu● the smoke skippt into the fire is the matter any thing amended sure you have got a worthy Reformation But it may be you have a better esteem of these new Courts then of the old High-commission Let me aske you do you thinke that they 'l be better then their patterne c. Thus you may see what you are to rely upon if in conscience you cannot submit to any thing they command you know your wages you must be banished and doe not our Presbyters not onely labour for the banishment but for the lives of the Contrary minded to them And is not this thinke you as evill measure as ever was measured out of the High-commission Wherfore I beseech you Friends consider what you do consider the frait of your bodies into what slavery you are fit to inthrall them I know you would be loath your Children after you should be deprived of trading or living in the Kingdome though they should differ a litle in opinion from others I beseech you therfore save your selves from this wicked Generation who have spent your estates your blood and all and you are now worse then ever you were hitherto all hath beene in their disposing and you are betrayd and daiely delivered as a prey to the Enemy The Lord Deliver us Amen Whether this be not another Sheba a Trumpeter to blow up popular sedition and Rebellion against the Parliament Synod and their proceedings deserving Sheba's punishment and whether it be not more then time for the Honorable Court of Parliament to proceed severely against such Scismaticall Libellous and Seditious Mutiniers as these forementioned let all wise men judge If our foolish pitty and indulgence towards them according to the proverbe destroy our Citty our Church our Religion our Parliament our Realmes let those superior Powers answer it who have authority to prevent it I can with a good conscience professe and say Liberavi animam meam what ever censures reproaches Scandals Libels I suffer for my good intentions from this Libellous Generation of unreasonable men who have litle faith and lesse Charity Certain Queres propounded to Independent Ministers and their Members convincing them in many things to be meer Papists and swervers from the Word of God 1. WHether Independent Ministers prescribing and Members submitting to a New-forme of Church-Government not yet fully knowne to or agreed on among themselves nor reduced unto certainty by any of their Sect but fluctuating and swimming in their Ministers giddy braines with a reserve of altering adding or diminishing at their pleasure be not a meere Popish blind obedience a receiving of a Church-Government with an implicit Popish faith to believe as their Minister or Church believes without knowing certainly and determinately what they do dogmatically believe and a plaine worshipping of they know not what their Independent way and Government being yet not fully delineated nor 〈◊〉 in writing by any of their party though frequently pressed to it 2. Whether Independent Ministers Members Churches denying the lawfull legislative directive coercive Authority Jurisdiction of Parliaments Councels Synods Kings and Temporall Magistrates in all Ecclesiasticall affaires or matters of Religion appropriating this power wholy to themselves and their Independent conventicles Their pleading of an exemption of themselues and Members from all secular Powers in Church matters as being immediately subject herein to none but Christ Their usurping Authority to erect and gather New Independent Churches not onely without but against the command of Parliaments and Princes Their dayly practise of admitting rejecting Church-members excluding godly Christians not onely from their Churches but even from the Sacraments and their children from baptisme in case they submit not to their New-fangled way Their denying the liberty and benefit of Appeales from themselves to any superior Tribunall be it a Classis Synod or Parliament by way of ●urisdiction but onely of advice Their proclaimeing their owne Independent Churches to be the onely true Churches of Christ and allothers f●lse erronious Antichristian from which all must sever under paine of damnation Their imposing New O●thes and Covenants under pain of exclusion from church-Church-communion on all their new members and binding them wholy to their wayes Edicts Their stilling themselves supreame heads of the Church next under Christ and exalting themselves above all that is called God or worshipped above all other Ministers or Christians whatsoever as the ONLY Lights of the world and tying the Scriptures to their owne new-fangled expositions be not an erecting of a meere arbitrary tyrannicall Pap●ll Antichristian Jurisdiction in every Independent congregation both over the soules consciences bodies of Christians and a setting up of as many Petty Popes as there are Independent Ministers or congregations 3. Whether Independents admitting Women not onely to vote as members but sometimes to preach expound and speake publikely as Predicants in their Convent●cles be not directly contrary to the Apostles Doctrine and practise 1 Cor. 14. 34. 35. 1. Tim. 2. 11. 12. and a meer politick invention to engage that Sex to their par●y Whether their pretended Liberty of conscience for every man to bleeve professe and practise what Religion he pleaseth be it Paganisme Judaisme Turcisme Popery without co●rtion or punishment by the magistrate be not a like wicked Policy contradictory to Scripture and Religion which proclaimes a licen●iousnesse to practise any sinne with impunity and warrants Popes Papists Iesuits to murther Protestant Princes blow up Parliaments Massacre Heretiques absolve subjects from their allegiance Equivocate worship Images Saints Reliques and their Breaden-god and commit any wickednesse for the advancement of the Catholique cause because their Religion and Consciences hold them lawful And how then can we justly punish any Traytor Rebell Murder Adulterer Swearer Drunkard Polyganist Theef in case he be really perswaded in his conscience what he doth is lawfull 4. Whether the Independent Ministers in the Assembly will undertake to bind either themselves or all others of their party for the future without any reserve of altering or changing their opinions and practise to that Independent way of Church Government which Mr. Thomas