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A62864 Anti-pædobaptism, or, The third part being a full review of the dispute concerning infant baptism : in which the arguments for infant baptism from the covenant and initial seal, infants visible church membership, antiquity of infant baptism are refelled [sic] : and the writings of Mr. Stephen Marshal, Mr. Richard Baxter ... and others are examined, and many points about the covenants, and seals and other truths of weight are handled / by John Tombes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1657 (1657) Wing T1800; ESTC R28882 1,260,695 1,095

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and_o preacher_n usual_o apply_v it_o to_o silence_v the_o objection_n against_o absolute_a election_n and_o reprobation_n concern_v their_o everlasting_a state_n as_o if_o it_o import_v unmercifulness_n and_o injustice_n incompetent_a to_o god_n and_o it_o seem_v so_o like_o the_o passage_n rom._n 9.19_o 20_o 21_o 22_o 23_o 24._o that_o i_o think_v if_o mr._n bl._n do_v compare_v they_o he_o shall_v judge_v both_o place_n mean_v of_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o which_o i●_n a_o irrefragable_a argument_n it_o be_v clear_a rom._n 11.33_o have_v reference_n to_o what_o he_o say_v before_o v_o 11_o 12._o which_o be_v manifest_o mean_v of_o their_o estate_n of_o salvation_n and_o reprobation_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v so_o mean_v v._n 33._o what_o mr._n bl._n add_v concern_v my_o speech_n about_o mr._n g._n and_o the_o assembly_n be_v through_o mistake_n as_o if_o i_o have_v censure_v mr._n g._n as_o like_a plautus_n his_o mile_n gloriosus_fw-la in_o his_o disposition_n whereas_o i_o censure_v he_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o those_o word_n there_o use_v which_o be_v right_o however_o in_o other_o thing_n he_o be_v without_o gall_n from_o which_o nevertheless_o that_o in_o his_o write_n against_o i_o he_o be_v not_o altogether_o free_a be_v show_v in_o my_o apology_n sect_n 6._o and_o for_o mr._n bls._n conceit_n that_o where_o one_o degree_n of_o boast_v be_v ascribe_v to_o mr._n g._n one_o hundred_o will_v be_v ascribe_v to_o i_o by_o they_o that_o read_v our_o write_n it_o be_v not_o unlikely_a if_o they_o see_v through_o mr._n bls._n spectacle_n which_o make_v thing_n seem_v black_a that_o be_v white_a and_o make_v small_a hillock_n seem_v hill_n but_o i_o find_v cause_n to_o make_v it_o part_n of_o my_o litany_n from_o the_o unrighteous_a and_o hard_a censure_n of_o mr._n bl._n mr._n b._n and_o other_o of_o my_o antagonist_n good_a lord_n deliver_v i_o what_o i_o say_v of_o the_o assembly_n show_v no_o more_o boldness_n than_o be_v mere_a it_o be_v too_o apparent_a by_o the_o deal_n with_o mr._n coleman_n myself_o and_o other_o that_o the_o stream_n of_o voice_n in_o the_o assembly_n go_v to_o establish_v all_o after_o the_o scottish_a mode_n without_o a_o through_o examination_n of_o what_o be_v allege_v to_o the_o contrary_a except_o what_o be_v object_v be_v back_v by_o a_o very_a considerable_a party_n in_o parliament_n or_o army_n or_o city_n of_o london_n it_o be_v no_o more_o boldness_n in_o i_o to_o assault_v such_o a_o assembly_n than_o it_o be_v in_o a_o particular_a dissent_v brother_n my_o weapon_n i_o assault_v they_o with_o be_v such_o as_o the_o holy_a scripture_n yield_v and_o my_o interpretation_n such_o as_o my_o adversary_n themselves_o give_v and_o my_o argument_n and_o answer_n be_v the_o very_a same_o which_o they_o use_v in_o
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and_o the_o apostle_n determination_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n as_o if_o a_o christian_a may_v not_o alter_v the_o call_n or_o state_n of_o life_n he_o be_v in_o when_o he_o be_v convert_v for_o then_o the_o servant_n may_v not_o become_v free_a nor_o the_o unmarried_a marry_v but_o of_o liberty_n that_o christian_n shall_v not_o think_v themselves_o bind_v by_o their_o christian_a profession_n to_o forsake_v these_o estate_n but_o they_o may_v continue_v in_o they_o and_o so_o be_v the_o resolution_n v._n 12_o 13._o to_o be_v expound_v 2._o this_o exposition_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o occasion_n of_o the_o apostle_n determination_n which_o be_v the_o corinthian_a christian_n doubt_v of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o their_o live_n together_o not_o of_o the_o inconvenience_n or_o convenience_n for_o in_o that_o they_o can_v have_v best_a resolve_v themselves_o and_o so_o the_o apostle_n resolution_n be_v of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o live_v together_o 3._o this_o be_v further_a 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