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A85045 A discourse of the visible church. In a large debate of this famous question, viz. whether the visible church may be considered to be truely a church of Christ without respect to saving grace? Affirm. Whereunto is added a brief discussion of these three questions. viz. 1. What doth constitute visible church-membership. 2. What doth distinguish it, or render it visible. 3. What doth destroy it, or render it null? Together with a large application of the whole, by way of inference to our churches, sacraments, and censures. Also an appendix touching confirmation, occasioned by the Reverend Mr. Hanmore his pious and learned exercitation of confirmation. By Francis Fulwood minister of the gospel at West-Alvington in Devon. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1658 (1658) Wing F2500; Thomason E947_3; ESTC R207619 279,090 362

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upon_o a_o strict_a examination_n shall_v not_o give_v sign_n of_o true_a faith_n and_o inward_a holiness_n which_o may_v convince_v the_o conscience_n touch_v the_o sincerity_n of_o their_o faith_n etc._n etc._n master_n cobbet_n also_o of_o n._n e._n more_o plain_o say_v that_o albeit_o a_o man_n own_o personal_a faith_n unit_v to_o christ_n in_o respect_n 57_o hisbook_n of_o infant_n baptism_n p._n 57_o of_o save_v and_o invisible_a union_n yet_o the_o profession_n of_o faith_n before_o a_o visible_a church_n unit_v to_o christ_n as_o head_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n whether_o the_o party_n be_v sincere_a or_o not_o and_o those_o that_o be_v so_o admit_v be_v unregenerate_a or_o destitute_a of_o save_a grace_n continue_v so_o to_o be_v viz._n member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n notwitstand_v until_o they_o just_o deprive_v 1._o cotton_v holiness_n of_o church-member_n p._n 1._o themselves_o of_o the_o privilege_n of_o that_o fellowship_n as_o mr._n cotton_n affirm_v i_o 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mercy_n and_o grace_n of_o god_n belong_v that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v confine_v to_o the_o elect._n 5._o therefore_o it_o follow_v that_o to_o be_v true_o regenerate_v be_v only_o a_o necessary_a duty_n of_o church-member_n but_o 1._o though_o we_o acknowledge_v such_o only_a to_o be_v sincere_a christian_n who_o serve_v god_n with_o upright_a heart_n yet_o those_o be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o be_v christian_n who_o make_v so_o much_o as_o a_o general_a profession_n of_o christ_n mr._n ho._n catech._n p._n 75._o holiness_n of_o member_n p._n 1._o not_o a_o condition_n of_o their_o membership_n i_o mean_v visible_a that_o be_v all_o church-member_n ought_v to_o be_v inward_o holy_a but_o yet_o man_n may_v be_v and_o doubtless_o thousand_o be_v true_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o be_v destitute_a of_o such_o holiness_n this_o be_v so_o happy_o and_o full_o express_v by_o mr._n cotton_n that_o i_o shall_v make_v bold_a to_o give_v you_o my_o full_a sense_n of_o it_o 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that_o be_v its_o member_n must_v needs_o allow_v the_o distinction_n viz._n that_o save_a grace_n be_v the_o duty_n because_o themselves_o require_v the_o profession_n of_o it_o but_o not_o the_o necessary_a condition_n of_o visible_a membership_n see_v they_o also_o acknowledge_v that_o person_n may_v be_v member_n thereof_o without_o it_o 6._o further_o i_o affirm_v that_o no_o person_n be_v once_o 89_o holiness_n of_o the_o church_n of_o n._n e._n p._n 89_o admit_v be_v to_o be_v eject_v or_o cast_v out_o for_o any_o thing_n but_o scandal_n for_o we_o say_v master_n cotton_n proceed_v not_o to_o censure_v but_o in_o case_n of_o know_a offence_n and_o such_o offence_n as_o can_v be_v heal_v without_o censure_n yea_o scandal_n qua_fw-la tale_n or_o as_o it_o be_v offence_n to_o other_o and_o not_o as_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o unregeneracy_n therefore_o ametius_fw-la say_v proprium_fw-la &_o adequatum_fw-la objectum_fw-la 252_o de_fw-fr consc_fw-fr p._n 252_o huius_fw-la censurae_fw-la est_fw-la scandalum_fw-la viz._n fratris_fw-la from_o matth._n 18._o 15._o si_fw-mi peccaverit_fw-la in_o te_fw-la frater_fw-la it_o be_v the_o sin_n that_o offend_v not_o unregeneracy_n it_o be_v the_o offence_n that_o be_v admonish_v for_o and_o not_o unregeneracy_n satisfaction_n be_v require_v for_o the_o offence_n and_o not_o for_o unregeneracy_n the_o offence_n indulge_v be_v the_o leaven_n that_o will_v spread_v and_o sour_a the_o lump_n of_o the_o church_n and_o last_o it_o be_v the_o offence_n that_o be_v only_o to_o be_v know_v and_o prove_v and_o not_o the_o want_n of_o grace_n or_o unregeneracy_n for_o as_o reverend_a master_n baxter_n it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o such_o exceed_a difficulty_n 341_o disp_n 3._o 340_o 341_o to_o conclude_v another_o to_o be_v certain_o graceless_a that_o it_o be_v not_o one_o of_o the_o multitude_n nay_o it_o be_v but_o few_o of_o the_o common_o scandalous_a gross_a sinner_n that_o we_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v it_o by_o yet_o 1._o we_o must_v censure_v all_o the_o scandalous_a if_o scandal_n be_v the_o adequate_a object_n of_o censure_n 2._o we_o must_v censure_v for_o none_o but_o know_v and_o prove_v scandal_n for_o the_o other_o be_v not_o proper_o or_o legal_o scandal_n know_a offence_n as_o master_n cotton_n before_o 3._o therefore_o we_o be_v not_o to_o censure_v for_o unregeneracy_n which_o we_o can_v prove_v or_o know_v by_o but_o very_o few_o of_o the_o scandalous_a and_o gross_a sinner_n as_o master_n baxter_n note_n for_o how_o unreasonable_a be_v it_o to_o punish_v man_n with_o so_o great_a and_o certain_a a_o penalty_n for_o a_o uncertain_a and_o presume_a crime_n or_o as_o the_o same_o reverend_a man_n have_v it_o be_v so_o heavy_o 35_o disp_a p._n 34_o 35_o punish_v before_o they_o be_v judge_v and_o hear_v i_o shall_v put_v a_o end_n to_o this_o in_o those_o apt_a and_o full_a word_n of_o reverend_a master_n hooker_n of_o n._n e._n if_o any_o say_v he_o 42._o survey_n p._n 42._o after_o they_o be_v receive_v shall_v be_v find_v not_o to_o be_v add_v of_o god_n because_o they_o be_v not_o regenerate_v yet_o we_o be_v not_o to_o cast_v they_o out_o for_o non-regeneration_n even_o know_v 7._o but_o with_o your_o favour_n i_o must_v now_o need_v note_n that_o all_o that_o have_v be_v say_v have_v not_o punctual_o express_v our_o own_o case_n our_o common_a concernment_n in_o england_n who_o general_o come_v into_o the_o church_n in_o our_o infancy_n and_o be_v not_o admit_v thereinto_o upon_o our_o personal_a profession_n at_o year_n of_o discretion_n as_o heathen_n be_v to_o be_v and_o of_o which_o most_o of_o our_o controversy_n about_o the_o way_n of_o admission_n now_o be_v for_o my_o part_n i_o humble_o conceive_v there_o be_v but_o two_o main_a question_n about_o church-membership_a that_o need_n much_o trouble_v we_o 1._o whether_o the_o infant_n of_o church-member_n be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n and_o to_o be_v baptize_v 2._o what_o be_v that_o which_o 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spew_v out_o of_o his_o mouth_n his_o word_n be_v to_o be_v remove_v from_o they_o for_o how_o do_v those_o asian_a church_n cease_v to_o be_v so_o but_o by_o the_o lord_n performance_n of_o that_o other_o threaten_v in_o order_n unto_o this_o viz._n remove_v his_o candlestick_n out_o of_o their_o place_n revel_v 2._o 5._o cons_n 6._o yea_o a_o people_n have_v no_o other_o way_n to_o unchurch_n themselves_o but_o by_o their_o voluntary_a break_n of_o their_o communion_n in_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n by_o heresy_n poison_v they_o and_o thus_o make_v they_o die_v and_o cease_v to_o be_v god_n ordinance_n or_o schism_n direct_o reject_v they_o or_o by_o the_o perfection_n of_o both_o in_o a_o total_a apostasy_n but_o though_o wickedness_n do_v ever_o unchurch_n a_o people_n demeritoriè_fw-fr it_o never_o yet_o do_v unchurch_n a_o people_n formaliter_fw-la vel_fw-la effectiuè_fw-la as_o will_v appear_v more_o anon_o yea_o though_o heresy_n be_v indeed_o a_o renounce_v the_o faith_n 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there_o be_v no_o institute_v or_o form_v church_n and_o consequent_o to_o our_o congregational_a brethren_n principle_n who_o as_o master_n cotton_n in_o the_o name_n of_o his_o brethren_n phrase_v it_o say_v that_o the_o universal_a visible_a church_n be_v a_o chimaera_n where_o there_o be_v no_o form_v visible_a church_n wherein_o ames_n be_v so_o express_v fideles_fw-la non_fw-la constituant_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la particularem_fw-la nisi_fw-la speciali_fw-la 167._o med._n p._n 167._o vinculo_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la conjungantur_fw-la which_o only_o render_v they_o capable_a of_o this_o communion_n the_o jewish_a church_n be_v dissolve_v the_o elect_n that_o be_v save_v be_v not_o of_o themselves_o a_o form_v institute_v church_n but_o must_v therefore_o be_v add_v to_o the_o gentile-churche_n i._n e._n congregation_n therefore_o these_o personal_a qualification_n be_v not_o so_o fit_v to_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o communion_n in_o the_o ordinance_n 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thereunto_o such_o as_o profess_v the_o faith_n therein_o and_o such_o as_o be_v presume_v to_o believe_v what_o they_o thus_o profess_v or_o at_o least_o not_o to_o deny_v or_o renounce_v it_o prop._n 2._o these_o qualification_n be_v therefore_o necessary_a condition_n of_o church_n member_n or_o of_o such_o particular_a person_n as_o assemble_v themselves_o with_o the_o church_n in_o this_o worship_n of_o god_n or_o as_o ames_n most_o 163_o med._n p._n 163_o accurate_o forma_fw-la vocatorum_fw-la the_o form_n of_o the_o call_v not_o of_o the_o church_n prop._n 3._o therefore_o these_o qualification_n be_v rather_o to_o be_v reduce_v to_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n then_o to_o the_o form_n prop._n 4._o i_o grant_v therefore_o that_o they_o fit_o serve_v to_o express_v the_o qualification_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o definition_n thereof_o as_o i_o conceive_v amesius_n and_o other_o mean_v who_o definition_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v usual_o 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